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Screen protectors - impossible to avoid dust?

It seems no matter how hard I try, I'm finding it almost impossible to not get *some* dust under my screen protectors when I apply them - am I alone?
Si.

See my post in this thread - works every time.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=32028

Steamy room - aren't you worried the humidity will affect the PDA?

Ineedtoys: great stuff!
And as also in that thread, use the frosted 3m sticky tape to lift dust off the screen protector. It's only mildly tacky.
I make a "sheet" of sticky tape, laying it in strips across the screen, and then lift it off just before appling the protector. If you notice any remaining bits of dust, use another strip to lift off the dust again just before applying the protector.
Steam will help keep the dust off the screen to begin with.
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devros said:
Steamy room - aren't you worried the humidity will affect the PDA?
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It doesn't have to be that steamy like a Turkish bath - you need to be able to see what you're doing after all! Just humid enough to kill the dust and static in the air. If you're worried about condensation forming, just make sure you keep it in a warm room afterwards until it's had chance to fully acclimatise.

I've got around seven bits of dust trapped under the protector - and I've tried five times - should I give up and accept that I've done my best - I couldn't see them when applying!
Si.

devros said:
I've got around seven bits of dust trapped under the protector - and I've tried five times - should I give up and accept that I've done my best - I couldn't see them when applying!
Si.
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Well now I've done it a few times I don't settle for one - if there is, then I go back to the start and give it a good wash. But, there is the risk that the more times you remove and apply the protector, the more likely it is that you'll damage or distort it. The most important thing is to take your time. You'll get used to spotting the defects when applying, so the only thing to do is to abandon that attempt and try again. Trying to squeeze the dust specks out will _never_ work.

Hi!
I always use the Brando Screen Protector, which is a reusable, washable, permanent foil.
For this the trick was, to clean the pda screen with a soft cloth which is made wet with glass cleaner and water. of course not too wet, just a little, so that the pda screen is not soaked.
the glass cleaner seems to have some antistatic effect so it does not get any dust on it.
But this trick is for the Brando foils, which is a little different than the normal foils.
maybe this helps.

I used Brando as well, got it on first time, no dust.

Ineedtoys said:
See my post in this thread - works every time.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=32028
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Indeed it does - with one additional note - use a quality protector - I've tried ultra clear ones from ebay, but just applied a PPC techs clear protector - not a problem.
Cheers,
Si.

Hi
Maybe a stupid question but I bought some screen protectors from Ebay and fitted one of them quite succesfully. Problem is the touchscreen no longer works, no reaction from the stylus.
Are they just crap protectors or am I missing something basic??
Cheers
Simon

smokingdragon said:
Hi
Are they just crap protectors....??
Cheers
Simon
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I think you've answered your own question.
Si.

[REVIEW] Nushield Screen Protector for Kaiser

My review of the screen protector from Nushield.
(Purchased 2 anti glare, 1 clear model screen protector [comes in a package of 3 only]~ 12 USD)
Install:
-Installation is pretty straightforward but requires some experimenting to get the film in.(Doesn't use a sticky film, but rather a slide in)
-Warning, Make sure that there is no dust under the screen! It is a pain to take out. Trust me i know, i accidently wasted a film by bending it to take it out.
-When you first get the product, u might think that the screen protector they sent you wasn't yours since it looked to big to be fitted in. But actually it fits perfectly once u manage to slide all sides in.
Sensitivity loss:
-On a scale of 10(10 meaning no sensitivity, and 0 meaning no screen protector) it receives a 1.
-However, I did find a HUGE improvement in the touchflo scrolling than without the screen protector.(If you own a kaiser, you should know of the smears and awkwardness of sliding ur thumb to scroll.)
Overall feel and look:
-I actually dont notice it, and it is fingerprint proof.
-Using touchflo feature, the thumb easily slides across with no smears, in other words i dont get that suction feeling.
-And dont forget this is a slide in, so you dont get those bubbles you get from using the provided screen protector you got with the kaiser. The screen protectors surface is really smooth, its like sliding a thumb across a sheet of printing paper)
PS: I have not tried the clear film yet, and dont think i have to. The antiglare film seems to be secure and feels as if it can last years...
My rating for the nushield screen protector is a 9/10.(would be 10/10 if it was easier to install, but then it wouldn't work as good )
As for purchase instructions, go to www.nushield.com and choose the HTC TYTN as for screen specs since it is the same as the kaiser. (I was foolish to try to custom make the screen protector for the kaiser only to realize that its the same size as the tytn!!*got email telling me that *) You can mix and match as i did by putting which films you would want under the comments on checkout.

