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ROMkitchen are out of date..... Who wants to change????

Hello XDA users....
I think you know it all, that the ROMkitchen is a fine application to get our device nearly perfect.
But the ROMkitchen is out of date. This means many applications aren´t not in the actual version. Therefore Auburnham and I thought to update the applications.
The problem is, that the amount of added applications to the kitchen is to big to make this happen by us two. Because of this problem I´m searching for some people, which wants to help.
Another problem is, that you need for this a device that haven´t got installed that piece of software. This means that when you want to help me with Phonext for example, you must have a device without any version of Phonext installed.
So, if you are going to help me make a snapshot of your device with the ssnap - Application.
Install the software.
Make again an Snapshot of your device with the ssnap - Application.
Send these two files to [email protected] with inforamtion about the program you have installed and the exact Version you have installed.
When I´ve got analyzed the two files i will reply to you with a wishlist of files that have been created on your device. After sending me the files, i can update the kitchen....
IF there are any quesions or anything else, feel free to contact me....
Regards
Stefan

Good Idea :

I'd be happy to contribute.
Tell me which application you want me to install and I'll do it provided that I find the procedure (that I've seen being posted elsewere in this forum).
NB : I'm using XDA I with a Frenchy 3.16 and be stuck with it :evil: ; so there is no chance for me to re-build a new a geniun 3.16 Rom again.

My XDA is all up and running.
I've overcome my Language FRA error message after purchasing a SD card reader and loading the ROM through the bootloader. 8)
Now, I'm about to install ttn 3 on my XDA. Do you want list it in your kitchen ?
What do you need exactly ?

I would be happpy to help. I am a regular user of your site and appreciate the effort that has been put into it.
I understand the effort needed to keep things working and up to date.
Pierre

I'm in!!
Just let me know what you need and when and I will maker every endevour to help.
Thanks for all you do
macudc

Check out
http://lumpistefan.dyndns.org/update.html
Select and download the programs you want to take and send an email to me, that i can remove the files.
Follow the instructions.
If there are any questions ----> Email me....
Thx for Helping.
Stefan

Tanguy said:
Now, I'm about to install ttn 3 on my XDA. Do you want list it in your kitchen ?
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Tomtom wouldn´t fit in the free space. Already didn´t work for TomTom 2.
Maybe i can include the Gps part....
Stefan

LumpiStefan,
OK on the priniple for GPS. How to best handeled tha case of a sotfware GPS 3.0 on (CD's) that has an upgrade GPS 3.03 to be dowloaded from the web site.
Does the snapshot comes at the end of the 2nd install ?
Tanguy

Howdy all,
I just noticed we had a thread started on this project. I've been working on updates over the weekend and noticed there have already been quite a few. So here are my contributions, including updates and additions:
Upgrades:
Converter CE 1.8c
StorageTools 1.9
PocketNav 2.73 (no snapshot necessary, executable only)
EzWAP 2.5
Polyphonic Ringtone Support (no snapshot necessary, additional files for \Windows directory only)
New Addtions:
Resco File Explorer 2003 * http://www.resco-net.com/explorer.asp
Resco Picture Viewer 4.11 * http://www.resco-net.com/picview.asp
Pocket Player 2.5 * http://www.conduits.com/ce/player/default.asp
Pocket Music 3.0 * http://www.pocketmind.com/pocketmusic.htm
Microsoft Money 2003 http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/downloads/money.mspx
Olive Tree BibleReader 2.31e051 http://www.olivetree.com/handheld/WinCE/WinCEBible.html
AOL Instant Messanger 2.0 http://www.aim.com/get_aim/win_ce/latest_wince.adp
WESTTEK ClearVue Suite * http://www.westtek.com/pocketpc/suite/
QuickTasks 2.8 * http://www.scarybearsoftware.com/ppc_qt_overview.html
InkSpot Newsgroup reader * http://www.dejavusoftware.com/inkce/index.html
Macromedia Flash player 6 http://www.macromedia.com/software/flashplayer/pocketpc/2002.html
Animated Today 2002 (not necessary, requires flash player) * http://www.gigabytesol.com/anitoday.htm
* Trial version, must be registered
I've sent these snapshots off to Stefan, along with the files that I thought might be necessary for these programs. This is going to be great for all of us, but a lot of work for Stefan. We all owe him a great deal, so take him out for a nice meal the next time you see him.
Shawn

