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Well it went and happened last night...
While getting out of a car, the belt clip release button got pressed in by my stab-proof vest that I wear for work (this is a design flaw in it's own right, in that any other belt clips like this I have seen, slot the handset 'down' into a channel, and not hang on a hook like the default XDA2 one does - this means that at least then, if the button release becomes pressed, it still needs the device to defy gravity before coming detached - with the XDA2 belt clip, as soon as the button is pressed, as it's just a hook, it falls off).
So my XDA fell just a couple of feet, if that, onto the ground. And even then, it had its standard leather cover on. But of course, the standard cover is less than cr*p, in that it leaves nearly all of the sides exposed!
And now I find I have a slight dent on the side of my previously impeccable XDA2. But worse, slight scuffing or scratching too.
And this is where my issue comes from. With any other device, a rough scratch could be polished out. But with the bl**DY stupid XDA2 material, this is the opposite, in that the normal finish is a brushed, fairly matt aluminium.
But if it gets even slightly scuffed, what actually happens is that it reveals the under layer, and produces in effect, a shiny polished scar. So polishing it is no use at all.
I have owned 28 mobile phones, blackberries, and various other devices in my time. And this is the first device I have ever owned, that has been scuffed beyond apparent easy repair. And worse, I have only owned it a month at most.
I am foaming about this - especially given the series of shortcomings with the device and cover/clip etc, that lead up to this.
But what I need to know now, given that my XDA2 works fine, is this:
Has anyone yet discovered a good way to 'get rid' off minor scratches or scuffs on the material of the XDA2, to cover the shiny material that gets exposed, and leave it with the same sort of brushed matt finish the it normally has, or any paints/primers/touch up cans, that match it?
Please help anyone!
I've attached a photo below, but it doesn't capture it too well, especially as what I HAVE done, is cover it all in lead pencil, then rub it in.
This has reduced a lot of the shine, but of course, this will soon polish off again, so I need a proper solution.
Not sure how to get the dent out, but just get another leather case, a better one than the free one in the box. That should cover the unsightly mark and you won't have to look at it any more. Either that or claim off the insurance if you have it, but then again they may not pay out for cosmetic damage
Some fair advice there mate - cheers.
Only thing is though, you can see it all to well when its on the cradle, and I don't like it cased up too much (both issues of perception I know).
Additionally, I do have insurance, but it's an extension to Home Contents, so my premiums would jump up next year, they would not pay for cosmetic damage, and if I were to even consider a failed ROM upgrade death by pulling power half way through (and I wouldn't dream of that now would I?), then the problem is, the scratches would make it look like the (THEN) failed unit was caused by dropping it.
So I couldn't do a warranty claim, and would be back to the insurance one.
So, given that I can live with the minor dent, has anyone found any cure or solution for scratches, to cover it up back to the original finish of the XDA2?
There must be some solution, paint, primer, filler, or something out there?
Sob sob...
This is funny... I have some scratches too (my XDAII I mean ) but underneath these scratches ale looming some dark material, nothing shiney at least.
I couldn't get rid of the scratches, but polite polishing removed the jagged edges so I won't cut my ear anymore while on the phone.
You could try going for a radical approach and give it a paint job.....either a can of spray silver/aluminium effect, or metallic or matt black - WOW. There are some great effect paints (although less is more in my view).
Use insulation tape (or masking tape) to cover off the screen, buttons, holes etc. You can use the covering as you see fit - you might want to leave some areas (top) silver.....
Hows about getting a dummy XDA II and swapping the cases over?
There is one on ebay at the mo
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4183588276&category=32242
Is it the same real aluminium, and is it difficult to swap over?
Has anyone done this, can give me an idea what is involved?
Although i haven't done it before, i would have thought it was a few torx screws on the back of the case to undo?
Dummy phones are usually proper phones without the internals, usually display models in shops. From my experience the ones in shops are the full casing, just without the inside.
