Completely Newbie and Beginners Questions (Wizard) - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General

Hi all
I have recently bought a UK MDA Vario, and then I found this site. I have spent the whole weekend reading posts on this website and find it very interesting what we can actually do with our devices. Everyone here seems to have in-depth knowledge of this device and it's programming structure. This is my first HTC device and I have some very basic questions which I'm not sure if anyone here is bothered to answer (or point me a link where I can find the answers).
I can understand SIM-unlock, but...
(1) what is CID unlock (in fact what is "CID" and "SuperCID")?
(2) What is Bootloader?
(3) What is ROM? (is it equivalent to the "Windows OS" we install on PC?)
(4) What is Extended ROM, and what is usually placed in here as opposed to ROM?
(5) Can we just use any ROM on any variation of Wizard, and work?
(6) What is RAPI?
Thanks for your patience, guys.
Tones

Hi guys
So will you help out a beginner pls?
Thanks
Tones

toneslee: may I be so bold as to direct you towards the Hitchkikers Guide to HTC Phones, so to speak, the Wiki, top left of your browser or here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com
It won't answer all of your questions, but it'll help.
We're all newbies from a certain point of view, and a lot of gestalt knowledge goes into the Wiki. Have a look through there, have a hunt around on the board, and any questions or answers that need clarifying, elucidate here. We'll be glad to help as far as we can I'm sure
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toneslee said:
I can understand SIM-unlock, but...
(1) what is CID unlock (in fact what is "CID" and "SuperCID")?
(2) What is Bootloader?
(3) What is ROM? (is it equivalent to the "Windows OS" we install on PC?)
(4) What is Extended ROM, and what is usually placed in here as opposed to ROM?
(5) Can we just use any ROM on any variation of Wizard, and work?
(6) What is RAPI?
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Hey dude,
Welcome on the forums.
I will try to answer your questions.
(1) CID = Country ID.
CID unlock will unlock the country ID on your phone so you can install other roms and also other roms with different languages (e.g. if you have a Dutch MDA and want an English rom)
(2) Bootloader for our phone is like the BIOS on a pc
(3) ROM is like an image.
We have 3 different rom types.
* OS Rom - image that includes the Operation System of our phones
* Radio or GSM Rom - rom is for all phones features, GPRS etc
* Extended Rom - this rom includes additional application, customizations etc
(4) Check answer 3
(5) When your phone is CID or SuperCID unlocked you can install any kind of rom of any language or manufacturor
(6) This enables your PC to control the Wizard using USB ActiveSync connection
Maybe there are some others that can correct me or fill me in.

Thanks Panja. This was useful as I am a Newbie too.

Thanks, guys. Appreciate it very much.
Looks like it helped someone else already too... great.
Tones

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K-Jam English ROM

Goodmorning,
I have one MDA VARIO (UK), where can I find the I-mate K-jam ROM Freeware (English Version)?
And it’s very difficult to install this ROM in my MDA VARIO? (I will must first Back Up my old ROM), how becomes this?
I hope to help me...
Thanks
Hello molf48,
In the ftp there is the rom you want (K-JAM_WWE_1010903_106_10110_ship.exe).
For the other questions, i'm sorry i don't know the answer/s.
I hope some1 guru will help.
you don't need to backup your rom unless you plan to revert back to the original rom in the future. This might or might not be needed in case of a problem with your phone and asking for a repair during the warranty period.
The steps you need to take are:
a. READ THIS FORUM and also the WIZARD UPGRADE forum - take 1 hour of your time and read read read... many people have upgraded.
b. Unlock the Vario and also the CID - using the Lokiwiz utility - read before you unlock - read a lot until you understand what to do.
c. Donwload an I-Mate rom and simply install it by double clicking on it... however like always - READ READ READ
Thank you for your questions and for your time,
Where I can find this ROM? I will go to Google and put the FTP (K-JAM_WWE_1010903_106_10110_ship.exe)?
But can you tell after me with simple steps how flash the new K-JAM ROM in my MDA VARIO?
It’s my first PPC and I don’t know how?
Thanks you
I will answer you even though it is clear that you are not reading the forum.
Once you have unlocked your device using the lokiwiz - upgrading is very simple - you just activesync your device (connect it via usb to your computer - while microsoft active sync software is running - make sure you have the latest one), make sure you have enough battery in your device (it;s best to have 90% or more left) and then simply run the I-Mate upgrade file. And... wait ... and follow the instrucitons on screen.
If my explanation is not clear enough then I suggest you read. It's not fair to help people that just simply won't read. I can assure you that all of what I have said above is written in a much clearer way in the fourms.
Good luck and READ.

