Is the K Jam any good????????? - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General

HI
My PDA2K is close to falling to pieces so its time to upgrade.
The Jasjar just seems TOO big, its bigger than my PDA2K which in my opinion is about as big as I want to go for a device I carry ALL the time.
So I am looking at the K Jam.
In the opinion of people here is it:-
Reliable (bluetooth etc.
readable (its a small screen)
Would you buy it again?
Anything else you think I should consider?
Cheers and MERRY XMAS.
Robin

Robster said:
Reliable (bluetooth etc.
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I find the Wizard very reliable. However I still (after weeks of struggle) haven't managed, without ActiveSync, to transfer files/contacts/tasks/etc from my old pda (an ipaq hx2750) to the Wizard. There is an open thread regarding this, but haven't received feedback on the issue.
For me, it is a great limitation that I can't transfer data directly between my Wizard and my cellular and between the Wizard and my old pda...

Hi
Thanks for the the reply.
Are you saying Activesync does not work?
If I cannot get all my data from Outlook to the 9100 I might as well buy another PDA2K.
Robin

Activesync 4.1 (latest build from M$) does work with K-Jam. Some users have issues but these are probably pc/firewall issues. Mine works fine on XP SP2/AS4.1/Outlook2003. My first PDA 9Used smartphones for 3 years) and an excellent product. I would recommend and definately buy again!

Robster said:
Hi
Thanks for the the reply.
Are you saying Activesync does not work?
Robin
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No, what I'm saying is that the crappy ActiveSync is the only way for me to transfer files from the PC to the PDA. That means that I need to sync my pda with ActiveSync in order to transfer a simple file to the Wizard.

AH okay.
I only use Activesync have never used/tried any other method so I guess I SHOULD be okay!!!!
Cheers.
Robin

bateman said:
No, what I'm saying is that the crappy ActiveSync is the only way for me to transfer files from the PC to the PDA. That means that I need to sync my pda with ActiveSync in order to transfer a simple file to the Wizard.
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This is not unique to the Wizard however. Find a solution that works from PDA to Windows Mobile and chances are it will work with the wizard.
I migratd from the PDA2K to the Wizard myself. I prefer the size and bluetooth works much better on the Wizard. Text is readable, though smaller. You get used to holding it a little closer.
I have problems with the fragility of the stylus silo and like the buttons on the PDA2K more but overall am very pleased with the purchase.

I'm very happy with it as well, and quite impressed with the battery time (though I have to say it's my first pda, so I don't really have much reference, but I expected it to be a lot worse).
For file transfer, just use a cardreader... I've been able to access shares through wlan as well though. Havent tried for bluetooth, either for file transfer or for a headset...

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Towa bluetooth fix and ActiveSyncing via Bluetooth

