I'm looking for an anti-theft app. I don't know if it exists yet.
Is there an equivalent to the symbian phone apps "Anti-thief" or "EzProtect"? It has some nice features to let your pda "phone home" when someone is tinkering with it, or you can remotely disable your pda by sending a password though sms.
I've been searching over the net and found "Kill-pda" but that can only erase the device completely by sms. Thats a bit overkill :lol:
I hope someone knows, because i learned the hard way that you really need an app like this. My phone got stolen once and I got a Huge A$$$ bill for calling to egypt en italy
edit: I found this description for EzProtect:
The application sends an SMS to your specified number as soon as the SIM card has been changed. By this way, you receive SMS on your friend's (or whoever's number u defined) cell with the thief's cellnumber and SIM number (IMSI) so it becomes very easy to track the thief.
I definately want an app that can do this. And I can imagine a lot of people wanting it too.
There was a discussion about this on HoFo in Oct ober when people first started receiving their Wizards. I think BTT (BeyondtheTech) mentioned something about it. I'll see if I can track it down this evening.
It certainly would be cool.
Check this out! http://www.ppcsg.com/index.php?s=0c0cedfa906ae1b85f844fb7b497def6&showtopic=65021
Hope this works. I have not tried this myself.
Thanks a lot for your help, but that was the program i mentioned in the threadstart "PDAKill".
The only thing it can do is erase the device completely when you send a sms to your pda containing a predifined password.
But when the thief takes out the simcard and puts in his own, then this program would be useless.
Guys, if I've seemed distracted for the last few days, this is why:
I've been working on a program called VJAccioPhone.
It is used to detect if your phone has been stolen and to permit remote use of the stolen phone. Your phone doesn't have to be stolen, eg if for some reason your wife is likely to discover your "niece's" affectionate messages to you, you can send a password protected remote keyword to format your phone and hardreset it. I'm sure you can think of better examples!
It's an expansion of some code I wrote for my unreleased plugin, VJEphemeris, which you can read about here. The release version allows you to do pretty much anything you can do with the phone when it's in your hand, all remotely. Destructive and constructive control.
This is a pre-announcement. I don't like preannouncing, but unfortunately this week I've been on a very limited programming quota due to the ministrations of my better half. So although the code is finally finished, it's being beta tested while I'm away on holiday. If all is well when I get back next week, hopefully I'll try to get it released!
Don't tell anyone else, but you can read about VJAccioPhone and see screenshots here. Please note, and don't ask, there is no download available at the moment.
V
Aside from that a program like this would be very handy, and I'm quite curious and will keep an eye on it myself, I advise everyone to activate the pin code on their simcard, and always call their mobile operator as soon as the phone is stolen so they can block your number to avoid getting high bills as the topicstarter said... You should also be able to get your number back easily by requesting a new sim card and having your mobile number set to that simcard again.
This may seem obvious to some people, but I just wanted to post it anyway since a lot of people are still not aware of these simple ways to protect yourself.
Absolutely true; in England, the police aren't interested in persuing phone theft, but for you own benefit, you must always have your IMEI blocked and the phone reported stolen immediately to prevent you being charged for calls.
VJAccioPhone will be able to report back to you even if the IMEI has been changed or it's being used abroad etc. It's more for protecting your data on the stolen phone then getting the phone back. Frankly, any thief would do better to throw the phone away then persue cracking strong protections. Stolen phones are easy enough to come by! However, at least a nice passer by might be able to get in touch with you!
V
Sounds great! Would it be possible to enable the phone ID (Where you can enter your name and contact details) thought this might be good if it was ever found (or part of the hard reset).
Wauw, this is great stuff Vijay!
If you need a beta-tester on the wizard platform, i would highly recommend myself
This would be excactly what everyone needs 8)
Would it be possible to save the configuration settings? Because my idea would be to include the cab file in my extended_rom, and thus make it install itself even after a hard reset. This would mean that the configurations settings also have to be loaded after the hard reset.
Keep up the great work Vijay
frigit: if you mean enable password screen, yes, should be no problem. however i'm thinking of writing a better custom password screen using some strong encryption, with optional destruction on failure.
leploep: of course, it's designed for extended rom etc. right now protection works as a ta k, for the demo, but i'll be writing protection into an invisible app. Remote control is already complete and works transparently when triggered, so the thief won't even realise what you're doing ie there's no sign of the control smss being received to the thief.
eg you can background call the police from the stolen phone
more when i'm back from holiday next week!
v
This is starting to sound like a killer app - pun intended 8)
I'm in for sure when you get this finished, Vijay!
Already finished for the demo version!
kept me quite busy, developing three intersecting programs, like playing chess! but they all seem to work ok. a friend is testing it hopefully this week then i'll see what i can do for wider release when i get back...
v
Well vijay555 , you can put me on the list of very interested persons on buying this soft.
Cheers mate.
vijay will this work on all the wm5.0 devices??
i.e. I have the pda2k with wm5.0 and have been looking for a prog like this since i got my device, also is it possible to keep this program after hard reset ?? as you know if a hard reset is done the data is gone, but the user now has an expensive device to start playing with
it's not been tested on wm5 at this time, actually because the guy testing has a wm2003 motorola - gulp! but everything i write is normally wm5 & wm2003 now. there is no reason why it's not wm5 compatible but i'll ensure it is before release. i can certainly say, to my pain, the hardReset keyword is very wm5, i activated it by accident in testing.
retaining it after hard reset is only possible, as far as i am aware, by using a custom ext rom or rom.i've not tried it on my magician or universal, but hopefully your device in particular ext rom customisation is possible. at this time it uses registry & normal exe/dll files to run, so no reason it can't be ext rom'med. hopefully this will be confirmed in testing shortly.
if anyone can think of any particularly useful remote keywords to incorporate drop me a line. as it is, the full version will permit remote .exe launching so it can do pretty much anything
v
a lot of us have paid an arm and leg for our devices so having that extra peace of mind,knowing that if your device is nicked your going to make it as hard as poss for the theif to try and profit from your loss.
vijay all the best mate so far your app looks very promising iv got the exec running WM05 so if you need a beta tester let me know LOL
and guys if you report your phone as lost make sure your service provider is also going to blacklist the device!
