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dissassemble the wizard

I want to dissassemble my wizard for painting. (yes i really do). Has anyone taken it apart yet, or will I be the first?

people have taken it apart.. where's that thread, hmmm...
Ah, yes:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=31755
http://www.howardforums.com/showpost.php?p=6298030&postcount=27
http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=377474
Not too much info, but there you go. If you do take yours apart, take lots of pictures - you'll be an instant hero

Most paints will wear off very quickly and maybe make it look a bit unsightly, do you have a particular paint in mind?
And yes - please take many pics and post back with details of the procedure.

Not necessarily...
If you use a lacquer based paint - it will "etch" itself into the plastic. IF you use enamel - yes, it will wear off quickly and most likely be "unsightly".
Make sure you steel wool it first to rough it up and sand between coats. When you are satisfied with the look - sand once again with very fine paper - like 600 grit or finer - then - spray with a couple of coats of clear. It will look great!
I use to run a guitar shop - building repairing and refinishing. This will take some time - but it will look great.
Shep

Sounds good.
Will be interested to see the results when fp has finished it.

Interested too

NO NO NO NO
I took my JAM apart to paint it, and it was never the same again. I HIGHLY recommend against this, you'll regret it.

Echilon, sorry to hear that mate...
i fink the standard silver face looks decent...(MDA)

Thing is... how did you take it apart? I mean without injuring the plastics.

Echilon said:
I took my JAM apart to paint it, and it was never the same again.
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In what way was it never the same again?

Hi Guys ,
I dissassemble my wizard tody ,I will post some pictures ,But I recommend not to do it ,as said (it will never the same again)
and if you insist to do it (THEN DO IT ON YOUR OWN RISK)
I just fixed the styles (It is not loose anymore)

ZeBoxx said:
Echilon said:
I took my JAM apart to paint it, and it was never the same again.
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In what way was it never the same again?
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It didn't fit back together properly and the battery cover used to hang half off. Aswell as that, the paint chipped eventually, but thankfully it got lost in the post and I got my money back from the post office

Echilon said:
but thankfully it got lost in the post and I got my money back from the post office
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LoL

Hmm interesting, I am jsut researching paints, does seem a laquer is the way to go. Guys who have taken it apart, your saying "its never the same again" Why, is there glue? Any experiance most welcome, I've built a mac tibook from 9 different donors and I am pretty good with my torx set, the only thing i hate is glue....

balo said:
I just fixed the styles (It is not loose anymore)
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did you do anything special or cram something to hold the plastic back in place?
I'm just getting ready to tear it apart just to fix this issue and any help would be greatly appreciated.
-Mc

I've repaired about 80 remote controls, and I highly suspect that most of the "never the same again" is related to wrangled plastic when trying to undo the 'click' system. If you have a ( Edit: http://www.noordhollandinbouw.nl/images/bankschroef.jpg ) and a very thin screw driver, these are pretty easy to open up without any wrangling/cracking. The other issue is paint getting inbetween seams - the device has to fit back together, so you need to keep the paint clear of those %)
Other than that, I really see no reason why it wouldn't be perfectly fitting back together with the only difference being the paintjob.
Maybe one of the two guys who mentioned this can give exact details?

Hi guys,
Actually when I said (it will never the same again) I did not mean it is impossible mission, but it need a high caution and steady hand (No glued parts) ,don’t try to open it hardly (it might break) with all that a scratch here or there will happened ,but still if any of you opened it safely and get it painted then everything will be fine.
About the stylus, yes I put 2 pieces of plastic between the cover and the stylus black encasement.
Thanks

Balo, can you explain how you unclipped the plastic cover. Is there a specific side to start on? How did you lever the part apart - finger nails or small screw driver? As much detail please as I want fix my stylus.

Was it hard to take of the faceplate? I need a new faceplate put on my 8125. Can you advise? Thanks!

so no pictures yet of the paintjob?

Wizard loosing stylus - total solution ;-)

Sorry, only in czech language yet, because I have no time to translate it yet. Maybe pictures will helps you understandt it little bit.
http://www.ce4you.cz/articles/detail.asp?a=263

I couldn't understand what's the point. Can you explain shortly what's the idea?

The Proble;
You have a loose fittign stylus that over time has gotten to the point of falling out on its own.
The goal:
Stop loosing styli.
Hope that helps; Lew

The reason the stylus falls out is that the plastic retainer cracks.
The pictures show how using a slice of an eraser jammed into the gap will help retention.
OK, that much I get, but where does the little metal spring part come from and what does it do (or is it a bit that's already there)?
John

jko said:
The reason the stylus falls out is that the plastic retainer cracks.
The pictures show how using a slice of an eraser jammed into the gap will help retention.
OK, that much I get, but where does the little metal spring part come from and what does it do (or is it a bit that's already there)?
John
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It lookes like the metal piece is part of the housing. He may be trying to point out how it goes back in place. Things like that have a tendancy to "spring" out of position as you open up a housing w/out giving you a chance to see where they go back to. That is if you can even find them once they hit the floor. Lots of little pieces that if lost can really ruin your day.
I'm a little worried about the VOID warranty sticker covering one of the internal screws. Also, looks like the guy dinged up his housing trying to pry it open.
It is the best fix I've seen so far for the problem. If you can get that VOID sticker pealed back and replaced w/out somebody being able to notice, you should be able to keep your warranty intact should you ever need it.
Ingenuis solution.

