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While phone is in use, I wanna be able to press # keypad

Howdy folks.
First post. Came here looking for info on WM5 upgrade for my Magician. I'll leave well enough alone after reading the threads so far. (other than, say for example I "found" :twisted: an installer on the net, if I installed it would it bork my magician?) Does the active sync "full backup" actually back up everything including the OS?))
What I'm posting about though, is there a hack or program that will allow me while I'm making a call to use the directional pad to highlight and press the keypad without resorting to the stylus?
The reason is when I call voicemail or any number that requires me to press an extra number for an extension i have to get the stylus out to press the number. If I could use the pad that would be really nice.
Thanks

just press the green call key and it brings the keypad up and you can use that... and no, the activesync back up doesn't back up the os thats on your rom

Er. I think I might have been unclear. Apologies.
I know how to bring up the keypad to dial numbers.
What I mean is when i'm on a call, I want to be able to dial 3 for example without having to use the stylus on the screen to press the 3 on the keypad. Ideally using the nav buttons to highlight the number and the centre button to press that number.
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Thanks for the info regarding backup. Might wait till theres a specific WM5 installer for my handset then.

I don't think that what you want to do can be done.
You can prod the screen with your fingers as well as the stylus. :wink:

Oh well. That would of been a really simple way to improve the phones usablity. I try to keep my greasy fingers off the screen wherever possible. :roll:

I can think of a possible way to hack this in, but is there much "call" for it?
It seems like a bit of a specialised need.
V

if your worried about your screen i highly recommend pocket pc techs screen protectors. i ordered them off expansys.com and they're the best. i got two and still using the first one. i've tried several other screen protectors before and nothing matches these. http://www.pocketpctechs.com/main~u...ories-WriteSHIELD%99+AG~action~updateunit.htm

To go back on myself, I can see that this might be a useful feature actually, to be able to dial using just the dpad. slow, but on the VGA WM5 at the moment, it might come in handy.
V

Auto KEY lock wanted

What I am looking for is a simple auto key lock, I am not the only one!
S2U2 I have tried and found to be laggy and unstable, essentially it is overkill, as are most auto key lock programs. I want something simple!
When pressing and holding the end key the keypad locks, all i want is a program to do this automatically after a set time delay, without any fancy tricks or graphics - surely this isn't too much to ask?
I am aware that the power button can put the phone to sleep and disable the keys/screen BUT they do not stay disabled if the phone wakes up (when getting a call/message etc.). Only the key lock does this.
As an alternative, does anyone know how to call the key lock software, where is it located in the windows folder? I can try and write something to do this?

I guess you don't want the password to be activated?
If you do want the password then you can easily do this via
Settings--Personal--Lock
and just specify the time before auto-lock happens
Here are a couple of aps that might help:-
LockWithPassword -I have this little app mapped to a shortcut on my today ...so I can instantly lock when needed ... thanks to slow23 right here at XDA
LockAndOff -does what it says on the tin ...again can be set up as a shortcut, and this one locks keys & turns the screen off (with a single click on the shortcut) but does not invoke the password
Got it from here:- link

Thanks jcsxda, LockAndOff is pretty close to what i want, now if it could be set to run after a short period of activity, or on device sleep/wakeup then it would be perfect

Im looking for the same thing.
A simple auto lock just like any other phone...
S2U2 is overkill and can miss up someother app.

it is the same as the device lock today shorcut?
sorry, my phone is in my car and im too lazy

VJDeviceLock can be used to automatically lock your phone when you switch it off (actually, when you switch it on but it amounts to the same thing).
You can assign any app to launch on power on, by using the events management functions built into the OS. Eg Memory Maid will let you run apps on power on etc.
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Thanks Vijay for the great info. shutil.dll is responsible for the device lock on windows mobile when you press the today plugin for locking.
Do you know a command to use this DLL (to put in Memory Maid) ?
Is there a rundll32.exe like on desktops or something

VJ you are a star!
Exactly what I've been looking for. A little fiddly to setup, but shouldn't be a problem for anyone unless they are a total newbie!
Now it's setup it is perfect.
Thank you very much, donation on the way!

