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my imat jasjar with the latest rom (1.13.53) and latest radio(1.04.02) sometimes freezes 10 times a day, forcing me to soft reset (sometimes 3 or 4 times in a row) before it works again...i have tried everything from upgrading the rom, hardressetting, changing memorycards, leaving the device on instead of automaticly turning of....nothing works..
the worst is when i stop using it and put it on charge during the night, it does not wake up in the morning...i have to softreset everytime and all calls and sms that came in during that time where not received...can anybody relate to this problem, or am i alone in this....i really like the device, but missing my calls and resetting ten times a day, makes me wonder if i should go back to my trusted magician...maybe a rom from another device (o2,mda,qtek) would be a solution ?
any help is welcome
I'd get it replaced as it shouldn't be doing that. I've not had a single hang on my XDA Exec since I got it nearly a month ago.
Ant
Anton.Valleyman said:
I'd get it replaced as it shouldn't be doing that. I've not had a single hang on my XDA Exec since I got it nearly a month ago.
Ant
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do you really think it is a hardware problem....i find it more to be a software problem...and i would not like to be without my device for 1,2,3 or even more weeks...anybody know if the qtek 9000 rom is available somewhere...having had a qtek 2020,9090 and s100 and also tried a few mda's and imate's, i find these to be the best roms in general
@jesax, I had a JJ and I used all the features (inc. video calling and UMTS downloads) but only had a freeze with SMS notifications and downloading emails over UMTS. You device could have a hardware problem. The other possibility is the ROM is corrupted so you should try to download a new copy.
mine randomly hangs when using Agile Messenger. Stable the rest of the time.
Planning a hard reset shortly, will see if this fixes it.
in my case a hard reset does not change anything...i have done three and have changed to the latest rom...no dice
does anybody know where i can find the original jasjar rom or a good working english rom to try out or do a downgrade...
i am reaching in the dark here....
@jesax, did you download a fresh ROM from clubimate? Your original ROM could be corrupted
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@jesax, did you download a fresh ROM from clubimate? Your original ROM could be corrupted
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yes, i downloaded the latest rom from the imate site...no go...still the same problems...i first tought it was a charging problem, as it happens every morning when i take it from the charger....i now left the jasjar untouched for a few hours in closed position without the charger, and when i opened it up, it froze again, leading to a softreset.....HEEEEELLLP
@Jesax,
If I were you, I would have falshed the ROM again to my device as I think there is some kind of corruption to your installed ROM.
To get the latest ROM version go to this site :
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Universal/
If it does not open, just go to this site and you can open it from there:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_FTP_Site
You can get it also from this site:
http://www.clubimate.com/t-DEVICE_JASJAR_UPD.aspx
But your device must be registered to axcess to this site.
Flash the ROM to your device and try to use it without up-grading the radio version to 1.04.02..... if you experience the same problem so it's definately a hardware problem and in this case you have to give it back, but I think it will work properly "I hope".
If you don't experience the same problem again, it might be either a problem with the radio version or a problem with any of the softwares installed on your device.
By the way, can we know which softwares are installed on your device at the time being??
Please let me know the result.
Regards,
jesax, okay. So you have downloaded the new ROM at least twice now from the clubimate site therefore we can assume the ROM is okay. Also please confirm that you are not using any third-party apps. Are you using a 3G or standard GMS SIM. Try turning off the radio functions (Fn+->) and see if the freezing stops.
Jesax,
Are you using spb pocket plus or any similar software??
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@Jesax,
By the way, can we know which softwares are installed on your device at the time being??
Please let me know the result.
