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Hi all
Just got the I-mate and a bluetooth headset. It works fine as far as phone calls are concerned. But I cannot playback audio (MP3's..etc) through it! Any clue?
Another thing is that the foldable keyboard for the XDA doesn't work with it! Is there a new driver?
The Pin Assignment from MDA and MDA II ist a little bit
different. Perhaps thats the reason....
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I believe that the bluetooth headset profile only supports voice calls. It's not able to listen to other audio.
although this may be possible with a software upgrade as the ipaq 5550 works perfectly for audio output through a bluetooth headset
yeah, i read that too..there are two patches available for the Ipaq: A free patch, the installation of which did not go through, and a commercial one that I purchased, and this disabled all audio output from the XDA-II!
I am sure there is a solution, just hope we woun't have to wait for long.
As for sound quality, I've read that it is a bit poor, but I still wouldn't mind!
Waiting for a genius
Any solution to this problem yet? I really want to play audio (in that case audio books from audible) via bluetooth.
check-mate said:
Hi all
Just got the I-mate and a bluetooth headset. It works fine as far as phone calls are concerned. But I cannot playback audio (MP3's..etc) through it! Any clue?
Another thing is that the foldable keyboard for the XDA doesn't work with it! Is there a new driver?
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I've got the jabra 200 BT earset. It has a small cradle for use with phones with no BT support. Now that has what seems to be the same speaker jack as the earphone with the XDA II. So if you have a jabra just pair the headset with the cradle and plug the cradle into your phone. Not perfect but would be interesting to see if it works.
Please note I've not tried this.
mmm.. sounds logic, i think it would work. I heard there will be a new ROM edition with audio playback over bluetooth. No idea as to when, though
hello,
Is it possible to listen to mp3 through the Bluetooth headset?
Not with the current bluetooth software as it stands, however this will change (hopefully) when the new rom is released with the updated bluetooth.
I managed to get MP3s to play through my HBH65 bluetooth headset from my mate's iPaq 2210, but the quality was awful. It was the same trying audio from my PC through the headset (with my sound-enabled bluetooth dongle).
In the long term, it may be possible with the XDA2, but you won't want to do it.
if audio over bluetooth's quality is aimed at the quality of a normal phone it will always be mono and sampled at 3khz or something like that music will never be that nice at such a low rate
of cause i have come across stereo bluetooth headsets which i suppose is strange
stereo bt
There was a stereo bt at CES, only POC but showed promise. I believe they muxing and demuxing at the headset. Obviously needs special drivers, and the hardware at the earpiece is in a dongle, with two ear pieces. Maybe if Apple and Archos take it up it will become available.
sublimatica said:
I managed to get MP3s to play through my HBH65 bluetooth headset from my mate's iPaq 2210, but the quality was awful. It was the same trying audio from my PC through the headset (with my sound-enabled bluetooth dongle).
In the long term, it may be possible with the XDA2, but you won't want to do it.
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Can you share with us how can you do that?
I don't need very good quality for MP3.
Thanks
sublimatica said:
I managed to get MP3s to play through my HBH65 bluetooth headset from my mate's iPaq 2210, but the quality was awful. It was the same trying audio from my PC through the headset (with my sound-enabled bluetooth dongle).
In the long term, it may be possible with the XDA2, but you won't want to do it.
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Can you share with us how can you do that?
I don't need very good quality for MP3.
Thanks
I want to know too.
Thanks~~
When I did it, it was on an Ipaq 2210, not the XDA2, so I'm sure the same technique won't apply since the 2210 uses the Widcomm Bluetooth stack. I had to install a new DLL over an old one on the machine and change a load of registry settings.
I found everything I needed on Google, although I can't recall where exactly.
Do you still want to know?
Yes, I do.
I am not very familiar to use keyword searching on Google.
Instead, i just type a sentence, and normal i cant find what i want..lol
Still looking...
Searched several strings on this, but still looks like no way to play audio (other than phone) to bluetooth headset. I have an XDA II with what appears to be the latest ROM (1.66.00)
As to why, I'm not looking for music MP3, but rather I listen to lots of audiobooks from audible.com. Doesn't seem to make any sense to have to change headsets, bluetooth one for phone and wired one for all other audio!
Whoever finds the solution, please post it here!
Well, several years have passed ...
Any one have an answer for this one ? ( How to play mp3 audio located on the XDA II device thrue a bluetooth headset ... )
I use a no brand Stereo BT headset on the Atom and found the quality is unacceptable poor. I just want to confirm if it's just me or it's a common problem for Atom.