I work for Vodafones in a call centre in the birmingham, UK,but the amount of customer services that is outsoursed to other non vodafone call centres based here in the UK its unbelievable! the amount of complaints I deal with and customers accounts that I come across where the outsourced twats
will admin bar your sim card but not blacklist the handset!
anyway I'll keep my eyes open for any more theftbashing apps and will post on here.
N2h said:
I work for Vodafones i
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
But have an O2 phone.....
Whow V.
Looks very very promising.. !
Great Job man :!:
i'd be happy to check it on my devices :wink:
Cheerz
lol mcwarre
even with our staff accounts we can't get the pdas as they are only available for busniess customers to be honest with you don't know why vodafone is stupid enough not to sell to normal consumers its the biggest network in the uk,
the staff phones we do get we gets 12 months line rental free lol
annnnd from all the universals I think the exec with its black shell looks the most stunning-the white shell devices just look a tad bulkier! lol
Related
First off XDA Dev forum rocks! I think it is so great that so many people have really helped every level of user. I believe this is truly the best-run forum on the net. XDA developer Peter Poelman, Jeff S., Lance, and I'm sure I'm leaving someone(s) out, please don't take it personally (God I feel like I'm giving an Oscars speech). No really, these guys are great! It's always nice to see a virtual community that actually works like a community. Anyways Tits Up! to ya all :lol: I hope that wasn't inappropriate I mean it is a real expression...... ...I think? :shock:
OK back to my experience so far:
(Theses experiences are based on a Previously US T-Mo PPCPE device with the ATT wireless SX56 latest Radio Stack running obviously WME2003 on US Cingular's Network. As a side note I think we should encourage people making posts for help or in general to start each post with your location, country, service provider, device variant, & ROM+Radio info. This sounds like a lot but these things really aid troubleshooting. Not to mention many of these things can be the thing that makes someone go :idea: I know the answer to that one! Anyway just a thought)
a.) I don't mind all the name changes, win CE, Handheld PC, Pocket PC + 1 and a 1/2 incarnations, and now WME. Just as long as it doesn't get changed to The Operating System Formerly Known As :roll:
b.) If you are having trouble with ring tones this is what I experienced. After using the add ringtone app in setting my ring tones wouldn't show up once I went to the phone app to change the ring tone it was not their. I then snooped around and found some differences.
1.) 2003 ring tones (ROM) are actually .wma files or have that extension
2.) Strangely these files differentiate from regular .wav files by having a space after the name (i.e. ringtonfilename .wma verses ringtonfilename.wma or ringtonfilename.wav) I am not sure this is how the OS tells the diff.
3.) Even weirder now everything works as it should space no space, use +ringtone app, or direct copy file to Rings folder in \windows DIR. So, if you're having problems try adding the space and putting it in the windows directory folder then once it shows up move it back to the rings folder and all should be well. Haven't toyed with .midi ring tones or polyphonic ringtones yet.
c.) If you want .wav files to show up in the sounds & notification / notifications tab just name the beginning of the file with Alarm i.e. Alarmwavfilename.wav and put it in the \Windows DIR folder and their you have it. I use Looney Toons TAZ talking when I get a new SMS as an example. AlarmTAZ.wav
d.) There seems to be a lot of stuff left over from the old OS if that is possible, or I'm not sure why it would be included as duplicates or not used by .Net 4.2x
Under Settings:
I have 2 power icons under settings. They both seem to work fine except one uses a newer Icon and is missing hyperlinks to other apps. I wonder if 4.2 see both but not the key that has the hyper links. Might be fixable. I'd suggest delete one of the keys but not before figuring out adding a new value for the hyper links. I still don't quite understand the registry. I have no computer training just self-taught and now have hard resetting down to blind folded, underwater and in my sleep :lol:
(If anyone understands the registry please PM me I have some interesting ideas I’d like to try that could benefit everyone )
Auto Config icon links no where.
Device Information doesn't get all the information right.
Other stuff that seems to do nothing but is present
\Windows\Cookies
\Windows\History
\Windows\Temporary Internet Files
\Windows\www
[I think these files were added by the developer of this beta to aid the team/soft dev/beta testers familiar with the old layout. I don't think this is the raw WME2003 OS (could be wrong). I would love to get my hands on that, incase service providers tweak & load junk on their that make the device work the way "they" want it to and not what it "is" capable of doing.]
These all now live in (with the exception of the last) in a new location that gets used (with new sub folders called content.IE5 & history.IE5) \Windows\Profiles\guest\
You'll need to know this if you wish to move the location of your temp internet files to be stored on your SD or MMC card. (p.s. don't delete your index file when manually deleting files in these folder it does not remake itself on warm boot. This may not be the case any more)
Also, you may want to download & install VBruntime for pocket pc 2003 from MS. I looked all over and for the life of me I can not find the file to post the link, but don't worry once you do anything that requires it I was prompted to download it by the OS :shock: 8)
e.) Also under \Application Data\Volatile\ DIR & \profiles\default\ DIR these don't seem to serve any function either.
That's about it for the oddities, of course there's the snooze hangs your device alarm bug. Not sure if that's going to be so easily fixed might be vibrate option related? Haven't toyed yet.
Also, radio signal display isn't all that accurate. Signal still the same, just not displayed as accurately.