@jrg1967
Many thanks for the donation! For various personal reasons, I went cold turkey off XDA Devs for about a year, but I'm really glad to be slowly getting back into it. It's amazing how strong this community is, internationally!
@el_lo:
Although there is an API for enabling the lock, when I tried to implement it when WM5 first came out, for VJDeviceLock, it wasn't well documented, so VJDeviceLock does something else that I can't remember now to enable the lock.
I don't believe that there is a rundll32 type app on Windows Mobile. It wouldn't be hard to make one, but then you'd still be running an external app!
I believe that VJKeyPress can also be used to enable the keylock, and there are other 3rd party apps.
HTC may well have built in some function to enable the lock through ROM based software, but for me, VJDeviceLock serves me well.
V

@VJ, you have the makings of a commercial piece of software there- it is very hard to find a simple program to do this, as the poll bias shows. You just need a user friendly settings program to deal with the command lines and make it easy to use. I am sure it would appeal across the WM community...

yeh would be great for the phone to autolock after a set period of time like other phones. ok the screen turns off after 30seconds but it doesnt lock the keys. seems strange why this feature isnt already on the phone...

Ok, I'll put this out there:
If one was developing a (possibly commercial, but cheap) auto lock app, what features would it need?
VJDeviceLock is a very old app now, but it works fine and it still surprises me that autolocking on power off is not a standard feature, so I always install it. I understand that there is a registry entry on the newer non X1 HTCs that does something similar, but anyway:
What features would you need? First, auto locking after a fixed time.
What else?
In the interest of keeping it simple, don't ask for a slide to unlock replacement, as S2U is already fabulous, if that's your thing.
Also note that if you're interested, I can entirely replace the native unlock screen with a different interface, although again, I don't propose replacing S2U. I mean something more like a HUGE unlock button.
Give me ideas.
I can do gesture based unlocks, accelerometer based locking and unlocking (assuming I can do this on the X1, I don't have one, so someone feel free to give me one and I'll come and give your package a fondle).
Note that I'm busy on other stuff, so anyone else can code this, but for simple-ish features I'm happy to start working on it. Bigger stuff will take time.
It would probably be free because I can't deal with the hassle of getting rich
V

I'm using Auto Lock (CSDEVCTRL) works like a charm
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=386451

Hey Vijay, glad to see you around!

jcsxda said:
I guess you don't want the password to be activated?
If you do want the password then you can easily do this via
Settings--Personal--Lock
and just specify the time before auto-lock happens
Here are a couple of aps that might help:-
LockWithPassword -I have this little app mapped to a shortcut on my today ...so I can instantly lock when needed ... thanks to slow23 right here at XDA
LockAndOff -does what it says on the tin ...again can be set up as a shortcut, and this one locks keys & turns the screen off (with a single click on the shortcut) but does not invoke the password
Got it from here:- link
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thanks..seems like the lock app i was looking for.
X1 is like a mini comp....anyone can mess around with it if u leave it unlocked

Hi VJ,
It's still working great! Don't make this over complicated, as you can see from the poll people want a simple solution. Now I have it setup it's working just as needed, the standard unlock screen is fine, but the setup was a pain! So, IMHO all that is required is a simple front-end allowing to choose the options, rather than having to enter a command line. More complicated solutions to this issue are already available, so keep it simple.
Options for keylock/password lock at sleep and/or after a set time interval is probably all that is required.

BTW, X1 does NOT have accelerometer.

just having the regular keylock automatically come on after x amount of seconds would do me. no fancy screensavers, passwords or swiping the screen or anything like that. i noticed on diamond tweak there was an option for the keylock to come on when the standby kicked in and the screen goes off, doesnt work on the x1 though but that feature would be ideal.

vijay555 said:
Ok, I'll put this out there:
If one was developing a (possibly commercial, but cheap) auto lock app, what features would it need?
VJDeviceLock is a very old app now, but it works fine and it still surprises me that autolocking on power off is not a standard feature, so I always install it. I understand that there is a registry entry on the newer non X1 HTCs that does something similar, but anyway:
What features would you need? First, auto locking after a fixed time.
What else?
In the interest of keeping it simple, don't ask for a slide to unlock replacement, as S2U is already fabulous, if that's your thing.
Also note that if you're interested, I can entirely replace the native unlock screen with a different interface, although again, I don't propose replacing S2U. I mean something more like a HUGE unlock button.
Give me ideas.
I can do gesture based unlocks, accelerometer based locking and unlocking (assuming I can do this on the X1, I don't have one, so someone feel free to give me one and I'll come and give your package a fondle).
Note that I'm busy on other stuff, so anyone else can code this, but for simple-ish features I'm happy to start working on it. Bigger stuff will take time.
It would probably be free because I can't deal with the hassle of getting rich
V
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you can make it very simple.assign lock software to power off button.when you display is off you phone ll be locked.this ll be lovely.thank you

