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Since I have a new SD card (tried Sandisk 512MB now using Extrememory 1GB) my Himalaya is suffering frequent lock-ups when I am running TomTom 3.03 (with TomTom GPS 3.07) and I end a phone call.
Also the device is reacting much slower in general with the new card in: Sometimes when trying to answer a phone call vai my BT headset the call simply isnt transfered (but after few secs in the same call transferring does work)
When I put in my 'old' Kingston 256MB everything is fine. I did not change anything else.
Filesystem on all cards is FAT.
Any clues ont this???
good question. also happens to me on a sandisk 256mb. but i can't attribute it to the card for sure YET..
Since I did not change anything at all, I must be the SD . . .or at least my Himalaya together with my SD . . .
Hi,
It has to do with the SD card. I have an Apacer 256MB SD card and also tested HP branded 128MB SD card. Everytime that the card is in the SD slot the machine is slow. Slow to switch on (about 2 seconds) delay and 5 seconds delay to switch off. Most noticable is to activate the bluetooth setting page. Clicking on the BT icon on the lower right hand corner, at times takes between 5 to 30 seconds for the page to display. Selecting any options will also cause delays and closing the page also causes delay. I have tested this countless of times. Remove the SD card everything goes back to normal (that is no delay at all).
The problem presists from the first version of ROM ie 1.52.00WWE and now the 1.60.00WWE. I wonder if it is resolved in higher version of the ROM.
Regards,
Kueh.
Hey guys,
This file should fix SD cards stability issue.
this was provided from i-mate support site.
hope it will work :wink:
Thanks for the patch, but I have some extra questions on this:
- Is the patch for Himalaya specifically?
- Is There a reason why some devices act differently on certains SD cards (I have had he same behaviour with a Sandisk 512MB, that card is widely spread, also in the himalaya world)
- What is causing the behaviour (ie what aspect of the Himalaya or the SD card, can we detect such SD card from the outside (ie via a blacklist wiht model/serial numbers)?
edsub said:
Thanks for the patch, but I have some extra questions on this:
- Is the patch for Himalaya specifically?
- Is There a reason why some devices act differently on certains SD cards (I have had he same behaviour with a Sandisk 512MB, that card is widely spread, also in the himalaya world)
- What is causing the behaviour (ie what aspect of the Himalaya or the SD card, can we detect such SD card from the outside (ie via a blacklist wiht model/serial numbers)?
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yes the patch is designed for himalaya.
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Drivers\SDIO]
"SDMemory"="0.15.00 HIMA"
I have no idea why some SD react differently???
me and a friend of mine both have i-mate and went together to by Kingmax 512 SD ! guess what ? mine did work smoothly , his card was hanging the device all the time!
so same SD brands also act diffrently on different devices. :!:
I did not run the patch yet, but I checked the registry.
Guess what: This value is allready set.
The following values apear to be present under the SDIO key:
Common = 0.15.10 HIMA
SDBusDriver = 0.15.00 HIMA
SDMemory = 0.15.00 HIMA
Any other suggestions??
Is it stated on the iMate website for what ROM version this should work? I have a 1.72.00 / 1.72.903 (T-Mobile 1.72.192 based) ROM
@edsub:
I am using your created Homecooked ROM 1.72.903 without any problem regarding SD 1GB. Have you tried different vendor other than Sandisk (eg. from friends that have same size card)?
I am using Lexar 1 GB SD, without any lock-ups so far (finger crossed).
edsub said:
I did not run the patch yet, but I checked the registry.
Guess what: This value is allready set.
The following values apear to be present under the SDIO key:
Common = 0.15.10 HIMA
SDBusDriver = 0.15.00 HIMA
SDMemory = 0.15.00 HIMA
Any other suggestions??
Is it stated on the iMate website for what ROM version this should work? I have a 1.72.00 / 1.72.903 (T-Mobile 1.72.192 based) ROM
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The patch is advised to be use on ROM 1.72.
the reg value in my last post was to show that it is designed for himalaya.
find below full reg values for the patch. i have checked on my device and it seems that Driver\active\47 is missing!!! so this patch is adding it.
this is according to my ROM 2.06 se.
i did't try the patch because i don't have SD problems, please let me know your feed back. is it working?