Although I dont have this problem (yet) I am going to add this little link to here. It is where you can get the PDF manual (disassembly and reassembly), I think it is way easier to follow then the web tutorial, you can just look back and forth to fix the styli thing.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=43836
Later; Lew

xda exec screen hinge

Hi,
I realy need help, my screen has become ever so annoyingly loose. How do i tighten it like it came?

naveedh said:
Hi,
I realy need help, my screen has become ever so annoyingly loose. How do i tighten it like it came?
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The short answer is - you can't
The long answer: the screws you can see hold the LCD casing to the hinge, the 'tightness' is controlled by the pivot itself. There is a convex washer in the pivot pushing one section against the other. At rest fully open or closed, this is bowed, and when the hinge is halfway opened it compresses.
Your washer has become slackened and is no longer pushing the two parts together as hard as it did. You can strip the unit and try bending the washer back but it's tightly affixed to the pivot post, or you could replace the hinge - I have spares - but do you really want to void your warranty unless you need to?
Richard

Damn that sucks I thought those jewellers size screws would control the hinge tightness but your right they are obviously for the screen fastening.
bugger if the hinge becomes loose really is no alternative but to send her off to the shop.

Does that mean that the more you rotate it into the 2 positions, it will get more loose?
Does it take a very skillful technician to open it up, tighten it and put it back, or anyone from the Universal's local distributor's repair shop can do the job?
Honestly, I do not trust those guy's skill/knowledge on Universal, as many question/problems which I talk/email to them, no good answer can be provide by them or their HQ in Taiwan.
Do you have a picture of the parts?
Anyway, the kind of support for this expensive toy from HTC is really bad, I think there is enough complains on this website and other website as well.

I have solved my hinge loose problem.
1. Turn the screen to half way position, that is neither computer (landscape) nor pda (portrait) mode.
2. Tighten the screw (on the body, not on the screen) that can be seen in the half way position.
It is not shaking anymore.

CWKJ said:
I have solved my hinge loose problem.
1. Turn the screen to half way position, that is neither computer (landscape) nor pda (portrait) mode.
2. Tighten the screw (on the body, not on the screen) that can be seen in the half way position.
It is not shaking anymore.
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I have already done this and am sorry to say that it will come loose again very quickly! It's a poorly designed hinge imho. If anyone has a more permanent fix then we will be glad to hear it.

techtalkonline said:
I have already done this and am sorry to say that it will come loose again very quickly! It's a poorly designed hinge imho. If anyone has a more permanent fix then we will be glad to hear it.
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How about wrapping it with adhesive tape. LOL (joke)

How about using some of that screw "goo", loctite I think it is called?

Which bit of the hinge mechanism are we saying is loose here? Is it the "lift" hinge that is loose so that when in computer (landscape) mode it has a tendancy to fall backwards as you use it or are we talkingabout the 'twist' rotational hinge to flip the screen around?
Cheers,
Steve

for me its the lift hinge thats slightly loose.

The "lift" hinge I am talking about.
The other hinge seems to be still ok now. Is clamshell open/close loose? Guess this will be difficult to fixed. Can share your experience?

BIG BALLS AND A STRONG DRINK DID THE TRICK!
well i got mine back to new stiffness. How I did it you may ask...well, it took alot of BALLS and a good strong drink. I used the manual from on this board and stripped the device down to bone...bent the metal palte concave to get a better grip on the left right rotations and added tape on the cylinder shafts for the up/down stiffness...I even added a ball of glue in the housing to keep the pointer in secure...took my time and got good results...It is possible but it's alot of work!

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youmeus said:
well i got mine back to new stiffness. How I did it you may ask...well, it took alot of BALLS and a good strong drink. I used the manual from on this board and stripped the device down to bone...bent the metal palte concave to get a better grip on the left right rotations and added tape on the cylinder shafts for the up/down stiffness...I even added a ball of glue in the housing to keep the pointer in secure...took my time and got good results...It is possible but it's alot of work!
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so you say you solved the up/down hinge?
can you share us the manual that you used? witch metal plate did you bent?
thank you

Screw fell out of my NIKI

Last night, after I flashed the newest Mary ROM, it turned off suddenly and would not turn back on. I heard something rattling around in there so I took off the battery cover and removed the battery. Didn't see anything, so I took out the stylus to see if it was making the noise. When I shook the phone (gently), a very very very tiny screw flew out of the phone.
The phone now will randomly turn itself off.
I have no idea where this screw goes. I think I have to take the phone apart to look.
Has this happened to anyone? Does anyone know how the screw could've come loose?

