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hi
I have a touch pro and would love to change to the HD...IF the battery life on a touch HD is good enough.
I've read its good on 3G phone reception, but if I wanted just a phone I'd buy something cheap and small. I want to surf the web,watch movies, use tomtom.
Simple question; if the phone is charged to 100%, then I watch a movie lasting 2 hours, what will be left in the battery, if anything? I'm hoping someone with the HD already can help me
thanks to anyone who can answer this and apologies if its already been answered...I couldn't find it anywhere
Good question... I've not done that, but I have had it running with the wi-fi enabled for about an hour and 45 minutes whilst surfing the web and using the YouTube application. It didn't run down more than about 20 percent?
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Good question... I've not done that, but I have had it running with the wi-fi enabled for about an hour and 45 minutes whilst surfing the web and using the YouTube application. It didn't run down more than about 20 percent?
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i got the device, charged the battery and played around with it for some hours. tested the gps watched the small movie which is on the HD some times, used opera an wlan, looked at weather and stocks and played around with the interface and programs some more. sending sms emails, and doign a call. with bluetooth
then i left it on my table from 23:30 to 9 in the morning, stood up and played around with it until 11.
battery status: 90%
Any chance there will be a 1500mAh battery for the HD? Or is there already one out there?
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Any chance there will be a 1500mAh battery for the HD? Or is there already one out there?
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My guess is Mugen will provide one sooner or later.
wow! many thanks everyone. that sounds really positive
I did a little test of my own today. I left the Bluetooth, Data connection and Wi-Fi on whilst it played the 2 pre-loaded videos on repeat in Full Screen. The brightness was on default, the dimming backlight was disabled and the sound was at about 2%. I didn't have a way to check the percentage of the battery, so I just counted the bars. Fully charged, it has 10 bars.
After one hour of playing to itself, the battery had gone down to 8 pieces. After another half hour, it was down to 7 pieces. After a total of two hours after the repeat had been begun and everything turned on, it was still on 7 pieces. So yes, you can watch a 2 hour film, then blog about it, then call a mate on a video-call to chat about it before taking pictures of things that were around you as you watched!
A bit extreme, maybe, but it will last.
that's pretty nice battery life what kinda battery is in there account i wonder if that will be the same for a touch hd pro (i know i'm a dreamer)
i got it this morning, and kept using it WITHOUT recharging it up to now!
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So yes, you can watch a 2 hour film, then blog about it, then call a mate on a video-call to chat about it before taking pictures of things that were around you as you watched!
A bit extreme, maybe, but it will last.
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LOL so true
SO i think the BAttery life is really good....
One less worry
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My guess is Mugen will provide one sooner or later.
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Thanks for the advice.
And does someone know if there will be a seller in switzerland/germany?
Or what such a battery could probably cost?
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Thanks for the advice.
And does someone know if there will be a seller in switzerland/germany?
Or what such a battery could probably cost?
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No need to worry about availability... they offer free intarnational shipping
As for the estimated cost.....
Thats good news!!!
So looking forward to a 3000mAh Battery for my new "preciousssssss"
Hope wont cost more than 100$...
There is a problem with our battery life and we all know its true... I have even been given a new battery and HTC mains charger
I turn off any service im not using at the time (ie: wifi, BT, GPS, NETGPS,etc) not that I should have to do this, but lets story on track...
My battery will make about 1 day as I am A "power user" but if its not plugged in I wont have the juice for my alarm to wake me up, my wifes Sony Ericsson lasts 4-5 days per charge, but lets not compare apples and oranges, the whi-phone 3g my sister has sahe bought it about the same times as my g1, she hadn't ever heard of "deep cycling" 2-5 times when you get a new phone, she never lets it discharge fully and just tops off all the time, AFAIK she is treating a NIMH cell exactly the wrong way, BUT SHE GETS 1-3 DAYS depending on the type of use, and never turns off ANY of the 3g, gps, net gps, wifi, BT nada and Id say she uses hers alot because its her primary camera, GPS & A/V player
my question is WHY?