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Drivers\SDIO]
"SDMemory"="0.15.00 HIMA"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\Active\47]
"Hnd"=dword:00627c40
"Name"="DSK3:"
"Key"="\Drivers\SDCARD\ClientDrivers\Class\SDMemory_Class"
"ClientInfo"=dword:006103e8
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Ok, thanks for the update (yesterday I want able to open the cab).
The 47 key was missing with me.
Just ran the patch, I will let you know the results. . .
@superperry: The situation before running the patch: I have NO issues with my 256MB Kingston. I DID have the issues with a new Sandisk 512MB. For that reason the shop took it back and I bought the 1GB Extrememory instead. Also with the Extrememory 1GB I DO have the issues.
no success
Unfortunately running the patch did not solve the lockup-issue.
Maybe it has something to do with the characteristics of my SD card. As you might know just the Sd card label is not enough to identify it.
Could anyone please post the model no & country of manufacture of cards that do and dont work?
Does work:
Kingston 256MB - SD-256B1 - Japan
Doesn't work:
SanDisk 512MB - ??? - China
Extrememory 1GB - SD1GBM04S0449 - Taiwan
I use a Sandisk 1 GB from china and a Sandisk 64 MB from Taiwan
both of them work just fine.
Pleun: no issues with TomTom either?
Nope, I have benelux, austria, germany, france, switzerland and major roads of europe on it plus a load of MP3 , no problems yet.........
btw just upgraded to 2.20 SE rom, must reinstall all applications, but so far so good :lol:
re installed tt3, sprint db and some databases, no problems so far, looks good. I'm now 2.20.07CHS
kingston 128,
trancend 128,
both working....
just one question.... the trancend package indicates it runs 45X, how come when i benchmarked it using pocket mechanic it only scores 5.5X read and 1X write?
The actual speed is the result of combined capabilities of the device & the card.
My SD Cards also perform around 5.5x read and <1.0x write . . .
This SD-Card sh*t is really annoying me. WHAT could make the difference???
BEWARE of the SD patch
Just a warning before you use the SD patch posted above.
After I installed it, I saw it did not solve my problem. That's just bad luck.
BUT: After I installed it my Bluetooth headset stopped working. Even worse: I wasnt able to bond it anymore (incorrect pin). I was able to bond it to my old Nokia phone, so the headset was ok.
Uninstall of the patch did not solve this.
Neither did a soft-reset.
Had to hard-reset
Lucky me I had a pre-patch backup!! 8)
I still hate it I cannot determine from the outside if any SD card will work on my Himalaya!!!!!! :evil:
COULD it be the card speed that creates the issues I have.
My benchmarks (using Pocketmechanic trial):
Works:
Kingston 256MB Read 0,87MB/s (5.9x) Write 0,01MB/s (0.1x)
Problems:
Extrememory 1GB Read 0,81MB/s (5.5x) Write 0,10MB/s (0,7x)
Can anyone post his benchmarks??
I have been using TomTom 3 with my XDAII for about a year with no problems. My XDA reset itself due to a battery problem and I have had to reinstall TTN3. I reinstalled the 3.01 application from the CD and added 2 30mb maps to the SD Card. Then updated to 3.03 from a downloaded file on my HDD. When I tried to use TomTom it was deathly slow, taking up to 10mins to launch the app and basically unuseable. Last night I tried updating the the XDA software to the latest, reinstalled TT again and the maps. This time it worked perfectly, connected to the BT GPS Reciever and got a full lock, navigating the app was really quick. Between then and this morning I did nothing to the phone at all. Got to work, tried TTN3 again and it was back to being deathly slow!
Today I have tried reinstalling TTN again, aswell as reformatting the SD card (viking interworks.) AND using a new SD card (sandisk). TomTom is just unusable.
I can't work out why this is happening. Can anyone shine some light on this please? Confused Sad
Make sure your bluetooth settings are correct and also the port setting on tomtom, start bluetooth then start the gps part of tomtom, then start tomtom main program, see if that makes it work any better.
i can't even get in to tomtom, it take about 10mins to open it. when it is open it does not respond.