LumpiStefan said:
Tomtom wouldn´t fit in the free space. Already didn´t work for TomTom 2.
Maybe i can include the Gps part....
Stefan
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I don't want to make this any more complicated than it is, but for some programs, it just doesn't make any sense to install to the XDA memory. Most of the media players and "Misc" programs just take up too much unnecessary device memory when they would work just as well on the SD Card (if that's available).
The problem is that those huge programs require just a few small files to be placed on the device itself. So after installing a few of these types of programs, you've used up a lot of device memory from these small files, even though you installed the program to your SD Card.
Is there a way to alter the kitchen a bit to allow cooking of the necessary device files only, and allow the user to later install the program to the SD Card (being careful not to overwrite the files in ROM with files in RAM)?
For instance, with the TomTom program, if you start with a clean ROM and SD card, take a snapshot, then install the program to your SD card, then take another snapshot, you could determine what files need to be on the device, and what files don't need to be on the device, and allow users to either cook the entire program or just the necessary files in the ROM. (Note: This is a good example of a run-on sentence). Would this be a difficult feature to add to the kitchen?
Shawn

auburnham said:
For instance, with the TomTom program, if you start with a clean ROM and SD card, take a snapshot, then install the program to your SD card, then take another snapshot, you could determine what files need to be on the device, and what files don't need to be on the device, and allow users to either cook the entire program or just the necessary files in the ROM. (Note: This is a good example of a run-on sentence). Would this be a difficult feature to add to the kitchen?
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Maybe the esiest Option is adding a new Select Point for the kitchen like "misc", "System Tools", "Phone" ....
This means having the programs double in the kitchen, but how cares.
I don't know exactly, but when you install a program to the SD-Card, could you select the part where to place it?
If yes, this could be a big problem. Many of the programs store the path in the registry.
If no, i could also provide a ZIP-file, where the rest of the programfiles are in, hust to unzip to the Storagecard.....
auburnham said:
We all owe him a great deal, so take him out for a nice meal the next time you see him.
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Sounds good. I'm hungry all the time.... ;-)
Stefan

LumpiStefan said:
I don't know exactly, but when you install a program to the SD-Card, could you select the part where to place it?
If yes, this could be a big problem. Many of the programs store the path in the registry.
If no, i could also provide a ZIP-file, where the rest of the programfiles are in, hust to unzip to the Storagecard.....
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I believe this really depends on (1) how well the program was written, and (2) if you can install the program with CabInst (i.e. has a cab installation).
For example, I try to keep my SD Card organized and tidy so if I use CabInst I install the program to an appropriate folder on the SD Card. If I have to install the program from the desktop, I install the program to the SD Card root, then try to move the program to an appropriate folder and update the shortcut. Most of the time this works without even changing any registry entries, but sometimes it doesn't. Two examples from the above list of applications are AOL Instant Messenger 2.0 and Pocketmind PocketMusic 3.0. To function correctly, they both need to be in their original installation folders on the SD Card.
But perhaps the best solution would be to have an associated .zip file to go on the SD Card, as you suggested.
Shawn

Now the kitchen should be up 2 date again.
Only missing is PocketConsole and the Part "Software that needs to register"
So happy cooking and again Thx a lot to all users that helped me.....
Stefan

A Windows-way for cooking a ROM would be great for two reasons: 1) Don't hassle your server with lots of traffic and 2) Practical. Advanced users could cook a ROM without having a PC with Unix.
For example I tried cooking the Spanish version of the ROM and not all the programs I chose were installed and the worst thing is that the boot logo was just garbage, it was showing program code on the screen as a logo
Regards,
Marton