Im sure there must be somebody involved with the development of this phone/OS that reads thru here, since there is more exciting stuff coming from XDA than there is the market...
Im gonna add a poll that pertains to battery use...
I wanted to add one very negative one but hit submit not preview, maybe just post and dont vote if none apply..
they better come off a new battery almost all other new phones will get 1-2 day + average use, Ive had phones that could go 3-4. but the state of the art G1 mindblowing innovative phone wont even work a whole day, so what if its bigger than the whi-phone, it has no keyboard.
I for one would like to hear some solid info on a replacement battery and back, for new and existing G1 users, early adopters got the fuzzy end of the lollipop on the HTC->headphone jack adapter I got the headphones with the htc angled adapter from fleabay, so many manufactures stick it to the early adopter, when we are the ones that get the word of mouth going, as people go "WOW that thing is cool!,what is it?! they know when we bought out phones and should be able to figure out when the head phone rev change was made, so send them to the first of the buyers....
IF the battery issue isnt fixed, alot of people will be very angry and the g1 will flop.
I think the bad press is starting to out weigh the good press the G1 and possibly android as a whole is at a crossroad. If the g1 tanks Android will be stained forever...thankfully enuff I dont think XDA-DEV would give up on this badboy, I love this thing, and I love it for what it can be
BhanG
Well stated sir.
HTC/Google need to fix battery problems in G1. Maybe it's soft bug, but maybe it's a hardware bug - Nobody knows
I dunno. With normal use, I get about 12 hours or more from my stock battery. That's about the same as other HTC phones I've had.
there is a battery issue and we are al aware of it.
i have managed to have it last through out the day
just set the brightness to the lowest possible, sleep time to 15 secs
turn off data and wifi and anything else that you are not using
its not how the phone was intended to be used, but it's what i ave to do for now
I find it fine for everyday use. Of course I haven't done a full test but maybe tomorrow I will.
I would like to use my G1 like I use my WinMo but no way I can with the battery.
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IF the battery issue isnt fixed, alot of people will be very angry and the g1 will flop.
I think the bad press is starting to out weigh the good press the G1 and possibly android as a whole is at a crossroad. If the g1 tanks Android will be stained forever.
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I think you're exaggerating here a little bit. The battery life, while it got press at first, has faded from the limelight of android news for the general population. The G1 is already far from a flop and I don’t think there’s going to be a sudden mass return of all the handsets sold.
Let’s face it living on the cutting edge means you will get cut sometimes. Your high expectations will not always be met and manufacturers will frequently not care. The battery life is less than what many people expected, but we’ve learned to deal with it. At least we have options (power management, backup batteries, and expanded capacity batteries), but I’d not hold my breath on HTC making any major moves. How long has the issue been going with the TYTN II drivers anyway?
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BUT SHE GETS 1-3 DAYS depending on the type of use, and never turns off ANY of the 3g, gps, net gps, wifi, BT nada
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I have no idea what kind of use gets 1-3 days, but it certainly isn't 3G web browsing. Most iPhone 3G battery life tests clock 3G data use at about 3-5 hours. Based on my own usage of a friend's iPhone 3G, that seems to be about right. Coincidentally my G1 gets about 3-5 hours of 3G data use as well.
Frankly, from an engineer's point of view I have not seen any power drain tests conducted with enough rigor and variable control to be worthy of being called a truly scientific analysis. Even the best "battery life tests" out there aren't declaring what type of testing environment (los and distance to closest 3G tower), what background apps are installed, ambient temperature (which affects the battery discharge profile), etc. Without considering and removing these variables from the test, deviation could be as high as... well there's no fixing the percentage really. It's all just junk data.
I do notice after I installed Task Manager, to close out programs I am not using my battery life went up. There are a lot of un needed start up apps.
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There are a lot of un needed start up apps.
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Care to give some examples? Im curious to see what runs on startup that isnt needed.
QUOTE jashsu
I have no idea what kind of use gets 1-3 days, but it certainly isn't 3G web browsing. Most iPhone 3G battery life tests clock 3G data use at about 3-5 hours. Based on my own usage of a friend's iPhone 3G, that seems to be about right. Coincidentally my G1 gets about 3-5 hours of 3G data use as well.