I found the BT stereo quality very poor too. Tried
1. i-Tech S35
2. Gobalsat BT-830 (apart from stop/pause, AVRCP works fine with WM 10)
3. Nokia HS-12W (apart from stop/pause, AVRCP works fine with WM 10)
quality is way worser compared with the original headphone that came with Atom. I read somewhere this was due to the poor audio chipset used in Atom. Any way to fix that?
BTW, all the above 3 Bluetooth stereo headsets have excellent audio output when listening music from PC (using Widcomm 4.0.1.2800).
I believe it was due to the BT version used. I too tried
1. i-Tech R35 (V1.2)
2. Nokia HS-12W (V2.0)
When pairing both of them with Atom, the sound quality is not that good (always got hissing sound). The same applies when I use the i-Tech headset with my 818pro.
On the other hand, when I use the Nokia headset with 818pro (A2DP enabled), the quality becomes quite good (no significant difference from wired headsets). BTW, I think the Moto BT headset supports V2.0 too, and seems ppl around got some good experience with it and 818pro.
As I mainly use my Atom nowadays (my 818pro got the screen misalignment problem unfortunately), I already forgot about BT headsets.
From all you guys comments, I am not alone in having poor A2DP quality. It's a shame for giving out A2DP but unacceptable quality. :evil:
I-tech S35
Thanks so much for that information. I was really tempted to "upgrade" to an Atom from my Mini because the former had the built in bluetooth so it's a good thing to know I shouldn't upgrade because I was really after the A2DP functionality (since I thought the full release a2dp would be much better than the mini's "hacked" a2dp).
Maybe the stack used on the Atom is not that good. Have you tried upgrading the ROM?
[email protected]
what are u guys sayin ?
the quality of A2DP in my Atom (last ROM upgrade) is excellent !
and i do know how to appreciate the quality, cause i came from a V3x (quality was amazing too).
i am using the motorola HT-820.
the sound is much better than my crappy ipod video (to sell if someone interested) :arrow:
to fix ur problems, u should :
1- upgrade to the latest rom.
2- turn the crappy equalizer off (its a really useless feature)
3- when u go to bluetooth settings, hold ur bluetooth device and '' set as wireless stereo''
that may be the key for clearer sound.
also i didnt like the equalizer (am i alone ?) i found that the speakers are worse than ever.
what do u guys think? :arrow:
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goldsaint said:
what are u guys sayin ?
the quality of A2DP in my Atom (last ROM upgrade) is excellent !
and i do know how to appreciate the quality, cause i came from a V3x (quality was amazing too).
i am using the motorola HT-820.
the sound is much better than my crappy ipod video (to sell if someone interested) :arrow:
to fix ur problems, u should :
1- upgrade to the latest rom.
2- turn the crappy equalizer off (its a really useless feature)
3- when u go to bluetooth settings, hold ur bluetooth device and '' set as wireless stereo''
that may be the key for clearer sound.
also i didnt like the equalizer (am i alone ?) i found that the speakers are worse than ever.
what do u guys think? :arrow:
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How's it compared with the using the original headset came with your Atom? For me, bluetooth A2DP is way worse.
I used the same i-Tech clip S35 on XDA 2i, and the A2DP qualitiy is as good as the wired headset came with XDA 2i.
Thanks.
Wired vs Wireless
ok, with the regular wired stereo headset the sound is Ok, but not that good if i compare to my ipod video.
i highly prefer the a2dp system as it seems ur inside a nightclub while using it.
but if i have to choose between the wired headsets or the HT820, i would rather go with the BT headset.
the only thing, is that dangerous for life ? (like getting brain cancer etc... wish not..)
As I mentioned before, I have tested all the combinations for 818pro, Atom (both with latest rom) and two BT headsets i-Tech R35 and Nokia HS-12W, and only found that the BT 2.0 combination, ie, 818pro with HS-12W, produces good enough music quality. For all other combinations, there is always some pretty obvious hizzing sound around when playing a soung. That hizzing sound is not background sound, as it won't appear if I stop playing any song. It only appears when a certain part of a song is played.
It seems to me that the hizzing sound is caused by insufficient bandwidth or over-compression of the data transmission (or both?). This also matches with my test result.
If I am using the 818pro (it is pending for repair), I will surely bring the HS-12W around. Otherwise, I will just stick with my wired adapter + Sony headset.
possible sol guys.
what is that ?
'' MSFP AKU 2.0 ''
it looks like a guy in another forum did an upgrade with this and got a superior sound etc...?
