A stupid swapping sims question - JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General

OK, I'm aware asking this question on this forum is going to make me look like a right narner, but I have to, because I don't know the answer.
So for the purposes of this post, I am 6 years old.
I bought a pay-as-you-go O2 Nokia phone for times when I don't want to be lugging around the xda. Now. How do I swap the sim card over without losing the settings/data etc? I have FINALLY managed to back up the phone onto my computer using Active Sync, so I can always put stuff back...but that's not the point. I know a lot of people swap sims with other phones, and I'd like to join the club - without having to spend hours at my computer, cursing and trying to get the phone back to how it was before.
Please be nice, I'm very delicate.
Carol

Assuming that all you need is the contact info on the Universal, try going to Sim Manager on the Program menu.
You should be able to see all the contacts. All you need to do is to select all the contacts from there and set them into the Universal.

now I am going to pretend to be 6. A nokia and xda what do they have in common?
Apart from contacts, settings the xda should have. nokia phone should also have if not. then go to nokia web site and settings can be sent over the air to your phone.
how old is nokia.
which xda?
sorry I need some clarification...

I guess you stored your contact/phone book in your SIM card. That might be the best way if you want the same phone book usable in both phones, your Nokia and the Universal.
Universal, however, use the Contacts application that is synced with Outlook. You mentioned you have exported the content of your SIM card phone book into your Contacts, so you should have no problem of moving around your sim card to both phone. You just have to keep track everytime you add a new entry to your Contacts if you would like to use it in other phone as well. Just remember to make sure the same entry exists in both the SIM card and the Contacts.
Other thing that might get stored in your SIM card as well when used in a Nokia phone is your sms. Universal does not store your sms in your SIM card, however.

Thanks for all the replies. Yes, I've got my contacts stored to my sim card, and I've managed (finally!) to back up the data to my computer, but what I'm more concerned about is the basic setup of the xda. As far as I'm aware (correct me if I'm wrong), once you remove the battery, which you have to do to remove the sim, then the xda loses all its memory and effectively reverts to factory status. So every time you replace the sim, you have to go through all the rigmarole of setting the ruddy thing up again.
This is what's putting me off a bit. I can do it, but I don't want to HAVE to do it every time I want to take a smaller phone out with me.
It's the XDA EXEC and just a little Nokia PAG phone I'm using. I have a feeling I'm going to end up not bothering.

Just an FYI, I have the Qtek 9000 and I swap my card out almost everyday.
I never lose the contacts from the sim card.
Once transferred over, they'll still be there if the sim card is not there.
I believe that the Universal has the ability to maintain memory when the battery is out.

In WM5 ( which is on your Universal), ROM memory is used for storing all your settings, data, apps etc. ROM does not need power to retain the data. Removing the battery therefore is no problem, all your settings, data etc will be there. In WM2003 SE, on Magician etc, RAM is used for storing most apps, data and settings. removing the battery is there the same as hard resetting, therefore losing all your data. of course you can swap the sims, because those WM 2003 SE devices have a built-in back-up battery that gives you 30 minutes at least to swap your SIM or find a charger before the juice is all gone and your device is empty (except for the OS, which is stored in ROM).
Conclusion: taking the battery of your Universal will not kill all your date, even if you leave it off for a month.

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cannot access sms's stored on sim card

hi, ever since i bought my qtek 2020, i realize that i cannot access my messages stored on my sim card, unless i put my sim in another phone. in fact, there's no way to know that there are any messages stored on the sim. i have gone through several hard resets, and even a rom upgrade, but problem still persists, please help
mani
i'm pretty sure it's not supported by 2003 phone edition
not sure if they have plans to make support for it ever
not even sure if the ms smartphones support it
well,
then can you suggest a way to transfer them to my qtek 2020 inbox?
well you could put the sim in another phone and forward sms them to your self and recieve them on your xda with the sim in

Is there any way....