Thanks for that, i was looking for a good screen protector but i didnt want those sticky ones. This is perfect and from your review, it seems to do a great job too!
Thanks, i just ordered one, but as you said, there was no 'kaiser' ones so i just ordered it for the tytn

I'll always be a fan of PocketPCTechs.com's WriteShields. And during October, you can get 20% off if you use this coupon code: PPCTRC1007
Type it into the Special Instructions field.

Just as an FYI to anyone else considering ordering the NuShield: I decided to try some based on this review, and also decided to get two anti-glare and one clear. I got the following response:
While we are always trying to be accommodating to our customers
special requests, this one has gotten out of hand. Someone must have
posted on a discussion board that we will do this. This request is
now occurring several times daily and represents a significant amount
of time and effort to put these special packages together.
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Guess they don't like doing that very much.
EDIT: and fwiw, they appear to currently be out of anti-glare anyway, so I ended up ordering clear.

Martin Field's OverlayPlus
Best. Screen protector. Ever. Period.
It's non sticky, invisible, and best of all: If you mess up (e.g. bubbles, dust) while putting it on, you can just rinse it off with water, let it dry for a few minutes (or blow dry), and voila: It's clean and sticks again.
I've been using these things on my mobile phones, PDA's, Nintendo DS, etc, for as long as I can remember. Even after 5 years, you can simply take the screen protector off and your screen will look brand new.
Already have a small scratch? Put the screen protector on and it's gone

ekw said:
As for purchase instructions, go to www.nushield.com and choose the HTC TYTN as for screen specs since it is the same as the kaiser. (I was foolish to try to custom make the screen protector for the kaiser only to realize that its the same size as the tytn!!*got email telling me that *) You can mix and match as i did by putting which films you would want under the comments on checkout.
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I thought the 8525 is the same as the TyTN, and the screen protectors for it won't quite fit the Tilt.
But you can confirm these will fit the Tilt?

GWelker62 said:
I thought the 8525 is the same as the TyTN, and the screen protectors for it won't quite fit the Tilt.
But you can confirm these will fit the Tilt?
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Unless it's an unusually small screen protector for the TyTn/8525, you are correct that it will be too large for the Tilt. I had to trim about a millimeter off of each dimension of my Boxwave ClearTouch Anti-Glare for it to fit.
I really like the Boxwave protectors. I had one protector last for over two years on my Treo 650, and similar to another protector described, if you want to clean it just use hand soap and water and stick it right back on.
In fact, I found that if the protector is slightly wet, it is much easier to get the bubbles out. It took almost no effort after I trimmed it when I put it onto my Tilt's screen.

So do any of these make the screen easier to see in direct sunlight?

I just ordered 2 BRANDO superclear ones ... have had a lot of phones and have had a lot of screen protectors but i have to say brando is DEFINATELY the best.

Noiz said:
So do any of these make the screen easier to see in direct sunlight?
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I've never came across any that would. The only thing that helps is the... ummm, shade.

GWelker62 said:
I thought the 8525 is the same as the TyTN, and the screen protectors for it won't quite fit the Tilt.
But you can confirm these will fit the Tilt?
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I confirmed it in my review. BTW Dont be stupid and trim it, it fits perfectly, trimming it would cause it to be loose once its in which will become an annoyance.