OK now on to the cool stuff! (I'll just focus on the functionality issues as not to repeat too much that we already have in the forum:
f.) True Class B GPRS (Strange seems to be OS side not GSM Radio Side, as I didn't upgrade the Radio Stack :?: )
Always on + True GPRS Suspend feature! (I can't believe I waited over a year! for this common basic function :evil: and MANY people out their are still! waiting. I'm surprised this device even did as well as it did given this was already a feature in Bluetooth phone+PDA combos. I almost took it back to the store the day I bought it (Like all the handheld computers in my PDA graveyard from Casio Boss-Sharp-1st CE-Psion-RIMBlackberry-HPC both form factors-PPC, I must be the first to have it! I'm ill that way :roll: early adopter is a light term :shock: )
g.) Today Plug-in big improvement Calendar gives you a heads up the next appointment down the road (you'll either love this or hate it & it's not an option so hope for the first)
Inbox plug-in shows all your accounts SMS+All email accounts. Taping on the specific account launches that account 8)
h.) Pac-Man anyone just go to \Windows\Pac-Man.exe and copy via file explorer into your \Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Games and Tap & Hold select paste shortcut. Then Tap & Hold rename and get rid of "shortcut"
i.) Inbox rocks now almost Blackberry like functionality (sort of) When you set up a new account their is an option to check called connect & check for messages every "" minutes. Max value is only 60min not so good if you’re trying to watch kb charges or battery life. But the really cool part is it really works. Even if you ready for this kids 8) DO NOT have a current data connection it will at the appointed interval launch a data connection and run! :shock: way 8) This will take place even if the devise is turned off, but requires inbox to be open and I think on the top (not running in the background a stupid MS bug. Not the case when the device is on will run in the background)
Now for the things I do hate :x :
Once again Microsoft just blows me away in their omission of a function that is so obvious, basic and expected and just cripples the device at the point of it's "Main" cool sell factor (i.e. data connection killed on power off, data connection terminated on call dial/receive) that I just can't believe it :shock: The moment the little thought ran through my head "Oh, #%[email protected]! I might have to wait a year for this tiny #%[email protected] pivotal bug to get worked out I almost threw my device out the window I was so pissed :x :evil: So hear it is and your not going to believe it:
The inbox as stated above works awesome, very automated, great, etc, but if you have more that one email account it will ONLY auto connect and check the one that is on top! Even worse, if your SMS account is on top wont check any of your email accounts :shock: I just cant believe it all that functionality and just like before...Up the dirt path! :shock: What were they thinking? I don't think this is going to be fixed by any of the operators. I'd be curious if the non Phone Edition WME2003 has this same roadblock? Two little things; work in the background on or off, and check all accounts. Makes sense the app has to be open.
One last OMG can't believe it MSN Messenger is very flakey with GPRS Suspend sessions. Meaning sometimes it does not reconnect and other times it does. The problem is you will have no idea unless you go look to see, at this point...What's the point? Defeats the whole purpose. Again, these are most likely on the MS side not likely to be fixed by the service providers
I recommend copying the tmail.lnk file located in \Windows\ to \Windows\StartUp\
One cool thing you might really want to do :
This is a must have http://www.phm.lu/Products/PocketPC/RegEdit/ for the following:
It seems many people like to program their voicemail password in with the voicemail number so it gets entered automatically. I, like many others, initially tried adding the p's to the number in Start, Settings, Phone, Voicemail but after a soft reset the p's change to 0's.
The following seems to work on an SX56 with AT&T Wireless and T-Mobile. This involves editing the registry, if you're not careful you can break things requiring a hard reset. You might want to do a backup through ActiveSync before trying this. I'm not responsible if you break it.
If you don't already have it, download and install a registry editor. The one from PHM (www.phm.lu/products) seems to work great.
Open the registry editor.
Navigate to \HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Vmail
Edit the PhoneNumber key to include your voicemail access number, pauses (use "p"), and your password.
Edit the RegOverridesSIM to 1, instead of 0.
Close the registry editor.
Soft reset the device.
Go to SpeedDial and verify your voicemail number includes the pauses and password.
After this, do not go into the Voicemail settings, ie. where it says "Reading settings from network...". Doing so will reset the RegOverridesSIM key and you'll have to do it again.
Hope this helps someone out.
Source: PocketPCPassion user boostaddict
_________________
Mike Collins
thank you mike for this tip now it gets a little trick on 2003 here's why. In the \HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Vmail there is no RegOverridesSIM key beleive it or not I a non-programmer am going to teach you anyone how to write a registry key :shock: (only for this instance! It's probably not really this easy. I had no idea what I was doing. Just guessed right the first time, shew!) OK kids here we go (doing this wrong may well destroy the very fabric of our 4 dimensional universe or.....It'll just #%[email protected] up your machine :roll: ):
\HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Vmail
Then from edit on the command bar select "New DWORD Value"
Value Name: RegOverridesSIM
Value data: 1
Base: Decimal
Hit OK
Now go to Phone Number 1 Edit your phone number to include your pauses and password or what not under
Value Data
and hit OK
Exit the program (Close It not minimize)
Soft Reset your device and that's it!
OK enough my conclusion (To WME2003 or SER1.2 or not):
If you read this post and said "#%[email protected]! me, do I really need to know all that?! :evil: I just want my device to work. (You want a stable reliable device, and never look under the hood of your own car. Oil what's that? you get the idea :mrgreen
Also if you are counting kb (GPRS data) and only connect for information, for fun, or not more than 5+ times a day
Then Go with SER1.1 or 1.2 both excellent very well done and way stable. Nice job guys 8)
If you are not counting kb, you really "need" connectivity 24hrs a day (other than the novelty factor i.e. I do wireless & software consulting for corporations in the US wanting to go wireless or paperless, and I provide Technical support via IM clients. Now imagine how free "I" become being able to be truly mobile :shock: This is what wireless is really all about baby! I'm also an Actor here in Los Angeles...no really it just sounds like a joke :lol: )
don't mind getting your hands dirty, tinkering under the hood, or every time someone give you back your phone after looking at it you caress and utter under your breath "My Preeeeeciouse...."
Then go with WME2003
Hope this helps.
P.s. If there are any programmers for CE4.2 out there I have some ideas specific to these devices and I have the resources to get these ideas to companies and the entertainment industry. The demand is getting stronger, the future is being realized in business, and right now my hands are tied to what already is. Not, what should be. Big difference, even bigger market.
Funny thing, the PHM registry editor was already in my windows directory so I am guessing it is part of the ROM image to begin with. Since this is a developer ROM image I can see the need for this. Can anyone else confirm this so I can stop wondering whether or not I installed PHM in my sleep and didn't know about it.
I did the double wammy, I installed the ATT SX56 update and then immediately MW2003 on my T-Mobile PPC. Bad move, sort of. My GPRS signal was MIA for a good 80-90% of the time after that after the 2003 install. Maybe it was the network but I thought it was funny that all of a sudden after several months of almost no downtime I start having connection problems after updating the radio stack. After a couple days of this I decided to revert back to the ATT SX56 rom. So far my signal is back to what it should be.