..to retrieve SMS messages unseen by the Magician?
I think this is an software issue.
Reason I ask is this:
I bought a dual sim adapter and after I cut my 2 cards up to make them fit, I both inserted them into an old Nokia 3310 I had lying around. Interestingly enough, I saw SMS messages in my inbox from a few months back I hadnt seen before. So I am 99% sure the software isnt capaturing all events, God knows for whatever reason.
Beside the usual **** you receive via SMS, there were some messages form my girlfriend, so in order to prevent heavy arguments with her in the future due to me not replying (hehe), Id like to know how to fix this.
Oddly enough, after inserting the dual sim adapter into my Magician, they dont show up. They should be on the SIMs somewhere though
any ideas/ help would be great
never heard about any pocketpc phone which supported sms's stored on sim cards
i suspect that the whole api interface is limited to contact info
could be, but then how the fook did this occur in the first place?
Its odd enough like it is
maybe nokia and some others stray'd from the std sim std because sims started to have more and more memory and people dident need that much for contacts
dmmh said:
..to retrieve SMS messages unseen by the Magician?
I think this is an software issue.
Reason I ask is this:
I bought a dual sim adapter and after I cut my 2 cards up to make them fit, I both inserted them into an old Nokia 3310 I had lying around. Interestingly enough, I saw SMS messages in my inbox from a few months back I hadnt seen before. So I am 99% sure the software isnt capaturing all events, God knows for whatever reason.
Beside the usual **** you receive via SMS, there were some messages form my girlfriend, so in order to prevent heavy arguments with her in the future due to me not replying (hehe), Id like to know how to fix this.
Oddly enough, after inserting the dual sim adapter into my Magician, they dont show up. They should be on the SIMs somewhere though
any ideas/ help would be great
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Hi DMMH, sorry to go off-topic, but can you tell me where you bought your dual sim adapter? I cannot find conclusive posts on which types work and yours seems to work fine. Can you switch the SIM by an icon or do you have to turn flight-mode on and off? thanks in advance.
It would be possible to write a prog to read through all SMS records on the SIM card. Can't say I've ever tried it, but if stuff is saved on the SIM, it'll find em!
V
well if you can access the address's of the sim then yes
but you access the sim using some interface in the gsm module
then only if it support it

Cloning the O2 sim for use in another phone

A little off topic, I know, but has anybody been able to use something like this --> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9104458427&sspagename=ADME:L:RTQ:UK:1&rd=1 to make a copy of their Exec's O2 sim for us in another phone for situations where the exec isn't appropriate?
It would be handy to have a second phone for use when I don't want to take the Exec without having to keep swapping the sim.
Cheers,
Steve.
these wont work for the exec, because you will receive a 3g card from o2. this package looks like it will only take standard gsm sims ie 2 and 2.5g. also, i think the new sims in general are not "crackable" at this point.
Doesn't O2 offer this as a LEGAL service?
The SIM in your phone is probably legally defined as O2 property, and they've probably not agreed to copying of their product.
If you read all of the fine print, you'll probably see some stuff about this.
But, yes: It's nice..
2 sims - one number
They're working on it.
The ebay item doesn't claim to be able to actually clone a SIM card though, just backup up or consolidate if you have multiple SIMs.
Re: 2 sims - one number
davebo said:
They're working on it.
The ebay item doesn't claim to be able to actually clone a SIM card though, just backup up or consolidate if you have multiple SIMs.
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No, but if you can select between 16 numbers to use, then surely, it's like copying 16 sims into 1? Even if I were to only copy 1 sim, if it could act as if it were that sim in another phone, then that would do the job.
Cheers,
Steve.
There is a slight problem in all of this. You cannot have to sims logged on using the same MISDN . So all that would happen is the operator would be alerted to the fact that 2 sims were trying to usre the same MISDN and you would be put into the fraud management system and the phone might be disconnected.
When people scan and clone phones they do not use the phone on standby for long periods of time they simply make a few calls and switch off. Unless they time it when the real user is logged on and tries to make a call it is unlikely to be picked up.
Also it will vconfuse the HLR in the gsm network .
So all in all onot a good idea.
Charlie
Hm? Back home in the Netherlands we used to be able to get two SIMs with the same number from our providers... The idea was, you had one in your built-in car phone, and one in your portable handset; when you got out of the car, switch that phone off, and the other one on, and it'll register the other SIM, and hey presto! You could not use both SIMs at the same time, ofcourse.
I bought one, THEN read up on the facts (doh!)
There is no de-cryption algorithm for any SIM cards supplied in the UK over the last 2-4 years. True, the old SIMs could be copied, but the v.2 system cannot.
Still, it is a nice piece of kit for reading your SIM contacts over USB, and didn't cost a fortune.
I'm actually quite pleased that SIMs are this secure, 'cos I wouldn't want them easily copyable by the bad guys.
I bought one, THEN read up on the facts (doh!)
There is no de-cryption algorithm for any SIM cards supplied in the UK over the last 2-4 years. True, the old SIMs could be copied, but the v.2 system cannot.
Still, it is a nice piece of kit for reading your SIM contacts over USB, and didn't cost a fortune.
I'm actually quite pleased that SIMs are this secure, 'cos I wouldn't want them easily copyable by the bad guys.
In the Nehterlands I know that KPN and t-Mobile offer dual sims, the problem is as mentioned here already that you can not use them both at the same time. Also if you have 3G sim the second sim you get is not 3G. those are the rules by KPN.
I used to live in Israel and there Orange gives out dua sims where you can keep both phones on. On the incoming call both phones ring at the same time and you can decide which to pick up. The SMS trafic thought goes to the phone which was turned on first. The way they are doing this is by giving both sims an extra GHOST number which used to start with a Zero. then what they did was simply forward the calls between two sims. They had a huge blunder though: Forwarding officially costs money but in this case it has to be free, so they by mistake on their first couple of bill specifications posted the forwarding calls with Zero as charge, thus I was able to know what are the ghost numbers and call between the phones completely for free. It did mean that the you could call the the ghost numbers only from those 2 phones and not any other phone, kind of internal cirquit. So we enjoyed it very much since my wife and me just used those two phones and comunications between these two was free of charge.
So as you see technicaly it is possible to make both phones ring at the same time....

