Full Featured Email App Supports PUSH from IMAP IDLE Servers - JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General

WebIS plans on releasing a new version (3.0) of their full featured email client, WebIS Mail, later this year. This new version will sync with IMAP servers supporting the IDLE command. This feature will enable true push email to a WM5 device from most IMAP mail servers. MS's DirectPush update, MSFP will only work with Exchange servers.
We have decided that we will move all new architecture changes to 3.0. There we've already designed a new IMAP engine to be able to handle new IMAP IDLE, new IMAP extensions for mobile use, HTTP push, and so on. We've already planned to move our file system from our current SolFS (its our own database engine that stores all your data) to a new database engine either being SQLLite or EDB/CEDB native. And that's for 3.0. That should drastically decrease the Mail codesize, mail memory use, and speed things up. We couldn't have done it before because only SolFS was usable for keeping data on memory cards. If we get 2.2 done in the next few weeks, then we should have 3.0 ready by late summer.
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WebIS will be releasing version 2.2 any day now which will fully support WM5. They will follow 2.2 with version 3 which will support IMAP IDLE push mail.
http://www.pocketinformant.com/Foru...?showtopic=8376

Thnx,
As the magician still is a WM2003 device I'll stick to vgsmail.
Regards, M
Btw the link is broken

will also work with WM2003!!!

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Who to use for push email

I have the latest rom and want to sign up for push email using outlook so my diary is always up to date too, anyone recommended a good provider
Cheers
Chris
Which country are you in?
Personally I am using intellisync and DON'T need the push email update.
And I am getting full replication of my diary, contacts, emails, notes etc.
My Blackberry has been handed back to my IT department.
EXCELLENT.
Robin
PS I am in the UK
How does Intellisync work? I've been to their website, but just get a load of rubbish - nothing on how it actually works.
Does it use GPRS, Wi-Fi?
Intellisync
Thats exactly what i have just though reading it, all i want is to have my outlook email, contacts and diary always up to date and email sent to my device as it arrives
fastmail
I use fastmail for my imap pushmail. It's not suitable for contacts/calendar sync.
M
I use t´his, I use that......Nice to know
But, how does it work, where do i get it and so on.....
I need a system to get my mail pushed or "blackberried" to my MDA Vario
I have a debian/confixx-Server, is there maybe any software that i can install to use this for email-push. If this is so, i woul give acces to XDA.developers-users
For Intellisync you need a PC with your Outlook email always running which you configure to push your email to their system, very easy setup.
Then you go to their website (via IE on the Wizard) and it downloads a large cab file, does the install, configures itself then downloads all your email (within defined paramaters like size and date etc, diary, contacts, tasks and notes.
There after any changes on your PDA or your Outlook box are automatically synced.
Uses WiFi or GPRS which ever transport method is available.
I made sure I was on WiFi when I did the install and original sync but since then depends on where I am I somestimes switch to WiFi or just leave it on GPRS.
Does this help?
Robin
@oltp
How do you achieve 'pushmail' using fastmail? I too have an imap fastmail account but I can not get it to 'push' my emails.
You're damn lucky, I almost backed-out of this thread. You need a third-party pushmail client. I use vgsmail for this http://www.vgsmail.com/ppc/ Mind you it isn't perfect, so I only use it for private mail not for business mail. My company doesn't allow that anyway. The support & updates from the developer are ok though.
Cheers, M
Another web sync site www.plaxo.com
regards, M
free opensource application for your server to get push email:
Sync4j
has aslo been reviewed at msmobiles.com
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/4892.html
CIAO!
VOODOOS!L
Robster said:
For Intellisync you need a PC with your Outlook email always running which you configure to push your email to their system, very easy setup.
Then you go to their website (via IE on the Wizard) and it downloads a large cab file, does the install, configures itself then downloads all your email (within defined paramaters like size and date etc, diary, contacts, tasks and notes.
There after any changes on your PDA or your Outlook box are automatically synced.
Uses WiFi or GPRS which ever transport method is available.
I made sure I was on WiFi when I did the install and original sync but since then depends on where I am I somestimes switch to WiFi or just leave it on GPRS.
Does this help?
Robin
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I have looked at the intellisync.com website. Which of their products are you using?
I'm trialling pocket x-press. No frills - not cheap, but it seems to do what I want.
https://www.pocketxpress.com/
pj123 said:
Robster said:
For Intellisync you need a PC with your Outlook email always running which you configure to push your email to their system, very easy setup.
Then you go to their website (via IE on the Wizard) and it downloads a large cab file, does the install, configures itself then downloads all your email (within defined paramaters like size and date etc, diary, contacts, tasks and notes.
There after any changes on your PDA or your Outlook box are automatically synced.
Uses WiFi or GPRS which ever transport method is available.
I made sure I was on WiFi when I did the install and original sync but since then depends on where I am I somestimes switch to WiFi or just leave it on GPRS.
Does this help?
Robin
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I have looked at the intellisync.com website. Which of their products are you using?
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Sorry.
It does say Intellisync in a number of places but here is the website of the company I am actually using.
http://www.esemail.net/
Sorry about that.
Robin
Thanks
Thanks Robin,
That looks interesting, but I can't find a monthly cost anywhere on their website. Don't like the idea of signing up for a free 14 day trial without knowing the costs.
Would you please tell us how much you pay per month?
Thanks
plaxo is free
Its not cheap.
I thik about £15 a month.
But for me, only having to carry one device AND always having a fully upto date diary and email is a REAL boon and worth it.
Robin
If anyone wants a free way to get push e-mail, you just need an exchange server. If your company doesn't have one, you can get one for FREE from mail2web.com.
http://services.mail2web.com/FreeServices/m2wLive/

