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I got this email from o2 asia.So may be we don't have a chance to up wm2003 with final release from o2,how about qtek does anybody know about it?
O2's position on Pocket PC 2003
O2 Asia will not be deploying the Pocket PC 2003 upgrade. The Pocket PC 2003 upgrade is subject to the original design of the hardware and the level of integration of the device, particularly between the phone and pda functions. The O2 xda was not designed to support Bluetooth and Wi-Fi and therefore could not take advantage of some of the most important feature upgrades inherent in Pocket PC 2003. After careful evaluation of the costs and benefits and the relatively low impact on the user experience of the current xda version, we have decided not to deploy this upgrade. We are however pleased to announce that we will be introducing significant new features with another upgrade which will include the wireless modem, SIM Toolkit support and the SMS caller ID fix.
Can't be... I hope....
the part about Bluetooth and WiFi is bull****, look at the low-end ipaqs...
They don't wanna tell us, that all WM2003 devices will need to have WiFi and Bluetooth, do they?
If "The Pocket PC 2003 upgrade is subject to the original design of the hardware" how come I and many others are happly running it on our little old xda's :!: Hmmm, maybe they are trying to say it will only be available on xda 2, it would be cheaper for them in the long run.
Its a Bad News
All,
I got the problem after i upgrade PPC 2003, may be my mistake I erase the bootloader. This week i went to KL and I go to XDA helpdesk in Malaysia but i get disapointed with them... they didnt do anything with my Device they can't install the bootloader software. and about this news it's sucks :twisted: i feel like change to another device because the donn't have good support after sales service.
Oh no,
I sure hope O2 releases a version in europe!
bigies said:
We are however pleased to announce that we will be introducing significant new features with another upgrade which will include the wireless modem, SIM Toolkit support and the SMS caller ID fix.
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I may be missing something here - but basically are they saying they are going to provide a small 2002 update, almost a year late, that will provide functions that should have been in the orignal ROM. Functions that many people have already installed because of the generosity and skills of the many enthusiasts here that write killer free aps!!
If it is true
Maybe O2 try to concentre on the XDA- 2( Big competitor SS i700)
Infact only more than 4 months new XDA should be introduced in the market
No time for old XDA- more than enough- 64 000 devices saled in total from May 2002
That why do not wait something special in the next upgrade maybe the Special Developers- ROM 1.2 the best one
This is trading plan, new products- new price-new features -hopefully future- more customers -more profit
It is meaning, we have to change new device for speed, D.Camera, bluetooth, WIFI and WM2003 ??? in the end of this year
Any ideas?
If it is true
Maybe O2 try to concentre on the XDA- 2( Big competitor SS i700)
Infact only more than 4 months new XDA should be introduced in the market
No time for old XDA- more than enough- 64 000 devices saled in total from May 2002
That why do not wait something special in the next upgrade maybe the Special Developers- ROM 1.2 the best one
This is trading plan, new products- new price-new features -hopefully future- more customers -more profit
It is meaning, we have to change new device for speed, D.Camera, bluetooth, WIFI and WM2003 ??? in the end of this year
Any ideas?
Jayman said:
bigies said:
We are however pleased to announce that we will be introducing significant new features with another upgrade which will include the wireless modem, SIM Toolkit support and the SMS caller ID fix.
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I may be missing something here - but basically are they saying they are going to provide a small 2002 update, almost a year late, that will provide functions that should have been in the orignal ROM. Functions that many people have already installed because of the generosity and skills of the many enthusiasts here that write killer free aps!!
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Its not that, because the latest software upgrade to 3.17 and rsu to 4.21 is in fact meant for the UK model. What they're saying is that they'll be releasing the Asian model's upgrades soon. With Asian Carriers Auto-config. Thats my take on it. In the mean time, I did my upgrade last night to WM2003, pretty happy except for a few minor details...
With E-TEN M500 getting all the goodies, from Voice Command via BT Headset, good technical support, and now Windows Mobile 5.0, I think it's time that we get some serious damage control from i-mate.
