So, after diggin' for long time in registry on Pocket PC 2002 ROMs I've found nice feature - HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\
(may vary cause this is from 2003 ROM, for now I have but was like this and works on 2002), has value WakeUpPowerOff = 180 (by default).
This value (in seconds) determines, how long device will be on after:
1. power on by "power" button (and no other activity - no taps, no any hardware buttons pressing) - it userful for example to see "what's on
today", time, etc...
2. power on by incoming event like SMS or calendar one.
And after you touch screen\ other button - then as I found starts another, "original" timer, defined in Start->Settings->System->Power.
I've set above WakeUp parameter to WakeUpPowerOff = 12 (smallest that works really at mine device) and what I got? This:
When I need to look into today's or time or missed calls etc - I just press power look at screen and devices turns iself off byself. Not great effort but - heh - longer live for power button
But this is more important: When incomes SMS (I have gate from internet inbox to sms so have a lot of smses) - devices comes on only for 12 secs - for day it increases significantly battery life. (aha - 180sec and 12sec - differs!) (etc...). So we can set auto Off timer for 1 minute and work in normal mode (when we tap or read something, smaller is not so much siutable), but with this WakeUp timer also when we don't use device we get very small time to byself on\off-ing and longer battery life.
But after appearing 2003 in my wallaby and then after bying himalaya I have changed this parameter with no effect.
Now I find solution!
We need to change one more parameter in that registry subdirectory named:
DisableGwesPowerOff=1 by defalut. Simpy set it to 0.
And now on my XDA II (and on XDA I with 2003) this hacks works.
I think this will be userful for our XDA community. Thanks for paying attention for this text.
Hey, that is a very, very cool hack! I have always been annoyed when my XDA2 is in my pocket and I receive an SMS when I can't reply. During the 2 minutes before it switches itself off I find that the screen gets pressed a lot in my pocket with sometimes disastrous results.
This hack seems to have no side-effects at all. The XDA2 stays switched on in the cradle and changing the Power-off-on-battery setting doesn't reset this auto-off timer.
I dare to suggest even that it is perfect! Thank you very much nugged.
Thank you realy love this one :idea:
Works fine with 5sec off on XDAII.
goodluck
2 SiliconS: That's some kind of pleasure to share with info and to help.
2 eme: 5 sec? hmm... Ah! I think I have bigger lag cause I have setted up password protection and maybe it needs some time to initialize after on/before off... You haven't password protection on?
Anyway - it's works.
I've just had a thought: does this hack affect the alarms and appointment notifications? Does the machine turn itself off after 12 seconds and stop the alarm working? That might be a problem for some people if so. I can't test at the moment - my wife is asleep
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Just tested, quietly . It does affect the alarm. I set a repeating alarm. The machine turned on, sounded the alarm once and then switched off. When I turned it on again a few seconds later it sounded a repeat.
I think this hack is excellent if you don't use your XDA2 for alarms or notifications. Otherwise it might cause problems. :?
@nugged:
every PocketPC turns itself automatically on at midnight, to perform some magic regarding alarms etc. It is a known problem that sometimes it turns off too soon again, before having finished its work. There are even programs to make this time-out longer. Question: does you hack also affect this time-out, or is it something completely unrelated?
Cheers
Daniel
2 tadzio: Mine never do this. What "reorganization"? Mine works fine, don't miss any appointments and haven't midnight magic power-ons ...
2 SiliconS: Yes, so that's maybe who need to have long alarms install additional soft and\or set up time longer, smth like 15 seconds.
As for me - yes, I use mine device lot of time so it often in mine hands and at my eyes so I don't need long alarms.
Lets explore info above (at 1st post) here more deeply maybe someone find solution for short WakeUpPowerOff time and working long alarms if needed.
Put down the pipe!!
What are you guys on, hacking the on time? I must be really confused... what about just using the power settings to turn of backlight after 10 seconds and power off if not used for 1 minute?