I just received the overlay plus screen protector for the tytn, and it does not fit the kaiser screen. The tytn overlay is larger than the kaiser's screen. I hope martin fields accepts exchanges.

d12ag0n49 said:
I just received the overlay plus screen protector for the tytn, and it does not fit the kaiser screen. The tytn overlay is larger than the kaiser's screen. I hope martin fields accepts exchanges.
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keep trying to fit it in, if you read the original review he says that it's very hard to get it in there, but once it's in...it's gonna do good.

I was able to fit it in but its not on perfectly because the overlay uses a silicone adhesive, which makes it somewhat difficult to maneuver unlike the nushield screeprotectors which you just slip in.

d12ag0n49 said:
I was able to fit it in but its not on perfectly because the overlay uses a silicone adhesive, which makes it somewhat difficult to maneuver unlike the nushield screeprotectors which you just slip in.
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wait....i think this is a case of miscommunication, I thought that you couldnt insert the NuShield protectors in, so I said to keep trying because the original poster said that it took him a little bit, but now it seems like you are talking about another kind of protector.
Conclusion: I'm confused

a lot of 99 cents only stores have 10 for 1 screen protectors that are larger than the kaiser. i bought like 5 of these (50 count) and just cut them to the size of the manufacturer's protector. it takes about a minute and avoids the highway robbery of screen protector prices.

ghaith_d said:
wait....i think this is a case of miscommunication, I thought that you couldnt insert the NuShield protectors in, so I said to keep trying because the original poster said that it took him a little bit, but now it seems like you are talking about another kind of protector.
Conclusion: I'm confused
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Sorry for the confusion. I purchased the Martin Fields Overlay Plus screen protector and not the Nushield one that the OP reviewed.

d12ag0n49 said:
Sorry for the confusion. I purchased the Martin Fields Overlay Plus screen protector and not the Nushield one that the OP reviewed.
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aaaah, makes sense. I already have my 6gb micro sdhc and my nushield protectors...im just waiting for my kaiser

Nushield now has a drop down menu for Tilt in ATT and TyTn II in HTC sections. I will order them since it seems like a pretty good value.

i ordered a shield from shieldzone.com
i have used them on my blackjack and digital camera, but never a PPC device so I will have to see how well it works..

Has anyone ever tried these screen protectors?

Ran a search but for some reason it doesn't seem anyone has ever tried these...
http://www.thepocketsolution.com/PSI-42588.html?gclid=CPeS1r25xZMCFSQtagodiEn8Cw
Wanted to get some feedback by members on this forum before purchasing. What do you guys think? Will "static attachment" mess up the screen in any way?

screen protector
you dont have a screen protector on your phone?? it shouldve came with your phone unless you got it else where. better get these

well i screwed up the one that came wit it by trying to get it perfectly on the screen, so after ripping it out over and over again i kept gettin dust on it, so i threw it away and for now i put that original one back that has the pictures on it and shows you how to tilt ur phone? u know the one that comes on it when its brand new wit "warnings" and stuff...
either way...i am about to purchase either the "Expert Shield" or the pocket solution ones and i am tryin to get some feedback on the pocket solution ones first before purchasing. as for now, i have my phone on "baby mode" and am leaving it at home

geez...no one?

Expert Shield all the way. Don't even second guess it.

Expert Shield rocks. I have used them for my Tilt and a couple of cameras. You just have be careful putting them on. It is really easy to get dust under it if your not careful. Look on eBay and you can find them for really cheap shipped from either Hong Kong or Canada. Usually around $10 - $12 shipped. They are more expensive here.

Martin Field screen protector is THE best screen protector for the kaiser.

captainsensible2002 said:
Martin Field screen protector is THE best screen protector for the kaiser.
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+5 to that. i'm using them now on my tilt.
they're thick, yet flexible, have yet to show any wear from the stylus, & they haven't appeared to affect the touch sensitivity either.

