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TomTom5 gets slower and slower when in use..

I've got a problem with my new MDA Pro and my legal copy of TomTom5.
It looks like TomTom is getting slower and slower when I use it, almost like there's a memory leak or buffers that are overflowing.
When I start TomTom and directly close it, there's no problem.
But when I start and navigate for about half an hour, the maps aren't draw smoothly anymore. Just like a cartoonmovie where some images are missing, the picture is "jumping" (hope you know what I mean).
When navigating for about one hour TomTom takes about 2 minutes to close and the program memory has about 10 Mb less than before I started TomTom. This memory is (as far as I know) only released with a soft-reset.
When navigating for more than 90 minutes TomTom doesn't close anymore and there's no reaction from my MDA. A soft-reset was the only solution.
I have this problem not only when navigating, also when I use the "advanced planning" option this problem occurs.
All POI's are disabled.
When TomTom slows down, it's not only the program. All other functions of the PDA slow down. For instance, when I receive a text message the sound takes about 30 seconds to complete the notification sound... :?
My MDA Pro is upgraded with the latest T-Mobile Netherlands ROM.
Don't know if the problem also occurs with the origininal ROM because I flashed it right after I bought it.
TomTom is version 5.21.
Any thoughts?

Using the same windows rom (vodafone ext) I have the similar issue, I can install it and get as far as choosing a voice, when it gets so slow it stops, after which it closes. Oh dear! No more tomtom. Big problem and no one knows how to fix it, amazed you got it to go as far as actually loading up at all.
Greg.

greg123 said:
Using the same windows rom (vodafone ext) I have the similar issue, I can install it and get as far as choosing a voice, when it gets so slow it stops, after which it closes. Oh dear! No more tomtom. Big problem and no one knows how to fix it, amazed you got it to go as far as actually loading up at all.
Greg.
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Greg...I can see you've searching up and down on this....pm me and Ill take your headache away m8.
BR

Any change you could let me in on the secret too?

gps problem

hi . i have a htc p3600 with wm5 original and my gps take to much time to "see" all satelits always when i want to use gps i open iGO but i must to wait few minutes(3-4-5) to receive the signal. i think i have a problem with my gps software. i instaled it on my card. what can i do? pls help me. thanks

hey... nobody don't know? c`mon help me

i think it's normal for a cold start...that's what i got on mine with igo: 4 minutes in my house, should be less in open air.
there's a thread about that (search for visual gps i think) , some "heat" their gps with visual gps or same kind of soft and find the fixx faster afterward in the gps soft (igo or tt)

reset17 said:
i think it's normal for a cold start...that's what i got on mine with igo: 4 minutes in my house, should be less in open air.
there's a thread about that (search for visual gps i think) , some "heat" their gps with visual gps or same kind of soft and find the fixx faster afterward in the gps soft (igo or tt)
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go outside and stay still...
normally you'll get your fix round 1-2 minutes...
if you go around it will take much longer...
as reset17 said: use the board search..there are plenty of threats...

Cold start can take a few minutes, however i rarley see more than 2 when inside, using Tom Tom.

GPS Problem
I suggest that you upgrade to the WM6 ROM. It is much faster connect.

whitch rom suggest me to use?

You will like it!!
mariusY said:
whitch rom suggest me to use?
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http://www.4shared.com/file/25256898/30aeb9cb/Karmba_a_12_EN_SE.html?dirPwdVerified=3f1edd78

Just a few questions.

With all the custom programs out there for the mogul, I'm in heaven. So far most everything has worked great. I'm running DCD 3.0.1, with the newest radio. A few small issues, but for me nothing to get worked up about.
Recently, I did alot of researching into GPS software. I wanted a program that was kinda like a all in one. One GPS program to do it all. I've tried quite a few and settled on the Garmin XT. It does pretty much everything for mobile Gps. As for Geocaching or "on foot" GPS, I use Tracky.
Now with this in mind, I was noticing some of the things I've seen other people talk about. Jump Starting the GPS. Very critical, especially with garmin. So I decided to give that Astrolauncher program a shot. For Garmin, it works like a champ. Only problem I find is with the Time. The first thing I noticed was the garmin part switched to night mode in the middle of the day time. Didn't think much about it. I closed the program out and later on noticed the time was WAYYY off on the phone. Only way to fix it is to restart the phone. I can't seem to narrow the problem down. Is this a program that is being initiated with Astrolauncher? Or is it a problem with the Garmin GPS? Does anyone else notice this? When it does happen, if I restart the phone, then restart Garmin, it is fine. But it seems like its the initial startup where it happens.
Any ideas?
Just for info, I will do a review on my findings for all my GPS software I've played with.
Thanks for the ideas in advance.
Chem