wiza100

Hi, can anybody help me to find latest ROM for my Wiza100 pocket pc?
It looks exactly like Cingular 8125 but with a little different keyboard layout and sold as vodafone mobile.
I tried to install the ROM from Cingular 8125 and its all work fine except the secondary keys at the flip out keyboard.
If any body could help me I would really appreciate it.
paste this in your browser in phone or pc
ftp://xda:[email protected]
got to wizard
the roms
have fun, i personally like the dopod.
ftp://xda:[email protected]_22113102_021911_DOP_ASIA_WWE_Ship.exe
also make sure you only down roms in your language
wwe- worldwide english
This rom is excellent as well.
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Wizard/Roms/o2/Xda_Minis_Upgrade_v2.21.4.101.exe
also run lokiwiz first...it will unlock your phone.
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Wizard/Unlock/Lokiwiz02b.zip
this links will take you directly to each file. make sure you extract lokiwiz to you desktop prior to running enjoy. By the way trun sCID unlock
by the way they are all the same device
read up
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/
justinstafford said:
paste this in your browser in phone or pc
ftp://xda:[email protected]
got to wizard
the roms
have fun, i personally like the dopod.
ftp://xda:[email protected]_22113102_021911_DOP_ASIA_WWE_Ship.exe
also make sure you only down roms in your language
wwe- worldwide english
This rom is excellent as well.
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Wizard/Roms/o2/Xda_Minis_Upgrade_v2.21.4.101.exe
also run lokiwiz first...it will unlock your phone.
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Wizard/Unlock/Lokiwiz02b.zip
this links will take you directly to each file. make sure you extract lokiwiz to you desktop prior to running enjoy. By the way trun sCID unlock
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i tried the 1st rom u posted here and it dosen't work 2 my wiza100
i think u r wrong
ChIcO*GsM said:
i tried the 1st rom u posted here and it dosen't work 2 my wiza100
i think u r wrong
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Chico,
Justin is correct, the Wiza100 & Wiza200 are all the same with only minor cosmetic differences. I see that you are new here so I'm going to politely suggest that you spend some time reading the forums and searching for the information you seek.
I don't know what the layout of the secondary keys is on your Wiza100 but I have a Cingular 8125 branded Wiza100 and have found that all WWE Roms correctly map my secondary keys. If you search the forum, you will find how to change the mapping of those keys.
You will find that other members here are very willing to help you but their patience is limited by your willingness to read and search the forums before starting a new thread that:
Has a vague title, I would suggest changing the thread title to something more indicative of your issue.
Asks for information that is already covered several time in the forum.
Attacks or insults someone who has a greater knowledge of these devices than you.
Good Luck in your Search for "Symbol Secondary Key Remapping".
(If you didn't get the hint then please don't contact me for more).
BTW, this isn't texting or IMing so if you want to be taken seriously don't type like it is.

SPV M3100 - can I de-orange it?

Hi,
I have just baught a HERMES (SPV M3100). Orange has set it up so I cannot use many websites (googlemaps etc). What do I need to de-orange it?
Also - can I get a new active sync? (the one that came with it doesnt sync contacts and doesnt sync with microsoft outlook).
I think maybe I need to Cook or flash my HERMES?
Sorry that these are basic questions. I have read the Wiki, but am no familiar with al the terms.
appreciate any help or just a pointing in the correct direction
Thanks!
Scot
I can suggest you to search the forum
You can use the search function inserting any of the questions you posted above.
I got an SPV M3100 and I flashed it with various roms.
It's a simple process if you follow ALL the rules.
you can start from this page:
http://www.mrvanx.org/hermes_guide/schap
Following this guide you can unlock your device and flash new roms
I can help you if cannot find what you want here in this forum
You're welcome
unlocking
Thanks for that link Elehicmo,
It is very helpful for me a (complete novice).
So to unlock a device I need to Flash HardSPL which is a modified bootloader ? (have I got these terms correct)?
If I stop after the flash Hard SPL stge will I have the same device as before, unlocked?
Few things I wasnt sure about, after reading the site:
"If your SPL version is 2.10.olipro then you ALREADY HAVE HardSPLv7. You do not need to flash it again."
How do I know if my SPL version is 2.10.olipro?
This step is not mandatory but if your radio version is "1.20.31.10" or below
How do i know if my radio version is "1.20.31.10" or below
Can you give me any suggestions as to whether Full, medium or vanilla version of Dutty WM6 v2 would work the best for me - I do not yet have memory storage but I wouldn't want to miss out on key features of WM6
Many Thanks, appreciate any direction with these questions.
Scot