Regards,
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thanx, i give it a try but am getting fed up with spending hours behind the computer resetting this thing...
the software i am running are :
resco file explorer
gpspocketmagic
launcher
tomtom 5.1 installed, working but like to freez up also when in use
tweaks2k2
that's about it
i do not use 3g but do use gprs...it was switched to "always on" with the reg hack, but i turned it back (you never know)
i will have a try when i com home this evening to turn of radio function, and charge it overnight (how do i do this, without taking out the sim )
on the wiki ftp site i see there is a 02 xda exec rom i can dowload.
can anyone recommebd this ?
should i give it a try instead of the jasjar rom, and will it install as easily as the jasjar, or will it ask for id's and codes?
thanx guys
@ Jesax,
Before flashing the ROM again to your device just un-install tomtom 5.1 and pocketmajic and see the result "you can use majic button instead" .... if it does the same, you will have no option but flashing.
Don't get fed up...... your problem will be solved, the Jasjar is a wonderful device and you will enjoy it once your problem is solved.
Regards,
should i give it a try instead of the jasjar rom, and will it install as easily as the jasjar, or will it ask for id's and codes?
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I wouldn't advise you to do that.
There is nothing wrong with the jasjar ROM.... and it's the most popular.
Regards,
jesax, as I said in my previous post, you can switch off the radio using the following keys on your JJ "Fn" + "->" and select the All Off option.
Also remove all third-party apps and see if stability improves. If it does add one app at a time back to see which one is causing the stability issue.
The XDA ROM only requires a code for the Coroprate option (code is 0506), the Corporate option is the best to choose at it has no O2 additions.
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@ Jesax,
Before flashing the ROM again to your device just un-install tomtom 5.1 and pocketmajic and see the result "you can use majic button instead" .... if it does the same, you will have no option but flashing.
Don't get fed up...... your problem will be solved, the Jasjar is a wonderful device and you will enjoy it once your problem is solved.
Regards,
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thanx...i don't think tomtom5.1 is the problem, as i was having this problem before the install of tomtom...pocketmagic i can't remember when i put it on (so many resets, so many....)
i will give it a go
what's annoying is that it does not happen on steady intervals...it can freeze up twice in a minute, and then work fine for ten hours.
jah said:
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The XDA ROM only requires a code for the Coroprate option (code is 0506), the Corporate option is the best to choose at it has no O2 additions.
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would you recommend me trying it, or is the jasjar rom actually better...i don't want to spend another few hours flashing the o2 rom, if it is no use
another question...maybe related...
i have noticed that when i open up my jasjar from fully closed to "laptop" mode, the backlight does not come on everytime...sometimes it does, sometimes i have to push the "on button" to light up...
my backlight is set to go out on batterypower after 30 seconds, and to stay on with external power.
the powersettings are : turn off after 1 minute on battery power and stay on with external power
@ jesax,
Most probably your ROM is corrupted.... in this case a hard reset will not work, but a fresh flashing to the ROM will be the best solution.
Regards,
Hello all,
last week I got my new HTC Magician, here in Austria so called "T-Mobile MDA Compact". Unfortunately I have the problem, that my device freezes from time to time (at least 1 time a day). This happens most of the time when using the T-Mobile IntelliDialer, but sometimes it happens even when I do not use the device at all.
When the problem occurs, I am not able to make or receive a call, the upper status LED is gone as well (no signal, no blinking).
When I got the device I had ROM 1.13 installed, but after I heard that maybe this could cause the problems, I installed version 1.12 from T-Mobile site, but still have the same problems.
Now I am really out of ideas, don't know what to do. It seems I am not the only one with this problem, so I am afraid it hase no sense to switch the device with a new one @ a T-Mobile shop. Or do you guys have a "good", normal running Magician w/o this bug?
Thanks in advance for your help!
Greetings, Matthias
Helle again,
As you've got the same problems on rom 1.12 & 1.13 and you got it just for a week I'd say go back and get another one. There are people with simular issues and I guess there are much more users without it, like myself.
So my advice use your warrenty, make a backup of your contacts etc. first with sprite (trial version is available) or AS or whatever, saves you a lot of times. I won't restore the apps just reinstall, maybe it is some combination of a faulty program & with a backup you get that back as well. And it gives you the chance to determine, if possible, what's causing the freeze.