Chemdawg said:
With all the custom programs out there for the mogul, I'm in heaven. So far most everything has worked great. I'm running DCD 3.0.1, with the newest radio. A few small issues, but for me nothing to get worked up about.
Recently, I did alot of researching into GPS software. I wanted a program that was kinda like a all in one. One GPS program to do it all. I've tried quite a few and settled on the Garmin XT. It does pretty much everything for mobile Gps. As for Geocaching or "on foot" GPS, I use Tracky.
Now with this in mind, I was noticing some of the things I've seen other people talk about. Jump Starting the GPS. Very critical, especially with garmin. So I decided to give that Astrolauncher program a shot. For Garmin, it works like a champ. Only problem I find is with the Time. The first thing I noticed was the garmin part switched to night mode in the middle of the day time. Didn't think much about it. I closed the program out and later on noticed the time was WAYYY off on the phone. Only way to fix it is to restart the phone. I can't seem to narrow the problem down. Is this a program that is being initiated with Astrolauncher? Or is it a problem with the Garmin GPS? Does anyone else notice this? When it does happen, if I restart the phone, then restart Garmin, it is fine. But it seems like its the initial startup where it happens.
Any ideas?
Just for info, I will do a review on my findings for all my GPS software I've played with.
Thanks for the ideas in advance.
Chem
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I have stated before that VisualGPSce is my fav for this as it seems to lock the fastest for me. However, the new Sprint radio seems to lock for me in less than a minute on the highway every time. I rarely use VisualGPSce anymore.
If you can get TomTom, try that. I find it better and more user friendly than garmin. I do believe there is a way to turn off night mode within the settings on Garmin though.

I have not tried those two, but I will. I'm always willing to give new things a shot. As far as Garmin goes, I already have a Garmin Street Pilot, so I'm very familiar with how they work. I'm still baffled about this time thing. It doesn't do it all the time. I think if using Astrolauncher, to start the program, if it doens't lock like RIGHT away, the time goes to the GPS time which (Being that it's not locked yet), is wrong.
Make sense?

Chemdawg said:
I have not tried those two, but I will. I'm always willing to give new things a shot. As far as Garmin goes, I already have a Garmin Street Pilot, so I'm very familiar with how they work. I'm still baffled about this time thing. It doesn't do it all the time. I think if using Astrolauncher, to start the program, if it doens't lock like RIGHT away, the time goes to the GPS time which (Being that it's not locked yet), is wrong.
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I didn't see a link to Garmin in the install for Astro, I thought only TomTom and iGuidance. It may not help you with Garmin, but having not used it I can't say. You may be better with another primer program.

While I am not using either of those aps, I would wonder if going through the setting, you should be able to turn off the 'time sync w/ satellites' and just rely on other means for setting the time. i.e. phone network, or synced computer.
On the other hand, I have been using navizon to prime my gps w/ no time problems.
You may want to give it a shot, you can even make a little money while traveling around...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2057112

