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Question Regarding Ringtones

I was wondering if anyone could tell me how ringtones work on the phone devices. Specifically, I am wondering what could cause ringtones to stop functioning.
What's going on is that I've developed some software that is inadvertently blocking ringtones such that it takes a soft-reset to get them back. Even shutting down the program doesn't help. I've rewritten just about every line of code and I haven't been able to solve the issue.
I'm sure I could figure this out if the emulator supported ringtones (I don't have a phone device myself). but since it doesn't I'd really appreciate any help.
Thanks for your time.

read this like yesterday (responded to it too); not sure if it'll help you but it the chap seems to know how the ringers work. forgot to paste the threat address...but i do remember it's something like "mp3 as ringtone"...
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I have a XDA2 and want to use Pink Floyds Money as my ring tone. I have got this track on my SD card in a mp3 format but have not got a clue what to do. If anyone can help me I would be really gratefull. I will need step by step instructions. Email [email protected]
If you wanna be able to access and use music files (mp3 and wma format) located in your sd card as ringtones, you may also consider changing the registry setting. Here is the step by step advice
1. Install regedit in your device (in case you haven't had it yet)
2. Open the regedit and look for the following values
HEKY_CURRENT_USER/ControlPanel/SoundCategories/Ring
Then under Ring Folder -> tap Directory, you'll see that the default directory is set to be \Window\Ring. You can change that directory to your preference (e.g. \Storage Card\My Music\). Soft-reset the unit. At this stage, all music files in MP3 and WMA format can be accessed directly from the storage card
3. Go to Phone->Tools->Options->Ring tone, and select whatever song you prefer using a your ringer.
Note that evey time someone calls you, the device will locate the songs at the specified location (e.g. SD card) and hence the ability to play the ringer properly also depends on the speed at which the device and the SD card interact.
HTH,
Ken
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Ring Tones on Storage Card

I have changed the Directory string in HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\SoundCategories\Ring to "\storage card\My Documents\Rings\"
and the phone now rings with the wav file in this directory on my storage card. Well some times it does. Other times it rings with Windows Default.wav (the DefaultRing String setting in the Ring file). Can I rename this string value (or delete it).
ps I know I'm playing with fire messing with the registry but we all have to learn somehow!

BTW Storage card gets turned off on low battery.

Most of the time the problem is due to the ringtone size
The problem you mentioned "ringtone at time goes back to default.wav" is likely due to the ringtone size. So far I haven't came across any workaround for that. The only recommendation I would think is, get a fast SD card or reduce your ringtone size.
Alternate chioce would be, install the "Big ROM" thing that's available on this forum. Then, download MTUX RingtoneX Version 2.1a (have to be version 2.1a!!!!) and set your ringtone folder to "Storage" instead of "Storage Card". Have fun.
cheers,
cyberjaya

Forgot to add...
What's the difference of using MTUX RingtoneX and changing the registry to "\storage card\My Documents\Rings\"?
Am not too sure if this happen for all XDA, irrelevance of which model it is. For mine case (Magician), the registry hack above will work. But if you look properly into your folder, you'll find a duplicate copy of ringtone files exists in "\windows\rings". It might be because I'm using MTUX all these while.
Had tried MTUX 2.1a version, now it won't replicate another copy of the ringtone files onto "\windows\rings". In other word, you save your storage space of the main memory.

Nope - don't have a duplicate copy in "windows\Rings". I've deleted everything from there. I will try a smaller file as a trial. The .wav file I'm using on my storage card (1.0 gb SanDisk Ultra II) is 478 kb. Like I said, sometimes the phone rings with this, sometimes with the default file.

Re: Most of the time the problem is due to the ringtone size
cyberjaya said:
The problem you mentioned "ringtone at time goes back to default.wav" is likely due to the ringtone size. So far I haven't came across any workaround for that. The only recommendation I would think is, get a fast SD card or reduce your ringtone size.
Alternate chioce would be, install the "Big ROM" thing that's available on this forum. Then, download MTUX RingtoneX Version 2.1a (have to be version 2.1a!!!!) and set your ringtone folder to "Storage" instead of "Storage Card". Have fun.
cheers,
cyberjaya
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What's the Big ROM thing? Ta