Good luck, M
ok, then thanks again
Today I made a ROM update @ T-Mobile. If that did not the trick (I will look for errors the next days), then I will use my warranty and change the device itself. I hope they don't send it to technical support somewhere, but give me another one instead...
Greetings and thanks for your infos, Matthias
haimat said:
Hello all,
last week I got my new HTC Magician, here in Austria so called "T-Mobile MDA Compact". Unfortunately I have the problem, that my device freezes from time to time (at least 1 time a day). This happens most of the time when using the T-Mobile IntelliDialer, but sometimes it happens even when I do not use the device at all.
When the problem occurs, I am not able to make or receive a call, the upper status LED is gone as well (no signal, no blinking).
When I got the device I had ROM 1.13 installed, but after I heard that maybe this could cause the problems, I installed version 1.12 from T-Mobile site, but still have the same problems.
Now I am really out of ideas, don't know what to do. It seems I am not the only one with this problem, so I am afraid it hase no sense to switch the device with a new one @ a T-Mobile shop. Or do you guys have a "good", normal running Magician w/o this bug?
Thanks in advance for your help!
Greetings, Matthias
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Hi,
I have been using my Magician for almost 8-9 months .. moving from ROM version 1.11 to 1.13 WWE BigStorage (radio 1.11 to 1.13 as well).Recently (last 1mth or so) I start to notice that I have a strange problem similiar to you, my 'radio' would 'hang' where I cannot receive or make calls, can't even receive or send SMS. However, my signal (the top bar signal strengh) will still work. This is really fustrating .. because the PDA still works, I won't know when my Magician 'hangs' ... (at least until I try to send SMS or make a call).
I've downgraded to Radio 1.11 & ROM 1.11 ... I'm still facing this problem, but not as often (sometime once in 2 days). The strange thing is that my wife who is using a Magician as well, is facing the same problem (symptom arrise almost the same time together). Both our phone used to be fine.
So far, no luck trying to locate the source of the problem, and I don't think both our magician's hardware got screwed at the same time ... I have a feeling, it has something to do with GPRS ... gut feel ... but cannot confirm.
Anyone face this problem and managed to solve it, I would appreciate any pointers ... Many thanks!
Note : I don't install additional ROM software such as CallerID, etc ... I only use intellidialer.
Hello, you could be right with your GPRS feeling, I have it as well...
Is the LED of your device blinking, when you have one of these freezes?
Hi guys,
Don't know if this gets you on the right track, but a few months ago I had major memory problems with my magician. Thought it was a virus, probably was one or two today plug-ins that consumed all of my memory very rapidly. Think of plug-ins like OO journalbar. Didn't look at the led blinking I just soft-reseted to solved the prob. for a few minutes. Very inconvenience when you're navigating in a car.
Since I ditched these plug-ins eveything is fine, tried them afterwards of course & noticed the memory leaks.
When you're not using anything like those apps. it must be something else. Maybe there's something on the forum.
Cheers, M
I thought about some apps or plugins as problem source too, so I refreshed my device without installing any additional app to it -- no success. So I still have these hangups, even if I have no tool installed...
Sounds like really s..tty problem.
Does the use of gprs or phone functionalities make any difference? what happens when you skip the ext-rom installation (hard-reset & soft-reset just before the customization kicks in) & go for basic WM2003, without all the TMO apps&branding?
M
... tried this allready, but without any difference, device freezes serveral times a day. I would say it's a hardware fault, can't think of another problem source.
Yesterday I spoke with a T-Mobile tech @ T-Mobile support. He told me, he is not aware of this problem and he always had "good" devices. And he updated my ROM to latest version...
Since I still have the problem, I will change my device now and see if this makes any difference!
haimat,
I think exchanging your magician is the best option, the techi might be right in saying he only encountered good ones. Haven't found much error reports like yours, so the rest must be good (look at the bright side). Hope you can trade it directly without any hassle & enjoy your magician for the rest of it's lifetime.
Found some people with a universal with simular probs. didn't read all posts though there were so many. So can't tell you how it ended, it's about a JasJas that hangs and hangs and ...