Please take as much as 30 seconds out of your life to copy and paste the following letter and send to [email protected]:
Hello, Mr. Morrison,
I am writing to you in reference to the recent press release on Windows Mobile™ 5.0 from Microsoft®, and your position to support it on existing devices such as the i-mate™ JAM and the PDA2k.
As I am aware of now, there are conflicting reports from your technical support groups to your public interviews as to whether or not current i-mate™ owners will be able to upgrade their i-mate™ devices to Windows Mobile™ 5.0. As a relatively new i-mate™ customer, yet a rather trusted, public individual on various websites, forums, and support groups, I am hoping that I can get a firm answer from you or another trusted, definitive, and reliable source at i-mate™.
Since the announcement of Windows Mobile™ 5.0, manufacturers and companies have stepped up to announce that their existing Windows Mobile™-powered devices will be provided with a firmware upgrade, either paid or free, and within a reasonable amount of time. Most recently, E-TEN Corporation, whose M500 Windows Mobile™ Phone Edition device is in direct competition with the i-mate™ JAM, have firmly announced that they will have a Windows Mobile™ 5.0 upgrade solution in the near future.
Your continued support with your existing product line is just as important as your innovation and development of new devices, such as the yet-publicly-unnamed HTC Universal model. From a technical standpoint, the i-mate™ JAM and PDA2k are fully capable of satisfying the minimum requirements of Windows Mobile™ 5.0. I am also sure you are aware of the unofficial development of Windows Mobile™ 5.0 installed on an older-generation HTC Himalaya model with much success, which further proves that the JAM and PDA2k are more than likely candidates to accept such an upgrade.
I implore you to consider your current customer base in providing Windows Mobile™ 5.0 upgrade support for the JAM and PDA2k, and hope that you can reply with a firm response as soon as possible, as they both will surely reflect on your stance regarding customer service and support, with which many existing and potential consumers will definitely take into account when purchasing their next mobile device.
Thank you for your time and cooperation in this matter, and I hope to hear from you very soon.
Sincerely,
Your Name Here
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Good luck to us all.
Done
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Good idea would be to post this message to other forums as well
If you get something back, put it in here
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dn
great idea... done ofcourse.
edit: could somebody inform ppcw.net / msmobiles.com and all other news sites about this community movement so we will get even more users to join us
done....
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BTW... I think it would be a good idea to ask i-mate for widcomm bluetooth stack.. instead of the crappy M$ one....
done! :twisted: :evil:
I worte to him 2 weeks ago and this is the letter I got back pertaining to the crappy customer service and hopeless ROM updates that tend solve some problems only to create more.
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Dear Mr McClure,
Thank you for taking the time to write to us. I apologise that your experience hasn't been first rate.
Certain areas of our products do develop over time and we feel it important that new features an improvements are given to our customers as soon as they are available. Windows Media 10 became available firstly on the i-mate JAM, and we are now rolling this functionality onto our other device platforms. Similarly with video MMS capability on the JAM, improvements in camera software and post processing. New Bluetooth devices continue to enter into the market and occasionally we need to provide patches to ensure correct operation with our devices. We also receive service releases from Microsoft which we endeavour to release to our customers. We do try to stagger releases so that customers are not overloaded with patches and updates. Some critical updates we do release as patches, but we prefer to roll them up into single updates. We do perform stringent quality assurance on new builds to ensure we don't introduce new issues. This is far from our intention.
Best regards,
John Williamson
VP Technology
i-mate™
Office No. 207-213
Building 11
PO Box 500085
Dubai Internet City
Dubai, UAE
Tel: 00 971 (0) 4 390 1989
DDI: 00 971 (0) 4 367 8501
Fax: 00 971 (0) 4 390 4428
Mob: 00 971 (0) 50 550 8879
The camera still sucks.
johnannie said:
I worte to him 2 weeks ago and this is the letter I got back pertaining to the crappy customer service and hopeless ROM updates that tend solve some problems only to create more.
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Shouldn't you address HTC? I don't think that I-Mate (or other third brands) have anything to do with the software implementation.
Besides that, I don't know why everyone wants Mobile 5. What do you know exactly about it that is so interesting for the Magician?
done.. i hope they read it though!!!!