Hi Guys,
As you may have read from previous posts, TomTom & I have had a very stormy relationship! Add to that huge memory leak problems on my XDA IIi & I was sure that Nav5 was going to get the usual thumbs down, but after removing the O2 Active UI by following the instuctions here:-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=18963
(didn't even need a hard re-set!!! :lol: my memory is fine now.
Loaded Nav 5 onto my unit from update CD
Then loaded all the maps from the 6 CDs (Hmm, that bit is still very naff but better than with Nav3), they won't quite fit onto 2 1gb SDs, & activated the free trial of TT Plus.
Then I drove from Sudbury, Suffolk to Dover via London, using the GB map, then on to Belfort, France (near Swiss & German borders) I always go via Luxembourg to avoid the french tolls. put in Belfort and Main Roads of EU kicked in from main app. it immediately asked if I wanted to avoid the toll roads, clicked yes & lo & behold it found my tried & tested route! Impressed! What's more it din't crash once :wink:
But when you get an incoming call it cuts of your GPS connection but then (most of the time) it re-establishes it (tho sometimes you have to re-configure, but that's now a lot easier if you use a TT receiver)
Last night used it all the way to Roskilde, Denmark, tonight we're off to Kristiansand, Norway. So far so, very, good!!!!
See! When something's right I big it up! I don't only whinge about the negative bits!!!
So far it's a big well done to TomTom for this version (XDA IIi-wise anyway)
Same here matey. Recently installed TT5 with GB maps only onto my XDA 2. No problems at all, connects within 20secs, never crashed yet and even works when receiving calls on my bt headset. GPS doesn't disconnect and when I hang up, it shows me at the correct location.
GENIUS
ive got an XDA2i and my TT5 seems to crash more often than not. especially when searching for POIs (ie take me to nearest petrol station... CRASH)
i admit i am using a hooky version, but if it's this bad i wont be buying it! (which i intended to)
im running an XDA2i with corporate install (no O2 Active UI) and an aftermarket bluetooth GPS.
its also annoying that TT5 disables bluetooth when you quit, and its v. awkward to re-enable it whilst driving (its a little button afterall...)
I'm using a hooky version too. TT5 £10 from ebay!!! Works like a dream. I've got an XDA II, removed 02 Active UI.
Bluetooth doesn't disconnect when TT5 is ended. I must be so lucky!!
jim galbally said:
ive got an XDA2i and my TT5 seems to crash more often than not. especially when searching for POIs (ie take me to nearest petrol station... CRASH)
i admit i am using a hooky version, but if it's this bad i wont be buying it! (which i intended to)
im running an XDA2i with corporate install (no O2 Active UI) and an aftermarket bluetooth GPS.
its also annoying that TT5 disables bluetooth when you quit, and its v. awkward to re-enable it whilst driving (its a little button afterall...)
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I'be got a ~5mb patch which will fix this problem, EVERY time I turned on certain POI's it would crash
Not any more and it seems MUCH more stable.
If you've got anywhere I can up it, let me know.
jim galbally said:
ive got an XDA2i and my TT5 seems to crash more often than not. especially when searching for POIs (ie take me to nearest petrol station... CRASH)
i admit i am using a hooky version, but if it's this bad i wont be buying it! (which i intended to)
im running an XDA2i with corporate install (no O2 Active UI) and an aftermarket bluetooth GPS.
its also annoying that TT5 disables bluetooth when you quit, and its v. awkward to re-enable it whilst driving (its a little button afterall...)
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Jim, there is no way of knowing what bugs can arise when using patched/cracked software. I never use bluetooth gps either since I got an xda because I see so many problems, also if its for car use only I think a wired gps is more practical/reliable.
@ PC_Arcade:
You could always post the patch here, but if not then you could always PM me with the patch, it would be HIGHLY Appreciated!!!!!
Cheers!!!!!!!
