Hello,
I am considering getting myself a XDA Exec. At the moment I use a handheld with Windows Mobile 2002/2003 for Pocket PC, and it is packed full of software- utils, aps and games.
I am concerned that if I were to get a XDA Exec I will miss much of the lovely software. Or does the PPC software run under WM2005?
In fact does the XDA Exec run WM2005 for PPC or for Mobiles?
Sorry if I seem extremely ignorant ;o)
Cheers
WM2005 = Windows Mobile 2005.
WM2003se (the last Pocket PC version) was rename to WM2003, so it is also Windows Mobile.
WM2003 and older Pocket PC software should generally be compatible, you'll be unlucky if it doesn't run. But some sofware, particularly system software like Today plugins, often have problems. But the majority of software should be fine.
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Will I be able to upgrade XDA's 2002 Version to 2003 when it's released in the next months ? :?:
No, at least not likely. Rumour has it that the new OS requires more than 32Mb of ROM. That is why the iPaq 3970 and 5450 (and a few others) carry 48Mb ROM.
Would we not be able to do a limited upgrade AKA the 3630 ipaq upgrade to 2002 and maybe add a few apps into ram ??
I hope so.
maybe also we can increase ROM size? does hardware supports this? As I know, RAM upgradeable on all MDAs/XDAs to 64Mb (and maybe more? I seen info but don't know how)
So if we'll got 48 or 64 of flash rom we can upgrade. But what 2003 system is will be? Can you give some infos about it?
Pocket PC 2003, codename Ozone, will primarily be a bug-fix release for Pocket PC 2002 with few enhancements. Users should not expect big changes.
Well i agree you may not notice many deffrence or changes but i was assured from people at Microsoft that majore changes within the OS will take place. I am not sure if they will ever be able the fix the bugs GOD knows each day we discover tonnes...
Anyways we should wait and see
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Why wouldn't it be possible to upgrade?
The amount of build-in ROM shouldnt be that much of a problem. Since PPC 2003 PE mainly features bugfixes that total size of the OS shouldn't have increased that much. Else it would be possible to install some application is RAM like they did for the iPAQ 36xx.
The only real reason I can think of is the lack of support from O2 and the other telco's that sell these devices.
Keep hoping!
Kamil
I think it is very possible to see XDA can upgrade to PPC 2003 phone edition, however the upgrade may not be free. I look forword to upgrade my T-Mobile MDA with a PPC 2003 O2 English ROM :twisted: .
Pocket PC 2003 Phone Edition
More About Pocket PC 2003
Microsoft recently gave developers an overview of the next version of its Pocket PC operating system. Codename Ozone, this will primarily be a bug-fix release for Pocket PC 2002 with a few enhancements.
Developers will have access to new tools to allow them to build applications that take fuller advantage of the XScale processors found in most of today's handhelds. However, these applications will not run under Pocket PC 2002. Of course, the reverse is not true, as Pocket PC 2003 will retain backward compatibility.
Microsoft has decided to postpone adding other new features, such as voiced control, until a .NET version of Pocket PC is completed -- expected in two to three years.
it will be possible to upgrade the 3870 too ...and it has the same amount of rom ...if i'm not wrong ...
Er... according to Microsoft sources, pocket PC 2003 phone edition runs on Windows CE 4.2 - this is more than a bug fix release!
2003
does anyone have a copy of the BETA version floating around?
IT works fine
I have hacked to HTC phone, parts are SX56 and parts are XDA, but I am running 2003 fine on it right now. There seems to be all sorts of little things, and some of the skins are much prettier, but other than that I don't notice anything huge.
Yeah, I am running Palm OS 6 in my reconstruted XDA with 256M ram and Amd Opteron processor too. It is extermely fast, as fast as my Desktop computer.
hehe :lol:
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Yeah, I am running Palm OS 6 in my reconstruted XDA with 256M ram and Amd Opteron processor too. It is extermely fast, as fast as my Desktop computer.
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Thats not rue, ist it?
WOuöd br the best solution
Sorry, my BT-Desktop´s Battery was empty :shock:
YESSSS!!!
xda with PocketPC2003 is a reality! At least one such device was received by local pda-related software company for review. I have no details about current devices upgrade availability, though.
The only fact is: PocketPC2003 for xda exists and should be pre-installed to new devices after OS will be presented by Microsoft.
I have it on good authority that it is feasible to put PC2003 onto Xda, however this will only happen for evaluation purposes and is unlikely to be available as a general upgrade.
i have a java program on my laptop that works fine with all windows as long as java is installed in it, i have a meeting very soon where i might not have internet access but i need to present this SW so i need soloution for either how to connect the XDA to my laptop through usb cradle or even better can i make the java file work on my XDA
PS my java file is 3 files
1. file.jar "is the main file"
2. file.bat "contains like a dos command to initiate the above file"
3. file.properties "file needed by the jar file to read some prefixed setting & configs"
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On the installation CD for the Compaq Ipaq there is a jvm called Jeode. I have not been able to fool it into thinking the Qtek is an Ipaq so it will install, but if you do that might be a solution.
Otherwise you could try to get hold of an old PPC2002-rom which includes the wmodem application. This will make it possible to use the Qtek as a wireless modem.
this is it, i have no idea what with the wmodem business that makes it impossible to have it on wm 2003, this is microsoft anyways, they make a product & use people as ginni pigs & maybe mw 2005 will be like windows xp the best SW with as few as 16000 bugs only
it's not a wm2003 issue because my xda2 have 2003 along with wireless modem
Rudegar said:
it's not a wm2003 issue because my xda2 have 2003 along with wireless modem
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but i guess u have the german version, write, if not which version are you using & if you do have the germen version, would it be impossible for an english person to navagate through it?
no i dont have a german version i have an XDA2
Rudegar said:
no i dont have a german version i have an XDA2
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so which version you have i need Wmodem yesterday :shock: i would be gratefull if you tell me how are u using it with your laptop
For JVM on XDA II try Creme.