Dandie said:
Shouldn't you address HTC? I don't think that I-Mate (or other third brands) have anything to do with the software implementation.
Besides that, I don't know why everyone wants Mobile 5. What do you know exactly about it that is so interesting for the Magician?
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I would think htc will only do it if imate, qtek, o2, orange, t-mob etc. etc. pay them to develop and 2k5 rom for upgrade.
Why would we want it? Well persistant memory alone would be enougth for me. Seriously, we will all be looking back in a few years and saying "remember when we had PPC's and the battery run out and wiped the memory. What the f*** was that all about??!"
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Can these people be so stupid as to ship a device with third party software like Skype, pre-installed and yet it doesn't work and crashes non stop? Could that be? Did they ever think of checking it before shipping out thousands of duds?
Guys, I sent my Imate Jam back and traded it for a T-Mobile Rom, best thing I ever did, a bugless product.
No wonder Imate is proud of their tech support, they can't build the damn things right the first time???
Seriously, if they don't have a fix for in the next three days, I'm sending this back and picking up an XDA Exec. I have twrlvr days left and I have not time for this sh*t.
JusJar skype....
Why getting so upset...., just remove the Skype from you extended rom, use the Total command explorer (you will have to delete it twise.. once for the file and 2nd time the scratch file...) and it will never show up again until the next upgrade...
There are some more serious issues with the machine that we should worry about , but givven that it is a new product, I built the expectation that it take a while to resolve all issues... so far HTC products are the most stable PocketPc products, very flexible and with some guidance we can change alter modify them easily.
In general, I was suprised after 3 days that I bought the machine to land in Japan and this is the first time in the last decades that I land in this coutry and feel very connected. Vodaphone populated their network here it's very high quality voice and GPRS connection (U connection which is 3G). The machine is a bit Bulky relative to my other XDA mini machines, but does the work.. and I would consider it as working .... hop that in the near future we can (with the help of Imate, T-mobile... etc) resolve all other issues.
Genius,
If you read the known issues for Jasjar at www.clubimate.com you would see that skype is listed as one of them. Sometimes a little patience pays off
Guys,
Thought I would share this update I received from O2 Data Support regarding Blackberry availability since I'd been chasing them regularly for the XDAIIs.
Still unsure whether or not to invest in the Exec, but if they can get Blackberry going on it then I think it would be a winner for me.
Cheers
Thank you for your e-mail.
Blackberry Connect software is at this moment in time being developed
for the EXEC, unfortunately we cannot give any timescales on the release
date.
The reason on this not being released on launch with the device, is due
to the EXEC carrying the WM 5.0 O/S and the present Blackberry Connect
software only being compatible with WM 2003.
When details of release are available, these will be posted on our XDA
web site www.my-xda.com
Sorry we cannot be more precise with our answer, but if you have any
further enquiries, please do not hesitate to contact us, we will be more
than glad to help.
Kind regards
Technical Helpdesk Advisor
Customer Technical Support
O2-UK
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If your company using Exchange 2003 with SP2, it can be used as a blackberry device.
numanoids said:
Guys,
Thought I would share this update I received from O2 Data Support regarding Blackberry availability since I'd been chasing them regularly for the XDAIIs.
Still unsure whether or not to invest in the Exec, but if they can get Blackberry going on it then I think it would be a winner for me.
Cheers
Thank you for your e-mail.
Blackberry Connect software is at this moment in time being developed
for the EXEC, unfortunately we cannot give any timescales on the release
date.
The reason on this not being released on launch with the device, is due
to the EXEC carrying the WM 5.0 O/S and the present Blackberry Connect
software only being compatible with WM 2003.
When details of release are available, these will be posted on our XDA
web site www.my-xda.com
Sorry we cannot be more precise with our answer, but if you have any
further enquiries, please do not hesitate to contact us, we will be more
than glad to help.
Kind regards
Technical Helpdesk Advisor
Customer Technical Support
O2-UK
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Remember, it took O2 and RIM nearly a year to get it right; given RIM haven't got a 3G device yet I'd say it will be this time next year when we see it on Exec.