when i took my niki apart to line up the case better (HTC Build is [email protected]!) two screws that hold the slider on were loose!!! in fact weren't even tightened up, which is odd, as all the others had some kinda blue glue holding them in. :/
so yes, mine were loose

badaas said:
when i took my niki apart to line up the case better (HTC Build is [email protected]!) two screws that hold the slider on were loose!!! in fact weren't even tightened up, which is odd, as all the others had some kinda blue glue holding them in. :/
so yes, mine were loose
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oh wow. were those two loose screws very very very tiny? the one that fell out of mine were smaller than screws that you use to hold glasses together.

badaas said:
when i took my niki apart to line up the case better (HTC Build is [email protected]!) two screws that hold the slider on were loose!!! in fact weren't even tightened up, which is odd, as all the others had some kinda blue glue holding them in. :/
so yes, mine were loose
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is there an online guide on how to open and take niki apart? Because also my phone fell and the slider is a bit lose on the bottom side..
Thanks!

yes, i got one, i will have to sort it when i get home

eyecrispy said:
were those two loose screws very very very tiny?
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theyre about the size of the two you can see on the slider back when you slide it out

badaas said:
yes, i got one, i will have to sort it when i get home
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Ok, hope u can share it asap
let me know!

badaas said:
theyre about the size of the two you can see on the slider back when you slide it out
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the one that fell out of my niki is 1/2 or 1/3 the size of that one. sooo small!

did you work it out? i took apart my nike to rebuid it a bit better, the back was creaking after last time i took it apart..
the screw could have come from a bunch of places, i noticed a small screw holding the mainboard in and one holding the small pcb at the top with the speaker etc.. its probably one of them. i'd screw it back in asap though.
good luck.

ducamie said:
did you work it out? i took apart my nike to rebuid it a bit better, the back was creaking after last time i took it apart..
the screw could have come from a bunch of places, i noticed a small screw holding the mainboard in and one holding the small pcb at the top with the speaker etc.. its probably one of them. i'd screw it back in asap though.
good luck.
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No. Unfortunately, I haven't had time to go buy a kit that I can use with those itty bitty screws. I hope to do it soon. Will report back to let you know where that little bugger came from.

Hey there...no available guide yet..?

what size tools are you guys using?
I sent my husband to the store to get tools so I can put this cursed screw back in my phone but the kit he got was too big! What kind of tools are you guys using to take your phones apart?? Where might I get some??

im not sure where you can get them - most likely any hardware store, online, ebay. there are 2 types of screws in the nike.. you'll need a torx screwdriver (a t6 should do it) to get it open, and a real small philips (not sure about size.. just real small lol) for a couple of screws inside..

ducamie said:
im not sure where you can get them - most likely any hardware store, online, ebay. there are 2 types of screws in the nike.. you'll need a torx screwdriver (a t6 should do it) to get it open, and a real small philips (not sure about size.. just real small lol) for a couple of screws inside..
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I'm pretty sure the one we tried was a t6. I'll have to verify.

badaas said:
when i took my niki apart to line up the case better (HTC Build is [email protected]!) two screws that hold the slider on were loose!!! in fact weren't even tightened up, which is odd, as all the others had some kinda blue glue holding them in. :/
so yes, mine were loose
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I know this is slighty offtopic and i apologise. However, after you tightened your case up did it eliminate all the 'wobble' when the device was closed?

Taking apart the Vogue

My camera button works but the positioning is a bit off, so I need to dig in here and fix it. So I'm wondering if any of you have taking one apart, maybe a carrier tech, and could let me know if I should take any specific precautions. Thanks!

http://www.pdacenter.ru/razborka/razbor_htc_touch/

I've taken apart a few of them... it's pretty easy, but biggest advise is don't use a flathead or anything but your fingernail to pry the plastic clips apart... You WILL scratch it with anything else.

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http://www.pdacenter.ru/razborka/razbor_htc_touch/
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Thanks! That's a perfect guide!
Shadowmite said:
I've taken apart a few of them... it's pretty easy, but biggest advise is don't use a flathead or anything but your fingernail to pry the plastic clips apart... You WILL scratch it with anything else.
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Thanks for the tip, will keep in mind!

i took the 3 screws off but cant figure out whats next - where are the plastic clips??
cant tell in the pictures, and do not know that language....
thanks

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i took the 3 screws off but cant figure out whats next - where are the plastic clips??
cant tell in the pictures, and do not know that language....
thanks
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Go to my site and you will find other guides including a video. Go to the Service Manual section and scroll down to the "Touch".
www.mikechannon.net
The clips mentioned above are just small plastic grips spaced around the casing. Use your finger nail or a proper case opening tool (or a plastic knife) to gradually seperate the two parts of the casing.

mikechannon said:
Go to my site and you will find other guides including a video. Go to the Service Manual section and scroll down to the "Touch".
http://www.mikechannon.net
The clips mentioned above are just small plastic grips spaced around the casing. Use your finger nail or a proper case opening tool (or a plastic knife) to gradually seperate the two parts of the casing.
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thanks - found the 4th screw under some tape....