Need Help With Wizard!!! Pls Read

Hi, I'm going to be getting a SIM unlocked t-mobile MDA soon, and was wondering if I should put a custom ROM on it. I understand I have to CID unlock it first. I'm new the custom ROM thing, but I've been intalling custom homebrew firmwares on my psp all the time, so I know about the risks. People have told me that I shouldn't do it because the mda is desgined for windows mobile 5, and should be left at that, and custom ROMs are very buggy, and freeze a lot. Is this true? and can someone help me to CID unlock my MDA. Also, how can I tell if its a G3 or G4? and what's the difference between them? and there are so many custom ROMS out there, which one is the best? I heard it was the core 2 by xplore, but im not sure. What do you think? Please answer with something! I'm very frustrated right now, THNAKS!!!
In the section called wizard upgrading is a sticky by Dr. P...in it it explains how to unlock your device. Read it, then read it again, follow the directions explicitly.
As for rom...I have a Tmo MDA running a WM6 custon rom...Jaguar 3.1
Each rom is different, it depends on what you want in a rom. If you want bells and whistles go with a TNT rom. If you want a zero calorie rom go with a Core rom and customize as you need by installing 3rd party apps. If you want something in between, go with Jaguar or a Faria...there are so many amazing chef's at work here at xda, that in truth, you just gotta try each kitchen out until you find the one that meets your tastes. Be warned...you may turn into a flashing junkie and need to join the xda 12-step program!!!
Ok, thanks. You've helped me a lot. I think ill go with the faria or jaguar, I like the sound of them, but ill look up more info on them first. Thanks again.
waleed786 said:
Hi, I'm going to be getting a SIM unlocked t-mobile MDA soon, and was wondering if I should put a custom ROM on it. I understand I have to CID unlock it first. I'm new the custom ROM thing, but I've been intalling custom homebrew firmwares on my psp all the time, so I know about the risks. People have told me that I shouldn't do it because the mda is desgined for windows mobile 5, and should be left at that, and custom ROMs are very buggy, and freeze a lot. Is this true? and can someone help me to CID unlock my MDA. Also, how can I tell if its a G3 or G4? and what's the difference between them? and there are so many custom ROMS out there, which one is the best? I heard it was the core 2 by xplore, but im not sure. What do you think? Please answer with something! I'm very frustrated right now, THNAKS!!!
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It all depends on your taste...i always like to cook my own ROM...pick the one you like, dump and add packages you like and enjoy...but READ (I mean READ...) wiki and stickies before you flash...dont just flash anything and brick your device...
PS: Stick with OS version ending .318 for better wifi connections
Ok, thanks. I should be getting my MDA tomorrow (thursday) so Ill probably start installing custom ROM's on friday, because I want to get to know the MDA a little bit before I install customs ROM's. Also, how can I check if it's a G3 or G4? I know it has something to do with the numbers that show up when the device is turned on, but I'm not sure, can anyone help? Also, hat do u mean "add packages" can I customize my custom ROM however I want? I can add whatever apps I want on the ROM? Also, are all custom ROM's windows mobile 6? are there such things as windows mobile 5 custom ROM's? its not that I want it, just curious. Is there a such thing as jaguar.318? (you said .318 has better wifi)
waleed786 said:
Ok, thanks. I should be getting my MDA tomorrow (thursday) so Ill probably start installing custom ROM's on friday, because I want to get to know the MDA a little bit before I install customs ROM's. Also, how can I check if it's a G3 or G4? I know it has something to do with the numbers that show up when the device is turned on, but I'm not sure, can anyone help? Also, hat do u mean "add packages" can I customize my custom ROM however I want? I can add whatever apps I want on the ROM? Also, are all custom ROM's windows mobile 6? are there such things as windows mobile 5 custom ROM's? its not that I want it, just curious. Is there a such thing as jaguar.318? (you said .318 has better wifi)