It's been said by someone here that the Expert Shield protectors are just as good as the Martin Fields. He ruined one of his Martin Fields and I told him to try out ES and he said it was great.
They're a lot cheaper also.

ScreenPatronus
I recommend Screen Patronus

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I recommend Screen Patronus
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+5 to that. I've used InvisibleSHIELD but removed it and used ScreenPatronus instead.

PSP Screen protector
I'm using a Hiro PSP Screen protector (cut into size) covers 99.9% of the screen almost same thickness as with martin fields, but at a fraction of the price
It also doesn't affect screen sensitivity.

-haze- said:
Expert Shield all the way. Don't even second guess it.
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I second this, i got my a couple days ago. I love it, its more of a hard plastic type protector, alot better than those expensive sticky films you can buy.

pinkfloyd01 said:
Expert Shield rocks. I have used them for my Tilt and a couple of cameras. You just have be careful putting them on. It is really easy to get dust under it if your not careful. Look on eBay and you can find them for really cheap shipped from either Hong Kong or Canada. Usually around $10 - $12 shipped. They are more expensive here.
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I bought an Expert Shield and am VERY happpy with it. You're dead on about the dust thing and I'll add fingerprints to that list.
I did discover is that you can remove it and wash the sticky side off with warm water and a clean finger. Then pat dry lightly with lint free cloth for eye glasses. It will it go right back on just like new!!!! I did this three times in a row for fingerprints and dust that was bugging me.
Great product!!!

i would strongly recommend http://www.zagg.com/ Invisible sheild

monster2223 said:
Ran a search but for some reason it doesn't seem anyone has ever tried these...
http://www.thepocketsolution.com/PSI-42588.html?gclid=CPeS1r25xZMCFSQtagodiEn8Cw
Wanted to get some feedback by members on this forum before purchasing. What do you guys think? Will "static attachment" mess up the screen in any way?
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I'm using them, and they are ok for the money. There are better ones out there like the others are stating. But for 5 bucks, not a bad buy at all.

Also try Boxwave's ClearTouch, It's a bit pricey but man... after 2 month with this thing stick on my screen, it didn't even get a single scratch on it, hard as a rock! Also perfect fit. It's also washable and after wash it with soap and put it back on to your screen it looks like brand new... Well worth the money.
Link here.

Someone here linked them before I bought them and they are garbage. They are a pain in the ass to put on the first one I put on didnt cover enough of the screen and anything off of your fingers stays on there and its very hard to clean you have to use water. Mircofiber cloth wasnt good enough. Within two weeks it bubbled up and I had to trash the 1st one. The 2nd one that came in the pack was too big and it was also did not fit well. Oh yea
I dont recommend them.

Lifetime Shield
Invisible Shield. Thats the one.

Lifetime shield
The invisible shield does have a different feel to it, but its nothing thats a show stopper. The company is good for its work, they have already replaced one due to the lack of a camera opening for my tytn 2.

Best screen protector, cover?

if you useing screen protector, whitch one you thing is the best, most invisible? Where buy it, ebay?

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if you useing screen protector, whitch one you thing is the best, most invisible? Where buy it, ebay?
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Hi,
always buying from BRANDO, the best protectors on the world...
try THIS
best regards...

Thanks. What about DuraSec ClearTec from germany?
Just ordered from Brando...

Mildajz said:
Thanks. What about DuraSec ClearTec from germany?
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don't know... always use brando.
Always perfect fit, veeery high quality, really...
And, you could remove, wash it, and put again on device...
Very easy to put..
you have to buy ULTRACLEAR.. this is the best.
When order, it come to croatia in 12 days.
In letter...
best regards
(ps. don't have my HD yet, but brando screen protector is on the way

Fully support the use of Brando Ultraclear.
I use them with my PDA's/Phones.
Beards.