??? :arrow:
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goldsaint said:
what is that ?
'' MSFP AKU 2.0 ''
it looks like a guy in another forum did an upgrade with this and got a superior sound etc...?
??? :arrow:
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AKU 2.0 comes with support for A2DP.
In the case for XDA Atom, A2DP was supported on the day O2 released Atom.
A2DP quality in Atom was poor regardless of the Rom version, I tried the following roms:
1. 20060123B1WWE
2. Xda-Atom-ENG-20060123_Feb2006_.exe
3. R060221N_MN1ARC_RS00045
4. DSUU_ARC_C060414WWE_R060327N_EX0016__test_only_not_for_sale
5. Xda-Atom-ENG-20060426B1WWE
As described by buruburu, hizzing sound appears when a certain part of a song is played. Turning On/Off the equalizer doesn't seem to have any effect.
When listening the same song using wired headset, the quality was good, so can't be the problem of the song I am listening.
When listening the same Song using my PC (BT 1.2 with Widcomm 4.0.1.2800 stack), the quality was good as well.
So, no problem with the song I am listening, no problem with the BT Stereo headset I am using, no problem with the BT version (1.2 in Atom, 1.2 in PC; don't have BT 2.0, so can't tell) I am using, and my BT headset works fine making/receiving phone calls.
Conclusion:
1. the BT stack in Atom has a problem;
2. the audio chipset in Atom was a cheap and lousy one;
3. my Atom has a problem (I am in UK, don't have another Atom to test)
If it's (1), hope someone can fix it!!![/i]
tcmp
forgot to tell u guys : i get good quality cause i dont use crappy windows media player to play my mp3s, i use TCMP for every file i have.
and it works a charm.
the only thing i dont get, is that sometimes during the song play, it stops for a second then go back to it.
wierd :shock:
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goldsaint said:
forgot to tell u guys : i get good quality cause i dont use crappy windows media player to play my mp3s, i use TCMP for every file i have.
and it works a charm.
the only thing i dont get, is that sometimes during the song play, it stops for a second then go back to it.
wierd :shock:
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Aha! Finally found this topic. I'm on O² Atom + Jabra BT620s. The headset sound quality is superb stable on pc (5mb limit Bluesoil). On Atom... WM10 sounds too low even volume maxed, the equalizer doesn't work on A2DP. The best is on TCPMP where I can blast the pre-amp to make it louder. The quality is "ok²", hisses are seldom but hiccups exists once or twice in wma/mp3 tracks and too bad headset playback function only work on WM10 not TCPMP. And to click my headset when answering calls, I've to set TCPMP not to play on background, after clicking, I've to increase the headset volume.
Does any of you guys who's using other than Atom experience hiccups on A2DP? And those with Atom other than goldsaint? I don't think it's Jabra's but Atom fault itself. I've only SmallMenuPlus and O²Plus running in background (all startup removed), no battery/space monitors on today and overclocked to constant stable 520Mhz with XCPUScalar on the latest firmware. Thank you...
Am using I-Tech Clip S with my ATOM and sound quality is EXcellent!!! No hissing sound at all.
I highly recommend taking a look at the following,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=54621
I had the same complaint, but these registry edits cleared up my quality problems almost entirely.
Tweaked the bitpool settings to 53 but did not recognize any improvement. The other 2 tweaks is useless for me-- whenever i used my I-Tech Clip S BT headset/wireless stereo, can't hear the other callers voice. Streaming audio to my Clip-S is OK but no noticeable difference.
Cheers
I've tried my two bluetooth stereo headset on HP-2210 , DOPOD 818Pro and O2 Atom,one thing is certain,the sound qulilaty in O2 Atom is worst and poor.I consider the problem is ROM Firmware.
Some of the tweaks cause more harm than good
I removed all traces of these tweaks by doing a hard-reset, and my bt stereo is just fine with the occassional break. 8)
IMHO we should not just apply every tweak just because someone posted :twisted: EG some one claims he installed Atom Exec ROM on regular Atom Now he has vamoosed when asked to share. Some one posted a 4-letter word due to the mess he had when he followed that line :twisted:
Not to go against the current trend, but I entered the following into the reg editor and it made a huge improved in the sound quality using the Samsung SBH-100 headphones.
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Bluetooth\A2DP\Settings]
"BitPool"=dword:00000053
"SampleRate"=dword:00044100
Still get the occasional skip but fingers crossed something will come up to fix this soon.
I have a 8125 with a Nokia BH-600 bt headset. It works great when talking on the phone but I really want to listen to music too...