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All you need is in here http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Wizard. Jaguar is .318 OS, if you flash that you should be good to go...read wiki before you do anything with your MDA. Good luck.
waleed786 said:
Hi, I'm going to be getting a SIM unlocked t-mobile MDA soon, and was wondering if I should put a custom ROM on it. I understand I have to CID unlock it first. I'm new the custom ROM thing, but I've been intalling custom homebrew firmwares on my psp all the time, so I know about the risks. People have told me that I shouldn't do it because the mda is desgined for windows mobile 5, and should be left at that, and custom ROMs are very buggy, and freeze a lot. Is this true? and can someone help me to CID unlock my MDA. Also, how can I tell if its a G3 or G4? and what's the difference between them? and there are so many custom ROMS out there, which one is the best? I heard it was the core 2 by xplore, but im not sure. What do you think? Please answer with something! I'm very frustrated right now, THNAKS!!!
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Hmmm, Take my advise,as you are getting a new device,it wud probably will be with wm5 T-Mobile Rom.why don't you just use it for sometimes,enjoy the new device,get to know all the features and applications and really get to know your device and when you are fully comfortable then go for an upgrade to wm6 version Rom. In the meanwhile, READ 'n' READ all about CID unlocking and upgrading,so that when you are actually going to do it,you have the whole procedure done successfully and effortless
Secondly, it's very very important to know the correct DOC chip version on your device ( G3 or G4) cuz both the devices have all together different method for upgrading,if you do a G3 method to unlock or upgrade to a G4 device,it'll "Brick" the phone,so first determine the version of the device. Download the WST Tool and install,run it and check the report it generates to verify the DOC chip version,whether it's a G3 or G4 device.
Good luck
Yeah, your right, I got my MDA yesterday, and I'm pretty happy with wm5 right now. Ill put a custom ROM on later, no point in risking a birck already, but I still want to CID unlock it now, so I don't have to do it later. Thanks for your advice. I found a lot of things to on the net make a wm5 look like wm6, i got a theme, and media player skin. Do you know any other ways I can make my wm5 look like wm6? Icons? buttons? sounds? is there anything like this on this website? i'm going to check anyways.
Search in the xda wizard forums. A while back someone posted WM^ themes, ringtones, icons etc...if it isn't in the wizard section, then I saw it in the general topics section. Sorry I cannot remember which, but I DO remember seeing it posted here at xda, so just search WM6 themes.
What do you guys think of this rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310864 is it a .318? does it have good wifi? please give me a short review or something
waleed786 said:
What do you guys think of this rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310864 is it a .318? does it have good wifi? please give me a short review or something
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Well,this one is an old cooked Rom on an older Base Rom,there are at present many latest cooked custom Roms on newer Base Roms,I'll suggest you to consider those,it wud be more beneficial and enjoyable with better and advanced features.Like TNT 1437,TNT 1933,NBD 9.2,they all are excellent build Roms.
You can check out all the latest wm6 Roms on 'Wizard Mobile 6' forum
ok thanks, also i used the lokiwiz program to CID unlock wizard, but I am not sure if it worked, is there any way to tell if my mda is really CID unlocked??? Also, can I upgrade the ROM witgh Vitsa? it didnt work, then I tried the activesync driver, I found the instructions on this website, bit it still didn't work, i followed all directions, and tried 10 times. I try to update, but right when it says verifying device info, i get the message "ROMupdateutility MFC Application has stopped working" PLEASE HELP, ANYONE.....