Best thing to do is ask the seller what his is before you bid any money for it. Also ask the conditoin, as if its been mauled in a shop, it could be scratched as well
Ex-display shop ones also usually have some sort of anti-theft bolt through them, which might be less visually appealing than a little scratch on the side. :wink:
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Ex-display shop ones also usually have some sort of anti-theft bolt through them, which might be less visually appealing than a little scratch on the side. :wink:
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Yeah - that's the bit that worried me too...
I'll ask about.
Also, to remove the torx screws, means puncturing a Warranty Void label, which is a bit steep for a scratch.
Oh well...
wats the trouble ... ?
why dun you just get the casing REPLACED?! you had already paied 800usd for your machine ... another 100 bucks will get u a new casing. :idea:
Er no - I paid a mere £120 british pounds (around 150-170 USD?) for it on contract.
And more importantly, as I just put in one of my last posts, that would invalidate the warranty.
So if I HAD paid that much for it, there's no way I would invalidate the warranty for a few scratches.
They bother me a lot, for sure. But spray, or paint, is a bit different to invalidating the warranty on a one month old XDA2.
Cheers for the input though.
your damaged xda2
you can buy a new O2 XDA II Aluminium case athttp://www.mobiledatadirect.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=136_129&products_id=975
ok try that
Er thanks, but that's, well, er, a CARRY CASE, not the phone shell itself mate.
Cheers though.
And the correct link is:
http://www.mobiledatadirect.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=136_129&products_id=975
I noticed the first scratch on the corner of my Jam today. Since electronics always take the most abuse on the corners, I devised a quick and easy way to protect the corners of my Jam while I'm in Europe for the next 3 weeks. Take electrical tape or clear satin tape and place a piece over the corners. Works best if you cut a slit in the tape so you can fold it around the corner without wrinkles. In all probability the device will land on its corners if dropped or take the most abuse on the corners if scraped against something. Thus, problem solved; I did it to my digital camera too. It doesn't look half bad on either device, and if you can't stand the black corners, just use clear tape. Any tape works as long as the adhesive won't stick to the advice after you remove the tape.
damn that's dead sexy :lol:
Damn! Why didn't I think of that????
Why don't you run the tape all the way round? I think it will look somewhat better!... :wink:
I'm sorry, but that has to be the stupidest looking thing I've seen in a long time. Why don't you just get a silicon case for about $10 off of EBAY? I mean, if you REALLY need electrical tape and that's all you can find...great. But just get a cheap latex or silicon case such as the ones from JavoEdge.com.
Do you put electrical tape on the front and rear bumper of your car too?
GHETTOOOOOOO
Just curious, what specifically do you expect to happen in Europe over the next three weeks that would necessitate such a precaution when you don't prepare against similar risks at home :wink: ?
hehehehe... Good point JPreston!!! :lol:
I don't get it! People seem to get very upset when they discover they scratched the ball mirror on the back of their JAM. Now we have a JAM covered in electrical tape. Should we all carry our devices in the original box? Or better yet never use them to keep them in pristine condition? I am not saying I didn't get a little ticked off when I found a nice big scratch in the corner after a small drop but come on! I think we're all getting a bit too precious. Anyway, to each their own.
Of far more concern is the gunk that gets on the screen from my face every time I hold the JAM to my head! I mean yuck! What the heck is up with that? Is there that much oil on my face??? I just washed it! I gave my phone to my friend the other day to make a call and his face left some sort of super oil on the screen that wouldn't scrub off for several minutes! Its gross and embarassing! I think we need some sort of face oil protector!
Does anybody have any idea for cheap screen protection? I think the prices are outrageous for the slices of film sold as protectors.
I use the cheapest of them all...
They are made for Palm devices and are sold on flea markets or "One Dollar" stores... :lol:
They cost $1 dollar the 12 Pack!
Just cut them to size and go!
scratch? i've droped my mini 2 times and got 3 dent edges. damn sad. The stupid casing they gave me is getting pretty loose. I put it on my belt.... so everytime i knock it seems that pouch just flings out. The screw and the plastic seems to have worn off.