OK, I've PM'd you the patch
Please could you upload it to the ftp for me (I'm @ work and I can't use FTP) so it can be linked here?
cruisin-thru said:
Jim, there is no way of knowing what bugs can arise when using patched/cracked software. I never use bluetooth gps either since I got an xda because I see so many problems, also if its for car use only I think a wired gps is more practical/reliable.
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...TomTom5 is known to have a lot of bugs, even for legit users. I've had every version of TomTom and every major release sucks till they patch it..
@ PC_Arcade:
If the patch is too large for PM, you could always email me!
Thanks again in advance!
Cheers!!!
it's just over 5mb, too big for hotmail too IIRC
dangel said:
cruisin-thru said:
Jim, there is no way of knowing what bugs can arise when using patched/cracked software. I never use bluetooth gps either since I got an xda because I see so many problems, also if its for car use only I think a wired gps is more practical/reliable.
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...TomTom5 is known to have a lot of bugs, even for legit users. I've had every version of TomTom and every major release sucks till they patch it..
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Just for the record I am a legit user and I like TomTom 5 just for one reason and that is the street signing, its like somebody is holding the sign out for you to read as you go along, neat.
OK, the patch is here
I have been totally unable to upload it onto the ftp here
Could someone please move it to there so I can change the link?
Thanks VERY much for the patch Arcade, have yet to test it, but I'm sure it will help. Installed it into the "2577" folder, is that correct? Its the only one with "ttn.cab" in it.
On a seperate note I want to install TomTom on the main memory of my XDA, with the maps still on SD card. I've heard this helps. Anyone know exactly which folders I need to copy to memory? Is it all, except maps? How will TTN know to look on the SD card for the maps though ?
Chop - thanks for success story, I brought the XDA and TTN5 expecially for a road trip around europe in a months time. Although I'm taking paper maps for backup, I was hoping I would be able to rely on TTN5. Don't think thats gonna happen now.
foaf said:
Thanks VERY much for the patch Arcade, have yet to test it, but I'm sure it will help. Installed it into the "2577" folder, is that correct? Its the only one with "ttn.cab" in it.
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Not quite, you need to copy all the files in the rar over then run the .cab file. which will re-install TTN5
For safety's sake it might be work backing up your data.chk file as well.
On a seperate note I want to install TomTom on the main memory of my XDA, with the maps still on SD card. I've heard this helps. Anyone know exactly which folders I need to copy to memory? Is it all, except maps? How will TTN know to look on the SD card for the maps though ?
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The easiest way is to reinstall tomtom using the patch I posted and just install it to main memory, it will automatically use the maps on the card
All I have on the storage card is the GB map directory and an empty tomtom directory, hope that helps
Chop - thanks for success story, I brought the XDA and TTN5 expecially for a road trip around europe in a months time. Although I'm taking paper maps for backup, I was hoping I would be able to rely on TTN5. Don't think thats gonna happen now.
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TTN5 is fantastic, I can't remember how I lived without it :lol:
It's incredibly stable now too, although I did have to create a blank directory called tomtom on the SD card to get 7 digit postcodes to work
to make the postcodes work you need to put the file in a folder called zip in the root of the sd card.
Hi all
Could you tell me which file i have to put in the ZIP folder on the SD card?
@ pc_arcade : Is it the poi.dat file that is patched or the ttn.cab ?
Will it only work for GB map or for all maps ?
pleun said:
@ pc_arcade : Is it the poi.dat file that is patched or the ttn.cab ?
Will it only work for GB map or for all maps ?
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It's the content of the cab file that contains the patched files
AFAIK it works for all maps, can anyone confirm?
Can you tell me how to get full (7 didget) postcode working please ?????
Have just received my Kingston 1GB Transflash card and installed TTN v602 on my Hermes.
Installation was succesfull but each time I start TTN the software freezes. It wont respond to any screen taps. If I go back to the Today Screen and select the TTN icon in the sys tray it brings TTN back up and it works fine.
Anyone else exerienced this and know of any fix...
Many thanks
Try and wait for a long long time. My Charmer starts TomTom.. in.. almost 2 minutes.
I run TT 6.02 (7980) on an German Vario II
This Version makes nothing Problems
It wont respond to any screen taps. If I go back to the Today Screen and select the TTN icon in the sys tray it brings TTN back up and it works fine.