waleed786 said:
ok thanks, also i used the lokiwiz program to CID unlock wizard, but I am not sure if it worked, is there any way to tell if my mda is really CID unlocked??? Also, can I upgrade the ROM witgh Vitsa? it didnt work, then I tried the activesync driver, I found the instructions on this website, bit it still didn't work, i followed all directions, and tried 10 times. I try to update, but right when it says verifying device info, i get the message "ROMupdateutility MFC Application has stopped working" PLEASE HELP, ANYONE.....
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To verify the CID lock/unlock status,download the WST tool and run,check the button "CID Action" written on it,this will give the report to verify if you device is CID locked or unlocked.
Secondly,don't use Win Vista as it has many problems yet.Flashing is always easy and recommended with WinXP SP2,ok
Cheers
zabardast_1 said:
Well,this one is an old cooked Rom on an older Base Rom,there are at present many latest cooked custom Roms on newer Base Roms,I'll suggest you to consider those,it wud be more beneficial and enjoyable with better and advanced features.Like TNT 1437,TNT 1933,NBD 9.2,they all are excellent build Roms.
You can check out all the latest wm6 Roms on 'Wizard Mobile 6' forum
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Not always an old OS is bad
Maybe you'd like to give my ROM a go
ok thanks for all your help. I guess ill have to go to the library to put a custom ROM on, the have xp there. What is your ROM? Can you tell me more about it?
ok thanks for all ur help. I go to the library to out a ROM on it, they have xp there. What is you ROM dferreira? can you tell me more about it? is it wm6,? is it the one in your signature? I kind of like that one, even though its not wm6, you have a good reason of keeping it at wm5. Another thing is can I use shelltool to put a custom ROM on my mda? does it work with every ROM? if it does, why doesn't everyone use it? what's the use of CID-unlocking it when shelltool is easier and faster? is there a catch?
waleed786 said:
What is you ROM dferreira? can you tell me more about it? is it wm6,? is it the one in your signature? I kind of like that one, even though its not wm6, you have a good reason of keeping it at wm5. Another thing is can I use shelltool to put a custom ROM on my mda? does it work with every ROM? if it does, why doesn't everyone use it? what's the use of CID-unlocking it when shelltool is easier and faster? is there a catch?
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My ROM is WM5, based on the old AKU 2.3 (rev 4 is, rev 5 which is gonna be released soon will be the latest WM5 OS build). You should not use shelltools to change to my ROM, since I've got some fixes/updates done by extendedRom, which shelltools doesn't update! Also, WM5SE is G3/G4 safe, so you can use SoftSPL or HardSPL to flash it so its safe for every Wizard PDA. Why doesn't everyone use it? Its the freedom of choise, everyone is free to use whatever ROM satisfy his/her needs. ShellTools takes about 30 minutes to flash. A CID Unlocked device can be flashed using the official RUU upgrading program, that takes about 6 minutes... also its safer.
Just make sure you have read all the stickies on WIzard Upgrading forums, before ever flashing!
You said you took out windows live, where can I download it if I want to put it back on?
IMPORTANT!!!
one last question, do I need to downgrade my SPL to CID unlock my phone? I have a G3 T-mobile MDA runnig the latest t-mobile 2.26 ROM. How can I downgrade to CID unlock my phone? LET ME KNOW ASAP, I'm in a rush....thanks!
YES !
CID unlocking is only possible through 'lokiwiz02b' Tool and it only works in IPL/SPL 1.xx,so to unlock you'll have to downgrade to IPL/SPL 1.xx.To CID unlock read this Sticky :-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=263116
Good luck

