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There was a thread here about that the voice from the earpiece is distorted. I experienced to have a similar problem. From the first day the sound was excellent but in 2 months it changed to distorted and then become very-very weak. At the same time the sound was good if a loudspeaker is on or if the hands-free is connected. Thus, I supposed that the contact becomes bad. To fix it, I disassembled the device. The *.pdf-file how to do that is included (33 megs). When the contacts were formed so they touch firmly the corresponding places on the printed board and the device was assembled, I heard nice voice from the earpiece.
So, in some cases the problem with the sound may be due to weak contacts. I suppose the contacts may become poor because the material for the outputs on the earpiece is not so elastic plus influence of vibration from the vibromotor plus influence of humidity.
Backup the system before disassembly because during this the backup battery may discharge completely!
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Thanks a lot I got this problem long time ago but I don't know how to disassemble it so I always try to shake it to fix ......
Great ! Very useful
Thanks
thanks for the guide..... very useful
Where can I find the 33meg pdf? I need to disassemble the device too...
regards
That is what I thought th first time I opened my MDA Compact! Believe me I am the very first one I did when the device first came out! After lots of research let me tell you this:
IT IS NOT THE CONTACTS! IT IS THE SPEAKER! The membrane is of low quality when you open the device and "fixing" the contacts it will only make it to work for a few phone calls up to a couple of days at most! The speaker is burnt by the high amount of volume the motherboard of JAM gives to the speaker! If you want to solve your problem then you ll have to find a Nokia Center and buy a speaker for a Nokia 6610! Nokia 6610 and HTC Magician have exactly the same speaker! The only thing you have to do is to change nokia's black cloth ribbon on the top of the speaker with HTC's black rubber get it into your magician and there you are! You have a perfect sound again! My only advise is to use the call volume just a click less than the maximum volume so you won't blow away your new speaker!
I dissasembled and reassembled my MDA compact more than 11 times trying fixing the contacts with no permanent result! After replacing the speaker with a Nokias's 6610 speaker everything seems to work like a dream for at least a month now! :wink:
Its much more easier to get Nokia's spare parts than HTC's! The speaker cost me 18euros!
any chances you could post us nice pictures of these manipulations ?
I would love to do that but please I don't think that my magician could survive one more disassembly! :twisted: In case of replacing a friend's speaker next week who has the same problem I will make sure I get those pics! Magician is extremely easy to be taken apart! The only hard parts in the removing process are the upper backplate which has to be removed very carefully in order to be fitted back in its place afterwards and the front faceplate where you will need something very thin like a thin knife or even better a razor to take it away from the black plastic on the sides! :wink:
where is the link to the pdf
Hey guys,
I cannot see the link to the pdf. I need to disassemble my Jam too.
Thanx, Martido
Sorry, I found it. Just woke up....
Oh, thank god, I'm not the only one, with this problem. But first i have two questions? Will i loose my warrenty when i open the device? Can O² discover that i opened it?
Did this contact fix solve the problem entirely, or not? Because katsj says the problem is the speaker!
Thank you in advance, such a great community!
Bauer
Edit:
I read the PDF File and i have to say .. this is simlply impossible! You can cause so much damage .... i dont know where to begin. One small mistake and you can't forget your PDA. I think this is highly to dangerous. Is there no easier way to solve the problem ... some ideas??
Or do the pictures lie and it isnt that complicated??
Bauer
My sound disappears during call...
Strange, during a call after a few minutes my sound disappears. I can hear the other caller, the other calleer can't hear me anymore...
But now I found a strange solution: when I pull up the volume button n the left a few times (it was already at maximum!) my sound is back!
Has anyone the same experience or a better solution?
I think when you pull up the volume there is this small tone and you hear this tone from the loudspeaker.
After you hear the tone, you cant here anything again, right?
I'm driving really crazy, i loved this XDA Mini since this prob occured and i want to find a solution as soon as possible ! I really dont know what to do
When i push against sd-card slot from inside, i hear everything .. again, so this is just a really small prob ..
I hope sb. find a solution quickly otherwise ... i dont know
Bauer
JackBauer said:
I think when you pull up the volume there is this small tone and you hear this tone from the loudspeaker.
After you hear the tone, you cant here anything again, right?
I'm driving really crazy, i loved this XDA Mini since this prob occured and i want to find a solution as soon as possible ! I really dont know what to do
When i push against sd-card slot from inside, i hear everything .. again, so this is just a really small prob ..