Hi Vijay,
I was also trying to develop a simple autolock program. Because I couldn't find any locking program that can prevent X1BC from capturing the keys. What I need is something that kills X1BC just before locking, and re-launches it after unlocking. Currently, I am able to lock the device and kill X1BC when the display dimms, but detecting the unlock is a problem. Do you have any idea how I can detect the unlock? (My program is using the lock mechanism of QuickMenu and that is using the built-in lock).
Cheers

[REQ] Disable Touch Panel from shortcut

I have tried to make this myself but im not the best at c# I was hoping someone would like to write a small app that disables and enables the touch panel without using the gsensor or light sensor or nav sensor. i want to use this with a mort script so it would launch the app to disable touch panel then run the rest of the script then launch the app to enable it. i don't care if its two separate apps. if someone can help i would appreciate it so much. thanks

This isn't an actual shortcut, its a bit better than that if you ask me.
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-sensorlock.html
Basically you just spin the phone in your hands and it will lock, watch the video, it shows what to do
I've also found an application called sleep, I used that for a while but now I'm on WinMo 6.5 and I just use the lock button instead. Just do a quick google for a program called sleep, shouldn't be too hard to find.
And also there is an inbuilt lock thingie where you can set your phone to lock the screen if you hold down the end call button for like 5 seconds but that one is a bit of a pain cause you gotta hold it for ages before it locks and then when you try to unlock it is hard especially if youre outside with the sun shining.

AdamHC said:
This isn't an actual shortcut, its a bit better than that if you ask me.
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-sensorlock.html
Basically you just spin the phone in your hands and it will lock, watch the video, it shows what to do
I've also found an application called sleep, I used that for a while but now I'm on WinMo 6.5 and I just use the lock button instead. Just do a quick google for a program called sleep, shouldn't be too hard to find.
And also there is an inbuilt lock thingie where you can set your phone to lock the screen if you hold down the end call button for like 5 seconds but that one is a bit of a pain cause you gotta hold it for ages before it locks and then when you try to unlock it is hard especially if youre outside with the sun shining.
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thanks for the response, i have used sensorlock and it is a great app but i want the screen lock so i can run script that involves buttons press while the phone is in my pocket

question about SIP default
i know this may not be the most appropriate thread to put this question on, my apologies. From the title I thought it may be. Anyhow, I installed phm registry editor and am trying to learn to use it, but not sure how to find something im wanting to change. My SIP default seems to be that anytime i open my sms inbox, or email, etc, my keyboard pops up without me selecting it to do so. I want to change it so it only pops up when I select the little tab/icon to MAKE it pop up.
Any help would be greatly appreciated. Much thanks in advance.

How to lock Ans/End key

Usually when a call comes and the phone is inside the pouch (good for protection), there are several ways of messing up by accepting or rejecting the call even b4 its completely out of the pouch as blelow:
On screen:
1) U can press the on screen message but which will send an auto sms to the caller and end the call
2) U can press the answer key
3) U can press the ignore key
Off screen (hardware)
4) U press the answer key
5) U can press the end key
Incredibly, all 5 options are simultaneously active. The screen can be locked by S2U2 etc. but I cannot find any option of locking the hardware keys.
Any help will be appreciated

Firstly thanks for Omnia i8000 support on XDA..
Now I feel secure..
Secondly even I'll lyk to disable my hardware keys for call ans/end..
is there a registry tweak or something we can do to disable it..

s2u2 has that option... go settings/phone and u have S2A Hard ans/end key...

Search 542482 - there's an app for that over in the Mobile Apps & Games forum

Solution found!!!!
The issue was really troubling me and I finally found a solution. Install a small program called Incall lock which locks the call & end key. But that will totally disable u from accepting calls under WM6.1. So install s2u2 and enable screen response and voila!! U have. Both these are available elsewhere in this lovely forum.
Note:- The whole process during inplementation is quite messy as u will first have to install .net compact & samsung SDK software (both freely available).
4 software to do a simple thing which should have been taken care of by the OS. That's life under our billy, the goat.
Hope this help. I would be glad to give something back to this site, i have greatly benefited from.