Chemdawg said:
With all the custom programs out there for the mogul, I'm in heaven. So far most everything has worked great. I'm running DCD 3.0.1, with the newest radio. A few small issues, but for me nothing to get worked up about.
Recently, I did alot of researching into GPS software. I wanted a program that was kinda like a all in one. One GPS program to do it all. I've tried quite a few and settled on the Garmin XT. It does pretty much everything for mobile Gps. As for Geocaching or "on foot" GPS, I use Tracky.
Now with this in mind, I was noticing some of the things I've seen other people talk about. Jump Starting the GPS. Very critical, especially with garmin. So I decided to give that Astrolauncher program a shot. For Garmin, it works like a champ. Only problem I find is with the Time. The first thing I noticed was the garmin part switched to night mode in the middle of the day time. Didn't think much about it. I closed the program out and later on noticed the time was WAYYY off on the phone. Only way to fix it is to restart the phone. I can't seem to narrow the problem down. Is this a program that is being initiated with Astrolauncher? Or is it a problem with the Garmin GPS? Does anyone else notice this? When it does happen, if I restart the phone, then restart Garmin, it is fine. But it seems like its the initial startup where it happens.
Any ideas?
Just for info, I will do a review on my findings for all my GPS software I've played with.
Thanks for the ideas in advance.
Chem
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Garmin does that to me only if I do not prime the GPS enough. I have been using GPS Test 1.04 because I am too lazy to find something better. I find if I wait long enough for it to find the first satellite, I don't have an issue with Garmin. If I launch GPS Test then immediately launch Garmin, I get the time zone change. I was going to try astrolauncher (that's why I'm reading this thread), but apparently I shouldn't bother... On to find something else.

How well does your GPS work?

Just surveying how well the GPS on the Touch works for most people. It seem as though many people still have problems, even after the carrier updates and all the hacking done here. I personally could never get the GPS working consistently without using Alltel Navigator, which cost $10 a month.

My current theory is that the phone's radio injects noise into the GPS receiver, either because it shares an antenna with the phone, or for the same reason why a powerful radio signal (like driving past a transmitter tower) can overwhelm the front end of receivers that aren't even near the transmitter's frequency.
Evidence: If I launch Google Maps when I'm offline, and I can select "Use GPS" and avoid having Google Maps try to go online before it acquires at least 3 GPS satellites, it seems to lock on within a minute or so about 90% of the time.
If anything causes the phone to go online before I've acquired GPS, it almost never seems to succeed.
If I take/make a voice call, or engage in sustained data transfer, it almost always seems to lose the GPS signal.
If I pan/scroll the map and cause Google Maps to need a BIG chunk of data, it will probably lose the GPS signal.
I'd be interested to hear whether anyone else has noticed a similar inverse correlation between RF activity and GPS acquisition.

Hmmm, I haven't noticed any correlation between data and location, it's an interesting theory though. It takes me anywhere from a minute to 15 seconds to get a lock, and when occasionally satellite signal drops out, Google maps finds it again within 10 seconds or less. I'm a verizon user, btw, and I use GMaps, Live, and TomTOm7+GpsViewer.

Mine works great -
Mine works great - I have Garmin XT for turn-by-turn and it seems to find satellites pretty fast - The other day I decided to try a little experiment and I set up both my Sony GPS and my Touch and pressed "go" at the same time and the Touch GPS was just a fraction of a second behind the Sony (both from a cold start), which I think is pretty good - I have no problem using Windows Live, but for some reason the most recent Google Maps doesn't work as well, it can take forever (seemingly) to lock.

baud rate
after doing a little more
research, i found a post
suggesting to use the
57600 baud rate in google
maps. it worked and i got
a lock within about a minute
sorry bought the english
im typing on my phone here
at work.

my 6800 locks consistanly with in 15 seconds. Just bought the wife a 6900 and its been taking about 1-2 minutes. Not sure why that is.

i had a lot of trouple with my gps being inconsistent and what not. this post on ppc geeks fixed the problem now i connect 6-11 satsellites in 30 seconds or less. duno if it'll help u but u can try it:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=36377&highlight=shadow-tech+agps
not taking any credit for that guide it was pmed to me im pretty sure all acknowledgements are made within the post itself.

Use this to get your GPS working well...
My GPS works excellently with Google maps, as well as with iGO8. I can lock into about 8 sats in 15 seconds or so using the AstroGPSLauncher that AstronusX created and posted at this thread.
Took me just a couple of minutes to create the shortcut and put it in my program list.
I might lose satellites in iGO8 if I get a phone call and take it, but it will get back the sats after a minute or two once the phone call has completed.
Hope this helps.
Steve

Carrick1973 said:
My GPS works excellently with Google maps, as well as with iGO8. I can lock into about 8 sats in 15 seconds or so using the AstroGPSLauncher that AstronusX created and posted at this thread.
Took me just a couple of minutes to create the shortcut and put it in my program list.
I might lose satellites in iGO8 if I get a phone call and take it, but it will get back the sats after a minute or two once the phone call has completed.
Hope this helps.
Steve
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Do you have M2D plugin?
I have NFSFAN Rom and Igo8 is really pain. If you switch to Today or just phone - there is no way to get IGo back. Have to Reset.