I hope sb. find a solution quickly otherwise ... i dont know
Bauer
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I think it's a contact problem, so maybe the problem isn't that small... I don't want to open my device.
I don't think it has anything to do with the ROM or with the software.
(I wish it would, then there would be a solution in the end)
I had this problem too and found a fix:
I assume that while you are making a call, there is no audio from the earpiece. While on the call, adjust the volume up or down with the volume slider button. if you hear faint beeps and faint audio right after the beeps, your earpiece is working but there is a software glitch caused by the headphone jack.
Reset your device. Make a call (i.e. to your voicemail) and make sure there is audio incoming. Connect the (wired) headset. Disconnect the headset and you shoud now hear audio from the earpiece. You may have to reconnect/disconnect the headset a few times.
thanks
thanks for the pdf. ill check it right away!
U ROCK
THX GUYS>>>U ROCK...........I was soo worried.....
thx again..
Thanx dudes for the nokiaspeaker tip!
Just received my on ebay ordered nokia speaker and within a few minutes I fixed mine magician thanx to the pdf & already gainted knowledge on this page!
I bought this phone a year ago for a very nice price because of the damaged speaker and now at last I repeared it just for €3,- (instead of sending it to Orange risking over €100; I`m Dutch ya know )
hi guys...pulling this one out from the past....my magician has all the symptoms above, but with no luck, the replacement speaker did not do the trick...any other ideas/details/downloads....anything to get the audio back???\
BTW, i can hear glitches of sound if i play with the volume tab. That is to say, if i push it up, i hear the tone "ding" and i can hear the voice on the other end for a split second! So i must be close, no????
Hi all.
My Imate Jam have the front speaker with some kind of problem... When using it as Mobile Phone I can speak but I cannot hear the other person because the volume is tooooooooo low. I think it's a hardware problem after some times it felt on the ground.
I understand that the front speak sends the phone sound and the back speaker sends the media (mp3, video, etc) sound... Is this correct?
Lets assume this is correct and my front speaker is broken. Can I send the phone sound (voice) to the back speaker and use it like a "hands-free" phone?
ThankS!
Just press the green phonebutton for 2 à 3 secs and voilà you use the back speaker.
But now for another question: where to find some replacement speaker?
It starts being irrtating that a the people in the room in wich i am calling can hear the whole conversation :x
Someones got a clue? I opened my phone already to clean the speakerconnections according a helpfile form this site, but nothing happened!
THANKS for the tip!! So simple!!! Very thanks.
I couldnt find a replacement... I live in Brazil and doesnt have support for Imate here.
Can you send me link to the post that explains how to open to try to clean mine??
Check this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=26370&highlight=speaker+nokia
In the lower part one guy claims the speaker is the same as on certain Nokia devices. You should easily be able to find replacement speakers for those Nokia devices (or salvage a defective one from ebay where the speaker is functional).
Hope it helps.
Or buy a cheap BT earpiece. Got one yesterday for just €25 from Vivanco. Till Now it works fine & no big phone in your hands as well
Regards, M
I bought a HS850 BT from Motorola and works fine... But I like having choices... I will try to open it and check the speaker.
Thanks for all the tips!!!
I already tried a nokia 6600 speaker but that one is bigger than the phonespeaker .I think he ment that it fits as the rearspeaker, but Im not sure on that (didn`t pay attention on that, though my rearspeaker is fine).
I think I will go for a stereo bleutooth headset, because Orange thinks that it maybe will cost me over 100€
Whoah! Back up there!
SOrry about the interruption to this thread, but did I read that you can have the phone-call sound seperate to the mp3 output?
I need to have the phonecalls on bluetooth and tomtom instructions from the speaker AT THE SAME TIME.
Does anyone know if this is possible? I tried it on a XDAIIs earlier this year, but failed miserably.
The same problem occurred with a phone I just bought on EBay.
And I just found the solution elsewhere on this Forum.
Remove your SD card and the problem is solved. At least for me it is solved.
I don't know if it will work in your case or not.
Good luck.
Jeff
Just done it today after reading this thread, my I-Mate Jam internal earpiece (only used to hear callers in phone conversations) has been out of action since it went a bit flakey six months ago, been using headset and handsfree ever since! First I didn't want to send it to the UK service depot for fear I'd be without it for months, and then I couldn't find my proof of purchase!
I opened it up about a month ago to find the earpiece speaker had died, but I couldn't find a replacement anywhere. After reading this message though I thought I'd check the speaker in my old Nokia 6600, and lo-and-behold, it was identical!