I have to conclude it is the 2003 ROM and the type of SIM or coverage in my area. Voicestream showed up as the carrier under 2003, but under 2002 it shows as T-Mobile. Is this the case for all T-Mobile users I wonder? I wish I could figure out why my GPRS wasn't working under 2003 but until then I will stick with what I have at this point. At least I can rule out the radio stack upgrade as the problem.
Uninterupted GPRS with Thunderhawk will have to suffice for now.
If you are sticking with 2003 I envy you. Even with this pre-release version of the OS I can see definite speed increases with games, so I am guessing it across the board too.
Thanks for XDA Developers and Jeff for their contributions and more importantly time to this community.
@ ottoman3
Yes that is the case with my unit, in the LA basin, too.
But I really don't mind if it says Voicestream or T-Mobile, my service here reports Cingular :shock: since they share network and towers in the area. And yes PHM Registry edit is on the ROM, with some other Registry thing, Wallaby (xda) stress test tool and PacMan
I'm sticking with it, because I like the experience, see
http://www.xda-developers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1649
I have no need for Blackberry-style email, in fact I *like* the fact that I can control email flow (manually yes but it's ok 4 me).
The +'s outweigh the -'s in my case, ymmv :wink:
PHM Registry is indeed in the 2003 ROM. But it is v0.2 instead of the latest v0.7
ottoman3
PHM reg edit in ROM I decided to encourage people to use the latest version, but old one works just fine too.
The other reg edit tool is manual (I think kind of like a command line registry edit)
If you'd like please post what device hardware you are running (who you bought it from) and upgrade revisions i.e. Here's what I did. Started with latest t-mo ROM & Radio from US T-Mo website, then successfully (no bumps) updated to AT&T latest ROM & Radio, then updated (with a few hangs, simply solved by pulling the device from the cradle closing the desktop session putting the device back in the cradle and running set up again. Never soft or hard reset my device. The upgrade program sees where you left off and picks up from there) SERv1.1, Then successfully upgraded just the ROM image to WME2003.
My radio rom combo works fine - being quite temperamental from time to time. Radio seems to be fine, just rom temperamental.
Couple of things:
I assume your phone was SIM Unlocked, if so it will show the actual network provider for the tower you are using. If your device is SIM locked to a certain network provider AT&T or T-Mo it usually only shows that provider unless you are roaming. Voicestream is the old name T-Mo is the new name so maybe some locations still ID as VS. Where are you located? Like vagelis said CA, New York, and I think one other allow these two providers to sell service in areas they were not in.
Once you upgraded successfully to ATT ROM did you soft reset allow the radio to register on the network, connect to GPRS and then did the 2003 update? Just curious. Shouldn't make a difference but when handshaking with networks it might want to log the IMEI number or something first. Just guessing:?
Usually if you are able to connect to GPRS some of the time and not other it is not necessarily on the device side. That usually denotes an operator problem.
And vagelis what's a matter with you :wink: not wanting instant or timely email notification! No really, I understand there are two opinions to everything one is mine the other is wrong :roll:
I just wish they would have not stopped short, seems like a simple yet obvious ooophs .
One last thing, if you want email notification without incurring data costs, try the following:
Open a hotmail account, go to alerts tab, and set up alerts via SMS to your cellular phone number you.
Then at your POP3 account home simply set up “forward copy of mail” received (not all POP3 services allow this and HTML services do not allow forward to another account) to your new hotmail inbox. Now you will know via an SMS message that you need to “Manually” check your Inbox on your device. It also includes the subject line in the SMS but not the body of text incase you decide it’s not important enough to check right now. If you already use a HTML mail account most of the major ones have SMS alerts for email. So, you will know when you have to log-on and sign in to your mailbox.
I followed the upgrade path pretty much the same as you erickbryce minus the Dev 1.1 upgrade. I went from the latest T-Mobile rom to the latest ATT SX56 rom. Reset the device, signed onto my service, played with GPRS just to see what uninterupted GPRS was really like. It said T-Mobile with the ATT rom so I know it had something to do with MW2003. I then upgraded to MW2003. Then it went downhill from there.
I bought my PPC phone last August from CompUSA so I am guessing it is the unlocked version. I just read a very interesting thread over at PPCPassion about someone getting their SIM replaced with a new one from T-Mobile and their Voicestream idenitification changed back to T-Mobile and their GPRS improved greatly. It sounds just like my situation. And since my phone was purchased right around the time Voicestream changed over to T-Mobile maybe something was left behind on the SIM. I never really followed up on GSM and SIM technology to know what exactly is stored on these cards outside of Account information. I will see if I can get my SIM replaced with a new one and try MW2003. I really miss the speed boost.
Thanks for your input and suggestions.
Can you give a little more detail on the "Then it went downhill from there" part? :lol:
The GPRS connection went downhill from there. Sorry for not being too clear with that statement. It started out okay, then for the next several days I pretty much was never able to establish a connection. It must have been connected with MW2003 because my connection was dead prior to returning to the ATT rom. 10 minutes later after the upgrade my GPRS came back. It has been solid ever since.
Hmm very interesting
Just wondering did you try the new SIM card solution yet? I am just very interested now to see if swapping the SIM makes GPRS work now. The curious thing is, it worked then didn't :evil: . If your provider disable some provisioning on their end changing the SIM will only load the same provisions on your account as before on the new SIM. Please let me know and ask your service provider why this would work if it does. Always learning, so would like to know. :idea:
Hi,
I purchased the latest version of AntonTomov's PocketMechanic via Handango and received the registration key immediately after finished purchase procedure.
Installation on my TyTN seemed to work out first (the program accepted the key with a message box and a sound).
But only moments later a message box popped up, telling me I use a pirated version and should turn to the manufacturer, which I did (also mailed Handango).
Meanwhile tried to install PM several times (always removing all traces from both PC and TyTn incl. Registry and rebooted) - to no avail.
Meanwhile received a new serial, but same story again: first accepted and immediately afterwards aborted with Piracy message.
A new complaint mail is on ist way.
Meanwhile I'm asking here if anybody had similar problems in getting the Pocket Mechanics to work on a TyTN.
Appreciating feedback and will let te community know how it worked out for me.
I would not use or buy Tomov's products out of principal.