Implement IMAP IDLE Native function @ Pocket Outlook

Hi
I'm currently running a mail server on a dedicated box (host @ datacenter 30€/month) under linux with courrier-imap. There is a way to implement IMAP IDLE function, that is almost the same than pushing emails.
I actualy tested it without FAM (File Alteration Monitor). Fam allow you to have a realtime email like blackberry. I don't need it, the basic IMAP_ENHANCEDIDLE do a check every minutes and update if there is a mail.
I tested this feature through telnet and it worked lovely.
Now, in order to be able to use this feature over your windows mobile, you have the choice between to softwares.
The first is vgsmail http://www.vgsmail.com/ppc/ (free trial)
This one will just enable the IMAP IDLE feature on your pocket outlook (seems to be the more elegant way to implement it)
The second is WIS Flexmail 2007 (search at google ) (free trial)
This one is a new client (i don't like to change my use personnaly)
The major problem of the both solutions is that you have to pay for it.
Does anyone can do a patch for pocket outlook to implement imap idle fonction on it ?
Regards.
Reference thread: Here
Check out Seven.
http://community.seven.com/forum/main.php
I'm currently using it too work with my google IMAP account and I get push email. It works amaizing.
I don't know if its what your looking for but give it a shot and see.
I currently use it on my WM6 Hermes device and even though it not supported its working perfectly for me.
Knockz said:
Check out Seven.
http://community.seven.com/forum/main.php
I'm currently using it too work with my google IMAP account and I get push email. It works amaizing.
I don't know if its what your looking for but give it a shot and see.
I currently use it on my WM6 Hermes device and even though it not supported its working perfectly for me.
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Hi, thanks for your tips, btw i like to know something, is it a standalone program or a plugin for pocket outlook ?
Regards.
Its an addon for pocket outlook that manages the account and the push functionality. It also does other types of accounts. It gave me push email for my work account and pop accounts.
You still read/reply and manage your emails using pocket outlook.
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Fantastic, gonna test it tomorrow !
Thanks buddy !
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I tested this solution, sounds like a third party server is getting email from your server :/. It won't be a problem if this project didn't looks like another commercial push (visto like).
Actualy Seven is acting like a visto, sevens server try to fetch mail ~2mn and push it on they proprietary client, who is pushing the message @ pocket outlook.
It means that my mail is going through seven mail server and Seven has all access granted to my mailbox.
I'm just looking for a soft (without thrid party server checking) enabling the IMAP IDLE fonction.
Test of vgsmail & flexmail
I tried to test them with imap idle
vgsmail has been renamed to EmansioPushMail, great, but it just crash my Hermes (Schap's 3.54 ROM). Tried an old cab called Vsgmail-Pushmail.cab (looks like an old beta). Result is the same (just with a different program name )
flexmail is working with imap idle correctly, but it's eating up all my memory (92% busy). So my Hermes just finish to crash cause it don't get enough memory (GPRS+Flexmail+msn+Audio Player).
The both solution are non free ...
Is there a chance to get imap idle implemented on pocket outlook someday ?
A desesperate Linux's mail server admin.
maybe it's a stupid question, but just to know:
within my Pocket Outlook GMail IMAP options, I have an option to check mail every 5 minutes.
ok I know, it's not really push, but what's the difference, I doesn't really mather if you get your mails within some seconds or within 5 minutes, or does it?
There is really cool japanese freeware mail client named Qmail3 - It has IMAP4 - I do not know about IMAP IDLE but it is worth a try. Some people call that program "The Bat" for PPC because of tons of features it offers.
WM6 also supports IMAP4 and HTML mails...i don't really see much benefit for another email application...the full device integration will never be as good as with Pocket Outlook, I think.
VOODOOS!L said:
maybe it's a stupid question, but just to know:
within my Pocket Outlook GMail IMAP options, I have an option to check mail every 5 minutes.
ok I know, it's not really push, but what's the difference, I doesn't really mather if you get your mails within some seconds or within 5 minutes, or does it?
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Hi,
Actualy, the option that you are using is wasting a lot of bandwith.
Send/Receive procedure
1/ contact imap/pop server
2/ auth on it
3/ check message
This have an effective cost of bandwith (wich is limited to 10mo/month in my case)