My Jam is now working again as good as new, and the donor Nokia will hopefully be back on it's feet when the sub-£5 replacement comes from the ebay shop!
Thanks all who've contributed to this post!
Leef3
I've been using Dopod 818 pro since the end of December 2005. A week ago, a problem suddenly came up. The speaker of this PPC does not work anymore.
I tried to play music using windows media player, or real player -> Does not work
I tried to use the speaker phone -> Does not work
I can't even hear anything when I make a call or receiving a call
It works when I plug in the headset. everything works perfectly.
It plays the ringtone when someone call me. (Very soft sound)
Is this a hardware problem? or is there anyway that I can do to fix it.
I bought the phone overseas (I'm located in Australia now). It takes a lot of effort to send it overseas for warranty.
Thank you
Do a soft-reset. If that doesn't help, do a hard-reset. If that doesn't work , do a ROM re-install. If it still doesn't help, then you have a faulty unit.
I've done soft reset
I haven't done hard reset
->haven't had any backup program.
Is there any free solution for backup software?
Thanks
i ve solution
well for this solution u must disassemble the phone. look at the handsfree jack and apply a jumper to the two front points of the connector. it will solve ur problem
aj0s said:
I've been using Dopod 818 pro since the end of December 2005. A week ago, a problem suddenly came up. The speaker of this PPC does not work anymore.
I tried to play music using windows media player, or real player -> Does not work
I tried to use the speaker phone -> Does not work
I can't even hear anything when I make a call or receiving a call
It works when I plug in the headset. everything works perfectly.
It plays the ringtone when someone call me. (Very soft sound)
Is this a hardware problem? or is there anyway that I can do to fix it.
I bought the phone overseas (I'm located in Australia now). It takes a lot of effort to send it overseas for warranty.
Thank you
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I've had this problem, what I did was play music using headphone and suddenly unplug the jack. The Speaker works again like charm.
Cheers!
dopod 818 pro speaker issues
I have run into the same issue with my 818 pro and my Himalaya...The fix is always uninstalling one or more applications that may be causing the problem. I assure you it's very unlikely that it is a hardware issue...Uninstall all applications and you should get the sound back..
I have the same problem with my 818 pro. I have already done the hard reset-no change, tried blowing air in and out through the headphone jack, silicone spray and playing with the plug. It appears to be a hardware issue with the sensor mechanism inside so it always thinks it has a headset connected--poor design.
Did anyone else figure out a solution for this (other than returning for repair?) This happened to me this weekend. Suddenly happened after I was using the headphone for an hour while I was rollerblading. Now I can't answer any calls without either the bluetooth or standard headphone. I can hear the ring go off, but just can't use it as a regular handset. I'm sure everyone agrees that this is a hardware issue with a poorly built headphone jack. But while I'm waiting for the retailer to restock the dopod 818 and send me a replacement, does anyone know of a hack that would allow the phone to activate the headphone AND the phone speaker simutaneously? The reasoning is I think the phone currently thinks there is a headset constantly being plugged in, so it deactivates the loud speaker as well as the phone speaker. But if there is a hack that lets WM5 to use the handset speaker and the headphone jack simutaneously, then at least I can answer phone calls without having to use the headset. Of course, this won't be a permanent solution, but it may bridge me through these tough times with the dopod.
I have to say, I still love this phone, but my patience is wearing a bit thin. First, it's the disappearing SD card (which I'm not even sure if it's solved yet), then I was having some problems with sending MMS messages, now this. :x
I had the speaker problem with my Jam. It is apparently a common problem with PPC phones, the mechanical switch in the headphone jack gets stuck. I was able to get mine to work again by plugging in the headphone jack a few times. If that doesn't solve the problem...well you know the drill
There is nothing to do but exchange it--I was never able to find a work around either. Sorry.
I had problem the speaker on my HTC Charmer. I send it for repair and they replaced the speaker, with in like a week+.
However, now there are some other problems. It seems that when I try to use the speaker (play songs, phone, games, etc), the battery drain like mad and the unit gets very hot. The unit drain so much energy that the battery will die off even if I had the unit on AC power. Going to send it back to repair AGAIN!
gunggu said:
I've had this problem, what I did was play music using headphone and suddenly unplug the jack. The Speaker works again like charm.
Cheers!