TouchLockPro works great.
(I can't post a link yet...search for it in the Omnia 2 section at Modaco).

ad720 said:
TouchLockPro works great.
(I can't post a link yet...search for it in the Omnia 2 section at Modaco).
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I tried tpro but it did not work for me. I am using wm6.1 under samsung touchwiz. Cud it b because of that ?

TouchLockPro is the answer, however, if both touch screen and the keys are locked on all in-coming calls, how the hell do you answer the phone? First to unlock it then answer it? A bit troublesome.

captkkk said:
TouchLockPro is the answer, however, if both touch screen and the keys are locked on all in-coming calls, how the hell do you answer the phone? First to unlock it then answer it? A bit troublesome.
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See, even if no software was there u wud have to press a key or tap something to answer anyway. With S2U2 and incall lock, the only point of access is the slider (in my case) with which i can either accept or reject calls. So if i swipe to ans, the lock opens and i can straight away start talking. So there really is no extra step involved. Whereas, if I do not lock the key, I will have to be careful not to press the keys accidentally which is difficult as I often put it in my pocket and more so inside the pouch. I think the swipe to answer is the killer option.

bimboybimboy said:
See, even if no software was there u wud have to press a key or tap something to answer anyway. With S2U2 and incall lock, the only point of access is the slider (in my case) with which i can either accept or reject calls. So if i swipe to ans, the lock opens and i can straight away start talking. So there really is no extra step involved. Whereas, if I do not lock the key, I will have to be careful not to press the keys accidentally which is difficult as I often put it in my pocket and more so inside the pouch. I think the swipe to answer is the killer option.
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Slide to Answer is great option to traditional Click to Answer, that is very true, however, that option has been adopted in 6.5 and some 3rd parties phone app as well, so if in i8000 case, the phone interface can be omitted and use the 6.5 or simply use those better and more feature phone apps

captkkk said:
Slide to Answer is great option to traditional Click to Answer, that is very true, however, that option has been adopted in 6.5 and some 3rd parties phone app as well, so if in i8000 case, the phone interface can be omitted and use the 6.5 or simply use those better and more feature phone apps
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Well, as I said I hv 6.1 & 6.5 not yet available in my country. so...

Hi,
I installed Throttle Lock.. Nice lock... it has slide to answer..
secondly it does not interfere with the touch player, lyk s2u2 does..

Are you using Omnia II with WM6.1 ?
Because throttle lock is not saving the settings on my phone. And yes, I am clicking the "ok" button at the top right and getting a message "changes saved". And my slide to answer is ON but no slide is displayed. All I can see is the default lock screen which opens when I click on a button on screen but that certainly does not solve my problem. Using ver .07 (latest).
I have even registered myself. Hell, the config.xml file shows Calllock is on but its not even locking when the call comes. That should be the very basic default function. Sorry, back to s2u2.

I am using WinMo 6.1 original Rom...
I installed it on Storage memory.. and its workign fine.. It does interfere with the Samsund dialer when the call comes in... but I will try disabling the samsung dialer and check... back to your issue.. Try re-installing it.. and it should work.. iam able to save all my settings..
And when the call comes in My hardware keys are lock as well and I get option to Slide to Answer or reject..

Aafi-rocks said:
I am using WinMo 6.1 original Rom...
I installed it on Storage memory.. and its workign fine.. It does interfere with the Samsund dialer when the call comes in... but I will try disabling the samsung dialer and check... back to your issue.. Try re-installing it.. and it should work.. iam able to save all my settings..
And when the call comes in My hardware keys are lock as well and I get option to Slide to Answer or reject..
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Thanks. I unistalled S2u2 and installed again. Still no. Yet the program was working when I clicked on it. So, luckily having some working knowledge of windows, I found that the program is not putting a link in the start menu or start up folder. This I had to do manually. But thats unclean.
And what happens when a call comes is funny. There is a brief fight between the throttle default , the windows splash & the lock screen itself. Luckily, the lock screen is winning every time. But again unclean or is it the links I have placed.
Currenly, I have links to both thottlelock & throttlelockdemon in the startup & lockdemon in the start menu. How is it with u?
Also in the setting under samsung default setup, the options like lock mode & incoming are white on white. What are your current settings ?
Think this program was designed for HTC. But is definitly smaller and though not neat...working. Thanks

I have mapped it to a hardware key, so when I want to lock I press the hardware key..