That's all I ever do and mine lasts easily through a weekend with a few hours of talk time and checking my e-mail at least 20 times.
2 wayandrs: That's your decision If you satisfied with that standard system - good . Anyway - it's not an order - it's just advice
Look - when you setup to run your backlight off after 10 seconds - try to work normally then .
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2 tadzio: Mine never do this.
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Yes, it does. You just don't see it because it's only a partial power-up: the display does not get switched on.
The OS needs to clean up appointments, and set alarms for the new day. Most of the time it succeeds, but sometimes the device powers off automatically before the OS could finish, resulting in alarms not going off. This is what tools like "Wakeup Tweak" are for - they just extend the time-out until the device powers down again.
Also, zendrui (the PocketZenPhone author) had a lot of... umm... fun with this feature when users configured PocketZenPhone to automatically switch modes at midnight. Ask him, I think he knows a lot more about this than he ever wanted to know.
Cheers
Daniel
I miss the old 2003 future and wish SMS dose not turn IMATE-II on..
hope some body listen there and give a soltion. it was built in before some bodies complain about it.
2 eme: 5 sec? hmm... Ah! I think I have bigger lag cause I have setted up password protection and maybe it needs some time to initialize after on/before off... You haven't password protection on?
Yes, no password protection.
Btw I managed to connect over BT to Linux machine and have acces to local net and web. That 's nothing ok. But managed also to use device cca
100m+ away form my BT acces point. Just put USB dongle on extended
cable and if possible outside of your room. My is on the attic.
Think, PC makes som interference to BT rx for sure. If anybody interesting
on this can write som more..
goodluck
2 eme: after setting this hack do you have some troubles with 'midnight self turning-ONs of device with turned off display and some reogranization' as tadzio has?
2 tadzio: so, device turning itself on withot turning on display? Sounds very interesting. Anyway - we can say so our devices stays on every time even turned off by the key, they only slowing down processor and turning off display and some hardware, cause they need to refresh SDRAM memory, to track and remember appointments to wake up at needed time, etc.
And, anyway, if this 'midnight ONs' are have place, if they are not turning on display - ppc works in another mode and I think this registry value is not related to them. But this - for me - is very strange information.
Please, Daniel, give detailed info/links, if you know this question good or don't bewilder other peoples, who read this topic.
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2 eme: after setting this hack do you have some troubles with 'midnight self turning-ONs of device with turned off display and some reogranization' as tadzio has?
I do not have any appointments stored in my device.
Cant wait for Linux to run on it with graphical enviromet.
Than we can all forget this misterious M$ hacks.
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eme said:
nugged said:
2 eme: after setting this hack do you have some troubles with 'midnight self turning-ONs of device with turned off display and some reogranization' as tadzio has?
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Oh, I didn't mean to say that I have any problems. In fact, before I apply this hack I wanted to make sure that it will likely not cause any problems, that's why I asked if the author knows about any possible interaction between the midnight wakeup and his hack. I would suspect there is none, but I am not sure.
Cheers
Daniel
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Please, Daniel, give detailed info/links, if you know this question good or don't bewilder other peoples, who read this topic.
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Here is more information about this: http://www.mtekk.com.au/browse/page826.html
Cheers
Daniel
problem need help
Alrite i tried with a 12. It works well. As expected, but things happen when my phone rings, with a long rintone i have, it got cut off and then it went back to standby mode, making the call still ringing behind the background, after a while it was turn on again. It annoying when i cannot hear the first part of the ring. I end up not picking up importants calls... Anyway to help this desperado? ow i want to change back but its like the same...
Hi,
I wondered if there is a program I could use to switch off my device, or alternatively could switch off a program after a specified amount of time.
My vision: to use my Wizard (or Universal) to get me off to sleep, as I would a clock radio. When using my clock radio, I set the sleep timer to an hour or whatever and it switches itself off when my hour's dozing is done.
So far I have got some decent radio station URLs for both WMP and Real player, which mean I have the radio part through WiFi to my device by my bed all sorted, but I don't seem to be able to find anything that will switch off the device after a pre-specified length of time.