Hi. I was previously ActiveSyncing ok via my bluetooth dongle, and then I installed Towa's bluetooth fix, which works great with my GPS system.
However, now I can't ActiveSync with my laptop anymore.
It could be something else, but before I waste a lot of time on this, I just want to know this. Has anyone managed to get the Towa fix working with both GPS and ActiveSync? If someone says yes, I'll persevere with sorting things out my end, though I'm thinking that maybe there's a conflict?
onepieceman said:
Has anyone managed to get the Towa fix working with both GPS and ActiveSync? If someone says yes, I'll persevere with sorting things out my end, though I'm thinking that maybe there's a conflict?
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/me says yes. Or, to rephrase, that: right at this moment my MDA II is talking to both my Fortuna Clip-On Bluetooth GPS and my desktop machine via bluetooth simultaneously. ActiveSync and TomTom both run, and both work without a problem. I have Towa's patch installed, or course.
Occasionally, however, ActiveSync on my desktop machine (!) seems to lose contact to the Bluetooth dongle. Rebooting helps. Did you try that? Also, a soft reset of the MDA cannot hurt.
Cheers
Daniel
Many thanks. I've got up and running myself. Turned out I had to re-install my bluetooth dongle on the PC. Almost certainly nothing to do with the Towa extensions, which have worked flawlessly from the first.
onepieceman said:
Hi. I was previously ActiveSyncing ok via my bluetooth dongle, and then I installed Towa's bluetooth fix, which works great with my GPS system.
However, now I can't ActiveSync with my laptop anymore.
It could be something else, but before I waste a lot of time on this, I just want to know this. Has anyone managed to get the Towa fix working with both GPS and ActiveSync? If someone says yes, I'll persevere with sorting things out my end, though I'm thinking that maybe there's a conflict?
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ive noticed the same, but if i activesync with the PC via bluetooth *first* then install the towa patch it works fine
but if i install the towa patch *first* and try and connect via activesync it dosent work
only GPS works then!
anyone with the same problem?
any help?
GPS BURTOOTH
hi iv installed software on xda2 and it can see my bluetooth gps but it runs very slowly about 500m behind me is there any way of speeding it up please as i need it so much every day cheers everyone
I also experienced the same thing as jgadallah. Towa's patch works beautifully with my BT devices (headset, GPS & AS) so long as you create the partnership with the PC for activeSYnc first BEFORE installing the patch. BUT I can never activesync with Towa's patch if the patch is installed BEFORE the bond is created with the PC and XDA.
To overcome this, I always create the partnership first with my PC (say after a hard reset) then only install Towa's patch.
gps
Hi mucker tryed that still having problem its just the map runs slow gps carnt keep up can you help pl,ease or now of any one ow can cheers mucker
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Hi mucker tryed that still having problem its just the map runs slow gps carnt keep up can you help pl,ease or now of any one ow can cheers mucker
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This does not sound like a problem with the Bluetooth connection (which either works or doesn't), but with your GPS receiver. Does it use XTrac mode? If so, this is a known effect - better reception under difficult circumstances, but a lag of some ten seconds.
There are forums where all this is discussed. Unfortunately, the only one I know is in German - if you understand German, have a look at www.pocketnavigation.de. Otherwise, maybe someone else can point you to an English forum?
Cheers
Daniel

Networking via bluetooth? possible?

I just noticed my bluetooth adaptor supports some kind of LAN thing.. so it got me wondering..
Would I be able to use the bluetooth connection on my xda2 to share the internet connection without going through activesync?
Would I also be able to access shared folders on the LAN?
ive been wanting to do this as well
its gotta be possible , but i think theres a problem with the bt stack ?
would be nice to sit in my yard and browse the web tho, without forking out twice for internet use
I've got it working through activesync - but activesync has the annoying habit of disconnecting every now and then just for the hell of it.. especially when transferring a lot of data...
Would also be cool to be able to stream movies/music from my network to the pda..
here you are some applicable resources
intro:
http://www.zdnet.com.au/reviews/coolgear/pda/story/0,2000023548,20276090-2,00.htm
more detailed:
http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?ForumId=6&TopicId=785
http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?contentid=449
regards, monika
Can we setup a Bluetooth Internet Access Thread for this?
Yeah - Half of the forum is asking the same question - There's a dozen different approaches everyone's trying - But I'm not having much luck. I can do it all fine on an iPAQ but the iMate / XDA II is being a cow!
That's WITH or WITHOUT the Widcomm stack.
ADMINS! Any chance we can setup a thread for this?
THanks!
Andrew
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acurtis007 said:
Yeah - Half of the forum is asking the same question - There's a dozen different approaches everyone's trying - But I'm not having much luck. I can do it all fine on an iPAQ but the iMate / XDA II is being a cow!
That's WITH or WITHOUT the Widcomm stack.
ADMINS! Any chance we can setup a thread for this?
THanks!
Andrew
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I do not know whether is makes any difference but I am talking about bluetooth add-on functionality on XDA I and not the most recent version
regards,
monika
Check out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=4429
I can't find a working link for the widcomm stack anywhere on the forums, can *anyone* assist?
How to install BluetoothGPS
I have downloaded the BluetoothGPS.zip file - does anyone have any instructions on how to install
Cheers
Matmcken :?:
the zip file contains a cab file that you need to copy over to your XDAII. Once you have done that , double click on it to run it. Simple as that.