Jeode have tested a JVM for XDA II but O2 have not licenced it so not available.
http://www.nsicom.com/products/creme.asp
rgds
David
Hi,
I am in the process of converting some of my Pocket PC 2002 apps to Pocket PC 2003 and I noticed the applications appear in the wrong place for the XDA II.
I have worked out the XDA II screen is a different size to my Dell Axim device, does anyone know what the exact screen size is (in pixels) for the XDA II please?
*I recommend Visual Stdio.NET 2003 to anyone who is thinking of developing applications for the XDA II device, VS.NET 2003 is very easy to use and you can have an application up and running within an hour*
Cheers,
Taz
and better yet with 2005 which is still beta
you can also program to the pda's without
.net if you dont want to something which you
need eMbedded visual studio to do today
HP is pleased to announce that we will be supporting the Microsoft® Windows Mobile™ Version 5.0 for Pocket PC upgrade for the HP iPAQ Pocket PC.
HP will provide upgrades for the HP iPAQ hx4700, hx2000 series iPAQ Pocket PC.
The new Microsoft Windows Mobile Version 5.0 includes:
* ActiveSync 4.0, the most current synchronization software for faster management and transfer of information on your PC server
* Improved Productivity
* Faster access to email and information
* New Office Mobile Suite
* Word Mobile for great document format support
* Excel Mobile for better support when viewing and creating charts
* PowerPoint Mobile for viewing and giving presentation on the go
* Secure Device Management
* Integrated Multimedia (Windows Media Player 10)
* More support for media via services and the desktop
* More options to use media to personalize devices
* Persistent Store
* Voice Command, which allows you to go hands free easily and safely
* Pocket MSN, which permits one click access to MSN Hotmail and MSN Messenger
* Games
This offer will be made available in late Summer 2005.
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Now, they include the hx2000 series, but the hx2110 has got the same amount of RAM that the Magician has. Am I missing something or does this mean that WM 5.0 theoretically would run on a Magician?
Yes nothing to stop it running techinically but it's just getting hold of the right 'flavour' of it for the magician (perhaps the HP one will be close?).
Be content with WM2003 SE - at least it's stable and all the software works. I had WM2005 on my XDA 2 for about a week, and then went back to WM2003SE as nothing worked properly.
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Be content with WM2003 SE - at least it's stable and all the software works. I had WM2005 on my XDA 2 for about a week, and then went back to WM2003SE as nothing worked properly.
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If I'd be one of those content guys I'd still be running Windows 3.1 on my computer. I always want to try new stuff and half of my software on my Magician are betas.
I also guess that the version you used was a beta and thus not much worked.
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Yes nothing to stop it running techinically but it's just getting hold of the right 'flavour' of it for the magician (perhaps the HP one will be close?).
Be content with WM2003 SE - at least it's stable and all the software works. I had WM2005 on my XDA 2 for about a week, and then went back to WM2003SE as nothing worked properly.
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heh, thats why companies have not released upgrades and new devices yet. They need to properly deploy it to each target device so it works* as its supposed to
I have O2 mini. But looks like O2 support is worse.
Everyday I go to their seeo2 website just to check whether they have upgrade for my o2 mini, but the website always say "your current one is up to date".
Well, they must have very intelegent software there that they can detect my o2 mini is version 1.11 WWE instead of original 1.03 WWE :lol:
Just my 2 cents
Arto
Loboman said:
dangel said:
Be content with WM2003 SE - at least it's stable and all the software works. I had WM2005 on my XDA 2 for about a week, and then went back to WM2003SE as nothing worked properly.
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If I'd be one of those content guys I'd still be running Windows 3.1 on my computer. I always want to try new stuff and half of my software on my Magician are betas.
I also guess that the version you used was a beta and thus not much worked.
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Yes but you _still_ can't run a whole bunch of software right now as it's plain incompatible.. :roll:
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Yes but you _still_ can't run a whole bunch of software right now as it's plain incompatible.. :roll:
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Yeah, that much I understand. We'd need a ROM that is compatible with the Magician before we can use it, and there's nothing that points to that it will ever be released, but _if_ it comes, I'll certainly install it since WM5 now is final and not beta anymore
I know this may sound stupid, but what's the difference between a smartphone & PocketPC ? I've got a v1640 and it boots up with windows mobile 5.0 and the information says it's running pocket PC. But....on some web sites they call it a smartphone and when I install software for smartphones, sometimes they run and other times it says "up yours". And then I also get the same problems when running software for Pocket PC's, does it have to be PocketPC 2002, 2003 or windows mobile 5.0 to run properly. Funny thing is on Microsoft's site they call it a smartphone and vodaphone call it a smartphone but when I tried to run the tweaks2k2 program for smartphones, guess what ? It said "Get Stuffed, this program only runs on smartphones and mine is running PocketPC ! (You know what I mean). So the question is do i install software for a smartphone or PocketPC ?
You got a "Windows Mobile PocketPc(PPC)" Running "Windows Mobile 5.0(WM5)"
Use only programs that have support for PPC, and WM5
That some call it a SmartPhone, just shows how smart they are ;-)
Until the platforms have merged you can use a simple rule of thumb
Pocket PC = touch screen and stylus
Smartphone = no touch screen, no stylus.