In the meantime good luck with the change of your device.
Cheers, M
The latest XDA Exec System Software is available for you to download. New and changed in this version of software, v1.13.188 are:
Updated O2 Active UI
Disablement of Device Error Logging
http://www.my-xda.com/xdaexec_soft.html
Merry Christmas All!
Just posted the same 5 mins ago but what the hell!
Merry Christmas
@stick, it was your post that prompted me to look at O2's site, thought the new Rom deserved a topic of its own, well spotted stick
Downloaded, but no use at all as there is no Macintosh or from device installer.
Is there a way to install from the device?
To anyone who've upgraded.. Is it worth the trouble? How's the new Active UI? Hate to go through all the trouble and find 0.000000001% gain in performance
Upgrading just now will let you know
Upgrading now too...was half way thru when it go to boot loader mode with ID error
Fortunately I hard reset and insert my sync cable...walla uploading new radio rom now...hope it will be ok else i have to send back to UK...very far for me
buggers... can't uninstall o2 Active UI.
Any ideas ? Tried on the handset and using ActiveSync.
hmmm...finish upgrading...there seem to be a battery bar indicator in today..(BatteryNFO)
less lagg so far..
thats all I can say till I finish instaling my sw.
cheers!
The website asked for imei etc and mobile number. iv got an orange phone i put my imei in and no number got the rom ok.
Used to usal upgrade method to apply the new rom.
Ok lets break it up, what do all the cabs do it make it faster faster i tell u
argh2000 said:
hmmm...finish upgrading...there seem to be a battery bar indicator in today..(BatteryNFO)
less lagg so far..
thats all I can say till I finish instaling my sw.
cheers!
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I had the tray battery icon for about 2mins, now it's disappeared. I seem to recall this happening when I first got my Exec as well. I'd rather have that one than a today screen one...anyone got any ideas?
Cheers
Ant
Anton.Valleyman said:
I had the tray battery icon for about 2mins, now it's disappeared. I seem to recall this happening when I first got my Exec as well. I'd rather have that one than a today screen one...anyone got any ideas?
Cheers
Ant
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That is because it is removed by one of the cab files. I normally removes it myself after upgrading (e.g. imate , qtek or o2 rom). No I do not have to do it manually.
Well, my experience thus far of the new ROM is that screen rotation is much quicker.
I've got pretty much all the same apps on as I did before with the old ROM and I'm quite happy with it thus far.
Feels a bit tighter, generally. That long delay in opening Start menu seems to be gone, for one.
Cheers
Ant
Hi
Have they upgraded the radio version.
Have the resolved the problem of the radio, when it losser signal it does not get it back untill you soft rest or switch the phone to flight mpde then back on then you get a signal is it still the same????????????
Ciao
Gigino
Just done the upgrade, but lost 5-years off my life and some of the remaining hair on my head in the process!
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Major difference is that o2 have junked their dreadful interface, and the top & bottom blue bands of the o2 Today theme are lighter, but little else appears to have changed/been added. AKU2 is not included.
Current O2 Exec versions are:
ROM: 1.13.82 WWE
ROM Date: 11/30/05
Radio: 1.04.02
Protocol: 42.37.P8
ExtROM: 1.13.188
So are you advising us that if the "error" appears to just let it sit there and just watch?
Is there an Messaging Feature Pack with this ROM?
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So are you advising us that if the "error" appears to just let it sit there and just watch?
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This error is very common, nothing to worry about. It is old news. It has been discussed on various threads already. So if any issue just do a search. Advise is always: do not unplug anything or stop the PC. Just re-run the update again. If you are flahing this Exec rom on a non Exec device (e.g. Jasjar, Qtek 9000 or MDA Pro), make sure you use the MAUpgradeUt_NoID.exe. Otherwise you will also get the country code error.
I have flashed my MDA Pro about five times now (with Jasjar Rom, imate, O2) and so far it always succeeds.