Yep my friend has iphone and we did test last weekend, both went 3 hours and change then died. If i dont use internet and set timeout and brightness down plus use task manager mine will go as long as my dash. I personally dont care about the battery life, i have a computer, home charger and car charger and i drive for a living so if it gets low no biggie. In my opinion i dont see android going anywhere and i love the g1. Just like wm its gonna take time to get off the ground. To say its at a crossroads is ridiculous.
I am using ADP1.1 and yea if I am browsing the net with 3G for 3-5 hours straight I start seeing the battery go down. But from 100% to 0% takes me longer than 5 hours. I know because I like to lay in bed and don't care to come check my messages LOL
I bought a G1 last week and so far I have been really dissapointed. After having an elf and seeing other htc phones I was expecting big things from the G1.
I am now a week into ownership and after 5 full charge - discharge cycles I am managing to get 24 hours out of the phone with next to no use what so ever. If i check my emails and do 30 mins browsing the phone is dead in 6 or less.
The hardware is simply put 'very poor' my screen is wobbly and the back is loose, all this after just a week.
As for android, it is fantastic everything I expected (except hotmail support) and there is no way it is going to flop. Its just a shame that google and htc didn't wait until they had the right phone for the job.
Thats just my 10p worth!!
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Care to give some examples? Im curious to see what runs on startup that isnt needed.
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It all depends on what you have installed. for me the start up is. I beleve amazon does too, but I uninstalled that. But the first thing I do is go into task manager and kill everything. And only like two things auto start up. I really with HTC built in a x-button app for android. I loved the click x for close.
myFaves
messaging
voice dialer
calendar
Alarm clock
k-9
woot checker
tunewiki
gmail
Under light usage I get about 36 hours from full charge to shutdown. That's GPS on, Bluetooth on, Autosync on, periodically doing e-mail and web browsing.
Under heavy usage (Which is basically I listened to MP3s for 2 hours) it goes at least 17 hours before I plug it back in. I haven't tested but I'd bet it could go 20 or more.
That's as good as (or better) than I was getting on the Wizard/MDA.
I dunno if anyone has stated it but the problem with the battery has to do with the phone recieving the cell signal. For some reason the phone runs in overload when searching for a cell signal...I noticed this one day when T-Mo suspended my service and my battery meter never moved all day, I think by night it was down to 85-90%...sure enough that night when I paid my bill and the phone started picking up signal again, the battery depleted at "normal" speed.
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This extended battery barely increases the size of the phone...
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so exactly how much is "barely"? care to give side by side comparison shots?
dubstar_04 said:
As for android, it is fantastic everything I expected (except hotmail support) and there is no way it is going to flop. Its just a shame that google and htc didn't wait until they had the right phone for the job.
Thats just my 10p worth!!
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Why do i keep hearing that there is no hotmail support? Android (and G1) works with hotmail just fine! Just go to the Email program and set it up. WHY!! .. I am having connection errors sometimes though..
Battery is a big issue. Never had any luck with it.. EVER.. just unplugged it and after about 1+ hour it's down to 66%. Played a game (slide puzzle) watched 2 youtube vids of about 3 minutes each. And I had it fully drained and recharged a couple of times in the beginning. It didn't even took 10 minutes to drop from 100% to 89%.. But I was on wifi.. Maybe this is normal.
Software has a lot to do with this I think. Yesterday I had about 50-60% left. Did something, can't remember what, opening programs or music. And closed it. After 5 minutes I checked and battery was hot and had drained to orange level. I checked with task manager and only calendar/messaging/tunewiki/music was on. I closed all and restarted the phone, cuz it was still hot. Luckily it lasted a few hours till I got home, with very carefull use..
If you just wanna see my tips then skip over the next few paragraphs lol!
Hi! I am not sure if this exactly has been posted already, or if it's common knowledge and I am just slow lol, but the last couple days I found out how to maximize the battery life on my phone by (imho) a huge amount. And I wanted to share with the community.