Advice needed: Moving from XDA II to JAM

As I'm giving up from getting my Xda II up to the task of BT Syncing AND BT handsfree, I ordered an i-mate Jam from Expansys.
As my order is on backlog due to lack of stock (more than 3 weeks now) I'm having time to wonder about my "incoming" new toy.
So I have a few questions for the more "JAM" experience users:
:?:
1.- Is BT operational with HandsFree devices? I mean carkits and the like.
2.- Is the BT stack having problems to ActiveSync with Win XP SP2?
3.- Any rumours about the new 2005 version? When will I-mate ship it?
4.- Are the most recent units coming with the flaws fixed? I read about bad sound, blurry pictures, a patched radio protocol, etc.
5.- Is any application known by not running on the JAM?
Thanks for commenting, I'll post my findings when my unit arrives.
BTW does anyone need a perfectly working XDAII?
:wink:
No help?
Ok, Should I admit there are not any problems around? Is anyone out there moved from XDA-II willing to help?
Thanks.
:wink: :?:
Great Move.
I changed my XDAII for a Jam and I'm extremely happy :lol:
No sound issues also bluetooth headset Motorola 810 connects fine. Camera is not too good but I guess thats the only flaw.
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zedeff said:
I changed my XDAII for a Jam and I'm extremely happy :lol:
No sound issues also bluetooth headset Motorola 810 connects fine. Camera is not too good but I guess thats the only flaw.
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Hi zedeff! Thanks for info!
Just wondering: Is anyone using a BT carkit? Since this is a common problem with XDA II, I'm a bit worried about.
:wink: :?:
considering a switch
i'm quite happy with my xdaII except that i find it bulky.. i'm seriously thinking of getting the xdaII mini (aka magician). any comments? bad reviews? suggestions?
btw, i'm looking for a fair market where i can sell my xdaII here in manila in case i do decide to buy the mini. any ideas? :wink:
Me too!
I'm also considering moving from the XDA2. My XDA2 has been great although not without one or two issues (getting BT working with a GPS receiver - not for the newbies!). I was considering the XDA2s and XDA2i but have read about issues with both. Now the XDA2 mini looks fantastic as I often wish I had a smaller phone without sacrificing the features. Has anyone else taken the plunge?

is it still worth to buy Win2003 Magician ?