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I get the exact same problem sometimes. I just figured that it was doing it because it was reading off the card or something.
Running TTN601 on mine... Have a similar problem... I've setup a key (recorder key) to start software for ease and find if you run it up, hit red end call button then restart (I then use rec button) all is well and it won't lock up.
Very strange...
I did have a problem with it locking up on a longish journey, say 80 miles or so.. I had to re install it and since the re install it has been perfect (watch it lock up now !!)
Also running it on a new 2Gb sandisk card, only £33 off Ebay, not bad value. Just copied one card to the other via 2 card readers, no problems, I mention that as some folks appear to have had problems.
Phil
Well Im glad its not just me - makes me feel better! Still, TTN worked perfectly on my Wizard so I am very confused as to why it gives me probs now.
Maybe its down to the Transflash card. Over the weekend I will do some more testing and re-installation and let you know how I get on.
Merry XMAS everyone!
same problem here. it always seems to crash when i'm entering in a postcode. Always took me about 3 attempts to type in the full code!
Yep, same here as well, tapping the red end call button and then clicking on the tomtom hands again does bring it back but it is very annoying, needs to be fixed though along with the bluetooth issues as well.
I would not of got this phone if i new about these issues, i am sure these problems can be resolved with a new firmware, the trouble is T-Mobile seems to be useless as releasing one. There are other ones released so that might be an option if they dont hurry up and release a new one.
The wizard was much more reliable, had very few issues with that once flashed with molskis rom shame one cant be made for this model.
TTN 6 is a bit of a slug on my tytn, especially when you enter a street and it has to crunch through the list.. it 'crashes' occasionally when you select exit.. apart from that though it starts snappy and does it's job.
In my case, TomTom freezes only when I load big(ger) maps like Western-Europe or the Benelux-Plus. When I load a smaller map, say the Benelux, then TomTom works like a charm, no freezes at all!
I tried TomTom 6.0, 6.01 and 6.02: all the same problems with large(r) maps.
Same Problem
I've the same problem when i use the TT without a GPS-Device. When GPS device is on, there is no problem at all. No Idea Why....
Fuzzi
Hi! I raised the same problem about one month ago but without any reasonable solution. Someone tell to delete the COM port on the BT pair, someone tell to enable security on the COM port of the BT pair... I tried all TTN6 versions (6.0, 6.0.1 and 6.0.2) on my TyTN (also with different ROM versions) but Navigator still freezes when inserting adresses, with or without GPS receiver (I'm using TomTom Wireless GPS MkII)...
See also:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-284440.html
digitaldreams said:
I tried all TTN6 versions (6.0, 6.0.1 and 6.0.2) on my TyTN v
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I have experience the same with my tytn with latest htc rom I have now installed v5.210 and tested today on 2 trips 20 & 50 mile trips without any freezing so will stick with this for now..
Was there any update to this? or is it basically go back to version 5 of TT?
Cheers
If it any help I'm running TTN601 with a Holux GPSlim236. It is set to use Com port 4 with no additional input or output ports configured.
If I run TT and then within a few seconds try to navigate by entering either a postcode or an address etc it will lock up and I have to exit the program.
I have found that if I run the program up, then close it (it doesn't really appear to shut, just the screen returns to the today screen) then re run TT it will then work without a hitch.. I've setup my voice recorder button to run TT on 1 short press to save even needing the stylus.
I guess it may be a memory problem why it locks up but this method works 100 % for me since I started doing it and it's no great hassle with a key having been configured..
TTN6.01 works fine, I've got all the real voices setup for speed camera warnings etc (the OGG files). I don't bother with the TT cameras, I use pocketgps for mine...
Just incase it's a memory issue I've just checked mine by clicking on the version sats icon, then version icon on the screen.
I'm running version 6.010 (7720) with 16.6MB of free ram and gps driver v1.2.. I understand that there is version 6.02 available but that may cause me problems greater than the minor quick restart one so I will stick with this one for now...
p.s some folks seem to think that the larger the micro sd card you have the slower the Tytn(m3100 in my case) seems to get but I've got a 2 gig card loaded with MP3's and even a couple of full length movies should I get board over christmas and the new year (sad isn't it !) and it appears no slower than with a half empty 1 gig card..