So before I did this, I'd generally get maybe six to eight hours of uptime before the battery was critically low. This was really frustrating because by the time I got home from work my phone would be almost dead. So I'd charge it in my car for a little bit, but then when I went out I'd have to turn off Wifi, GPS, Bluetooth, brightness all the way down etc. just to have enough battery to survive the night.
But now I managed to get 18-24 hours out of a single charge, without having to manually touch the settings too too much (GPS/Bluetooth when I need them.) Now I think a lot of this depends on your personal usage, but for me this worked great. And here is how I did it:
1. Disabling/making less frequent updates in apps. For me this was Twidroid, Facebook, and NewsRob. I realized that I keep notifications off for these apps (I don't need to see a notification everytime someone I follow tweets you know?) and that even when they were all set to auto-refresh every 30 minutes or whatever, I STILL always hit refresh when I went in anyway. So I disable automatic updating. Obviously this depends on your usage, but for me, I didn't need up to the minute social networking information, and manually refresh anyway. But I went through all my apps that updated automatically and changed the setting.
2. Task Killing. In a perfect world, Android would efficiently manage it's own app load, but unfortunately the world isn't perfect. I found that if I know I'm going to be putting my phone down for a while, take a second and kill all the runnings apps. I use Astro, but there are countless apps that can do this for you. This is something I don't do frequently, but for example, if I'm going to go to bed and I don't have my charger, but want my phone on in case of an emergency, I'll kill all the running apps.
3. Brightness. After weeks of changing it back and forth because I don't really love the way it auto adjusts, I just said f**k it and put in auto. While sometimes the level of brightness it selects seems a little whack, it's definitely saved battery life. And saves me the trouble of changing it myself. I also found that setting the timeout to 15 seconds seemed to improve battery life.
4. Juice Defender. You can find this app on the marketplace. It has two modes, easy and advanced. If you want, you can go into the advanced and set schedules and all kinds of stuff. But for me, I just went into easy and hit enable. From what I understand, what this does is that if the screen is off, it disables network access for 14 minutes, turns it back on for 1, then off again for 14 etc. So, something like Gmail which is push will only be able to access the network every 15 minutes. Unless you are on WiFi. Now, if you NEED push e-mail and don't have WiFi, this isn't a very good solution. But according the stats in the app itself this has given me a 99% increase in battery life, and I believe it.
5. The trackball. This is perhaps the weirdest of my findings. The trackball light apparently can DESTROY the battery life. The other morning at around 80% I let my alarm on the phone go off and didn't stop it, so the trackball was flashing really fast. Without a couple hours the phone was completely dead. Nuts right? So I found that if I disable the trackball light when I know that I won't be able to dismiss my notifications quickly (like in a meeting or sleeping or whatnot) I'm able to avoid this happening.
6. GPS/Bluetooth. Again, this might seem very case specific, but I use bluetooth ONLY with my rokr headset when I'm on campus at night, and I use GPS only for navigation. So I keep the off when I'm not using them. With the power strip widget this isn't very difficult.
Anyway, that's it really. Like I said, maybe this is all common knowledge and I am just stupid haha. But I figured if not, I was pretty thrilled to go from 6 hours to 24 hours without having to do too much. BTW, some weird things I found didn't have an effect as much as I thought they would - 2g/3g, I actually got MORE battery life when I had 3g enabled. And WiFi was the same way, even when I didn't have a wifi connection, the difference in life with having it on or off was negligible.
Anyway, I hope this is helpful! If I remember anything else I'll add it.
I really like this guide and I'm going to use it when I get my n1. I like all (and will try) of the steps except #5.. the trackball notifications is just too sweet to ever turn off imo. Thanks for the guide.
I'm really surprised to hear that your LED light in the trackball destroyed your battery life
I don't bother killing apps anymore. Since they're not in focus their not using the CPU so whats the point. (right?)
I dont have rubbish notifications on either, nor bluetooth/GPS unless needed. Ive got auto brightness on too.... might try juicedefender in future actually, it does sound good.
So what did you triple your battery life from anyway... 12 hours?
cymru said:
So what did you triple your battery life from anyway... 12 hours?