I think i'm gonna go to a skinning shop to hide the dent edges.
try to buy a leather case for Nokia 7610. it fits.
You dont use that in the box lether case. It will easily fall of that tiny hook.
Wit the lether case of Nokia, it is mounted sideway into the belt by a leather that is sewed.
mine has never fallen. Even if it falls off the belt when you undress, the leather case is so stiff that it will not dent the mini.
@Emil...
Can you post a picture of your JAM in the Nokia case for us to see?
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scratch? i've droped my mini 2 times and got 3 dent edges. damn sad. The stupid casing they gave me is getting pretty loose. I put it on my belt.... so everytime i knock it seems that pouch just flings out. The screw and the plastic seems to have worn off.
I think i'm gonna go to a skinning shop to hide the dent edges.
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Dropped mine on a concrete floor from about 1.5 meters and got a really ugly dent on one of the corners of the battery cover. The cover wouldn't even go back on!
Easy fixed though. Just took a plastic pen and pushed the dent out from the inside. It still shows a slight dent and small scratches if you look closely, but what the heck...
Anyone know of any metallic paint (model, SKU, UPC code) that I could use on my JAM? I rarely put on my seatbelt, and the one time that I decide to play safe, I scratch up the corner of my JAM. I'd never go "ghetto" as one person put it in the thread, but I'm sure there's something out there to match it up. Any ideas?
Get the jam off of your belt and put it in a proper car holder and you will not only protect it from getting scratches from your seatbelt, you will also get it charged while driving. And also one less reason not to wear a seatbelt that could save your life in the case of an accident.
Incidentally, can anyone recommend a decent car kit for the JAM? I want one I can mount with some amount of ease somewhere on the console... I don't like those ones that stick on the windscreen.
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Incidentally, can anyone recommend a decent car kit for the JAM? I want one I can mount with some amount of ease somewhere on the console... I don't like those ones that stick on the windscreen.
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www.brodit.com
Just don't order it from Expansys as all their product descriptions for Brodit are messed up. Does anyone know where else to buy Brodit because I still need the mounting clip for my car (Expansys kept sending the wrong one). Can you buy from them (Brodit) directly?
Thanks.
I am so upset, i just got my universal on saturday, i have been enjoying it but i could not use it as a phone because i needed to unlock it. I had the damn thing in my pocket and was on a phone call on my other phone in the car, in my front pocket, not back. Got out of the car, walked into the hall and opened it and there it was, A BIG UGLY black gash on the screen, the screen cracked, it just in my pocket!!, closed too! Where can i get this fixed, i am in the states and the phone is not sold here so i don't know here to get it fixed. Please, the LCD liquid has made a dark smere across the left side, i need help, please. Also what is the best case to get, so this does not happen again?
Check Pocket PC Techs. They will replace the screen for you.
how?
Please how do i get to them?
ok
ok, thanks, thats really expensive, ok, what is best case to use for this device?
Broken screen resolution
Ok thank God i don't have to pay over $250 to get my screen fixed. T-mobile Uk agreed to replace it since it was gotten through them. The way this still happened baffels me. I have had my MDA3 for over 6 months and it has fallen about 4 times, and stuff and it still works fine, but the exec screen broke while in my pocket. Strange. My question is that, for people who have an exec, do you leave it in laptop mode or tablet mode most of the time, and have u had to replace yours or do a repair?
Broke my Wizard to, im so damn worried about my universal. Don't got the money over to fix that screen if it's gettin broke, have had almost all pda phones you can get in .se and never cracked any screen but damn qtek ive done it on
I use a krusell case but not because it is the best but because it was the only one available on hand. It cost 29€ here in spain.
Also, I never leave it in tablet mode in my pocket. Always in Laptop mode.
It's only in tablet mode while it's on my desk.
Purchase a metal case. You can keep it in PDA mode and view the screen while inside the case. It also has a belt clip
UD.
Thanks
I pray the second one does not break when it arrives, it is too expensive to fix these things. Can you post a link to the case? i have looked at most of the cases on here, i think i will go with the one for the T-mobile side kick 2, it is cheaper and looks ok. I just need something with a strong belt hook and is well paded, so if it is on my hip and something actually presses on it this time, it will not break.