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I had the exact same problem and suddenly unpluging the jack works for me..
this "sudden unplugging" thing won't work with Prophet, the Prophet's buzzer(speaker) problem is very common, the same thing happened to me, cost me 12$ in iran to change that part
818pro speaker problem Hardware related
I had the same problem.
Speaker unit in phone burns out very quickly.
If you have warranty - your lucky.
In my case since I bought in Singapore and Use in Israel, I had to fork out 50USD to get a new speaker unit.
Tal
What you do is open the Comm Manager, tap the "phone" icon to set to flight mode. Then, turn on again.... that should do the trick
I don't know what planet most of you guys are on.
The Prophet has a common problem with the rear speaker - it's a hardware issue as X_Farhad has pointed out.
There's no need to hard reset, and what's the crap about flight mode?
Yes, some can have a problem with the headphone socket and the solution for that is in this thread.
Mostly it's the speaker itself. The solution is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=281331
I've found a bit of sponge works better than paper - to see what I'm on about - go to the thread I've posted here.
Speaker issues and phone hangs
I also have similar issues with my Xda Neo. The speakers stops responding when i get incoming call. I mean the phone dosent ring. Then if i try any music player or ringtons, there is no sound. I have to soft reset. Sometime when i get incoming call, it dosent ring and it also hangs the phone. Then i have to hard reset. I had to use that sponge over the speaker and then the speaker works. But sometime it still hangs. Looks like either HTC or Windows Mobile has major issues. I dont know how long this sponge thing will work. Are there any solutions..
sameer
Tal,
I have dopod 818 pro and having the same phenomenon like others, now I'm abroad and can not check the thing with the headset.
Can you tell me please where can I get service in Israel (I bought mine in Thai).
Many thanks
Dotan
sound problem
Dear all and administrator
can you give me solution about my dopod sound problem?
1. I just can used ring tones for receiving new messaging from the my dopod system ( I can't not used ring tones from my gallery/downloaded sound/ring tones application )
2. When new message coming and phone call coming, the sound is very small (can your's give me information how to setting that so the volume can be more loud).
Thank you very much for your's attention, I'm very apprenticed if the solution can being send to my private e-mail address at [email protected]
anyone have solutions on this issue? thanks
ok this is a bit funny
handsfree earphone works,,,but the ear phone in the mda compact doesnt work
the normal sound speaker works,,just not the phone speaker
ok it works stuttery when i press up on the slide switch and i can hear the caller kinda stuttering
wierd software rpoblem i think
its not hardware problem as the slider makes it work,,if i constantly press up o the slider but then i hear the caller and the beep beep it makes to tell you its at full volume
My qtek s110 is doing the same thing after i dropped it, could i have knocked the contacts?
Can anyone explain why the volume slider would make it work.
Cheers
I think its a hardware prob only! Cz if the volume slider is getting the sound volume increased, you guys still couldnt get the full volume right? If so, its probably the speaker or its contacts getting the problem!
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solution for no noise problems
Hey guys and girls, I also had problems with “no noise from the earpiece only.. and were puzzled with the problem for few days….until found the reason behind it.
As I am a lover with high-tech devices, I really wanted to fix this problem by myself (not prepared to pay few hundred dollars for repair from technicians).
I also want to contribute something on this site, as I have read great information’s from this site.
Here it goes.
I had this "no noise issue" problem with one of my device (have 2 sets of o2 mini) had no sound on the earpiece only (meaning speakerphone, hands free mic all works perfectly).
Now, to make everything short, I have done a great research with few personal technicians and even official technician from O2 Company and found the answers for this problem.
The fault actually lies with what is called the "Audio Daughter Board". It is a removable internal PCB that the speaker contacts to receive its audio signal from the phone. The board has a connector that is soldered to it which sits on another connector that is soldered to the main board. Both of these connectors can become removed from their respective solder connections usually as a result of a fall or physical impact. Usually all that is needed is a touch up of the solder points.
This Audio “daughter board” is connected with black connector at right hand side only, and the rest of the board with double sticky tape.
Most likely, the black connector has been disconnected to the “daughter board during drop of the device, as you need to solder the parts back (black connector has 14 legs, 7 on the left and 7 on the right) to get your earpiece sound back to normal.
I have done it, so can you (very small legs, so has to have delicate hands).
Now, mine works like a charm…. So happy…
After all, it was neither the programs, nor the legs of the earpiece, but the actual connection between the boards itself.
Hope my information helped.
Cheers
PS: I have updated my device to 2003 second edition with radio 1.13.00 but have no idea where to get pda programs. Can anyone let me know where to find such good programs?