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only about 6-8 hours.
crachel said:
I'm really surprised to hear that your LED light in the trackball destroyed your battery life
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I was too but I duplicated that scenario a few times to make sure. Also, it might matter that I am running trackball succession and color hacks.
Trackball succession is killing your battery, not the trackball light.
only about 6-8 hours.
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Oh....
Mines gets over 48 hours no problems anyway.
cymru said:
Oh....
Mines gets over 48 hours no problems anyway.
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Geez, whats your secret?
ChillRays said:
Geez, whats your secret?
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I second that, holy crap lol.
cymru said:
Oh....
Mines gets over 48 hours no problems anyway.
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!!! Were you hit by lightening as a child or something? I can only conclude your natural charge is keeping it going :->
Also - OP - nice set of tips - thanks
cymru said:
Oh....
Mines gets over 48 hours no problems anyway.
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Wow... I only get that good of a battery life if I turn my N1 off!
Are you guys being serious?!
I am indeed consistently getting 48 hours battery life...
cymru said:
Are you guys being serious?!
I am indeed consistently getting 48 hours battery life...
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48 is on the high side of things... I usually go to bed with about 40% remaining, and put it on the charger overnight... I get up at 8AM and go to bed around 12AM. So I am getting about 26 hours out of mine.
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Accidently typed in 36 when I meant to type 26. Fixed.
I have a noob question, which this forum is how I get most of my N1 knowledge...
Which uses up more battery life, 3G or wifi?
Thanks to whoever replies.. (my best guess would be 3G)
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48 is on the high side of things... I usually go to bed with about 40% remaining, and put it on the charger overnight... I get up at 8AM and go to bed around 12AM. So I am getting about 36 hours out of mine.
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That's actually 26 hours.
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That's actually 26 hours.
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Which is still a lot. I'd really like to know how you are doing this. Do you make any voice calls? Do you text/e-mail a lot? Watch videos? Browse the web? Play music etc.?
I mean my usage is based on maybe an hour a day of talking on the phone, and a few hundred text messages, maybe a couple e-mails, frequent twitter/Facebook updates, and maybe a couple hours a day of playing games, watching videos, reading news etc.
I imagine if I just left the phone there it'd be close to 26-30 hours, but not with regular use.
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I don't bother killing apps anymore. Since they're not in focus their not using the CPU so whats the point. (right?)
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Erm, this is not correct, is it?
The whole point of multitasking means things still carry on when not in focus. If you leave everything running, they will all try and use data and CPU cycles, no?
Some nice suggestions there c0wb0ycliche! Thanks.
A couple of other thoughts/suggestions...
1. In the choices of kernels, pershoots is regarded as being excellent with battery life (partly from being undervolted I imagine) and the fact it's also overclocked at the same time ain't so bad either.
2. Not sure how much extra juice is saved by not using a Live Wallpaper, but if we're talking about battery savings here it might as well be said.
I would not be surprised if a large majority of people who get 25+ hrs hook onto wifi networks for a majority of the data usage. When switching to wifi the phone steps down to 2g mode for phone services.
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Erm, this is not correct, is it?
The whole point of multitasking means things still carry on when not in focus. If you leave everything running, they will all try and use data and CPU cycles, no?
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No. Some applications have sister services that do this, but not all applications.
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1. In the choices of kernels, pershoots is regarded as being excellent with battery life (partly from being undervolted I imagine) and the fact it's also overclocked at the same time ain't so bad either.
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Good point, has anyone mentioned SetCPU? If you set up a profile, it will lower your clock speed to 300mhz while the screen is off. Saves quite a bit of power.