Yes, I've been running iGo8 on NSFFAN's 1.08 ROM. I agree that it dogs down damn bad when I get a call while running iGo, but I can get it back up without having to reset if there isn't anything else running. It does take quite awhile to get sat locks back though after switching over to phone. It might be quicker to close out of iGo and restart.

Thanks for all the helpful post guys, that 57600 baud rate didn`t last to long. It was just as inconsistant as anything else I tried. I`ve heard about the Shadow Tech`s Fix for a while now but never tried it till last night. I am having some trouble with the dialing ##3424 step. I`ve tried the different 3424 numbers, and using task manager to open Dmrouter.exe under /DIAG parameters. Nothing happens on my phone, and I don`t see HTC Diag in Device Manager on XP. I have another post on the Shadow Tech Fix thread, but if anybody here knows what I`m doing wrong I`d appreciate a little info.

BTW I`m using NFSfans alltel 1.02 rom

pknyo said:
Thanks for all the helpful post guys, that 57600 baud rate didn`t last to long. It was just as inconsistant as anything else I tried. I`ve heard about the Shadow Tech`s Fix for a while now but never tried it till last night. I am having some trouble with the dialing ##3424 step. I`ve tried the different 3424 numbers, and using task manager to open Dmrouter.exe under /DIAG parameters. Nothing happens on my phone, and I don`t see HTC Diag in Device Manager on XP. I have another post on the Shadow Tech Fix thread, but if anybody here knows what I`m doing wrong I`d appreciate a little info.
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If you go into windows and execute Dmrouter.exe it should, it may not change anything on your screen. Easy way to tell is if you have an activesync connection, execute it, and if activesync disconnects then your in it. Another way is to check task manager, and see if it is running.
There was a problem with the driver for the Vogue in WModem. I found a thread with the fix:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=462712

Valahalla? I know it has to do with GPS just wondering what it is

Phone shows up as Palm treo modem
I got dmrouter.exe working, but in vista it shows up as palm treo modem after drivers are found and installed. I`ll try again in XP and see if it happens again.

Wow I finally got this to work (Shadow Techs Fix)
It took about a day and a half, but I finally got it!
1.) I flashed back to Official Alltel 6.1 Rom and skipped customizations.
2.) I followed the steps in this thread http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=36377&highlight=shadow-tech+agps
3.) Reflashed back NFSFAN`s 1.02 Rom. I then tested it out and 10 seconds later I had 8 satellites locked on me.
Thanks to everybody who helped me out here with your posts. I started this thread as just a kinda survey to find out if I was not alone in having so much difficulty making my phone work as it should, and ended up a very happy Touch owner.

on alltel
it almost never works. shadow-tech's fix helps immensely

im in dominican republic
and i never manage to get a gps signal.
=/ is it me or the phone?
or the fact that this island is worst then the one in LOST

I checked the accuracy of the GPS on my phone about a year ago- Sometimes I work with surveyors, so we matched my vogue against a survey grade GPS to determine how off it was- My phone was +/- 3 feet (1m) in latititude and +/- 10 feet (3m) in longitude. I think that's pretty damn good. This was in a refinery in NJ, USA, with lots of big steel tanks around.
First I was using gps toggle, now I'm running NSFANs 6.5 v8 with gps viewer. I never have trouble getting a lock after about a minute of warming up.

Concerning the Shadow tech fix some of you guys have used here : http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=36377&highlight=shadow-tech+agps
I was wondering if this fix has already been incorporated into all the cooked ROMs for the Vogue that have come out since March '09?