hello guyz,
This is my first post here. I have a couple of questions from experienced PPC users . Please respond as early as possible. Thanks in Advance.
1) I am getting a very good deal for Magician(i-mate JAM). But i am confused wether to buy it or not. Is it still a good idea to buy a WM2003 PPC device OR should i wait for WM5 PPC devices to become cheaper. ( i might have to wait around1 year which is a loooong time... )
2) Are people still writing softwares for PPC WM2003 devices? or the majority has moved to writing softwares for WM5 ?
3) Right now which windows have more softwares available. WM2003 or WM5?
4) If i purchase softwares written for WM2003, will these softwares run on PPC WM5 device?
5) Finally i need some nice websites for free or paid softwares for PPC. ( you can PM me if you are not allowed to post websites links here)
The magician is a great device and, if you don't need integrated Wifi, still the best compact PPC you can get.
WM2003 in general has some advantages over WM5: It is usually faster and has less bugs. WM5 only offers better one hand use and no data loss when battery is down. The latter can be compensated for WM2003 with using good backup software (sprite backup) and the internal backup battery of the magician. I never had data loss because of this.
Get the magician for a good price. You won't regret. Really advanced devices are still to come. Maybe the Hermes will beat the Magician but it will definitely be more expensive at that time.
Regarding the software question: I haven't seen any software which only works on WM5 and not WM2003 but I have seen many softwares not supporting WM5 yet but WM2003. Most softwares are even still backwards compatible to WM2002. You can compare this to the desktop world. Most programs can still be run under Windows 98.
I recommend to get the imate Jam with 128Mb RAM if possible
Get the imate JAM if you do not have a wi-fi network at home
I fully agree Dandie's comment. I tried my friend's O2 Atom for a week (he need me to install softwares for him) and I still prefer my Magician as my working/entertaining machine.
Pro: Cheaper, more responsive and faster (media will have jitter sometime on the Atom if running GPS together), more softwares are available to 2003SE than WM5
Con: No wifi (not a problem to me since I can BT over Activesyn at home), Bad Camera.
Unless there is a very good deal. I never see the need to upgrade to 128mb if U know how to manage the RAM use. (I always run TomTom 5/IGuidance 2/TCPMP together without any problem.)
Unfortunately WM5 is the way of the future, but it's unlikely you'll encounter software that won't work on WM5 and WM2003 (since both can use .net, the "new" developers environment).
I still use my Magician as my main phone, although I'm upgrading in a few weeks and it'll have to be a WM5 phone, probably a Mio 702. WM5 adds some usability features, but not enough to turn my head IMHO.
If you're getting a good deal on a Magician, I'd certainly consider it. I'll be holding on to mine for a good while yet.
Oh, and I recommend using VJLumos II. It really brightens up the Magician screen, gives it a new lease of life.
V
I agree with V the magician still is a wonderful device & when you don't want to wait for the devices that sports hsdpa you can have loads of fun with it.
Like stated earlier TCPMP for video, Mortplayer for audio. Lots of games & other goodies. AEButton Plus for one-handed in combi wit ... VJKeyPress.
Make sure you got a good deal & enjoy it.
M
WM2003 also means no bluetooth A2DP, at least not from anything other than WMP, and even then with some odd bitrate and sample rate restrictions.
Also, I don't know about you guys, but getting stereo sound out of the magician at the same time as using an external mic is a goddam pain. Every handsfree kit I try with a mic will only play sound in the left ear.
Personally, I'd go for a Wizard (or even a Hermes <3 ). It's only a bit bigger, but has WM5, WiFi /and/ a keyboard. Now, if only Orange carried it in the UK... >.<
I've got a Wizard. It's the 3rd one in 5 months and it locks up nearly every day but a soft reset sorts it out and it fails to recognise the memory card 2-4 times a day (a known wizard issue) If you dont need the wi-fi stick with the Jam NEVER had a problem with mine. As for the wizards keyboard..I use the on screen one it's quicker.
For stereo headphones with mic try the SE P900/910 headphones they work brilliantly!
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WM2003 also means no bluetooth A2DP, at least not from anything other than WMP, and even then with some odd bitrate and sample rate restrictions.
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Maybe just the O2 Atom and my stereo headset, the quality of BT A2DP is just a joke for me.
bobgorila said:
Also, I don't know about you guys, but getting stereo sound out of the magician at the same time as using an external mic is a goddam pain. Every handsfree kit I try with a mic will only play sound in the left ear.
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It's just U. I use my Sony headphone (with shorter cable) with this 2.5 to 3.5mm adapter w/ external mic. And it just work GREAT!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...PageName=MERC_VIC_ReBay_Pr4_PcY_BIN_Stores_IT
Mine can be bought here: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9725172095
I upgraded to the Prophet. 8)
This is the second listing on eBay. The first one got hit by a nigerian scammer. :roll: Now I've had to specify UK only and PayPal only.
thank you for your comments guyz
i have bought the magician device. So far i am pretty happy with it.
Join the club, did you got a nice offer?
M
i think i did get a good offer
i got imate jam (scratchless screen) + alumunium case + 128Mb kingston SD card for 19000Rs ( 316$ )
Seems like a fair price to me. Did you search the other threads for goodies & tips?
M
Both magician and mini are great device.
Wifi? sandick sdio wifi card with 256m storage is available in a reasonable price now. BT & MINI CABLE could bring with most functions you need.
In my point of view, never try detailed camera in PDA.
So, congradulation you with a desirable product.
navid_ahmed said:
i think i did get a good offer
i got imate jam (scratchless screen) + alumunium case + 128Mb kingston SD card for 19000Rs ( 316$ )
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where did u get it so cheap......i bought it for 24000rs with no accessory
jackleung said:
It's just U. I use my Sony headphone (with shorter cable) with this 2.5 to 3.5mm adapter w/ external mic. And it just work GREAT!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...PageName=MERC_VIC_ReBay_Pr4_PcY_BIN_Stores_IT
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Mine arrived this morning, it works, it works!!!
Thankyou.