I wrote HTC about some of the problems we have been having with the EVO, namely battery life. Here is the response I just received:
htc said:
Dear XXXX XXXXXX,
Dear XXXX, HTC and Sprint are taking steps to improve observed battery life. HTC is developing a number of handset software optimizations that are expected to increase device operating times. These updates are expected to be available as part of software pushes scheduled for later this summer. As with any software development effort, we cannot provide an exact date. Additionally, Sprint is working to optimize 4G network settings to improve battery life for customers in 4G markets. I will be happy to go over various setting with you that will help extend the battery life. Traditionally WiFi, GPS, Bluetooth, and display brightness all greatly impact battery performance. With Android 2.1 another feature that can kill your battery are the Live Wallpapers. If you’re using Live Wallpaper just turn if off. Adjust the Brightness of the display (Menu | Settings | Sound & Display | Brightness). By default it is set to auto adjust but you can manually adjust it down. Consider adjusting the display timeout (Menu | Settings | Sound & Display | Screen Timeout). The default value is 1 minute but you can reduce it to as low as 15 sec but 30 seconds. By default your HTC Incredible vibrates every time you press a key. Turn it off by un-checking the box ‘Vibrate when typing’. Menu | Settings | Language & Keyboards | Touch Input | Text Input | Vibrate when typing. If Facebook, Twitter, MySpace, Email, App Updates, or many other things are constantly popping notifications, consider turning some of them off as notifications do impact battery performance; This is done in each app. To also help with Battery Life you can do these steps exactly: 1) Turn your device ON and Charge the device for 8 hours or more 2) Unplug the device and Turn the phone OFF and charge for 1 hour 3) Unplug the device Turn ON wait 2 minutes and Turn OFF and charge for another hour Your battery life should almost double, we have tested this on our devices and other agents have seen a major difference as well. HTC has received some reports regarding this issue with the screen seperation, and are currently analyzing the potential causes. Most customers are not reporting any issue related to this problem. The issue appears to be cosmetic and should not affect the operation of the device. Additional information will be provided after we finish our investigation of the issue. If you have any other questions or concerns please Reply back to this email or give us a call at our HTC Technical Support Line, 1-866-449-8358. I want to thank you for contacting HTC. In order to help improve our service I’d like to invite you to take a survey at http://survey.htc.com/worldwide, you can also checkout http://shopamerica.htc.com/homebrands/index.htm for more information. HTC Technical Support http://www.HTC.com http://www.Facebook.com/HTC http://www.YouTube.com/user/HTC http://www.Twitter.com/HTC
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Interesting! I'm going to try that so called battery doubling trick asap!
2nd reply from HTC below
htc said:
Dear XXXX, The EVO 4G and the Incredible are having the same issues with the battery, I do apologize for saying Incredible, but I didgive the correct answer. This battery charging regimine is a one time operation, if you need to do this more than once a month, I would talk to Sprint about a replacement battery, but with the batteries we are looking into the issue further. We are not sure why this works, we like our customers have the HTC phones and were looking into forums and found this and it worked on all of our agents batteries, they all gained about 10 hours of battery life with regular use. We have also, tested how long the batteries take to charge and yes, this battery takes about 4 hours to charge, we are looking into this, but it is not an issue that will harm anything. You should be able to charge your battery while sleeping and you should not have a problem with the battery lasting all day, but again we are looking into the battery situation. With the Micro USB cables, most should work, but we recommend HTC Micro USB cables. You can go to shopamerica.htc.com or http://www.yourwirelesssource.com/do/search/searchProduct?search=PCD for accessories for your EVO 4G. If you have any other questions or concerns please Reply back to this email or give us a call at our HTC Technical Support Line, 1-866-449-8358. I want to thank you for contacting HTC. In order to help improve our service I’d like to invite you to take a survey at http://survey.htc.com/worldwide, you can also checkout http://shopamerica.htc.com/homebrands/index.htm for more information. HTC Technical Support http://www.HTC.com http://www.Facebook.com/HTC http://www.YouTube.com/user/HTC http://www.Twitter.com/HTC
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Ok, this battery charging trick has helped big time! I've been unplugged for 5 hours now and I'm at 80%. usually my battery dies at 6 hours. I just noticed my phone is not sleeping. wonder why that is? anyone know how to find out? wonder if it could be nimbuzz or k9 mail preventing it. I'm guessing the battery life would be really good if the phone would actually sleep.
edit: yup, it was nimbuzz, my IMing program preventing the phone from sleeping. damn, i need an IM program that supports push!! facebook push would be nice also.