GPS suddenly Not working, in any application,

hi, i have had an unusual issue in that the GPS on the device does not work any more, it did before around 2 weeks ago when i used google maps with the compass working as well.
i have tried soft resets and to check the com ports (i am unsure of the defaults for com port, is it 0?) and have tried to set them manually and also to allow the device to automatically set them. The digital compass has allways been working.
i have installed a fue gps applications recently, since i last used the gps successfully, and have noticed the gps not working in any of these and then not working in the pre-installed applications;
(installed in descending order)
-iGO 8
-GPS sport computer
-wifi fo fum 2
-GPS speedo
-hd speedo
-gps cycle computer
i have uninstalled these since and the GPS still is not being picked up in the digital compass application and google maps (both the preinstalled apps on the original ROM out the box, and were working with gps around 2 weeks back).
i have made sure i am always in clear sight of the sky, but no prevail their.
if some one could please help me on what to do to regain the functionality of the gps again, i would be great full.
p.s. has anyone else had this issue or a similar one?

Try downloading something with setelite tracker. GCZII is such application (good for geocaching btw).
Sometimes, the GPS has wrong satellite data. You will see (on the satellite tracker) it can receive some signal, but the satellites will not show above you, but let's say all to the north.
Go to start/tools and run QickGPS and download new data. That should help. It will download current data via internet. But it may help not. Sometimes bad data on these servers are the source of the problem.
So next thing you can try is use file explorer and go to Temp folder. There is file xtra.bin. That's where the data are stored. Try to remove it and soft reset. Try running your GPS without the file. It will take some time to fix (up to 5 minutes), but it should work.
If that does not help, QuickGPS will get the file back. I had problems like this on X1 .. usually something helped, either refreshing, or removing the file. On HD2 I needed it once, and refreshing the data using QuickGPS helped.

I'd suggest to try htc's own gpstool and see if you get anything at all on com4. search the forum for htc debug tools, the exe is in that package. And...disable quickgps and delete xtra.bin from \temp

Nice application .. I was looking for something like that ! Thanks !

thanks for the replies.
sofar i tried the qgps file removal with out success.
i have aso found something else out thats concerning, thats in igo 8 when i run a auto detect scan for gps device it come back saying their is no gps device.
it also seems to be the case when i ran gczll and the htc-gps-tool.
so i think that the gps driver? or device is the root of the issue?
hope this helps with the suggestions on how to resolve the issue?
Thanks for the helping again.

Aslo check settings/external gps.
First tab (programs) should be: COM4
Second tab (Hardware) should be: None, and 4800 (or anything I guess).
Third tab (Access) should be: Yes, manage GPS automatically

Dr.Sid said:
Nice application .. I was looking for something like that ! Thanks !
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You're welcome ;-)
Have you installed any "tweakers" like BsB Tweaks, HD2Tweaks or similar? Have you messed around in the registry with drivers and such? I assume you didnt see any gpsdata at all on port com4 using the htcgpstool, what exactly happened when you opened com4?
Imho, if the above post by Sid doesn't do the trick, the easiest way out is probably a hardreset.
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what rom are you on, stock or custom, and have you never been able to use the gps or did this happen after a while, perhaps after you installed an app or something?

its stock rom, i havent ventured into cooked roms yet. (reading into it, getting a understanding of it all over last 2-3 days)
haven't messed around with the registy of bsb and dont have htctweaks (not sure on how to do that yet)
nothing happens when i run the htcgpstools, on com 4, same as it does nothing on any other application. it just continues to look (for a long time) or says no gps (like in igo 8).
im thinking that hard reset my be the best option as well.
could something have happened to the radio and broken down the communications of the gps device? (im not a expert, just a theory?)
and just on a cooked rom question.
i wanted a rom that has copilot removed and the full ram enabled, and just to include the performance update drivers (i have adk 1 runtime atm that improves the jitteriness) and other updates that hot fixes have done. but i want to keep stuff like animated weather etc.
from what i have seen it looks like dutty is the man for this type of rom?
could you recommend a cooked rom for a first timer/noobie?
Thanks.

I had a similer problem on my Touch Diamond.
Try switching off.... take the battery out for 1 hour, reinsert battery then turn on. I think that the GPS locked up.
Good luck

steveianson said:
I had a similer problem on my Touch Diamond.
Try switching off.... take the battery out for 1 hour, reinsert battery then turn on. I think that the GPS locked up.
Good luck
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Hmm, you might be right. I still believe your best shot is a HR...

OK well did a hard reset and that has done the trick.
The GPS works and locks with in 10seconds from my window so working brilliant again.
Thanks for all the suggestions and the time taken to help out.