Found a lot of threads about earlier version doing a hard reset without asking, when inputted a "pirated" serial. So be glad it only shows a box nowdays.
While software piracy is not a good thing, at least for people developing propietary software. Tomov has used a bit too drastic measures to fight
back.
jeezus said:
I would not use or buy Tomov's products out of principal.
Found a lot of threads about earlier version doing a hard reset without asking, when inputted a "pirated" serial. So be glad it only shows a box nowdays.
While software piracy is not a good thing, at least for people developing propietary software. Tomov has used a bit too drastic measures to fight
back.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This does not make me too comfortable :-(
I also read a few note about that on the net and a reply by Tomov, complaining that this is not true and only a campaign to cut him off his revenues.
Well, I do not know what to believe, however this uncertainty is also not too comfortable...
Well the Pocket Mechanic way of uses some hardware dependent functions and - if you dare to take use of such - you have to either be very careful and also prepared that they might not work on untested and after all very new (such as the TyTN) devices.
I was prepared for all of that but not that I receive a piracy mail (which somewhat alsmost accuses you of being a software pirate and telling you to mail to [email protected]) when I purchased the software (which I can also prove).
Maybe he uses some hardware related mechanism to check eligibility of the serial and as he hasn't tested yet the TyTN (which he admits) this software won't allow being registered at all. I do not know.
But isn't such a meachanism pure over-kill ?
Actually something like that must be going on as I receive this pop up also after a new install and having purged all remnants from the PC, the PDA and the registry.
If I'd be trying out serials just at random, would anyone think that I'll millions of times do that complete procedure just to find any working key at the end of my life maybe ???
(And if I'd be a professional hacker I'd disassemble the code and be able to work around even these barriers.)
So, applying over-kill measures like that only brings problems to decent users, risking to run into problems when using special configurations or ne devices.
+++
Apart from that I must say that Tomov's applications seem well coded and also graphically very nice (one wonders how graphically nice application you can program for PDAs; shame upon Microsoft for their pre-installed poor applications !!!).
Also I see no real alternatives for some functionality he provided within one software, that's why I purchased the PM.
Finally again my question:
Has anyone encountered the same problems with the PM on a HTC TyTN ?
(btw: Thanks "jeezus" for your feedback.)
Might I inquire which funktionality you need?
Maybe we can find an alternative solution.
I'm been working on this for a little bit now since I found all the existing apps don't work well in WM6 or don't work well in a custom rom. This is a open source program (as all of mine are) and I welcome help/donations/and comments. Bug reports will be helpful in this first release as I certainly consider this a alpha release at the moment.
What it does:
once setup at every boot it compares your IMSI number with the one stored, if it's a match it plays a little sound and that's it. If it's not a match, it locks the device and displays your email and a request to please get it back to you. It also send you the "new sim's" imsi and phone number via a SMS.
------------------------------
SecurIt 1.1 (BETA) by Shadowmite
------------------------------
TODO: Build in SMS rule filtering thus adding remote control
Lock out activesync connections?
Protect the datafile from being deleted, or keep a backup in registry.
NOTE: THIS DOES NOT WORK WITH CDMA PHONES!
Version 1 (BETA) Instructions:
This security applicatioon can run loaded normally via a cab file to your device, or via being cooked into a rom. It will require your phone able to run unsigned code (most roms at this site are fine in this regard). Furthermore it does require the .NET Framework so it's really for WM6 devices, WM5 will be more tricky and is left up to the user to figure out how to make it all work.
When first run the program resides in \windows and must run from there. If you ran the cab installer it will have created a shortcut for you into the Programs folder.
The application comes up with a form showing you the current device imei, imsi, and phone number. You need to enter a password (needed to disable security programmatically or change SIM info), a email you can be reached at my a "finder" of your phone, and a SMS phone number you'd like alert messages sent to. Once done click set. Finally, click Enable security.
The application then sets itself up to autorun upon boot and if the SIM matches, it plays a little sound file to let you know everything is fine. If the sim is found to have changed, it will lock down the device until a password is entered. Meanwhile it shows your contact email and has sent the alert sms to you with the new imsi and phone number.
If you enter the proper password the program will take you to the settings screen where you can reenter the password and make changes to the settings and resave them. Simply clicking enable security without making changes will keep the settings as they are.
Clicking disable security will remove the autorun entries and remove the data file the programs keeps at \windows\SecurIt.dat.
The data file keeps 5 lines, MD5 hashes of your imei, imsi, password, and also your email and sms phone number as plain text. Thus stealing this file does not enable retrieving the password or easy changing of the imsi. Deleting this file however would remove security. Furthermore activesync will still link to a locked device. Knowledgable people about these devices could therefore defeat this security, however it's goal is to keep the casual theif / finder out of the phone.
This program is a work in progress and I welcome help with modifications to it as well as bug fixes. Source can be found at:
svn://www.shadowmite.com/shadowmite/SecurIt
To cook this into a rom, you need 3 files. 2 of them need to be generated when you first install it like normal and set it up. Copy the SecurIt.dat from \windows and the SecurIt.lnk from \windows\start up to your rom as well as the SecurIt.exe file. It's that simple. Enjoy!
History:
1.1: Fixed all kinds of bugs causing security to crash with various sims
1.0: Initial release
If you like my work and would like to help insure I continue to have time for this, please consider a donation to: foglemATshadowmiteDOTcom
Shadowmite, thnx for starting an "opensource" project for this. I havent tried it yet, will try once I reach home.. But I had a cpl of suggestions\questions:
1. Why do u keep email and sms phone no in plain text instead of encrypting them as well?
2. Instead of storing config in a file, store the config in registry which lessens the chances of someone finding out about the prog and deleting the file to disable security.
nice work as usual...
shantzg001 said:
Shadowmite, thnx for starting an "opensource" project for this. I havent tried it yet, will try once I reach home.. But I had a cpl of suggestions\questions:
1. Why do u keep email and sms phone no in plain text instead of encrypting them as well?
2. Instead of storing config in a file, store the config in registry which lessens the chances of someone finding out about the prog and deleting the file to disable security.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
number 2 is in the TODO list...