The ****? LOL
Will try this.
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The ****? LOL
Will try this.
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I know right.. but hey if it works, i will be a very happy Evo owner! I'm just wondering if this is something you have to do over and over again. sure hope not!
That's basically like the fix that another user here on suggested. Charge the phone fully while on then turn it off, then unplug it. Once the light turns off plug it back in, It will then start charging again anywhere from 1 minute to 5 min when the green light is back on unplug it and do it all over again do this for about 10 times then turn on your phone and your battery life will be considerably longer.
be sure to post your results! i've never heard of this, but that'd be great if it worked. i'll have to give it a try as well later when i get home. good work OneStepAhead!
then wave your phone in a figure eight for 10minutes while on, then a circle for 5 minutes while off, then on again and you will have Froyo installed.
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then wave your phone in a figure eight for 10minutes while on, then a circle for 5 minutes while off, then on again and you will have Froyo installed.
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I LOL'd at that for real.
And umm am I the only one that noticed her saying "By default your HTC Incredible vibrates every time you press a key" FAIL!
Here is the original post on this technique and I CAN confirm it works. You do have to do it every time though to get the maximum battery life every time. I can get at least 15 hours of usage if I'm not using it for movies or music.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701567
Hmm, very curious.
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then wave your phone in a figure eight for 10minutes while on, then a circle for 5 minutes while off, then on again and you will have Froyo installed.
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LMFAO. made my day xD
Geniusdog254 said:
And umm am I the only one that noticed her saying "By default your HTC Incredible vibrates every time you press a key" FAIL!
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I noticed that too. So now we know that the Incredible is getting optimization updates this summer what about the Evo?
I'm hoping that is a one time thing to charge all the cells. I get pretty decent battery life now, so I'll have to give that a try when I can find time to keep my phone off for 2 hours.
Will be looking forward to see your results.
If this is something they expect users to do regularly that is just downright ridiculous.
I'd be very interested to hear what their technical explanation behind the charging dance is. Could you reply to them and get some more information?
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then wave your phone in a figure eight for 10minutes while on, then a circle for 5 minutes while off, then on again and you will have Froyo installed.
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I've been doing this for the past three hours.. It's not working! What am I doing wrong? Can someone please point me to a youtube video showing how to do this properly?
$1.50 to anyone that does... I really want froyo
THANKS!
Definitely going to try this. I'm guessing the "battery is full" circuitry is falsely detecting a full charge and cutting off the full charging current and just leaving it to trickle charge. Doing this procedure repeatedly tricks that circuitry to allow more and more of a charge while also updating the batterystats.bin file to reflect the battery is accepting more of a charge.
But that's purely from minor electronics experience, not sure if there's any other android or htc-specific factors at work here.
Oh, and...
EVO'D_OUT said:
then wave your phone in a figure eight for 10minutes while on, then a circle for 5 minutes while off, then on again and you will have Froyo installed.
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wave it in a reverse figure eight and then reboot and the kernel source will be released.
sweteg said:
I'm hoping that is a one time thing to charge all the cells. I get pretty decent battery life now, so I'll have to give that a try when I can find time to keep my phone off for 2 hours.
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This is what I''m wondering, the ol' one timer. If not, I dunno.
Albaholic said:
I've been doing this for the past three hours.. It's not working! What am I doing wrong?
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Whoa there!! Don't repeat the procedure, you could brick your device!
ramiss said:
Whoa there!! Don't repeat the procedure, you could brick your device!
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Whew! Thanks! Dodged a bullet there.
I am a bit disappointed in HTC.
I mean FFS, if your logo is on a phone and the battery in it, at least set it up so we don't have to do charging aerobics to get the battery full.
It seems like they cut corners somewhere..
EDIT: One part that made me particularly rage is this.
Your battery life should almost double, we have tested this on our devices and other agents have seen a major difference as well.
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Oh so this whole time we've been charging our phones halfway??
Why does it seem like they're in our situation, trying random crap to get things working they way they should.
This should not be a damn issue, HTC should be ON this.