Rick GM said:
I have changed the Directory string in HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\SoundCategories\Ring to "\storage card\My Documents\Rings\"
and the phone now rings with the wav file in this directory on my storage card. Well some times it does. Other times it rings with Windows Default.wav (the DefaultRing String setting in the Ring file). Can I rename this string value (or delete it).
ps I know I'm playing with fire messing with the registry but we all have to learn somehow!
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I have the same problem, even with a 66X SD card. :?
The ringtone played when the screen was already on, but if the call woke the PDA, the DefaultRing played instead.
I've just edited all my MP3 ring tones down to 40 secs, set them to mono @ 64kbps. This seems to have improved things so the MP3 plays instead of the default.

Any solutions for this problem ?
Any solutions for this problem ?

Beonfocus wrote
Any solutions for this problem ?
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Store the ring tone in memory - not the storage card

sd dont just get turned off when batt is low it gets turned off when the device is off
so when the device rings it dont have access to the sd card == no ring tone access

Solution !!!
IF you have big storage patch in your pocket, just transfer your ringtones
to STORAGE directory, i made it and it work very good.
i had the same problem and now it is work good !
thanks

More Sounds. Any ideas?

I want more sounds on my device much like my PC.
I want a different sound for:
MSN contact online
MSN Paging Me
Calander reminders
Oulook eMail notification
XpressMail eMail notification
SMS Messages notification
And probably others later
Anyone have any ideas as to registry hacks to add sounds for items that use the default sounds and how to change them?
Raptor

you should store any sound media files in MyDocument folder and go directly to Setting-Personal-Sounds&Notifications to set them as you need.

Don't know if you have been to Sounds & Notifications lately, there is a very minimal selection of items to apply sounds too.
Raptor

Don't know if you have been to Sounds & Notifications lately, there is a very minimal selection of items to apply sounds too.
Raptor

I use my SD card for all sounds.
First if you create a My Documents folder on the SD card and dump wav files in there, the Phone App will look in that directory on your SD card and you can choose ringtones without doing anything.
The only directory that I found that Sounds and Notifications picks up is Windows. You can dump WAV files in the Windows directory and it will pick them up under Sounds and Notifications.
For the sounds and notifications though it does not automatically pick up any directory except for Windows folder. (I think. I haven't found any other directories that it picks up. I tried putting WAVs everywhere and unlike for Ringtones the only directory that works is Windows)
Since I have a bunch of WAVs I just use my SD card and I would rather not clutter up my Windows directory or use up the space on my phone.
So what I have to is this.
First go to sounds and notifications and set your sounds and notifications. Just choose whatever sound is available. (Doesn't matter to what)
Then use a registry editor and go to
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Notifications
There are a bunch of subkeys and each pertain to an event. For each subkey look at the (Default) Value and that will tell you for which event that key is for. i.e. for new e-mail the value is "Messaging: New e-mail message"
Then just edit the "Wave" value and set it to your wav file. Do not use the extension though. If your wave file is example.wave then just put in example.
The path I use for my notifications is the following value:
\Storage Card\My Documents\example
Assuming that there is an example.wav in the above directory. Obviously just change the above path to wherever your wav file is. I have not tried using any other sounds other than wav files so I don't know if you can use mp3's or mid or other sound files.
This at least works for the default notifications. I don't know how to add new sound events for the examples you were giving.
NOTE
If you set these registry settings try not to go back to Sounds and Notifications or you will lose the settings. Then you have to set them again using the above steps. When you exit the Sounds and Notifications applet since it didn't recognize the paths you changed the wav files to, it will just put back the default like alarm1 or something so then you have to change them again.
Hope this helps

making custom ringers in sounds and notifications
wussup man.. maybe i can be of help.. i just got my vario a few days ago and ran into the same problem as you. i dont like the default sounds for the sounds and notifications too. what u need to do is if u wanna add sounds to any of those, u need to make sure that your sounds are in WAV format. then they will show up in the list.. hope this helps.. good luck kid

Am I speaking Greek? :-(
But Seriously, maybe I am not communication properly. I want to add sound events such as when a new contact somes online from MSN or any other IM product, I want a unique sound. This is not currently an option in sounds and notifications, I want to add my own if anyone has any ideas on how to do this.
Raptor