How is the screen protector that is included with the HD?

How is the screen protector that is included with the HD?
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Scientifically put.......an enormous pain in the arse.
Really awkward fit - I tried several times [very very carefully] and STILL ended up with a very small 'bubble' strip on the bottom rhs of the screen
I'll have a look at the Brando ones - I was waiting for a Martin Fields one to come out (as they do a great one for my Diamond)

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Scientifically put.......an enormous pain in the arse.
Really awkward fit - I tried several times [very very carefully] and STILL ended up with a very small 'bubble' strip on the bottom rhs of the screen
I'll have a look at the Brando ones - I was waiting for a Martin Fields one to come out (as they do a great one for my Diamond)
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I imagine they would all be a pain to apply with a screen that large.

gervasius said:
Hi,
always buying from BRANDO, the best protectors on the world...
try THIS
best regards...
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just ordered this. good price. will report back

The ones from brando are excellent, probably the best screen protector.
I've bought them since the days of the SE P800 and no complain at all

I've always like PPCTechs AG protectors because they have a matt finish. They last for years and make a nice finish to reduce glare/reflections. But it looks like they won't be offering one for this device at the moment.
Can anyone recommend something similar?
Many thanks,

I just got my "BW PDA Screen Protector (HTC Touch HD)" Brando brand screen protector. I'm not a big fan. The camera hole isn't a hole it's a U shaped notch. The speaker hole is quite big. The corners don't follow the curves of the phone and it's about 1mm short on the bottom. The one I got was the anti-glare version. I think it might work (anti-glare) but I won't put it on as I think it would make the phone look cheap due to the bad fit. I've had good experiences with Exim brand protectors in the past. Looks like I'll give them a go again. Mind you they are more expensive.

what do you use to clean the screen of HD before apply brando cover to prevent air bubble?

Another vote for Brando - must be the ultraclear.
Only complaint is that the Brando seems to gather a few more finger prints than the native screen.
The in box screen protector from HTC is rubbish !

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Does anyone know of one that protects the whole body. I find taking it out of a pouch always ends up answering the call. So probably going to discard the pouch if I can get a good fully body protector.

Does anyone know if invisibleshield from ZAGG is any good?
I believe there isn't a version for the HD yet, but it will come in the future

qai5er said:
Does anyone know of one that protects the whole body. I find taking it out of a pouch always ends up answering the call. So probably going to discard the pouch if I can get a good fully body protector.
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Do you know what button is pressed?
I thought the answer button was capacitive and could only be activated with finger press and not with other object pressure.
Could you test if you can press the aswer button with the pen or other object? TIA
PS: I don't have the HD yet.

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Do you know what button is pressed?
I thought the answer button was capacitive and could only be activated with finger press and not with other object pressure.
Could you test if you can press the aswer button with the pen or other object? TIA
PS: I don't have the HD yet.
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It's resistive, not capacative. You can use the stylus for example to push the button

Timbojames said:
It's resistive, not capacative. You can use the stylus for example to push the button
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Being resistive defeats the purpouse of having a slider in the touchscreen to answer the call

Noony said:
I've always like PPCTechs AG protectors because they have a matt finish. They last for years and make a nice finish to reduce glare/reflections. But it looks like they won't be offering one for this device at the moment.
Can anyone recommend something similar?
Many thanks,
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you can try 3M Vikuiti ARMR200, they are available for touch hd...I have already bought one, but still waiting for my HD.

Using X1 without screen protector sheet

Anyone using x1 this way? Are there any scratches on the screen or is it safe to screw the sheet?

Yes! Since December! And no Problems

I did, but I put my X1 in my pocket often (although not in same pocket with keys) and also use it the majority of the time without a case. So a screen protector ($10 USD!!) is a small investment for protecting the screen.