I must admit , I feel my Unirversal is more vunerable than any other device I have ever owned - can't quit put my finger on why , but I feel as if it wouldn't survive being dropped as well as myXDA, XDAII , s100 , or wizard for that matter !
The XDA / XDAII came with a nice case vertical flip case with a metal plate in the flap - which would be ideal in my eyes , but I have only seen one like that on Ebay for the exec (Via hong kong! ) and I suspect the one you actaully receive may be different (horizontal )
here is the krusell case link:
http://www.krusell.se/product.php?productID=2095&category=7
and here is a metal case link:
http://www.proporta.com/F02/PPF02P05.php?t_id=1355&t_mode=des
hope this helps
I had an XDA 3 and used a metal case. BIG ERROR!
one day the belt clip connector of the case broke and the device fell down, cracking the screen.
For my Mda Pro I ordered one Piel Frama case, which has not only a belt clip but also a fixed belt latch (you can take of original clip and then below) which should not break.
Also this case protects the device from all sides and seems to be thick enough to give it good protection in case of falls.
Details here:
http://www.pielframa.net/prodi.asp?ID=412
case
Replies, thank you all for your reply, i think i will go with a leather case, the metal ones are not attractive. The funny thing is that i just sent the phone back today, now it is gone, and as i got home, i got the unlock code from t-mobile UK!!!. DAMN!! I think i just have a bad luck week.
You can get cheap leather case with all sort of design off Ebay. I got mine from there and the quality is not bad at all
Piel Frama does NOT have a belt clip.
UD.
P.S. Some reviews:
Piel Frama leather case
http://pocketpcdubai.com/i-mate_pielframa/jasjar/review.html
Brando Metal Case
http://pocketpcdubai.com/reviews/brando/metalcases/jasjar/review.html
Proporta Alu-leather case
http://pocketpcdubai.com/reviews/Proporta/cases/jasjar/review.html
@universaldoc
check the link, I posted. I speak about a different Pielframe case. And this one HAS A BELT CLIP.
@BlackICE,
My bad! Thank for you for the correction. I thought you were referring to the standard case.
UD.
Just as an observation, the reason the screen would crack in your pocket would be something sharp hitting it? Could this not be easily solved by always making sure that the side of the HTC with the screen on it always faces towards your leg and not towards the outside? Sounds like an easier option than buying a metal case anyway :?
i usually keep my xda exec in my front pocket ... i'm not really a fan of cases esp. for the htc universals .... somewhat tacky ...
HTC
I had 15 cents in my pocket when it happened but i doubt that had anything to do with, it may have but with the way the coins were, i don't think so. I think maybe cause my knees bent, it stretched my trousers and that caused it (can't stop thinking about that day, ::sob::sob:.
With my MDA3, i always used the case that came with it, i like that, cause the case only holds the device. Thanks for your advice, :wink: i just ordered that ALU-Leather yesterday, but i am thinking it will be uncomfortable answering the phone with that leather all around it. I will see how it works out when it gets here but protection is number one now, i can't keep shipping it back to the UK. To people with cases that house the unit, do you answer the phone with the leather all around the unit or u use bluetooth, or you take it out of the case?
Hello,
i want to change my Ameo in a new one because there are a lot of scratches on the front body. The reason is that the keyboard slipping on the surface of the body.
If any one have the same problem please Post it here because i want to show T- Mobile that this is a failure of construction.
Mine is exactly the same, I tried to take a picture, but it wasnt comming out very well, I was quite annoyed because I tried to keep it good. Does anybody know if this happens with the black ones or is it just silver. mine isnt insured and T-Mobile wouldnt entertain me for insurance because it was 3 months old. though I have heard you can insure it online somewhere.
i've got the same kind of scratches at exactly the same positions.
but i don't think t-mobile will do anything about this
i'ts a normal sign of use
I have some scratches as well, fairly similar to yours. I'll have some pics made if I can get a hold of a good enough camera.