Is it possible to play music through the Nokia BT headset?
I have Media Player, Sound Recorder, and the CORE movie player but none of them play sound through the Nokia BH-600 headset! I also have a Moto H700 if that makes a difference.
Thanks!
I am not an expert on this topic so someone can correct me if im wrong, but you cannot play music through your bluetooth headset unless the headset is A2DP compatible. You also need the A2DP hack that can be found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=263735&page=7
Anyway, to get an A2DP headset, look on eBay; you can normally find them for around 60-80 shipped, for a quality one. The hack is a cab file that just needs to be installed before pairing the headset.
Hope that helps.
Being dumb here... how does this hack work?
I posted the link in my above post. Basically, just download the hack, copy it over to you phone, and click on it using file explorer and it will install. I am pretty sure it just adds to registry tweaks and DLL certificates, but I am not 100% sure. All i know is that is works great! After the install and a soft reset, when you pair a A2DP headet, it will have the option for setting as wireless stereo. Take a look at the thread above for more information.
Ah, so then any audio that that gets produced on the phone gets streamed on to the BT headset?
Sounds promising. I was wondering if there was a way to get navigation commands to go through my car BT kit.
I also wanted to be able to do that, as I have a bluetooth speakerphone in my car. I do no think this is possible with just a regular bluetooth headset or speakerphone.
However, I do think if you have an A2DP headset the navigation sound will come through. I am not sure if your car kit is a speaker phone or a headset, but if you prefer a speakerphone in the car (as I do), I highly doubt it's possible, because I dont think anyway speakerphone is A2DP enabled. Nevertheless, people on this forum have done more amazing things so search around, you may find something.
And yes you are correct, after the pairing, any audio that gets produced by your phone will come via the headset (hence my thinking for navigation working with A2DP headsets)
Hmm, i have got a parrot ck3000. Not sure if it is A2DP compatible. Is this hack/cab file uninstallable? lol, im asking so many questions! I think i might just give it a try.
Heres a question (as these forums are a mess and i can never find anything), Is A2DP included in any of the latest roms? I am running the AKU2 rom that t-mobile last released, so i assume that some of the cooked roms are miles better.
your options
There are 2 ways to approach this issue:
1.) A2DP hack or updated ROM (for the best possible sound quality) needs an A2DP compatible headset/headphones or home BT transceiver.
2.) Mono BT hack for BT headset (you lose Voice Dial) has the lesser sound quality of the mono audio channel (the one you hear when on a phone call) See this tutorial for more details and options.
I highly recommend any and all BlueTooth articles by Menneisyys one of our Moderators.
See his articles on BlueTooth and more here.
Awsome! Thanks for the link to that article. I will give the BTAudioNav a try to see if this works how i want it to! Coolio! Thanks
Ah balls it. It looks like its just another constant streaming program. Shame, i would have loved to just get the commands to be said and then the radio wont be contantly cut out.
my 2cents
Just installed this .cab on my wizard (o2 xda mini s, G3 un-updated at all.)
Works a treat, I'd foolishly bought a a2dp headset without checking compatibility and now it is compatable.
Has anybody tried this BT headset on qtek 9100 with a2dp?? Whats the sound and volume compared with wired headset in package??
I will delete the tread after i get few answers.
thanks in advance
Anybody ?? Are these good heaphones???
They're the best headphones I've tried, but I don't really use A2DP very much. I can't compare them to the wired headset since I didn't get one with my eBay-purchased 9100.
"They're the best headphones I've tried"
Good to read that.
How dont u use a2dp?? What mp3 player do u use and what rom u have ??
I have the T-mobile MDA with their official 2.26 rom and use windows media player to play my mp3 files. The sound quality is good and the ability to use the audio controls while your phone is put away is very helpful for those bus rides or walking around campus. Using them as a headset for a phone call is a bit difficult with background noice, you have to speak up in order to be heard clearly. The sound tends to stutter a bit when using TCPMP to play movie files unless I have the MDA overclocked, but in all I consider it a good investment. I also invested in the Motorola bluetooth usb dongle and enjoy using the headphones while using my laptop as well. I'd have to say I was satisfied with my purchase.
Good. I get the headset in 1 week, will report about working, clear sound etc..
I read that the working lenght is about 70m in free land. Could u try that for me, please?? Or in whole house?!
I read also, that if u dont have a2dp is the mp3 sound bad, so how come, that u could listen without that "standard" - a2dp??
btw Thank u both for infos.
the headset is good. It works up to 10m, its comfortable and nice looking. good buy