Found this on MSDN:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/d...lui5/html/wce50conhidingsystemsoundevents.asp
I guess you would have to add the event directly into the registry. BTW, this is for CE5.0 not WM5.0 but should be something similar of which events might be available.
I found several notifications' keys in my registry that had no Default values (event name) nor Wave (name of sound file). For example when the battery is low it will play lowbatt.wav if it's available in Windows dir. But this low battery event does not show in Start>Settings>Personal tab>Sounds & Notifications>Notifications tab. To add it go to:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Notifications\{A877D663-239C-47a7-9304-0D347F580408}\
Create a String value named "Default" and set the value to "Low battery warning". Then go to Start>Settings>Personal tab>Sounds & Notifications>Notifications tab, and there you'll be able to select "Low battery warning" and customize it.
Now if we could only find out what keys define the other extra events.

While we are at it, I found this. Apparently It is for changing the default tap click.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/d...tml/wce51conwaveformaudioregistrysettings.asp
And this:
Sounds (and soundevents) are all over the place.
So far as I know there are 4 places:
- 21 general sounds in HKLM\snd\ in a 21 line multiz string (possible to include paths) See previous post in thread.
- phone sound events in HKCU\Controlpanel\SoundCategories and Sounds
(don't have a phone so I cannot be for sure)
- System Notifications/warnings in HKCU\ControlPanel\Notifications
- Screen Taps & Hardware buttons in WAPEAPI.DLL, WAVE\100 to 103
where HW buttons (Loud/Soft) = 100 and 101
Screen taps (Loud/Soft) = 102 and 103
(see attached image)
The latter have to be transplanted with Resource Hacker. Dunno if you can overwrite the WAVEAPI.DLL in de \Windows folder. But it is worth a try.
EDIT: the waveapi.dll.0409.mui is used on my system which is overwritable ;O)
UPDATE: Works splendid. Very nice sound effects (using all above together) Laughing
ps: don't forget to keep a modified copy on your Memory card. After a hard reset the default waveapi.dll.0409.mui will return from ROM.
(or make a proper backup everytime you change something like I do)
Tip: use sndrec32.exe to edit you wav file and do wav conversion
Tip: if you overwrite a \window system file you can always delete it again and do a soft reset to get the original back.
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from this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=42022

Re: making custom ringers in sounds and notifications
inspired_708 said:
wussup man.. maybe i can be of help.. i just got my vario a few days ago and ran into the same problem as you. i dont like the default sounds for the sounds and notifications too. what u need to do is if u wanna add sounds to any of those, u need to make sure that your sounds are in WAV format. then they will show up in the list.. hope this helps.. good luck kid
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Hi All my sounds are wav, but they still don't wanna play. I put them in the windows folder, but they don't play. All are 22000Khz 16 bit stereo max 120kb files. So nothing big. But can't make them to play, even if there are selected.
What should I do?
Thanks

Switch Ringer Tone Directory?

Is it possible to switch, or have the option to select ring tones that within a directory on my SD card instead of in system memory?
Please advise, thanks!

Anyone on this? I remember it used to be possible on other HTC phones, I think with a registry entry, but I would like to avoid having the main memory filled with ringers!

I think you can just copy the ringtones to your sd card root and the ringtone selector will automatically pick up all the files...

I just used MP3 Clipper to play the file and saved it where is wants it. Then went to the ringtone selector and there is was.

Thanks guys, I figured out the solution. There are only two default areas that the HD2 will look for ring tones and system sounds (without a registry hack, which I do not have). The first location is in system memory, which is what I was trying to avoid by putting my new ring tones on the SD card...
All you need to do is put any new ring tones in the following directory:
\Storage Card\My Documents
They cannot be within a sub-directory of My Documents either, mind you, they must be right out in the main MY Documents directory, but then these sound files can be picked up for ring tones & system sounds anywhere in the HD2's settings. This saves your phone some internal memory, shoving it off the the almost limitless SD cards we can put in these bad boys!
I hope this helps some others here.

Definetly better then device storage so thx for the hint.

[Q] sms alert tone Focus only

So i have the phone unlocked and custom ring tones and i also know the name of one of my ringtones i want to use as a text sound but they say there is no explorer for Samsung focus. If i know the name of the ringtone, is there anything i can do to use it? say changing something in the registry? the name is hooha! as the ringtone. thanks for all comments.