Sad but true - O2 is at the mercy of RIM, and the RIM Connect team are at the mercy of the RIM Core team
We do run Exchange 2003 - not sure what our plans are to implement SP2 and we are a Blackberry house already. Need to have a word with our global messaging team to find out what the plans are.
Also, when I last looked at AUTD notifications for Exchange 2003 Sp1, O2 said that they didn't support AUTD which rendered the technology useless if you were on O2.
I'd sincerely hope that seeing as they are selling a device that has the capability, O2 would have the foresight(?) to look at accomodating customers who was to take advantage of it.
I don't think Rim will take that long to develop a client - given the current state of affairs in the states they'll be looking to increase their userbase with or without their own hardware and what better way that to incorporate support for newer clients? They'll know the Universal supports the Exchange push technology, but while its still being brought into production why not jump in and keep hold of existing RIM customers by accomodating their new devices.
[email protected] <[email protected]>
Please just send a single reporting the problems and for update.
SE will have to listen to us....fill there mailbox.
im with you man.
I just send an email on SE. here is a copy:
Its a shame. You (SE) were my favorite cell phone company since T68i (and p800 was like something that just came from the future). That is even 3 years before I got myself my first SE phone (T610).
I was waiting for X1 for more then a year (anounced on february 2008, my mobile operator got it on march 2009, I got it on april 2009).
X1 still is my favorite phone of all time (**** the snapdragon, **** the 8MP camera and **** the 8GB internal storage... X1 had a soul. It had personality). But X2 makes me kick same ass.
If only my X1 wouldnt get broken and then when they couldnt get it repaired they should give me a new X1 but instead they gave me new X2.
I just cant believe you made so crappy successor to such an amazing phone as X1. Even afther the 6 months since x2 was released it feels as unfinished product.
The store gave me X2 for free and I still feel robbed. You should just sit down and think about what I just told you. I cant imagine what people must be thinking who had to pay for X2. I simply cant imagine them getting another SE phone ever again.
When my K700i got stolen I used a nokia 1600 for some months. and 1600 is a better phone then X2. Sure it doesnt have a camera it doesnt have a qwerty but with nokia 1600 I knew what i have will work as it should (plus the battery lasted around 12 days).
X2 being advertised as successor to X1, and a high end business phone. Let me tell you something. almost 2 years old X1 is a better phone then X2, X2 is the worst phone I ever had (because of bad software), even philips fisio 820 (not a good phone) was a better phone then X2. Fisio at least worked. If a business man would be satisfied with X2 he is no business, he is dumb ass individual who cant tell a phone from a pile of $h!t.
There is one thing i havent seen better on any phone ever. its the calling program. Its useful as it can get. Its simple and nice looking peace of software. But what its all for if sometimes calls get dropped, sometimes the caller cant hear me or I cant hear him... If at least the calls were perfect so that people wouldnt always ask HEY DUDE WHATS WRONG WITH YOU 500€ PHONE? X2 is not a business phone its a huge embarassmen and that is what it is. An embarrassment that you have to pay a lot of money for.
X1 was the soul of XPERIA brand to me and you killed it with X2 and no X10 or X8 can save it. You shouldnt leave the x2 software as it is. There has to be another update even if there is no new features it should at least address the performance issues, the sd card issue, the call issues... also if you advertise WVGA video recording at 30fps that is what it should be in reality, but its not.
As I sad I was a huge fan of SE. Im SE user since 2003 (t610, k700i, k750i, k630, P1, X1, X2). But if X2 stays as it is in MR2 and there is no new update its the last SE Ill have.
I hear druid 2 is a nice phone. But still if x2 software issues was fixed I wouldnt have a reason to change to other phone.
I know youll think of me just as a number, a decimal number. I am. But I hope that every unhappy user of X2 sends you an email everyday so you guys get sick of it and do something abouth it. I know WM6.5 develop is almost dead. WP7 is on the way. But a phone you made and lunched and put a hefty price tag on should at least work properly.
I know my english is not the best, well its still better then X2.