Marton said:
For example I tried cooking the Spanish version of the ROM and not all the programs I chose were installed and the worst thing is that the boot logo was just garbage, it was showing program code on the screen as a logo
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Ok. Fixed the problem with the bootscreen.....
Tried also adding as much application, and all have been installed.
Can you tell me, what files / programs are missing?
No one else told me that there have been a problem wirth this ROM. I think it's because of the situation that most of the useres are using WM2003 ROMS....
You can also use the kitchen under "Windows" just have to set up a Cyguin environment on your system....
Also i didn't know how many Kitchen's are implemented by other users, but mine one is the only "official". You can't believe that everyone would be able to set it up.......
Stefan

Thanks Stefan!!!!!!
Now it seems to work but if EzWAP is selected, it throws a Log error when trying to cook...
Cheers,
Marton
P.S.: Do you know if a Spanish WM2003 exists?
Edit: This is the error:
Cannot fit files in given sections
Error splitting files

Just cooked a ROM... I selected the "Windows Mobile XDA" Boot Screen and now it is not garbage anymore but now it shows mirrored and upside down...
Any ideas?

Marton said:
Just cooked a ROM... I selected the "Windows Mobile XDA" Boot Screen and now it is not garbage anymore but now it shows mirrored and upside down...
Any ideas?
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Hello Marton.
I relaised that this is a problem with the Image.
This Image have been sent to me, and i ithink it's created wih the wrong parameters....
Stefan

Custom Setup After Hard Reset

Guys, Have been searching the site for a couple of weeks now and cant find a solution to my problem.
I work for a company that deals with alot of XDA2 units, so far I have managed to develop a custom extended rom that works fine, but have not been able to find a way to remove links from the start menu and the program menu. seen several threat on the site but no solution. The links have to be removed if a hard reset occurs. At present It has to be done by cloning an image onto the unit (1600 in total)
Any help would be appreciated.
popeye

I would love a program which based on a txt file would "delete","rename"... files and/or registry.
Something that could be executed from config.txt
there was a thread about a .bat interpreter but i don't think they got it working.

M4io said:
I would love a program which based on a txt file would "delete","rename"... files and/or registry.
Something that could be executed from config.txt
there was a thread about a .bat interpreter but i don't think they got it working.
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I'm using Restorator utility (search through the forum) to do the aforementioned things and much more. Works flawlessly with new Second Edition rom

thx, I completely forgot about that utility. I will defenitely give it a try
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=9333&highlight=restorator

CAB file version issues

Hi everybody!
(hi doctor nick)
I'm having a few little issues with CAB files on my pda2k.
maybe this should be in the blue angel thread, but it's to do with application development, so i put it here. I also tried the forum search, with no results.
i'm wanting to use all my customised cab files that i made for my XDA2, and use them on my new device, the PDA2K.
all of the cabs work, and all of my applications run.
however, upon installing the cab, a message comes up on my pda and says "the program you have installed may not display properly because it was designed for a previous version of windows mobile software"
i've checked the version nifo in all my .inf files.
i've compared them to newer cab files that don't give me that message.
the inf files look fine.
is this a registry setting perhaps, that i could change?
like i said, all the apps work, i just want to stop it from giving me that warning.
does anyone have any ideas?
thanks !

The warning is just about what it says: You are trying to run older (ie now specifically designed for SE) software.
Noithing to worry about when thing work as supposed.
You can get rid of the message by setting the OS verion inse the CAB files higher (but you need ie. WinCE Cab Manager by OCP Software for that) .

i know there isn't anything to worry about. the apps work.
it's just that for the purpose of creating an SOE, i don't want customers to have to click "ok" everytime they reset their device, all apps must install without prompt from beginning to end.
I have winCE cab manager, and have set the version and build number higher in the inf file, yet i can't seem to get rid of the message.
any other ideas ?

you have to set the lower version number to th version of WinCE youre using now.
Set some 'very high' value to the higher version number
There is another thread on this somewhere . . .thats where I got this info from

yeah, tried that too
i sset my version details like this:
[CEDevice]
ProcessorType=0
UnsupportedPlatforms="JUPITER","HPC"
VersionMin=3.0
VersionMax=10.00
BuildMin=0
BuildMax=100000
still no good.
anyways, i'll keep searching for the related thread. i new there would be such a discussion in here, just a matter of finding it.