It means that if you use this system you gonna waiste almost all bandwith just to check if there is some mails.
Imap Idle procedure
1/ contact/auth once
2/ enter idle mode
3/ server send a notification to the client entered in idle mode
This solution permit to don't waste bandwith and provide a real push solution (you have to install File Alteration Monitor on your mail server in order to get it) withouth FAM it works also but you can get a delay (less than 1mn).
This solution is the best cause you are not dependant of a third party who's all access on your mailbox (specialy for work purposes)
We don't want to set up any microsoft server or exchange servers (linux ftw).
KarhU said:
There is really cool japanese freeware mail client named Qmail3 - It has IMAP4 - I do not know about IMAP IDLE but it is worth a try. Some people call that program "The Bat" for PPC because of tons of features it offers.
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I gave a try on it, it doesn't implement imap idle feature, thanks anyway
VOODOOS!L said:
maybe it's a stupid question, but just to know:
within my Pocket Outlook GMail IMAP options, I have an option to check mail every 5 minutes.
ok I know, it's not really push, but what's the difference, I doesn't really mather if you get your mails within some seconds or within 5 minutes, or does it?
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Depends on how often you get incoming mail.
If you only get one message per hour, but want to know within a few minutes of its arrival and set a 5-minute check interval, you're performing a LOT of extra full IMAP resyncs that are unnecessary, which will eat your battery.
There are also a number of other IMAP extensions usually implemented along with IDLE (known as the Lemonade Profile) that significantly reduce data transfers (and battery abuse), the basic IMAP support in Pocket Outlook does not implement these.
Entropy512 said:
Depends on how often you get incoming mail.
If you only get one message per hour, but want to know within a few minutes of its arrival and set a 5-minute check interval, you're performing a LOT of extra full IMAP resyncs that are unnecessary, which will eat your battery.
There are also a number of other IMAP extensions usually implemented along with IDLE (known as the Lemonade Profile) that significantly reduce data transfers (and battery abuse), the basic IMAP support in Pocket Outlook does not implement these.
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ok, thx for the clarification!
if the IDLE and lemonade would work in Pocket Outlook, would we be able to get push email in combination with the new GMail IMAP support? would be nice and cheap I guess
If you have unlimited text messages, use PushEffect - uses a text message to signal outlook to check email. Works great for me - http://www.qorefunctions.com/
Tranman79 said:
If you have unlimited text messages, use PushEffect - uses a text message to signal outlook to check email. Works great for me - http://www.qorefunctions.com/
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Unfortunately, i don't have any free sms service :/
VOODOOS!L said:
WM6 also supports IMAP4 and HTML mails...i don't really see much benefit for another email application...the full device integration will never be as good as with Pocket Outlook, I think.
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It doesn't support IMAP IDLE - see my related articles
KarhU said:
There is really cool japanese freeware mail client named Qmail3 - It has IMAP4 - I do not know about IMAP IDLE but it is worth a try. Some people call that program "The Bat" for PPC because of tons of features it offers.
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no IDLE support either - again, make sure you ALL follow my articles - see http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=IMAP Bible
Menneisyys said:
no IDLE support either - again, make sure you ALL follow my articles - see http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=IMAP Bible
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Hi, very interesting article !
Thanks for the link.
I'm actualy in contact with the developper off vgsmail, cause it's really unstable with windows mobile 6 (random freeze works partialy)
I'll back to you when i'll get more information.
Kayser said:
I'm actualy in contact with the developper off vgsmail, cause it's really unstable with windows mobile 6 (random freeze works partialy)
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Anything new on this?
dew.man said:
Anything new on this?
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vgsmail is now Emansio:
http://www.emansio.com
and in my testing it still (version 20070916143800) seems unreliable and buggy on my Kaiser (WM6). Great idea, I wish the darn task manager icon could be removed, and I wish it worked properly. Price is high in USD with the current exchange rates, but I might be able to stomach the basic license if it worked....
Richard