Desperate situation with P735 ROM upgrade - Please help

Hi everybody , i am using an Asus P735 device with a German WM6 Rom installed on it. When trying to upgrade it to an English version 6.0 (since i was unable to find 6.1 for this device, which would definitely be preferable), i receive the following message:
"Cross-language upgrade is not Allowed. Please ensure the upgrade tool language is same as the default language of your device."
The thing is i don't want the "default language of my device". How can i get rid of it?
After lots of searches on the net, including on this forum, i've found no answers and in the few similar cases posted the users were left with no answer.
The Asus language unlock tools is of no help whatsoever on this phone.
Can anybody help me with this device?
The most similar thread on the forum i've discovered is this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=368107
Thank you very much.
AsusP said:
Hi everybody , i am using an Asus P735 device with a German WM6 Rom installed on it. When trying to upgrade it to an English version 6.0 (since i was unable to find 6.1 for this device, which would definitely be preferable), i receive the following message:
"Cross-language upgrade is not Allowed. Please ensure the upgrade tool language is same as the default language of your device."
The thing is i don't want the "default language of my device". How can i get rid of it?
After lots of searches on the net, including on this forum, i've found no answers and in the few similar cases posted the users were left with no answer.
The Asus language unlock tools is of no help whatsoever on this phone.
Can anybody help me with this device?
The most similar thread on the forum i've discovered is this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=368107
Thank you very much.
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for desktop PCs ! if you have by example W7 in French and want to put it in English - I mean to get English package by update- this will not work if you have an OEM license -this is not allowed!
so is that with OEMs if you want to keep license !
for your PDA you must find an unofficial English ROM only! also a way to write it to the phone BUT for this to work DO NOT use Active Sync!
I can't give you more details because don't have a PDA like yours but this problem is interesting
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AsusP said:
Hi everybody , i am using an Asus P735 device with a German WM6 Rom installed on it. When trying to upgrade it to an English version 6.0 (since i was unable to find 6.1 for this device, which would definitely be preferable), i receive the following message:
"Cross-language upgrade is not Allowed. Please ensure the upgrade tool language is same as the default language of your device."
The thing is i don't want the "default language of my device". How can i get rid of it?
After lots of searches on the net, including on this forum, i've found no answers and in the few similar cases posted the users were left with no answer.
The Asus language unlock tools is of no help whatsoever on this phone.
Can anybody help me with this device?
The most similar thread on the forum i've discovered is this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=368107
Thank you very much.
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try a way to write firmware without Active Sync read this post to see you need some way like that
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-378907.html
ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/IA/P735 doesn't works more you have to find somewere a firmware in English as I see no longer Asus support they say this is deprecated sorry to hear that
Hi Ruscan and thank you for your interest in this topic, being the first person to react at all to this problem that has been left unsolved for many years, despite many other people posting about it earlier and who were left with neither solution nor answer/evidence of interest from the side of the developers. I do also think this is an interesting issue that could become even more actual in the future.
So far i was unable to find ANY unoffocial ROM for the P735. I do have the official one (Malaysia) in English though, from Asus's website, yet i do not know how to hack it and eventually install it. Furthermore, i was wondering whether an P750 or P535 ROM could work on a P735 with few modifications, cause the 735 is hardware-wise somewhere between the two.
I am ready to take the time to write the firmware myself yet i have no experience at all in that neither i know from where to start. If to write a new firware then it would be good to finally produce a WM6.1 version for this PDA, instead of the existing 6.0. How to do that, any idea?
Thank you for your explanation and for making this non-sense situation a little bit more clear.
PS: Also, i've read somewhere that the device won't turn-on anymore if upgraded to a different language, does that apply to an update via SD-card as well?
PS2: Installing the Android system on this device would be an option?
..i wonder what would ASUS.UnlockLangID.exe do with your problem..
what's this all about:
p525 had similar problem, that could result in NOT real bricking of device after flash(wrong languague version after reset - device seem to be locked on bootloader then). when tool is used before flash, custom lang roms are working properly(interesting then, what this tool does, btw, as it is launched from WM - so, it may be microflasher, or sth like that).
now...i have strong feeling, that warnings you read about flashing different lang rom, may be related to this ridiculous, small, problem.