I think it was versionMin=4.21
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=15761

M4io said:
I think it was versionMin=4.21
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=15761
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thanks M4io,
that's the link i was looking for

ok, there seems to be something wrong here.
either that, or i'm doing it wrong (highly unlikely :lol: )hahha.
anyway, i've tried all different versions, i've tried all different build's.nothing. still won't work.
so i downloaded the latest operator settings for my device.
that cab ran no problems, so i extracted the inf, then i copied all the version info from that one, and dumped it into the inf that i'm trying to package. ran the cab on the device, and i still get that error !!
how can that be?
there must be something else in my cab, that governs version conflicts.
anyone

Hi Twinair,
please try to set it as follows:
[CEDevice]
ProcessorType=0
UnsupportedPlatforms="JUPITER","HPC"
VersionMin=3.0
VersionMax=4.21
BuildMin=0
BuildMax=-536870912
buzz

I've tried with the above settings buzz, but it still doesn't work.
does the CEsetup.dll, or setup.dll have anything to do with version control perhaps ?

could be, that you should use your own setup.dll
I really don't know now... I've never made a cab which was not complaining about the older version... (
Looked for it also in internet, but found nothing...
But if you download the trial ver of OCP CabManager, you can unpack cabs for SE and take a look there... my trial period is expired now...
Maybe you can try to use setup.dll out of such cab...
buzz

damn, still not getting anywhere.
i've put in the correct version info, i've used a setup.dll file from a known working cab file, i have the latest full version of cab manager.
i'm fresh out of ideas
back to the drawing board.
if i figure it out, i'll let you know.

This is what MSDN says at
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/d...dnwm2k3/html/screen_orientation_awareness.asp
Installation Warning Messages
When a legacy application is installed on a Windows Mobile-based Pocket PC capable of screen rotation, the warning message will appear
This dialog is to advise the user that the application they are about to use may not be aware of square screens or screen rotation, and may not display properly in landscape mode. This dialog will only appear if the VersionMin value (which specifies the lowest OS revision number your app supports) file is less than 4.21.
Since setting VersionMin to 4.21 will prevent your application from installing on older Windows Mobile-based Pocket PCs, it is recommend that you disable this warning message by setting the BuildMax value (which is typically unused) equal to the following values:
BuildMax values
0xA0000000 Application supports square screens (240x240 pixels).
0xC0000000 Application supports screen rotation.
0xE0000000 Application supports square screens and screen rotation.
These parameters can be changed by editing the [CEDevice] section of the INF file which cabwiz uses to generate your CAB file.
so
[CEDevice]
VersionMin=4.21
VersionMax=4.99
BuildMax=0xE0000000
Should do the trick[/b]

@Shikra
...perfect man, let me test it... )))
THANX
buzz

GREAT!!! it works!!!
THANX
buzz

my first winmobile app - number formatter

Dunno if this should go here or not... anywho...
I was bored today and been wanting to learn C# and .NET CF for a while, so here the first version of my first app....
I got sick of how it stores new numbers by default (i guess depending on the rom you'll get +61.... or just 0433......) and I have some international numbers and the whole thing is a mess, so what this does is it tries to match.
its all based off a rules file which you will find in the .cab
.. so how it works is like this... there is a rule "+614xxxxxxxx:04xx xxx xxx"
so that will take any number that starts with +614 and is followed by 8 numbers an change it to store as 04 with the numbers spaced like they normally are.
The rules are tried in order, lines starting with a # are comments (I've included 7 rules which converts all aussie numbers to how they are normally represented)
So, when the program is started it will run through your contacts and try out every number (which might take a few seconds). Any that it finds will get shown in a nice tree where you can check the numbers you want stored permanently.
you can get the .cab here and it needs CF.NET 3.5
Spoiler
I seriously hope there wasn't a inbuilt way to do this....
I'm probably going to release the source once its cleaned up a bit, but untill then, leave a reply if you want it.
Also, is there a nice regex which can do this?
Oh, the rules are mostly for Australian "standards" so you will probably need to fiddle to get them working well for you... paste your local rules and I'll add them
Let me know what you think.