If the battery is capable of holding twice as much life per charge then we should be reaping the benefits already, not running around like headless chickens and doing backflips for an extra hour or two..
Sorry for ranting but it just seems like they dont give a fuh
I rescind some of what I said, the second response clarifies that they are working on it, and at least you only need to do this charging method once a month..
Not sure what I expected I guess. I found these glasses much more fascinating before I got them. People stare at you when you show up with them. Some are intrigued, some want you to remove them with dealing with you. What I have found is they are a better attachment to my S5 than my Gear 2 watch. Love the heads up text display, etc.
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Not sure what I expected I guess. I found these glasses much more fascinating before I got them. People stare at you when you show up with them. Some are intrigued, some want you to remove them with dealing with you. What I have found is they are a better attachment to my S5 than my Gear 2 watch. Love the heads up text display, etc.
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Does it have a recording feature why persons want u to remove it before dealing with them?
Does it really cost $1500 us?
Apart from what u stated, do u love the device?
Dvyn said:
Does it have a recording feature why persons want u to remove it before dealing with them?
Does it really cost $1500 us?
Apart from what u stated, do u love the device?
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Yes, you can take pictures and video with it. It is $1500. Aside from all of that, I do like it so far.
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Yes, you can take pictures and video with it. It is $1500. Aside from all of that, I do like it so far.
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Great to hear, been watching a lot of video reviews on it n I must say it is a good device am jus t not into wearable tech just yet. I think we are getting there but not in the sense that Google is trying... And for 1500 bucks I think we should get at least a spare
Drain the battery completely and then charge it completely a few times. Mine lasts all day.
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Drain the battery completely and then charge it completely a few times. Mine lasts all day.
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I thought this was a bad idea to do with newer batteries? Notably, either keeping the battery charged at 100% for extended periods (some devices charge to 100% and then let the battery drop down to like 97% then re-charge), or draining it all the way down to/near 0%.
I have heard that as well. In the case of Glass, I got decent battery life the first day or two, but on the third day I took it off of the charger and it reported <10% a few minutes later. Half an hour later it shut itself off and I plugged it in and left it plugged in for the day. I haven't had an issue since; it now lasts me from 5am to 10pm every day.
Others in the Explorers forum report the same "fix" and swear by it.
Be careful to leave it on when charging
Glass, like other devices that use the same technology, need a few full charge-discharge cycles to reach full battery lifetime.
Glass also has the crazy property that they will not charge if they are completely turned off and shut down. Make sure the LED is flashing when you expect them to be charging!
actually, how long you can use that google glass? it suposed to be a day without charging?
I got 4 pairs of glass for $50 because of the home try out program lol. The battery life isn't good however at the same time it's mainly because you can't shut off wifi or Bluetooth without installing glass control
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My battery seemed to last all day. I would go get that checked.
Firware updates
When I was on version 13.x I could go all day no problem. Ever since then I can go about half day. Its software so I'm now worried.
Same here.
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Might be that they are still in dev? Just my opinion.
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I actually bought mine in India and it last for a day and half.
XxCyberHackerxX said:
I got 4 pairs of glass for $50 because of the home try out program lol. The battery life isn't good however at the same time it's mainly because you can't shut off wifi or Bluetooth without installing glass control
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Wait how'd you get 4pairs for $50?!?
Google glass try out program
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So how much the battery holds? I'm planning to buy Google Glass once I get my savings ready lol
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C410s said:
So how much the battery holds? I'm planning to buy Google Glass once I get my savings ready lol
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I know that Google initially estimated a battery life of 1 day for 'typical' use, but I suppose that can vary considering not everyone’s "day" is typically the same As we all know, many hi-tech devices, can have a touchy battery life, some which seem surprisingly low for this day and age and some that hold up rather well, regardless of how often we use them. So perhaps it could possibly depend upon the initial charge and/or overall treatment of the device and battery? Also, I believe they did an upgrade to the operating system earlier this year that included improving the battery life, and from what I’ve heard, it’s a bit better than it was before!
how long does the battery last?
feverdoingwork said:
how long does the battery last?
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Mine lasts over 20 hours.