issue is, that i do not know, if ASUS.UnlockLangID.exe may help with p735, OR if there's version made for p735.
update: i read this again, slowly:
"Cross-language upgrade is not allowed. Please ensure the upgrade tool language is same as the default language of your device."
...they tell you about upgrade TOOL, not rom.
hmmm, so.. what, if you use tool in languague of...ROM?
maybe unlocklangid code is inside flasher, so using proper updater with proper rom is simple solution?
on the other hand - i am making roms for asuses for years, and i never used default flash method - vide usbloader method(and force mode from BL).
i am not going to encourage you to go this way of thinking, but...
AsusP said:
Hi Ruscan and thank you for your interest in this topic, being the first person to react at all to this problem that has been left unsolved for many years, despite many other people posting about it earlier and who were left with neither solution nor answer/evidence of interest from the side of the developers. I do also think this is an interesting issue that could become even more actual in the future.
So far i was unable to find ANY unoffocial ROM for the P735. I do have the official one (Malaysia) in English though, from Asus's website, yet i do not know how to hack it and eventually install it. Furthermore, i was wondering whether an P750 or P535 ROM could work on a P735 with few modifications, cause the 735 is hardware-wise somewhere between the two.
I am ready to take the time to write the firmware myself yet i have no experience at all in that neither i know from where to start. If to write a new firware then it would be good to finally produce a WM6.1 version for this PDA, instead of the existing 6.0. How to do that, any idea?
Thank you for your explanation and for making this non-sense situation a little bit more clear.
PS: Also, i've read somewhere that the device won't turn-on anymore if upgraded to a different language, does that apply to an update via SD-card as well?
PS2: Installing the Android system on this device would be an option?
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sorry this is just to test my signature will be back but I do not think Android is an option for your phone it is all about technical specs to port Android on that phone and only Asus will have that
by example I know about a project named Andromnia this is how to use Android on Omnia-WM phone
nice try!! but believe me this is about reverse engineering and does not works for now- no gps/gprs/wifi signal and Android crashes
funny, that andromnia showed me, asus user, that android could be real for REAL PDA's.
andromnia works on p750 when proper kernel is used,
EOT/
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funny, that andromnia showed me, asus user, that android could be real for REAL PDA's.
andromnia works on p750 when proper kernel is used, so i found ridiculous whining of ..omnia user here. where were users of omnia, when andoid on that device WAS real?
Now, go and focking buy android bs, you ignored andromnia maker for months, do not whine now.
well, HTC killed everything.
btw, is author of topic here?
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tell me, what exactly are you trying to use to flash, abi file, exe file, what is it?
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You can extract ABI file and flash you device through SD card
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sooo..it seems, that updater BUG is reason, not roms itself here.
funny is, that rom cooking for this machine is quite real, if tools i can see are working.
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upd: ok, so, if i see it right, all you need is to:
fully charge battery,
extact exe, get abi,
copy abi to empty sd card(NOT SHDC!),
go to bootloader(hard to say how - try dpad right + soft reset) and
wait.
when update's done, do hard reset.
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of course, i cannot say at this moment, if whole process is safe, it works fine with zinc device(that seem to have identical flash procedures and SAME cross-lang error when manufacturer way of flashing is used(exe)).
i will try to get more info from my mate asap. cross your fingers, and wait a bit.
here's tool you may try to get abi file from original asus updater EXE file:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=368401
if it's not working, there's another one, maybe more universal,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=511158
btw, are you from Pakistan?
Thanks all of you for your input.
1 - There is NO AsusUnlockLangID.exe for Asus P735 - do not know why.
The one from P535 or P525 is useless on this phone.
2 - Great point about "same-upgrade-tool-language-possibility" yet the official ROM comes in an .exe file that i do not know how to unpack/hack in order to insert the correct ROM or vice-versa.
Could you provide me with some insight for that?
3 - Besides that, do you think a tweaked P750 ROM could work on this phone, or a hybrid P535/735? Wouldn't that be the best/easiest solution, which would in the same way finally create a more advanced ROM for this quite neglected device? The older P535 has even 6.5 ROMs whereas P735 is limited to the basic 6.0. (Does that have any advantage by the way?)
4 - I am open to any way of flashing, given it provides the right result so all your advices are welcome.
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@Pupakota
Ok, thank you, i've just read your last answer. I'm gonna try the tool you're talking about and inform you of the result.
PS: No, i'm not from Pakistan though i love the country, are you from there?
PS2: Any way to port the 6.1 version to P735, to kill two flies in one shot ?