your announcement would do much better in the devers part located here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=260
maybe one of the mods want to move this topic, so the author gets more feedback?

the cab file won't install on my Elfin

more info? have you got CF.NET 3.5 installed?
I may have stuffed up the cab (although it works fine on my kaiser...) http://jdgordon.info:8080/~jonno/numberformatter.zip is the exe and the needed rules.txt file, just make sure they are both in the same folder and it should work

bump to get some feedback (threads move too quickly here )

jdgordon said:
more info? have you got CF.NET 3.5 installed?
I may have stuffed up the cab (although it works fine on my kaiser...) http://jdgordon.info:8080/~jonno/numberformatter.zip is the exe and the needed rules.txt file, just make sure they are both in the same folder and it should work
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the cab installation is unsuccessful. so i cannot try it out. i do have netcf3.5 installed
BTW i also wrote an application similar to this but is specifically for Philippine users.
http://oldsap.blogspot.com/2008/05/contact-number-fix.html

I guess I stuffed up the cab setup bit in VS... does the exe in the zip I linked work? the cab does nothgin except put the exe and rules.txt into the programs folder

[Q] How to programmatically detect how OEM named AutoRun.exe?

Hi gurus,
today I've a CE5 specific question and I hope someone can deliver the solution: How to programmatically detect how OEM named AutoRun.exe and where this is to be searched for?
For explanation: CE by default runs SD\2577\Autorun.exe, if OEM didn't cancel this, i.e. replaced this with an own solution, as for example
Medion: SD\GoCE.exe
Becker: SD\AutoRun.exe
Binatone: SD\shell.ini
HP iPAQ: SD\CElauncher.exe
Insignia CNV*: SD\CNAV\CNAVClient.exe
Insignia NS-NAV*: SD\WLNANavi480_272\WLNA_Navi.exe
Magellan Crossover: SD\micManager.exe
Navigon: SD\AutoRunCE.exe and/or SD\UpdateMe.exe
Nextar: SD\shell.ini
Rightway: SD\CoPilot.exe
Route 66: SD\Route 66\R66Navigate8.exe
ViaMichellin: SD\InstallSD\InstallSD.exe
Wayteq: SD\Mobilenavigator\Mobilenavigator.exe
In another thread I read, this should be to found in registry
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm]
"AutoRun"=
"AutorunCFG"=
"AutoRunType"=dword:0
but those entries doesn't exist at my device.
Thank you all in advance.

First thing that pops into mind is - what is Your purpose? Isn't the autorun.exe working or is there something else?
Other than that, if You already haven't tried that, You could try to create those keys and values in registry and see if it works.
And since this is a very specific issue, there is surely someone from here - http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=136798&whichpage=1 - who might have come to learn that information as it is quite crucial to them.
As I am not a programmer, I don't know any straight answer to Your question, but I hope I could help.

Thanks for your reply.
The forum you linked to, I came from. One more time: the constant I'm searching for must be located in device's ROM, hence my question goes to the programmers/hackers who know of ROM contents in detail.

@aiiro
I strongly believe jwoegerbauer's question goes exactly in the direction you linked too. For a proper installation of Miopocket on Storage Card, one must know how the name of the .exe is, which runs automatically after Reset when Storage Card is plugged in. Compareable to AutoRun.exe in folder 2577 on SD of Windows Mobile devices. But while AutoRun.exe in WM is a standard, for WinCE it is not. Most Manufactorers rename the Microsoft default AutoRun.exe to something else (see jw's examples) and they don't publish it. Means if you don't know, you can forget about SD installation of Miopocket.
Somewhere on the device this name must be stored and the question is how to find.