IMAP IDLE

Does the Blackstone support imap idle or another kind of pushmail solution?
Yeah, there is support for Direct Push through an exchange server, or for Imap4/Idle through 3rd party solutions like Fleximail or this promising free one http://www.codeplex.com/ImapPusherService
While Imap has the advantage of WLAN compatiblity, I still have to check the effect on battery life
perfect! I'm thinking of changing my email-domain to Domainfactory, which offers free Push-mail http://www.df.eu/germany/produkte/mymail.htmla
I wanted to make sure that both (Domainfactory and Touch HD) will work together.
Would be nice to hear your report of battery life.
can you use push-mail with gmail like on the g1 ?
@bug-i
I am using the free http://live.mail2web.com/ Direct Push for years. Only disadvantage over Imap is that one cannot send email with your choosen email address, you have to use theirs. But lately I am using Imap only, because it works better with different mobile operating systems
@L0ser
Yes, with the free PocketOutlook plugin mentioned in my post.
L0ser said:
can you use push-mail with gmail like on the g1 ?
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Would really be interesting if there is a solution to use push-mail with gmail...
Well, you could forward your gmail to a free push provider, and sync gmail that way. But I think Imap is a easier solution, and not bound to Microsoft or RIM.
anyone got web2mail to push email to their HTC?
Hi chaps,
I wondered if any of you have got this to work? I've followed all the instructions setting up a free push email account with web2mail and setup activesync to receive messages as they arrive, but I still dont get the email until I manually sync.
The only thing I think maybe breaking it, is the fact that I have setup nodata on my htc as my carrier charges loads for using data (I have wifi switched on and connected instead)
Any ideas chaps?
Imap Idle with gmail support, scheduling, etc... Look for email scheduler, it is posted here at xda, and avail here. I am curious how it works on the Blackstone.

[Q] Is there an Email app with multiple exchange (EAS) support and HTML rendering?