Aafi-rocks said:
I have mapped it to a hardware key, so when I want to lock I press the hardware key..
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Use incall lock for locking the keys when call comes. Works perfectly.
Tried the throttlelock for 2 days. Sometimes, the default wm screen was coming up and the look is messy. So more experiements......but till date s2u2+incall lock looks the cleanest. Will keep looking...

captkkk said:
TouchLockPro is the answer, however, if both touch screen and the keys are locked on all in-coming calls, how the hell do you answer the phone? First to unlock it then answer it? A bit troublesome.
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I'm using TouchLockPro. It's much faster and less memory consuming than S2U2 and it has multiple ways to unlock your phone!
In the newest version, you can unlock your phone by using the proximity sensor (and our Omnia II has one )
So if your phone wakes up in your pocket our pouch, it won't unlock, but if it wakes up in your hand or on your desk, it will unlock immediately!
Consequently, if you have an incoming call and the phone is in your pocket: It will remain locked until it's out of your pocket so you don't have to manually unlock before answering
I love it!

maardiweb said:
I'm using TouchLockPro. It's much faster and less memory consuming than S2U2 and it has multiple ways to unlock your phone!
In the newest version, you can unlock your phone by using the proximity sensor (and our Omnia II has one )
So if your phone wakes up in your pocket our pouch, it won't unlock, but if it wakes up in your hand or on your desk, it will unlock immediately!
Consequently, if you have an incoming call and the phone is in your pocket: It will remain locked until it's out of your pocket so you don't have to manually unlock before answering
I love it!
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I hv omnia 2 with wm6.1. Tried touchlockpro and was absolutely useless. How is it possible ?

Can u plz put in the download link.. Iam sure its somewhere on XDA itself, but I am kinda lazy to search today.... I'll download it once I reach home..

Useless Button

I am excited to use my TMOUS device except several small issues. Some of them already fixed here (thanks this forum), but some irritates me (especcially whole device is excellent). One of this is middle hard button ( I mean that "back arrow"). My opinion is its most useless key I saw. It will must better to use this as a comprehensive Task Manager or Task Switcher. But this ONE STEP BACK(!!)... Stupid! I can't find any decision in internet to correspond this button to useful function, except AEButton-software, but I don't like this so artificial way, which running on memory and fishing all button events. Anybody knows other solving?

i use the back button maybe a hundred times a day in opera. faster than calling opera out of fullscreen to hit the soft back button.
i havent heard of any other way to change it than by using aebuttons, sorry.

samsamuel said:
i use the back button maybe a hundred times a day in opera. faster than calling opera out of fullscreen to hit the soft back button.
i havent heard of any other way to change it than by using aebuttons, sorry.
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You Sir, deserve a +1 rep (if this board would have allowed it )
You saved me a lot of screen taps

chvvkumar said:
You Sir, deserve a +1 rep (if this board would have allowed it )
You saved me a lot of screen taps
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heh no worries. The one drawback is that if you hit a link that opens in a new tab, and then hit the back hard key, it drops you back to manila home (although opera is still running, just switch back to it) because there is no 'back' for that tab, so it assumes you mean to go back to home.
However you soon get used to it and it happens less and less.

samsamuel Thats good, but its not enough for device with only 5 hardware buttons (except volume control) to have only one programmable button for user friendly functions. I guess professionals in this forum can help us to establish full control for these buttons!

MYermakiov said:
samsamuel Thats good, but its not enough for device with only 5 hardware buttons (except volume control) to have only one programmable button for user friendly functions. I guess professionals in this forum can help us to establish full control for these buttons!
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If you search around, you will find apps to do just that.

MYermakiov said:
I am excited to use my TMOUS device except several small issues. Some of them already fixed here (thanks this forum), but some irritates me (especcially whole device is excellent). One of this is middle hard button ( I mean that "back arrow"). My opinion is its most useless key I saw. It will must better to use this as a comprehensive Task Manager or Task Switcher. But this ONE STEP BACK(!!)... Stupid! I can't find any decision in internet to correspond this button to useful function, except AEButton-software, but I don't like this so artificial way, which running on memory and fishing all button events. Anybody knows other solving?
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I use the back button every time I use my phone in every program. how is a back button not a good idea?

The Back arrow button functions as close app button my Euro HD2. Initially I used to think that it's just allowing me to step out of an application back to the previous screen / app that I was in, but after checking the task manager periodically, I realised that this button actually closes my apps.
Are you guys sure it's not doing the same with your T-Mo edition?