I have a scratch at the bottom of the screen surround. The keyboard clear top has a tiny bump on it (from where it was moulded i think) and this has scratched the case! If it had a decent leather case then it wouldnt happen!
Same here, Same scratches, same area..
Guess we need to find a decent case to carry our precious around in...
Something that has some padding between the 2 parts.
Mine doesn't have this problem. Not a single scratch at all. It still look brand new. I don't use the keyboard or the leather case though. I just carry mine "naked" with my DIY belt pouch. I just have the standard free plastic screen protector over the screen area only and not the body.
This is ironic. The keyboard is supposed to protect but does the opposite.
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This is ironic. The keyboard is supposed to protect but does the opposite.
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It definetely does protect (the screen from cracks).
And imho some scratches on the body of the ameo are much better than a cracked screen
You now, we are speaking about a 800€ all in one device? Such a failure must not happen. If you had a 800€ Notebook with the same problem you would complaine about.
This is what my U1000 looks like close to the VGA camera on the front.
There are 2 more areas where I have some damage but I can't capture it properly on camera.
This is why we should take out insurance on our most expensive phones, as i hate scratches on my phones and if you complain about it with your provider/supplier and they are not willing to replace it when its a manufacture defect then i would personally claim on my insurance QUOTE (MY PHONE IS LOST/STOLEN TO GET BACK A REPLACEMENT) Its too expensive a device for it to scratch so easily.
I have the black HTC Advantage and I have the scratches too.
I have the black Athena and barely any scratches on mine. I use the stock case. The only time I got it scratched is when I first got it because I tried to use it without the case. Mistake on my part.
If you search the forum, you can also buy a $25 solution that protects your entire Athena. It's a plastic transparent covering that protects the entire body of the device. I think I may have posted it in the past to the accessories area. Well worth the tiny investment to protect the looks of your device.
Yep, I have the Black HTC Advantage X7500 and I have no scratches on it. I also do carry naked in my pocket especially around the office to meetings. However, I do feel I need something to protect it without gaining the bulk. I am still looking for a belt clip to carry it.
Just found this product.
http://www.shieldzone.com/item_description/HTCX7500.html
Read good review on PocketPCThoughts for a different product.
Has anyone tried it? It states as full body shield which includes guards for keyboard as well.
Looks Intresting.. But we all know that these type of solution are never as easy to install (Esp. as there are 8 pieces for the Athena)
as they are in the Promo vidz. The vidz also mention that the film has Adhesive on it. How would this affect the deve by:
1. Discoloring over time
2. Being able to easily remove the film, if need or if damaged.
3. Being removed from the screen, without pulling the touchscreen's
touch sensor film off.
Has anybody tried this stuff yet? I think I'll wait for more feedback before I buy.
http://mobilitytoday.com/articles/invisible_shield_protection.html
From some of comments, it seems easy to remove from a pda.
I don't know if that comment was from someone who works for ShieldZone though.
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Just found this product.
http://www.shieldzone.com/item_description/HTCX7500.html
Read good review on PocketPCThoughts for a different product.
Has anyone tried it? It states as full body shield which includes guards for keyboard as well.
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I just ordered one. I'm having it shipped via 3 day UPS. I'll post my thoughts once I try it out. For the cost it's worth a try. They also have a lifetime replacement policy so if they get screwed up you get a free one. We'll see how it goes.
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I just ordered one. I'm having it shipped via 3 day UPS. I'll post my thoughts once I try it out. For the cost it's worth a try. They also have a lifetime replacement policy so if they get screwed up you get a free one. We'll see how it goes.
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I will wait for your feedback before I try one. It seems to be right thing to have with this device but I am not sure yet.
lpsi2000 said:
I will wait for your feedback before I try one. It seems to be right thing to have with this device but I am not sure yet.
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I have it on for over 4 months. Search this very forum for an extensive discussion on it. Easy to install with the water spray bottle provided. The screen protector is a bit sticky so I took it off and used a regular one.