#1) we could encrypt them as long as it's not a one-way hash like the first 3 lines, however those are the bits of data we don't mind the theif/finder seeing afterall as they are the means to get the phone back to its rightful owner. I suppose we could hide them but the phone number will be on his next bill for sending it a SMS and the email is displayed on the locked screen.
And as walshy said, #2 is certainly on the todo, but locking our activesync connections is a bigger concern and I believe completely doable.
#1) we could encrypt them as long as it's not a one-way hash like the first 3 lines, however those are the bits of data we don't mind the theif/finder seeing afterall as they are the means to get the phone back to its rightful owner. I suppose we could hide them but the phone number will be on his next bill for sending it a SMS and the email is displayed on the locked screen.
And as walshy said, #2 is certainly on the todo, but locking our activesync connections is a bigger concern and I believe completely doable.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
ok, and sorry abt the #2, I missed the TODO part..
Keep up the good work..I myself was thinking abt making smthing similar but now I think I'll drop my idea to make a different one, as this seems to be a better idea (opensource is always better )..
I hope I can make some contribution to the code if possible..
shantzg001 said:
ok, and sorry abt the #2, I missed the TODO part..
Keep up the good work..I myself was thinking abt making smthing similar but now I think I'll drop my idea to make a different one, as this seems to be a better idea (opensource is always better )..
I hope I can make some contribution to the code if possible..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What advantages does this give over "Mobile Justice"..another similar util...my rom has Mobile Justice cooked with it which makes it hard to remove.
famewolf said:
What advantages does this give over "Mobile Justice"..another similar util...my rom has Mobile Justice cooked with it which makes it hard to remove.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you like that software and have it working properly use it. Maybe you'd like to post in every rom thread asking why not use some other rom while you're at it?
Shadowmite said:
If you like that software and have it working properly use it. Maybe you'd like to post in every rom thread asking why not use some other rom while you're at it?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm not using Mobile Justice which is WHY I asked what advantages YOURS had over theres for COMPARISON. If it had additional features I was going to recommend it for addition into XM6R3 (the next release of the current rom), but with an attitude like yours I won't bother with further review.
famewolf said:
I'm not using Mobile Justice which is WHY I asked what advantages YOURS had over theres for COMPARISON. If it had additional features I was going to recommend it for addition into XM6R3 (the next release of the current rom), but with an attitude like yours I won't bother with further review.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
you dont bother with a review but bother with a slagging ... take your "fame" somewhere else...
Ok, for starters mine isn't based on assuming every device has a GPS built in (while technically being a Trinity owner I should go that route). I instead base mine on nicely locking down the interface so far with a polite message to get the device back to the owner. Furthermore mine is trivial to build into a cooked rom which was my main reason to write it. I tried every security app out there over the last weekend without any of them working "properly" and figured the best way to get one is to write one. In addition mine is open source, mobilejustice is not.
Now then, you said you're not using it... But the last post said you had it cooked in? WTF? Need some help deciding what you use and don't use?
my rom has Mobile Justice cooked with it which makes it hard to remove.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm not using Mobile Justice which is WHY I asked what advantages YOURS had over theres for COMPARISON.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Shadowmite said:
Now then, you said you're not using it... But the last post said you had it cooked in? WTF? Need some help deciding what you use and don't use?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
1) The rom I currently have installed comes with Mobile Justice preinstalled.
2) I have not configured and am not currently using Mobile Justice
3) The author is currently taking suggestions for software to include in the next revision of their rom.
What part of any of those statements are you having difficulty comprehending?
Perhaps you and the gentleman from Melbourne should both grow up and quit reading an insult where one was not intended.
Well than back on track... Give it a try and see what you think. I really want feedback from folks outside the USA as I believe it will not properly catch your phone number of the "thief's sim" however if the sms works it should still get the phone number to you obviously.
The GPS coord. request feature is a nice one and will have to go on the todo list.
well, well, fights apart, what drew me to this app over the other apps was the opensource nature as mentioned by Shadowmite because I, like shadowmite, was not happy with the other apps doing things properly or just because I wanted somethings to be done differently..
@shadowmite:
1. I have a few ideas of getting "coordinates" and sending to the original owner even on non-GPS devices ..Maybe we can discuss some things later on once the basic structure of the app is ok.
2. Couldn't find the source code of the app on ur site..(May be am just one dim-witted dim-sighted git ) Please point me to it..
You'll need svn to get it, windows users: http://superb-west.dl.sourceforge.n...vn/TortoiseSVN-1.4.4.9706-win32-svn-1.4.4.msi
svn://www.shadowmite.com/shadowmite is my master repository for all projects.
cool, I do have TortoiseSVN installed at home..Will check it when I go back..
Will it sustain a hard re-set ? Dont think so.
@shailesh, for sustaining hard resets, it has to be cooked into the rom, pointed out by shadow on post 1..
I don't know if something else can be done for this (writing into ext rom is one option but that is not possible for most devices now)
Sounds like a great piece of software. And open source is a great idea too.
I did tried several others like this one (Eye on the thef, Ultimately Theft Alert ...) some features were still missing :
First an autoconfig method :
As already said, whatever your storage methode is (file or registry), you 'll everytime lose the configuration when a hard-reset is done on the device. The only one possibility i can imagine is to store your "installer" program on extended rom with the ability to add an external config (encrypted) file as a parameter.
Installation will be handled by the autoconfig process, using this external file. Config will probably needs to be stored on extended rom too. It's not peace of cake to create an extended rom, but easier that cook a rom.
This feature won't be very helpfull if there is no way to generate a config file automaticaly base on settings done by user : kind of export process.
On standart start/soft-reset, your program will run as it does actually, but when a hard-reset, is proceed, programm will reinstall unattented and will still be running after boot... No way to easily remove it. Bad effect is that it will also be difficult to update programm/config.
Secondly, i'd like to have the a way to "format"(or encrypt) a memory card remotely.
Do you thinks those could be part of your TODO list ?
Will try it on few next days and i'm ready to help you translating it in french
hi shantzg001,
thanks for replying,
My mistake, did not read the whole text.