It works!!!! Thanks
Your a genius
Hi im so happy it worked. I bought even a new speaker but this was noit the problem.
The internal speaker is now working but i found another problem with the ring tone liudness which i have to clarify now. So the serach will start again for me.
Again thanks.
Hi need help from all of u.
Hi my o2 mini have this problem, i can't hear anthing from the caller but they can hear me.may i know how to get the problem done, hope all of u can help me thank You.
bluehanul76
You really rock m8.
I was very doubfull that this would work. I have tried everything else people has suggested to no avail.
BUT I thought I have nothing to lose in trying you suggestion.
And it worked. It really worked.
Thank you very much.
Sorry for what am i going to say, maybe i did not get things clear...
How on earth can you solder the black connector both on the main motherboard and on the audio daughter board? Am just asking cause my magician had a broken earpiece and when i open it to replace it the phone died. Strange thing is that when i remove the storage card it comes alive again but no sound from the earpiece. So this solution is great although i had to make the question just to know how to handle things.
Thanks guys
Got it guys, the one connector on the main board was detached completeley and got stuck into the other. That is why i thought that it was one piece.
Man , i said to myself how come these people got it soldered , they must all have personal nano robots lol
Update:
Burned the small black connector tha sits on the main rboard
Any chance for someone to know what sort of PCB is this so i can purchase one?
Firts of anything sorry for my inglish but i´m portuguese and my inglish is a litle rusty.
I known there are a lot of people whith this problem and i had to. I tried a lot of things and i find a solution. The major problem of the this is that the black conector don´t conect very well whith audio bord, and i do a trick, so i thake a litle peace of cotton roll in powertape (like one that is on back of keybord) and a put it as way that when e close it make pressure in de audio border conector(in left of earpiece) agaist de front cover.
I hope I can help
enduromen
i have the same problem, and i will try to do as instructed. if it succeed everyone have a drink on me
Hello.
I have the same problem ina Qtek s100 but , like I dont know very well how to do look for the hardware piece that you send me the picture file because i cannot download it from XDA, it dont appear. If you send me to [email protected] I will be gratefull.
Thank you
Hy guys.
I bought this nice HTC Magician and it has a little problem. Speaker at the back of case works very well( I can play music and all), but the small speaker at the front panel( above the screen) for answering the calls doesn't work... You can't hear anything...
When I turn ON Speaker(back side) I can hear the caller, but and everyone around me....
And I can also normaly use it when headset is on...
In the mobile service they said that they have changed front speaker and that problem is somewhere on the motherboard...
Is there any salvation for this...
Balcanian said:
Hy guys.
I bought this nice HTC Magician and it has a little problem. Speaker at the back of case works very well( I can play music and all), but the small speaker at the front panel( above the screen) for answering the calls doesn't work... You can't hear anything...
When I turn ON Speaker(back side) I can hear the caller, but and everyone around me....
And I can also normaly use it when headset is on...
In the mobile service they said that they have changed front speaker and that problem is somewhere on the motherboard...
Is there any salvation for this...
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Assuming the service centre have changed the speaker for a good one, and they have cleaned the contacts on the motherboard, then they are most likely correct that it is a motherboard fault. Quite an unusual fault as normally earpiece speaker problems are either poor contact with the board or a faulty earpiece speaker.
If it is the motherboard, then a repair is not economic and could turn out to be impossible in some cases. Clearly the sound circuit is OK in as much as you get output using an earpiece. However, there could be an amplifier fault or a simple crack in the board connections. Without testing there is no way to know.
You could dismantle and check the connections (often the speaker has springy contacts that touch onto the motherboard). You can tweak them out a little and claen the motherboard contacts. BUT, if you trust the service centre then it would be a faint hope. If you don't trust the service centre (sometimes they give excuses because the job would take too much time for the amount they can charge - particularly on older devices), then you could dismantle (Always risky - unless you are familiar with this kind of thing - it could end up worse than when you start!!)
Mike
Mike, thank you very much...
I supposed that they probably didn't check everything as they should. Because hey're not officialy service or even to have experince with this devices. When servicer saw Magician he said " Oh this is complicated"... That's why I think that they even don't know how to fix the speaker or that they have put ther right one speaker. I didn't want to give them device to testing because I saw that they don't have experince as I said.
So I'm taking it, nesxt week, to service where I know that people are professionals...
I'll give feedback what i've done..