May be some of that is of help..
Phil
Some other strange issues...
Not sure if this problem is related to TT freezing, but after I have been out on a journey and closed TomTom down a few of the icons from my Start --> Settings --> System screen are missing.
I have lost GETPDA.exe so cant post what remains - but things like Device Info are missing. They return after a soft boot.
Anyone else have the same probs?
Happy new year!
I'm using the latest Australian ROM, and TomTom Navigator 6.02, running the Australian map with no issues at all. Navigation is fast, and works perfectly with no crashes - I just returned from a ~2500km journey using TomTom on my phone the whole way with no issues at all.
Running a GlobalSat BT308 bluetooth GPS, security enabled, set to COM0.
Problem Resolved!
Ok - looks like TomTom have released an update that fixes the issue with the Hermes crashing during menu selection.
I now have version 6.100 (7970) installed and it works perfectly!
EDIT - also, this new version is sooo fast!! A vast improvement!
No Issues (with the software at least)
Hello All
I hav ebeen using TomTom v6.0 on my HTC TyTN for 2 months now. I have had no issues at all. No slowness, no crashing. The only issue is the Bluetooth connection to my receiver.
I am using the GB maps, so not huge.
Just waiting now for the update at the end of the month to solve the Bluetooth Issues so that the connection to my Bluetooth receiver does not keep dropping the connection.
O well, we will wait and see
TyTNMan
6.1 not available at tomtom.com
nmonger, do you know, why ver 6.1 is not available at tomtom.com as an update for ver 6.0?
If I bought 6.0, where do I now get 6.1 if not from tomtom website?
Thanks an regards,
ARO
Hello all
I've done lots of searching on here and elsewhere and I've found lots of useful info but no definitive answer to this...
Until recently I was using TT5.21 with the original GB-only map on an unbranded 512MB SD card on my 3-year-old Himalaya (02 XDAII) with no problems. I then upgraded to the TT5 v6.60 Western Europe map and needed a new, larger SD card. Realising that my Himalaya is of advancing age, I avoided the latest high-speed cards and settled for a basic Kingston 2GB card.
Since then my TT has periodically frozen - often in one particular spot that I pass regularly, always whilst travelling in the same direction (edit: I pass the spot most days travelling both east and west but TT only freezes when going west). I have put this down to the well-documented issue of the Himalaya having insufficient oomph to power both the card reader when it is reading the TT map and the phone handshaking with a new cell.
I have uninstalled some little-used apps from storage memory and used the slider to allocate as much memory as possible to programs (original 02 WM2003 1.72 ROM). This has improved matters somewhat (I presume that the Himalaya does not have to read the map so often, thus reducing the chance of this activity coinciding with a cell change - am I right?) but I still get occasional freezes and only a soft reset and restarting TT sorts it out.
So far this has only happened on the open road and hasn't caused me too much trouble yet. However if I was in the city on an unfamiliar route it could get me into big trouble!
My question is - would a ROM upgrade sort this out? what about an updated driver for the card reader (is there such a thing or is it built into the ROM?)? am I using the wrong spec of SD card? or is it a hardware problem with the Himalaya that can never be fixed?
I have also read that an MMC card may solve the problem as it doesn't use as much power - any comments?
Thanks in advance
The Doctor
Sounds familiar..the only solution for me, was to obtain 2gb mmc card, and that solved my problems. I also had kingston 2gb, which was said to be compatible, but really wasn't.
Fixed!
Hi all
In the end I took Jarno's advice and switched to a 2GB MMC card. It's now been in use for several weeks with not a single freeze - thanks for the tip, Jarno666!
Of course, now that I've posted this the damned thing will of course freeze on the way home...
...the upside being that if it doesn't, I will know that it is really, really fixed.
Cheers
The Doctor :
Of course, now that I've posted this the damned thing will of course freeze on the way home...
...the upside being that if it doesn't, I will know that it is really, really fixed.
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It didn't, so I guess it is.
The Doctor