Hi there! I'm looking for a good anti theft software for my X1. I have already tried several ones. I'd like to know your opinion, what you are using and what you can recommend and WHY. Here's what I've tried: Ultimate Theft Alert, SmartProtect and WIMP. I have also tried Smartphone Tracker which was the best IMO but it's not antitheft, just tracking. What I absolutely need to have is the following:
-Notify on SIM change
-Determine GPS Coordinates
-Not easy removable (Or it should be possible ot make it hard to remove manually)
Nice to have:
-Send Google Maps link with the location
-Live tracking
-Several commandos to lock phone etc...
-Remote control over internet instead of SMS
-Get image of the cam that captures you during videocalls, so you can see the thief if he looks at the phone in that very moment
I hope you have some suggestions to make. You can also suggest the software I've already tried, but tell me WHY. So far I didn't get Ultimate Theft Alert to work at all. WIMP works well but offers too little and it's quite slow. SmartProtect has a crappy interface. The last 2 can be uninstalled through "Remove Programs" and are fully unfunctional afterwards - bull****.
Thank you for your help!
that sounds like some crazy FBI stuff
lol i would be more then happy to get my hands on that
but for phones i duno if theres any good enough trackers
qritikal said:
that sounds like some crazy FBI stuff
lol i would be more then happy to get my hands on that
but for phones i duno if theres any good enough trackers
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
SmartProtect is for free. You can find it on XDA. This is nothing special nor has it anything to do with FBI. It's basically about catching incoming messages, recognizing SIM change and determining GPS Position. Basic stuff. There are a lot of these apps out there. The developers are just to bad to produce something very good, or I haven't found it yet, which is more likely. That's why I opened this thread.
Smartphone tracker
Sprite Terminator works well
WIMP is what you need. I have it installed on mine in stealth mode.
http://www.wimp-software.co.uk/
RemoteTracker
Firefall! said:
Hi there! I'm looking for a good anti theft software for my X1. I have already tried several ones. I'd like to know your opinion, what you are using and what you can recommend and WHY. Here's what I've tried: Ultimate Theft Alert, SmartProtect and WIMP. I have also tried Smartphone Tracker which was the best IMO but it's not antitheft, just tracking. What I absolutely need to have is the following:
-Notify on SIM change
-Determine GPS Coordinates
-Not easy removable (Or it should be possible ot make it hard to remove manually)
Nice to have:
-Send Google Maps link with the location
-Live tracking
-Several commandos to lock phone etc...
-Remote control over internet instead of SMS
-Get image of the cam that captures you during videocalls, so you can see the thief if he looks at the phone in that very moment
I hope you have some suggestions to make. You can also suggest the software I've already tried, but tell me WHY. So far I didn't get Ultimate Theft Alert to work at all. WIMP works well but offers too little and it's quite slow. SmartProtect has a crappy interface. The last 2 can be uninstalled through "Remove Programs" and are fully unfunctional afterwards - bull****.
Thank you for your help!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Remotetracker is very nice, afik it has most of your needs , and I see it is not listed for removing in control panel so it is hidden actually. Opensorce and free! try it http://remotetracker.sourceforge.net/
Firefall! said:
The last 2 can be uninstalled through "Remove Programs" and are fully unfunctional afterwards - bull****.
Thank you for your help!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The first thing I would do if I want to steal an WM phone un-notice is flash it w/ any rom via SD method then render all those software useless
jackleung said:
The first thing I would do if I want to steal an WM phone un-notice is flash it w/ any rom via SD method then render all those software useless
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah for sure, but we're not talking about thiefs who actually know what a ROM/Hardreset/Flash is. You should consider that out of 100 people maybe 1 person knows how to mess with a well-hidden Antitheft Software. So if the software is working properly you should stand a 99% chance to get your moible back, and that's quite worth the 2 MB of space it consumes.
THanks to the others for your suggestions. I'll try RemoteTracker then. BuddyLee, what do you like about WIMP? I don't really see any advantages, what can you do with it apart from locating your phone?
Any other suggestions are ALWAYS welcome!
i think gpsgate would be god.
It uses imei and (wifi or gprs) . log on the gpsgate page and see where is phone. if its cooked in for YOurself remember to turn off the service after reboot to save battery.
so if the phone will be stolen they will insert ovn card and as soon phone gets wifi or gprs it will send location .
cos if sim card is changed YOu cant send sms to phone
arnisv said:
i think gpsgate would be god.
It uses imei and (wifi or gprs) . log on the gpsgate page and see where is phone. if its cooked in for YOurself remember to turn off the service after reboot to save battery.
so if the phone will be stolen they will insert ovn card and as soon phone gets wifi or gprs it will send location .
cos if sim card is changed YOu cant send sms to phone
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
SW that needs a portal to see your location sucks. If they're bankrupt, your phone is lost. Good anti-theft SW detects SIM change and notifies you - you will find this in my 1st post in necessary features. It means that the SW checks the SIM on boot and if it'a different, it sends an SMS to a predefined number. Obviously, the SMS will be sent over the thief's number and as the receiver you will see his number then. That's the main point of anti-theft-SW.
Firefall! said:
Yeah for sure, but we're not talking about thiefs who actually know what a ROM/Hardreset/Flash is. You should consider that out of 100 people maybe 1 person knows how to mess with a well-hidden Antitheft Software. So if the software is working properly you should stand a 99% chance to get your moible back, and that's quite worth the 2 MB of space it consumes.
THanks to the others for your suggestions. I'll try RemoteTracker then. BuddyLee, what do you like about WIMP? I don't really see any advantages, what can you do with it apart from locating your phone?
Any other suggestions are ALWAYS welcome!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well for me all i wanted it for was incase I lose my xperia i can find it back.
Its installed and all program links, remove programs from the list and other detection are gone (stealth mode only way you notice it is if you go into the windows directory when you hook it up to the computer ... meanwhile its some funny name that you would never think its that)
It texts you everytime the sim is changed to give your their new number + gps cordinates
Thats basically it for me with my needs for lojack
I'm using RemoteTracker. Best about it, that you can make it Hardreset safe if you cook it into your ROM.
I have Ultimate Theft Alert, it has few glitches, most notably the GPS not sending the longitude (therefore useless).
But it takes remote commands, can be cooked in rom, sends phones and sms's from the thief and stuff. Pretty powerful and at discount is very cheap.
If they fix the gps glitch (which they said are working on), it'll be perfect.
enterfornone said:
I have Ultimate Theft Alert, it has few glitches, most notably the GPS not sending the longitude (therefore useless).