I had mine since september and never used a protector or case
keep it in my pants pocker or inner jacket pocket without anything else
no problem for me

nice to hear that! I'm using a softcase for the phone and was just wondering if stilus could leave marks on the screen. Just tired to stick the sheets, I always get some air bubbles between the sheet and the screen. Thanks for the feedback

Decided to take mine off as well. The screen was not really good to read when the sun was shining on it with protector on it.
I havent used it for long but I guess it is going alright...
My recommondation to take it off..
Greets

I use one. And it has scratches on it (Quite a lot). I don't know if the screen is harder than the protector. At least I wouldn't want my screen with these scratches... And I'm usign my fingers online, never the stylus!

i used my x1 without a screen protector since nov 08 without any probs.
but 2 weeks ago i decided to buy one and only one week later i had an heavy car accident where my car flipped over two times. guess what my xperia was on the dash and was kicked around. after i found my x1 which was still navigating me there were scratches all over the phone and so on the screen protector but it saved my screen.
pls buy ur x1 a screen protector. every x1 deserved it.

testlord said:
i used my x1 without a screen protector since nov 08 without any probs.
but 2 weeks ago i decided to buy one and only one week later i had an heavy car accident where my car flipped over two times. guess what my xperia was on the dash and was kicked around. after i found my x1 which was still navigating me there were scratches all over the phone and so on the screen protector but it saved my screen.
pls buy ur x1 a screen protector. every x1 deserved it.
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Damn, dude, glad you're okay!
What gps program were you using so that I NEVER buy it.

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i take my protector shield also of, can't see anything outside when the sun is shining. i hope the display is harder then the protector shield, each protector i had was scratched from the stylus after a couple of weeks.

rookie333 said:
i take my protector shield also of, can't see anything outside when the sun is shining. i hope the display is harder then the protector shield, each protector i had was scratched after a couple of weeks.
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I use only the shield screen that come with the xperia...It is wonderful...I have buy another but it was so expensive and a peace of crap...
Do you know where can i get some of this screen protector material?
I would also buy one for my lcd laptop...
I couldt find anything that so good and reusable you can used it 100 of times and by the way i have a secret how to put it without any buble or dust 100% sure.... and it is great if anyone helped my find some information about this screen protector material or give one as a present i will be glad to share..
You know i live here in chile and we doesnt have such good materials like that...So maybe i couldt never buy something like that......So sad...

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Fulgore69 said:
I use only the shield screen that come with the xperia...It is wonderful...I have buy another but it was so expensive and a peace of crap...
Do you know where can i get some of this screen protector material?
I would also buy one for my lcd laptop...
I couldt find anything that so good and reusable you can used it 100 of times and by the way i have a secret how to put it without any buble or dust 100% sure.... and it is great if anyone helped my find some information about this screen protector material or give one as a present i will be glad to share..
You know i live here in chile and we doesnt have such good materials like that...So maybe i couldt never buy something like that......So sad...
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I can ask the service Center here in achen (germany) each repaired phone come back with this protector.
i give you a message if i got some
Ingo

I use a martins fields protector... not only is it tough and very resistant to scratching but its also great re visablity... even in full sun I can still see the screen... awesome...

Fulgore69 said:
I use only the shield screen that come with the xperia...It is wonderful...I have buy another but it was so expensive and a peace of crap...
Do you know where can i get some of this screen protector material?
I would also buy one for my lcd laptop...
I couldt find anything that so good and reusable you can used it 100 of times and by the way i have a secret how to put it without any buble or dust 100% sure.... and it is great if anyone helped my find some information about this screen protector material or give one as a present i will be glad to share..
You know i live here in chile and we doesnt have such good materials like that...So maybe i couldt never buy something like that......So sad...
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what's the secret? the reason I actually decided not to use protector sheets anymore is that anytime I apply them, there are bubbles and dust between the screen and protector

I really hate protectors. I don't know why lol.
Almost 5 months without protector and the result is dozens of scrathes that are visible only when you tilt the phone under s direct light. Otherwise they are invisible. No problem there.