Backing up SIM to storage card?

I'm just trying to transfer my data from the SIM to storage card as I have just bought a touch cruise. I dont want to do this by swapping the SIMs around with the phones as I've already spent a few hours setting up the touch cruise and it will mess things up. Is it possible to back up the SIM to the storage card so I can transfer that way instead?
Cheers!
James
There are a number of commercial SIM backup solutions available. Do a search here or on Google (SIM Card Recovery), and don't forget the freeware pocketpc software sites; you're sure to come up with some. Not all of them require payment for a license, but the truth of it is, the paid-for versions are often more feature-rich than the free ones.
This wouldn't be the case for all software, but when it comes to backup software (of any kind) it seems to hold true.

SIM Card Swap Issue - PLEASE HELP.

Please I do not know where to post this question for help, but since this is the ROM I am using, I figured I should ask here first.
OK here is my scenario: I had an old sim card I Was using frokm a Company that was later bought by T-mobile. Some of my contacts stayed on the SIM, and I wanted to have them synced with the google contacts so I could get them all together. So I put the old deactivated SIM card back in my old mytouch and imported the contacts into my google account, and then put the New Sim card into the mytouch to get data sync , and get the contacts onto the server. For some odd reason, I put the old SIM into my HD2 (7), and now the phone is deactivated and asking me for the Activation code.
Mind you, this does nto scare me because I have my activation code. What scares me is that my emails are gone, text are all gone,, and most things are greyed out.
Is this a Security Feature by Windows Phone 7? If so, how do I recover my texts especially back? There business documents, contacts, all that gone.
PLEASE PLEASE HELP.
Put the card you used to set up WP7 back into the phone and all should be well. WP7 uses the card as core RAM and does not distinguish between card and phone storage. If I understand you correctly, you have effectively taken away a big chunk of the phone's OS and replaced it with an empty (for the purposes of WP7) card.
Reactivate the phone and maybe you will be fine. I guess this is an anti theft feature of WP7. Go to your live account on your PC and check the status of the phone.
Gustopher said:
Put the card you used to set up WP7 back into the phone and all should be well. WP7 uses the card as core RAM and does not distinguish between card and phone storage. If I understand you correctly, you have effectively taken away a big chunk of the phone's OS and replaced it with an empty (for the purposes of WP7) card.
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I did not mes with the SD Card. It is the SIM Card that I messed with.
TheOnly1 said:
Reactivate the phone and maybe you will be fine. I guess this is an anti theft feature of WP7. Go to your live account on your PC and check the status of the phone.
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I would have thought that should work, and that it how it should be, but NO. The phone wiped out everything. Including my Music. This is a feature that is badly implemented. What if someone has 2 SIM cards and they travel out of the country and want to switch sims? So, it just wipes out all their Data?
I am so sad at this point I don't know how to feel. None of those texts were even backed up anywhere, including my created documents.
well that's odd, I have two sim cards from a different provider that I swap quite frequently and they work just fine
Just tested a SIM swap and it works on my HD2 too. Seems your problem is different.

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