SE fan Grega Bajželj, Slovenia
Thanks bro...SE will listen to us...pray
no replay from SE yet.
I think that a class action menace cold be a nice addon on the emails.
Unluckily in my country the class actiopn concept is too young ad hard to pursue.
sorry my ignorance but what is class action concept? I had googled a bit but i didnt get an understandable answer what is it.
gbajzelj said:
sorry my ignorance but what is class action concept? I had googled a bit but i didnt get an understandable answer what is it.
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I mean that in some states, the class action (a collective lawsuit) is a well known way to protect the consumer's rights.
Here in (Italy) this practice was unknown until few years ago, and even now the law is still too biased in favor of the big companies.
In short doing a collective lawsuit here is still (at least) impractical.
My English is poor but I hope, you can understand what I mean.
JAPANESE...they have high pride, they won't do what people tell them to do....so forget it, they won't listen.
I'd send your message again with the vulgar language removed.
You want to come across as a serious person, shomeone they want as a customer rather than just a kid throwing a tantrum? Then email them "professionally".
Once you start swearing, they stop reading and quite possibly blacklist your email account.
you minght be right. ill clean my email of swering.
supertrac said:
JAPANESE...they have high pride, they won't do what people tell them to do....so forget it, they won't listen.
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I think that stereotypes aren't helping here.
And AFAIK SE is still, technically a Swedish company, it's mainly the good old Ericsson company, with some Sony addition, not the opposite.
I hope every one send massege to SE to solve this rubbish phone ..
Small problem in IPHONE 4 make apple give solution for every phone why this not happen in our case and change this rubbish phone or solve it ..
email SE CEO: [email protected]
Maybe he has time to listen to us.
im also sick and tired
so much unresponsiveness
memory card problem
loading problem
y the hell they arnt updating
fixing the issues
got a reply from SE, just a corporate answer, but at least we know that they do read their e-mails...
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From:
To: , [email protected]
Subject: Xperia X2 update
Dear Support Team,
I would like to know if there is any plan for future update after MR2, It is unfortunate that Xperia X2 has become an abomination with a quasi working Slide View and a new 6.5.3 Windows system. It would be more comforting to know if SE is going try to merge these two systems into a better one
Thank you for your time
William
A Faithful user of Ericsson since T68i
Sign-up for the Service Panel on X2
I just received an email from SE inviting me to take a survey. It was a fairly lengthy survey, including how I use the phone, what features are important to me, and what my impressions were. Toward the end, it offered me a free-form section to "speak directly to the manufacturer" (400 words or less), as well as an opportunity to give them my phone number for any future questions they might have of me.
Apparently, this survey was a by-product of having signed-up for the Service Panel on the X2. So, for all those frustrated, I highly recommend signing-up on the Service Panel. I don't know how much they will take my responses to heart, or if I'll ever get called. However, (I think) the good news is that this might indicate that they're not "done" with the phone just yet (or possibly not even with Windows Mobile, in general).
In any case, it's probably a better method of reaching them, then dropping a s-load of f-bombs on them.
Since owning the phone my #1 complaint would be the lack of internal memory space compared to the X1, and that the bluetooth/Voice Command compatibility is not as good as the X1. However, overall I am continually amazed at the hate thrown toward the X2's way. From a hardware perspective, the phone puts HTC to shame. It's significantly lighter, more-pocketable, the keyboard is better, the screen more readable and accessible. ... just better, better, better. For all the complaints about performance, I notice a perceptible improvement in game performance on the X2 vs the X1 (things as simple as PacMan, or as intensive as the PS1 emu).
I agree with everyone that 1 more firmware update would be appreciated (significant improvements to Slideview and bluetooth support in particular; reduction of 'bloat', if possible). There are weird circumstances (particularly with the CNN panel, if left running) where the phone will unexpectedly 'crash'. But, to me, at only the 2nd firmware update, this phone's software far exceeds the capability of the X1 at the same point-in-time of the lifecycle.
The only thing that made the X1 a truly solid & flexible phone were the hacked ROM's (particularly, gtrab's latest which --ironically-- was based off of the 1st-gen X2 firmware).