3 - Besides that, do you think a tweaked P750 ROM could work on this phone, or a hybrid P535/735? Wouldn't that be the best/easiest solution, which would in the same way finally create a more advanced ROM for this quite neglected device? The older P535 has even 6.5 ROMs whereas P735 is limited to the basic 6.0. (Does that have any advantage by the way?)
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PS2: Any way to port the 6.1 version to P735, to kill two flies in one shot ?
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p750 is different pair of shoes, nothing would be useful in this case. do not try any roms made for different devices(trivia, i know).
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i dare to say, that any rom is possible for 735... while searching info, people made every possible build, including 6.5's...ALL chinese :E
rom from exe is exctractable, then fully dumpable, packages are clean and good...
btw, that ABI file is just a renamed rom.bin...
while Activesync method of EXE flashing is wrong, only way of avoiding problem is using SD card flash method then by using that pseudo "abi" file.
dpad to right + softreset should start flash procedure. if not, it may be some key on the right side of the device + soft reset(hard to understand translated chinese...).
but before you decide to try...
could you, AsusP, make photo of bootloader mode?
and please, post link of exe file you were trying to flash, i need it(i mean this english one). for some reason dumped rom from "WWE" version seem to be...hebrew... i really would extract real english rom.
now, only problem is, that besides of one case i did not see any clear information, if sd flash with languague change is safe.
one person wrote it is.
Hi, i'll get back to you ASAP regarding other questions, in the meanwhile here is the link of the firmware in question (that i'm trying to use) :
http://support.asus.com/Download.as...e=P735_FUU_Malaysia.zip#P735_FUU_Malaysia.zip
yup, this one seems to be exactly like one i tried to extract, indeed, it's wwe.
damn, it's OLD
it seems, that cooking custom roms is possible for this device without special problems. new 6.1 or 6.5 should work MUCH faster, than your actual one, or that wwe from asus...
try to make photo of bootloader, and tell me, which version of 735 do you have, 64 mb or 128 mb of ram?
ahh and one last question: do you have original updater with german version of rom, that you CAN flash(i mean, that you have now, in your device)? it may be neccesary, if you ever dare to make further experiments.
"try to make photo of bootloader, and tell me, which version of 735 do you have, 64 mb or 128 mb of ram?"
It is 64MB RAM, same as all Asus P7XX devices i guess, if not upgraded (mine is not).
Sorry, but how do you make photos of the bootloader? Do you mean the update tool?
"ahh and one last question: do you have original updater with german version of rom, that you CAN flash(i mean, that you have now, in your device)? it may be neccesary, if you ever dare to make further experiments."
I have it in the device yes but i don't have the program/CD if that's what you mean. It could be downloaded though from Asus i think...
PS: WWE stands for...?
Sorry, but how do you make photos of the bootloader?
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Bootloader mode flash(with unpacked from exe rom image on sd card) seem to be Only way to update your device.
I am trying to determine risk linked to this method, so i need photo of LOOK of bootloader mode.
You may enter BL mode by pressing dpad RIGHT and making soft reset, if i am right.
then something should appear, and this is what i want you to photograph it for me(with..camera).
of COURSE, do not put abi image on sd card YET, otherwise you start to update, and we do NOT know yet, if you brick your machine or not.
so, at this moment i just ant to see hot it look like, without flashing, if its typical 525/750 bootloader, not some weird thing, i'd assume, that abi file flashing should not brick machine.
sorry or enigmatic words, cannot explain this easier way.
It is 64MB RAM, same as all Asus P7XX devices i guess, if not upgraded (mine is not).
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..so not all 735's have 64 mb ram, i'd say, ok?
look, i do not know nothing about your knowledge level, many users of 750's with 128 mb ram are using 64 mb version of roms(typical noob would have no idea to try any different), this is why i mentioned it...
btw, besides using GanFan-ZincROMXtractor's easier way of obtaining rom file from exe is just using restorator, reshack, or similar tool to extract rom at res 152.
result is identical as using zincromextractor, though name of file must be set manually - it is Mars_G4.abi (though, it is not..real abi file, but it doesn't matter).
WWE stands for...?
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english rom...
what exactly are you trying to use to flash, abi file, exe file, what is it?
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what exactly are you trying to use to flash, abi file, exe file, what is it?
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hey, do you have account on one of chinese pda sites?
could you download and post here any 735 kitchen for me, sir?
i'd like to have a look onto it, but for some reason i am not able to register.
WWE World Wide English - got it.
Pupakota thanks a lot for your efforts, i've had a busy schedule these days, i'll paste you all the info soon.
My knowledge level is basic yet i have some experience of programing from before and i'm very keen to learn about this, more than just using the system.

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