Don't ask any more questions. Just search for the original thread here
Here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298808
....my HD2 arriving tomorrow
so, should i buy some:
screen protectors
leather pouch
anything else useful for it out there?
honestly, screen protector is a waste of money..it's glass.
Insurance.
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....my HD2 arriving tomorrow
so, should i buy some:
screen protectors
leather pouch
anything else useful for it out there?
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1-you dont need a screen protector for the HD2
the screen is s scratch resistance
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcEaehKWr2s
there is other videos than this just search youtube
2-if you like
The screen may be glass, scratch-resistant glass too but the clue is in the name. Scratch-resistant, it's not scratch proof.
I suggest getting some screen protectors but that's just me. What harm can it do? I use a Vikuiti.
I also suggest getting a rubber case and a car holder if you need one. Check out netimes for this stuff.
another phone to send text messages with...
I suggest you buy somthing like InvisibleSHIELD, as my friend pointed out the screen is not scratch proof, also you may want to keep in mind protection of the casing!
Ignore the comments that you don't need a screen protector.
If you want a screen protector then buy one (or a few so you've got spares). There ARE people on here that have scratched their screen, in their pockets, with keys and/or change, so it can happen. It's just quite rare, hence the incorrect comments above.
Mine came with a leather pouch - the official one - and it's great. It was tight as anything when I first used it, but after a couple of days it had loosened up to perfection. It still needs to be pushed out - it won't fall - but it doesn't take a lot to get it out.
If yours doesn't come with one (some don't, unfortunately), there's plenty to choose from. Check the accessories forum where there's ongoing threads with plenty of choices.
Finally, as pointed out by BLAST3RR, GET INSURANCE!!! lol
The screen is definitely not scratch proof, I have some scuff scratches on the top right of my device from my pocket.
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I suggest you buy somthing like InvisibleSHIELD, as my friend pointed out the screen is not scratch proof, also you may want to keep in mind protection of the casing!
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I second the invisibleSHIELD (or similar) solution, covers every panel, wraps around the edges and corners, feels nice to the touch.
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I second the invisibleSHIELD (or similar) solution, covers every panel, wraps around the edges and corners, feels nice to the touch.
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invisible shield was reported to destroy the back metal cover after removing it
insurance, and lot of polystyrene, so you can place hd2 into it..
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invisible shield was reported to destroy the back metal cover after removing it
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I wouldn't be surprised if it was picked at and ripped off, but I recon a little slightly soapy moisture will free it. It sticks using surface interaction rather than by anything glue like, so its just a case of being gentle and adding a lubricant.
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...so its just a case of being gentle and adding a lubricant.
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Oooo errr missus!!
/sorry, couldnt help myself!
thanks for all the replies guys'n'gals
I just ordered some screen protectors and a packet of sock cases for the HD2 (my missus can have the pink one! )
I just rang T-Mobile and added their phone insurance on to my account so im covered the moment i recieve it today!
By the way, i know people have been banging on about the cost of the HD2 as a t-mobile (uk) upgrade, but, i got mine for free, still on 18 month and did not have to change my tarriff (£35 flext 35). RESULT
g.lewarne said:
thanks for all the replies guys'n'gals
I just ordered some screen protectors and a packet of sock cases for the HD2 (my missus can have the pink one! )
I just rang T-Mobile and added their phone insurance on to my account so im covered the moment i recieve it today!
By the way, i know people have been banging on about the cost of the HD2 as a t-mobile (uk) upgrade, but, i got mine for free, still on 18 month and did not have to change my tarriff (£35 flext 35). RESULT
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First of all.You are gonna have a lot of phone with that fun, eeehhhh sorry I meant fun with that phone ;-)
good choice about insurance and screen protectors. About the case/pouch I would still wait and try to get by with the the one delieverd with the device because a new extended battery is announced to be available next month at some point. Once this is out, there will be new pouches/cases due to the extra size. Of course just if you want to keep the option of upgrading the battery ....
Cheers,
LEE
a hat. for when you've pulled all your hair out!