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sounds\SMS\
Sound:string. The default on my phone is "\Windows\Alert-08.wma"
Changing this value should change the sound made on receiving SMS messages. If you have the ability to write multi-string values in the registry, you can also add entries which will show up in the GUI adding their filenames to
HKCU\ControlPanel\Sounds\
Notifications:Multi_String.

The system is a bit picky about the location of the sound file as well. Install directory of an app is a no go for example. Windir and My Ringtones are obviously whitelisted though.

So how would I know where my ringtone is located?
Sent from my SGH-i917 using Board Express

Is ther an explorer for the focus yet?
Sent from my SGH-i917 using Board Express

There's apparently an application capability manifest entry for installing ringtones, which I would guess gives access to the My Ringtones directory (although it could do something else like enable an API, or nothing at all). You could try using it.
You could also copy the file to the phone using Zune as just a music clip. Trying to find where it got put is non-trivial though; there's a small range of numbered folders it could end up in, and a range of numbered files under those folders. It might not work even if you got it right, too.

I've found the Alert sounds under HKCU\ControlPanel\Sounds\Notifications, but I can't add "Saywhat.wma" to Value Data, as in, I type it in and it won't let me save.
I'm guessing I need to:
1) Find where "saywhat.wma" is located
2) Somehow write it to Notifications
Any ideas? I added the file through Chevron's ringtone loader.

If you added it as a ringtone, the file is located at "\My Documents\My Ringtones\saywhat.wma" and you'll need that full value, with spaces but without the quotes (I believe, it might also work with them).
What's the problem when you try to save? Also, what registry editor are you using?

GoodDayToDie said:
If you added it as a ringtone, the file is located at "\My Documents\My Ringtones\saywhat.wma" and you'll need that full value, with spaces but without the quotes (I believe, it might also work with them).
What's the problem when you try to save? Also, what registry editor are you using?
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I'm using http://forum.touchxperience.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=593.
I've entered "\My Documents\My Ringtones\Saywhat.wma" and "My Documents My Ringtones Saywhat.wma" and it always jumps back to the home screen when I press Save.

Verkunder said:
I'm using http://forum.touchxperience.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=593.
I've entered "\My Documents\My Ringtones\Saywhat.wma" and "My Documents My Ringtones Saywhat.wma" and it always jumps back to the home screen when I press Save.
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Might just be a typo but you put a space between Ringtones and Saywhat.wma

jason.hamilton said:
Might just be a typo but you put a space between Ringtones and Saywhat.wma
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So you're saying it should be "My Documents My RingtonesSaywhat.wma"?

i have also triedd and cant get it to work

well i noticed using advanced configurator you can select ring tones for sms but why dont any of the custom ring tones i added show up in the list?

i think the best way to make it work is to rename ur custom sms tone to alert-01 then copy it to windows directory using touchexplorer(if its cabable to do so )...
unfortunatlly touch explorer is not working on my phone to confirm if this will work or not

i don't think there is a working explorer for the Samsung Focus

Are custom alert tones DOA for non HTC devices? I've really gotten bummed having a cool ringtone and yet having a standard alert tone.

I have tried a few times to get this to work on my focus with 2 different registry editors and it fails everytime i try. Maybe im not entering the correct path as it seams because it never show up. With the registry edit from the touchexperience site, after i make the edit and select ok for it to complete the edit the app exits out and goes back to the home screen. I also have tried with advance explorer and it did not succeed. I wonder if we have the correct path selected to write to and the correct location to select the sound we are wanting, if we use the samsung registry " that is being used to debrand the device " to write the edit, if we can figure this out and make it happen? When i try to add the tone for sms using samsung registry i get this error: please specify a correct integer
Does integer mean the same thing as value?

i got this to work on my focus using the wp7root tools to modify the registry.
i changed [HKEY_current_user\ControlPanel\Sounds\SMS]
"Sound" = \My Documents\My Ringtones\whatever.wma
it works for sure for focus.
does anyone know the original value for:
HKCU\ControlPanel\Sounds\Notification
i want to switch back to the default value

How do I copy the tones to the Ringtone folder in the first place ??

You have to have an unlocked device and use one of the ringtone programs on this site to transfer to the folder.