Should I buy the Atom?

Hi All,
I appreciate all your help with this. I currently own a Magician and love the size factor of the Atom. Is everyone happy with their Atom and would you recommend getting one. I know the new ROM upgrade makes a huge difference in performance speed and such. Also, I read somewhere that the Atom does not have a button lock so you can only have the power on button work(have it in your pocket and not accidentally dial out, that sort of thing) Is this so, and if so has the new Rom upgrades added this feature or is there a way around it.
Thanks so much in advance.
Todd
I also forgot to ask: I have just downloaded the new Windows Vista and there is no longer activesync but a new program. Has anyone had any experience with Vista and will their Atom still sync?
Update the Vista using windows update and you will get the mobile sync function. Does not use activesync anymore. Read this info somewhere here :roll:
You might want to reconsider the Atom. Consider a Prophet or Wizard
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=40441
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=38148
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You might want to reconsider the Atom. Consider a Prophet or Wizard
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Hmm...Why?!Are you used all this devices?I sure that you does not... :wink: Atom better,faster and more usefull (but also more expensive) than both Prophet and wizard.
If you like atom go and get one (or HP 6828 if you like it more),one device that may be better (if you realy need keyboard) and can also be considered its new 9600 (Hermes) - also great device,by far better than 9100 (wizard)
Well the Atom Exec release date is 4th July and it will be retailing for a price of $1130 and that include Bluetooth headset and IR keyboard. so your problem might well be solved, if you dont mind a matte grey case and dont mind paying an extra $280 over the HP then the Exec could be your bet.
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hanmin said:
You might want to reconsider the Atom. Consider a Prophet or Wizard
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Hmm...Why?!Are you used all this devices?I sure that you does not... :wink: Atom better,faster and more usefull (but also more expensive) than both Prophet and wizard.
If you like atom go and get one (or HP 6828 if you like it more),one device that may be better (if you realy need keyboard) and can also be considered its new 9600 (Hermes) - also great device,by far better than 9100 (wizard)
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I have used the K-Jam and the JAmin (Prophet and wizard) and currently having the Atom, can not compare, it is a lot better, faster, and more stable and has got more features. I rarly soft reset it.
I will hold on to it for a while
Atom
Thanks all for your advice,
I did buy the Atom and love it. Far superior to my old Magaician. Its love again!
Todd
Like Todd, I'm looking to upgrade my magician, I was looking at the Hermes, but I don't really want a real keyboard, but the Hermes looked to have all the right functions. Having look around, and getting confused by other brand names this is what I have concluded.
The prophet is the same as the wizard but without a keyboard, so hopefully the Atom is the same as the Hermes but also without a keyboard. I can't find any reviews to confirm my hunch so I hope someone can answer my question or tell me where I can look.
All I want is WM5, built in wifi, and fast (400 Mhz +) processor.
Does Atom have a jog dial like the Hermes?
What type of memory card.
Thanks in advance
fingers88,
the atom is its own brand (not htc) I have had it for over a month now and it rocks. kicks butt on the magician. it
is mini sd and no jog but it is not missed, buy it, you will be glad you did.
Todd
Iam an atom user... have been for 1 month...
and I have fallen in love with it...
it's my mobile buddy... a welcome upgrade from my xda2 since I divorced the love relationship, because it was too damn huge!
I recently dropped it from 5 ft to a stone tiled hotel bathroom and it survived 100%... just like my xda2 has done...
also a great thing about the atom is it hasa notch/hook on the top left corner for a lanyard... it is an ideal size for a lanyard too.
i've some major scratchesonthe plastic... but idont care about them... the screen is finewith a protector.
G

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