Hi everyone..
The Q title says it all, are there any E-Mail apps for android out there that support multiple exchange activesync (EAS) accounts and can show HTML in its native form?
From my knowledge, the stock HTC mail app doesn't like EAS too much, Improved Email doesn't support HTML, K9-Mail doesn't support EAS, Nitrodesk Touchdown doesn't support multiple accounts!
Can anybody point me in the right direction?
Anyone??? Moxier and RoadSync also only support one exchange account at a time.. Maildroid doesn't work with Exchange. I used Seven a while ago but it had partial wake problems (killed battery), can't download from their server right now but not sure it supports HTML viewing.. running out of apps!
That's exactly what I want in an email client too.
I think some people get html with the stock froyo email client with Exchange 2007. I'm using the stock email on my DROID (2.2) for my Hotmail and my work email (Exchange 2003?) and I don't get html or images. Some messages look like garbage without html... too bad.
I used K-9 for a while, and despite some bugs, it is a great email client. I hope K-9 supports EAS someday.
So, just all I can say and what I use is the stock FroYo, that support multiple EAS, I do use 2 different (Work/Home) as fine as it can.
Only missing thing, no tasks..... Gingerbread ??
kr
dD
derDominic said:
So, just all I can say and what I use is the stock FroYo, that support multiple EAS, I do use 2 different (Work/Home) as fine as it can.
Only missing thing, no tasks..... Gingerbread ??
kr
dD
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Does it also support HTML formatting and images for you?
I use Improved Email at the moment.. which is apparently a modded version of the stock client, it handles multiple accounts perfectly, is good to the battery, allows unlimited mail sync (not just upto 30days) etc but it doesn't display Hotmail via EAS in HTML.. that's the only extra functionality I need, tried the stock Froyo client before and it obviously doesn't support HTML, wish they would add this in!
Hi there, any update on this ?
I'm stuck too with plain html tags all over my synced mails with froyo stock client :'(
The stock email app on the Droid X does this i believe. i can add multiple exchange accounts (i only have one so i can't test it but it doesn't stop me from adding another) it also renders html...
aBSuRDiST said:
Does it also support HTML formatting and images for you?
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Yes, does also HTML-Mail.
derDominic said:
Yes, does also HTML-Mail.
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Huh. My guess is that your Exchange servers are 2007 or 2010. I have stock froyo on my original Droid, and I get no HTML for my Hotmail (activesync) and my work email (Exchange 2003?).
Most of the time it doesn't matter, but some of the email I get looks awful without HTML and requires a lot of scrolling. On hotmail, sometimes the HTML tags even appear in the message.