But it takes remote commands, can be cooked in rom, sends phones and sms's from the thief and stuff. Pretty powerful and at discount is very cheap.
If they fix the gps glitch (which they said are working on), it'll be perfect.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Don't get it , why not using a free open source program, when it works just fine and is very very smart? there you can make changes if you need, can or have money to make some one do it for you!
I see your suggestions vary. I have installed Sprite Terminator meanwhile and so far it seems to be the best one among all that were mentioned - if it works the way it should. I have been abroad, so I didn't want to test the features because I don't have unlimited money cheat enabled in my life But I will test it tomorrow. UI and features look great though, uninstallation is password-protected and configuration is simple and effective. I will post my experiences as soon as I've tested it regarding GPS performance and command processing.
why not try smart phone tracker?
it does fine...and its free too
I've tried the GPS of Sprite Terminator now and I'm very pleased but there is one disadvantage, the link provided in the message uses a Website of the manufacturer to display the location (using Google Maps). Direct link to Google Maps would be far better... But apart from that, it's just perfect!
I love this program. It can be configured in so many ways and the options are so easy and clear to understand.
I have Protection Edition Version 3.7.0.8 thats newer then the 3.7.0.7 they are selling on there websight at http://www.pocketshield.net/activate.aspx for a sale price of $5.
I think they stopped supporting it. Its a real bummer for me that I can not activate because I had to hard reset again and pocket shield is not liking my original activation code and email. They have not responded to my many emails I sent using the program itself and the contact page on there websight and my yahoo account too. I see they are selling it for only $5 now. I cant find a crack or keygen so I will soon be forced to buy it again. Kind of makes me mad.
I have tried many many other screen lock programs but none come close to pocket shield. They just dont cover all possible situations like PS does.
Does any one have any info on there current standing with us windows mobile users? Have they totally dropped the ball? It would be nice if they would put out a keygen or free version because it seems like they are abandoning us.
They have not abandond us!
It was months ago that I had the problem of them not responding. Today I tried one last time sending them an email about an activation problem. Purposely leaving out any further data. They responded fast asking what program. I re sent my original text with my email and registration code and they responded fast saying I should re try registration now. I did and it worked. I will never know what happened to cause a no response but now I am happy again they have not abandoned us. Thank you pocket shield.
Dude, I was wondering should I buy this software or not, cuz using the full trial verison, got me very high immpresions about PS 3.7.0.7 . If any other simillar program got near PS that was without a doubt S2U2 latest version, but not close enough. The latest S2U2 version (I think its 2.43 if I'm correct) it is not that battery hungry like previous versions, it is much more stable than any other previous versions of S2U2 and it is not eating RAM like previous versions did.
About PocketShield, I did a lots of reading and researching is it good, is it battery friendly, etc. Then I got the trial version of 3.7.0.7 and cuz in those 14 trial period days I didn't have that much time to watch the battery respond to this program. So I will ask you for a little feedback and help with this program:
1. Is it a battery friendly program?
2. Is it a RAM friendly program?
3. What is your personal experiance with using it?
4. Where did you get version 3.7.0.8? When I d/l form their site, it said 3.7.0.7 , but when I install it, it says 3.7.0.6.
If you used S2U2 2.43 you can make a comparassion with that with answering my questions. I have Samsung Omnia i900 with custom light rom WM6.5.3
Thank you in advance
Boris.
1. Is it a battery friendly program?
Yes in fact your battery will last longer with it.
2. Is it a RAM friendly program?
I dont know. I had not noticed any problems here.
3. What is your personal experience with using it?
Most of the time its fine but every 5 months or so it Slows the phone down at times reinstalling it is the only thing I found to get it back to normal.
4. Where did you get version 3.7.0.8? When I d/l form their site, it said 3.7.0.7 , but when I install it, it says 3.7.0.6.
I installed 3.7.0.7 and checked after install and it says its 3.7.0.8
S2U2 does not have near as may options and is not as capable. Once you set up PS to do exactly what you want when you want you will be willing to pay any price for it. It truely does cover all situations and will not let you down.
travissand said:
I think they stopped supporting it. Its a real bummer for me that I can not activate because I had to hard reset again and pocket shield is not liking my original activation code and email. They have not responded to my many emails I sent using the program itself and the contact page on there websight and my yahoo account too. I see they are selling it for only $5 now. I cant find a crack or keygen so I will soon be forced to buy it again. Kind of makes me mad.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well, I came across this page as I found myself in the same situation as above. I recently had to re-install PocketShield v3.7.0.8 after flashing my HTC HD2 to the latest CrossbowHD2 Rom, and realised that I could no longer register my purchased software online. I believe that there's either a count on the number of times you are allowed to use the PIN code for activation, or how many times it is used within a time period before it gets deactivated permanently by JDB.
So like travissand, I sent email after email to JDB and got no response. It's very frustrating because this is the only software I've purchased and installed on my Windows Mobile phone that requires online activation. To add insult to injury, I didn't get it at the current discounted price either.
Driven to desperation, I started searching online for hacks or cracks for this program, none of them worked. Fortunately in the process, I learnt enough to finally figured out what the program activation code checks for. Since I have a backup of my previous phone including it's registry, I was able to modify the necessary registry keys to finally get my new reinstalled PocketShield v3.7.0.8 activated and out of trial/bug mode offline, without requiring server authentication.
I know it only costs $5 to get a new license (assuming they are still handing those out) but I don't really feel like paying another dime when I legitimately paid for and did not pirate the software, Several Windows Mobile developers are simply giving away their previously commercial software since WM5/6 is considered a legacy system. I also hate it that when (not if) JDB decides to take their authentication server offline, you not only can't re-install and activate their software anymore, neither can you switch skins. FYI, you MUST be online to download the skins catalog and to install a skin, even if it was one that you had previously downloaded and installed before. As I mentioned, this is the only Windows Mobile program that I own which has this ridiculous requirement.
[Edit] Don't bother asking me for the Windows Mobile registry keys that the program checks or my license key, PIN or email. This is not just because I don't wish to pirate the program, but also because I believe the activation is hardware specific and wouldn't work on another device... a nasty form of copy protection. Urgh!