Can anyone confirm whether the new rom fixes the GPRS Monitor install problem ?
Hey Guys, is this only my issue or it happens to you as well?
I noticed that my K-Jam (Qtec or whatever) restarts itself from time to time. I have almost fresh (yesterday formatted) WM5, no today plugins, no additional appz installed. Sometimes when I look at my phone it shows Password Keypad which is set to lock the device after 24h of being idle (that's the way I realized it must have been restarted).
I didn't have enough time to play with it and check how often it does so, thought I will ask experts here first...
Right now I have 1.6.7.1 WWE ROM, I will update to newest today and check if it solves the problem (by the way ... which one do you recommend I-Mate or Qtec?).
Thanks!
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I noticed that my K-Jam (Qtec or whatever) restarts itself from time to time. I have almost fresh (yesterday formatted) WM5, no today plugins, no additional appz installed. Sometimes when I look at my phone it shows Password Keypad which is set to lock the device after 24h of being idle (that's the way I realized it must have been restarted).
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this is quite well known issue. wizard sometimes resets itself without any particular reason and it was discussed here many times. i used to have this problem with my wizard, however after updating to AKU2 ROM, it got much much more stable than before. try to update ROM to newest AKU2 version and then check if problem persist.
eva_d said:
this is quite well known issue. wizard sometimes resets itself without any particular reason and it was discussed here many times. i used to have this problem with my wizard, however after updating to AKU2 ROM, it got much much more stable than before. try to update ROM to newest AKU2 version and then check if problem persist.
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Right... sorry for mentioning well known topic again then...
Thx for the reply!
TroLoo
I certainly had a major issues with this on the old rom.
However int eh past week I have lost 2 important phone calls when the damn thing has rebooted int eh middle of a telephone call.
Robin
Hardware: Dopod 818Pro
ROM: Qtek S200, 2.20.7.34 World Wide English, Date:7/10/06, Radio: 02.47.21, ExtROM:2.20.7.114
Software Installed: E-Sword 3.01 (Bible Software), Mapking 2007, Select-Radio, MobiPocket
How's the problem happened:
After Hard Reset, simply install above software, and start the 10 hrs test by launching E-Sword, Mapking and Select Radio, keep the radio playing, by sharing Internet connection through USB to PC.
10 hrs later, or around, you will possibly find either,
a. some icons "white out", not able to run by clicking on them, if you do click, they will give you a program is not certificated, or something like that being mentioned at other threads.
b. Today Screen lost some lines.
c. System may hang later.
IMHO,
1. It looks rather like the GDI resource running out in win98 system.
2. The originally seemed random error now can be repeated by above procedure, time related, always around 10 hrs.
3. Not to specific software, any above software can cause the same problem, just choose SelectRadio as example, since it also test the network connection.
Anybody experience the same problem and any suggestion? It's not a big one, however, annoying when you need to keep running something.
It would be very grateful if somebody can offer me a suggestion on the cause or how to debug it.
J install this rom
J Have problem with:
Today Screen lost icon
Keyboard don't work etc...
The best rom WM5 for Prophet is : JAMin_WWE_213923_2139123_022021 ( ftp://ftp.clubimate.com/JAMin_WWE_213923_2139123_022021_ship.zip )
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J install this rom
J Have problem with:
Today Screen lost icon
Keyboard don't work etc...
The best rom WM5 for Prophet is : JAMin_WWE_213923_2139123_022021 ( ftp://ftp.clubimate.com/JAMin_WWE_213923_2139123_022021_ship.zip )
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Bro, with all my grateful heart, i would like to ask you for one favor. Could you pls be more specific on your PDA phone hardware (Dopod, or Qtek) and how long after your phone on did that happen? A clean installation?
I had pinned down the problem to my Home Screen Plugin from HTC, due to possible memory leak or heap corruption.
Now i upgrade to Korand's WM6 ROM without problem.
May still want to know the cause of problem to avoid it in the future.
Anyway, i will still download your suggested ROM for dissection...to see the difference. Thanks.