If any coder has a spare half hour I assume (???) this is a simple task to write, and I will buy you a pint or three in return.
Basic spec would be:
input sleep timer time
countdown to zero
switch off device
Mort Saver is sooo close to it, but can only take 2 digits in the time field and they are seconds not minutes, so 3600 seconds for my hour's listening isn't saved, and it counts down from 36
I also heard how PHM Pocket Plus grinds down WM5 to an unuseable point, so I spose that one's out of the picture as well.
I reckon a lot of people would either benefit from this type of program, or alternatively already have found something which I haven't.
Tell you what, if anyone can do it, I will donate to the forum 10Euro.
Cheers,
Joe
It's been a while since I used it, but I think PocketMusic will do what you want. It will play streamed music and has a sleep timer. That's if you trust the wizard to switch itself off once PM has gone to sleep.
It also has an alarm (if you trust the wizard to wake up when it's supposed to) too ;-)
Hope that helps...
Dox
Hi all,
I'm trying to write an app that sits on my today screen and tells me the next 3 train times for my trains to and from work.
My problem is that, i create a timer with SetTimer to the time when the next train will come, using the time difference between now and the next train, so I know to update the next 3 trains at that time.
Unfortunately, it seems that SetTimer timers suspend their countdown when the pda is in standby mode, which makes it useless.
Is there another way to create a notification at a particular time that is not ignored when in standby? Or is there a way to be notified when the device comes out of standby?
This is windows mobile 5 using c++.
Thanks all
Look at the CeSetUserNotification(Ex) function
orian,
if you get this working could you post it here? I'd be very, very interested in such an Today plugin (or standalone, I have little screen space with 240x240!). tia
I check my e-mail accounts automatically every two hours and, although I have activated in Advanced Config the option for disconnect in 5 minutes of inactivity, my battery drops in one day.
Is there any program to put time restrictions to e-mail download?. For exemple: from 8:00 to 23:00 every two hours and from 23:00 to 8:00 never.
Thank you.
that sounds like you got something else that's killing your battery. someone made a program that does exactly that, but i can't remember the name. its in the raphael, this diamond software, or maybe the main development forum if you're willing to so searching for it.
that said, look for other programs that you installed that wake the device to do something, even if the screen doesn't come on. phonealarm and other location-based services like comm manager pro will use power, and it seemed like even batterystatus used a bit of power when i installed it (that one seems questionable though)
damn, you cost me like 15 minutes at work because i can't search properly
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=438970
Thank you a lot. You have make me happy!
Can someone please tell me what this in settings does: Today timeout - 4 hours
Thanks
Not 100%- sure but I though it was the time that you phone will automatically flip back to the home screen (if you didn't play with the phone in the mean time.)
This was already in wm6.1 withou that manila...so I think this is not this what you explained...
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Not 100%- sure but I though it was the time that you phone will automatically flip back to the home screen (if you didn't play with the phone in the mean time.)
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Corrent. Say you are on opera, you let the phone go to sleep, turn back on 5 minutes later, still on opera. let go to sleep, turn on after the timeout (say 1 hour) and you will get the homescreen instead of opera.
Whether it actually works or not is a different matter. Shame it cannot be set to 5 minutes, it would make it easier to test.
I remember people discussing this on the old-aximsite now mobilitysite about my old ipaq and WM 6.0.
It shouldn't matter much what you set it to in a smartphone, because it's basically "always on", but on a simple pocketpc it meant that the device turned itself on at every given time (for example every 4hrs, or 4hrs after the last time you turned it on) to open the today screen and "update" its content, for example in case you have plugins like "todayagenda" that needed to modify the next appointments according to the current time/day. It was a useless battery drain on a plain pocketpc.
My settings say that my today's timeout is set to 4 hours, but I can tell for sure that device doesn't update the weather which is set to auto-update every 3 hours...it updates when I manually turn screen on...