[BUG] Android 3.1: Replying to email through Exchange

I need users who are using exchange servers to please do the following for me:
Send yourself a test e-mail from a non exchange account like hotmail, ymail, yahoo, gmail, etc. Or heck, PM me and I'll mail you.
Reply to that e-mail from your Xoom
Note whether or not the reply actually sends or sits in your outbox
Respond here with the following data:
Xoom Model: Wifi / 3G
Android OS should be: 3.1
Exchange Server Version: 2003/2007/2010
Did your reply send: Yes / No
I am using:
Xoom: 3G
Android: 3.1
Exchange: 2003 (SP2)
My reply: Sits in outbox
- New emails work fine.
- Replies sit in outbox.
Worked fine for me.
Sent from Gmail
Xoom 3g powered by Verizon
Android 3.1
90% sure we are on exchange server 2007
My reply was sent.
Fine here - We run a Zimbra server.
Kcarpenter said:
Fine here - We run a Zimbra server.
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Thanks, I guess I should look up what a Zimbra server is but I assume that you set it up the same way in the Xoom as an Exchange server account?
Xoom: wifi
Android: 3.1
Exchange: 2007
My reply: sends everytime (assuming connected to wifi )
also, I should ask, have you tried deleting and reconfiguring the mail account?
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Xoom: wifi
Android: 3.1
Exchange: 2007
My reply: sends everytime (assuming connected to wifi )
also, I should ask, have you tried deleting and reconfiguring the mail account?
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No I have not, but I will do that right now.
Zimbra is an Open Source alternative to Exchange. Has 90% of all the stuff Exchange does and takes up all of $300.00 bucks a year of our budget. Which I could not pay if I wanted too, but I like it too much not not support development of it. FOSS FTW!
I deleted and reconfigured the account, careful to include DOMAIN/username and use the fully qualified domain name that my SSL certificate is named after and the results were the same:
I can generate new e-mail, which is sent fine.
I cannot respond to e-mail, it sits in the outbox.
Maddening.
Can anyone on Exchange 2003 test this?
I had the same issue last week. I haven't done any further testing, but I do think we have an exchange 2003 server.
Xoom Model: Wifi
Android OS should be: 3.1
Exchange Server Version: 2010
Did your reply send: Yes
Worked fine for me.
I am on:
XOOM (rooted, Tiamat 1.4.2, HC 3.1)
Microsoft Exchange 2003
My reply emails hang in the outbox. They don't send.
i use 2003 SP2. stock unrooted xoom wifi.
all works well.
however, last week i had a 3G launch day (feb 24) xoom and last week *I* had an issue where the emails sat in the outbox. i then, later that day it happened, received a security update OTA from the server. this may have been what the intermittent issue was.
now let me say the emails started flowing thru before i got this update. i would guess my downtime was a couple hours. i did not delete my account. it just "corrected" itself.
ill also add that i have an evo on the same server and it did not stop sending emails at all. so this may be a honey OS thing...
gdogmcstyles said:
I am on:
XOOM (rooted, Tiamat 1.4.2, HC 3.1)
Microsoft Exchange 2003
My reply emails hang in the outbox. They don't send.
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Xoom Wifi (Stock)
Exchange 2007
All works fine
Im finding out that some people i can respond to and some i cant. I have no idea what the issue is at this point.
Xoom wifi stock 3.1
Exchange 2003
Does not work, hangs in outbox.
I got fed up of the stock email client and moved to touchdown. The problem i was having was sync weren't working properly, all of a sudden stopped syncing.
I have exchange 2003, touchdown works fine
mariovi said:
I got fed up of the stock email client and moved to touchdown. The problem i was having was sync weren't working properly, all of a sudden stopped syncing.
I have exchange 2003, touchdown works fine
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I have not tried touchdown but after reading the user reviews I think that the UI will be terrible, and UI is important to me.
So far now, I will make due with being unable to respond to some users until this sorts itself out.
I like the TD UI, it's made for tablets now too (I didn't know that until I bought my Xoom two weeks ago). I use it on my HTC Inc too, and have never had any issues. I think you can use TD as a trial version for 30 days (?) to test it out and see how you'll like it.
We run Exchange 2007, and I use my Xoom 3.1 rooted and Inc rooted with out issues.
Xoom Model: 3G
Android OS: 3.1
Exchange Server Version: 2003 SP2
Did your reply send: No - Hangs in out box, hitting send all now does nothing.
Other bugs noticed:
Text entry cursor seems out of wack, doesn't show up in the same place as the movable green pointer. This also seems the affect the text black selection brackets. Very language (laggy), many edits to this post to make it readable
Wifi oddities with releasing and renewing IPs between two bssids.
Web browser not displaying some dynamic page elements properly, example - there is no scroll bar on this text entry box...making this post even more interesting (I have XDA Premium, but I like to torture myself).
This is all on stock 3.1, non root, locked Xoom
Omg...I give up
cwizardtx said:
I need users who are using exchange servers to please do the following for me:
Send yourself a test e-mail from a non exchange account like hotmail, ymail, yahoo, gmail, etc. Or heck, PM me and I'll mail you.
Reply to that e-mail from your Xoom
Note whether or not the reply actually sends or sits in your outbox
Respond here with the following data:
Xoom Model: Wifi / 3G
Android OS should be: 3.1
Exchange Server Version: 2003/2007/2010
Did your reply send: Yes / No
I am using:
Xoom: 3G
Android: 3.1
Exchange: 2003 (SP2)
My reply: Sits in outbox
- New emails work fine.
- Replies sit in outbox.
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I am willing to bet the problem is being caused by the changes made to activesync between ES2K3 and ES2K7. If I had to really guess it has to do with the 3.1's handling of ActiveSync connections and their dependence on policy based permissions inherited from ActiveSync. Unfortunately ActiveSync from ES2K3 did not support the use of ActiveSync policies, that feature was not added until ES2K7. That's why until the release of Exchange 2007 the only truly viable corporate messaging systems were based on BlackBerry servers.
I retired my 2K3 infrastructure 2 years ago, but I believe I still have the virtual machine builds from my test environment I can load up and test the theory.

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