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really really dodgey xda exec

Sorry if guys are tired of these threads about the dodgey operations of the xda exec, but mine really got to me tonight.
I only had 3 software installed on mine, pocket informant rev 3, spb diary, spb pocket plus. It was running ok with these 3 software, abit slower than i expected but ok. However i never thought it was totally stable, sometimes it would jus freeze, it would happen to me quite a few times a day, and as mentioned by some other users, it would take around 3 or 4 soft resets to get it back up. I have ordered a replacement from o2 and they said they going to send one but it might take a while as there is none in stock!
I thought id play around with this one for abit, try and get the most efficient set up going so i could do it on my new one. I read a post about Lakeridge WisBar advance and thought id give it a try. I installed and then it froze, i thought a soft reset would fix, but no, i must have tried to soft reset it over 15 times and the cloest i got to the today screen was the sim card pin screen which was half covered by the o2 boot screen so i couldnt even enter the pin. Then i thought o well going to have to do a hard reset, so i tried it and it didnt work, i did the hard reset and it froze at the o2 boot screen. I did it again and it did work. But how dodgy is this pda man!

Install it in Corporate mode and just install needed cabs only, especially the one with connection. Use if for a few days to see if the problems persist, the crap 02 interface may well be one of the main problems.
Mine works fine, this is a great device but also need a lot of tweaks to work well, if you want a good "out of the box" experience then this isn't the kind of phone for you.
BTW, don't install Pocket Plus, it will slow down your Exec as hell.

As above but consider not using the Spb software.
It caused all sorts of memory leaks/crashing on mine over the course of about 3 days of testing.
In addition it also rather annoyingly consistently failed to work right when the phone was resumed after a long delay ie over night.

My dopod 900 running perfectly well and fast even with 5 programs on the background. Guess the way WM5.0 handle the memory usage is different than previous OS did.
Spb pocket plus really slow down my machine, now i'm using my without any task closing utility at all and it runs smoothly.

h,im using dopod 900 for only less then a week.i really find this dopod 900 are much more stable than all xda PDA.
i tot its gonna be the same like xda which always hang or Jam,amazing it work so well.

Dopod900 definitely run way stable compare to Exec or I-mate. I didn't quite face the same problem they mentioned here. Guess O2 and I-mate has mess up their rom after the customization. The other reason could be that Dopod is directly link to HTC so they have the access to the deepest on the programming on this machine.

yep... SPB Pocket Plus causes crashes... :x
Just tried to install the SPB pocket plus 3 on my xda Exec, and after quite a few failed installation attempts -- I should have stopped there -- where for the first time in over a month (when attempting to instasll new s/w) the installation consistently failed. I took a break and decided to have one last go.
This time it did work. During the installation it warned me about installing it on the Storage card: that the card driver has to be initialysed prior to activation of the prog.
The installation finished.
Well after that I tried to open the prog... it didn't work, and the device wasn't responding.
My next step was a soft reset, but it halted in mid-process.
There followed a few attempts again of soft reseting the device - but it kept halting at the same stage...
So for the first time - after testing my device for over a month with many programs - I needed to do a Hard reset :!: :x
This is really annoying! I have read before that SPB is slightly problematic and slows the device down... to put it mildly - I am NOT impressed :!: :!: :!: :evil:

I saw on another thread about Pocket Hack Master for overclocking the Universal. You might want to give it a try.
I also tried SPB Pocket plus, but was dismayed by how slow it made my EXEC. I deleted it off in less than a minute.

jus recieved my new xda exec from o2 this morning. Installed corporate settings and keeping all 3rd party apps off for the mo and see how it runs. Will keep you guys posted.

What an awful device!!

Hello,
I bought the prophet 200 (xda neo) hoping it would turn out to be a decent device that provides speed as well as endurance in terms of cpu and battery. Unfortunately was badly dissapointed in both factors.
I installed the newest DOPOD rom.
Here are some apps that I installed:
Pocket Plus
Pocket diary
TCPM
Skype
Resco Explorer
Opera
Agile messenger
spb backup
news break
my problems with the device is that I have the feeling that it operates way too slow. This is the first time I own a PDA so it might be my preception that is deluding me.
a couple of examples: If I scroll down the contact list it goes rather slow and laggy. It takes quite a few seconds if I start up an application like opera, IE or skype. Sometimes the start menue pops down only very slow.
Resco File explorer starts slow and takes a while to perform an operation.
Using Pocket Informant is almost impossible beacuse it takes 6 Seconds or so until the app is started and the navigation through the app itself is very slow. (if i want to add a contact it takes 4 seconds until the forms are loaded)
Same applies to Fusion Agenda.
Talking with skype almost does not work at all. When I make a call i cannot adjust the volume anymore or it reacts like 20 seconds later and flips out on me. I cannot end a call because the device almost crashes and it takes 10 seconds to get it back. The other person can barely hear me.
There is another thing regarding battery drainage.
Let me give you an example, If I have just finished charing the device and it displays a battery charge of 100% I unplug it and 1 minute later it goes down by 1% to 99 - an additional minute and the battery meter displays 98. By the end of the day i seem to have a charge of maybe 40% while using the device for maybe 1 hour intensly and the rest just phone standby with maybe 2 calls of 2 min avrg length.
On top i noticed that the left side of the device gets a littel warm when I am using the device extensively or charging it. Is that also normal?
Whats the deal with my device? i dont know a whole lot about pda's. Is that a normal power consumption?
How can I measure if my device performs well in terms of CPU speed because I have the feeling it also runs slow.
please help

To make your prophet more responsive, go here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=40404
As for the battery issue, not sure what to suggest.

after I overlocked my XDA neo (with JAMin WWE ROM) to 252 mhz, I found it runs all programs very smoothly. I can open media player, and read novels at the same time, switch between all the running programs is very smooth and fast. compared with my another PDA (intel Xscal 400 MHZ CPU), I could not see big difference.

Times you mention are quite realistic. My Qtek S200 performs at about the same speed (program startup times) and I can live with it. To improve a little, try to use some task manager to see if you have cpu-intensive programs or today plugins running. also, close programs instead of minimizing them (use magic button, gs pocket magic or else).
Concerning battery, mine seem to last longer. Do you have a dual sim adapter? I found out it was draining my battery very fast also in flight mode.
If you do not need voice dial, there is a thread in these forums about uninstalling it and magically getting a fast keyboard switch (no more 6 s waiting for changing from phonepad to handwriting recognition).
Hope that helps.

Poket plus really hog the CPU. especially the today plug in. I had the same isues. just enable only 1 tab, delete all the other plug in tab for pocket plus. use the meter that you need only. I only use storage meter and it sppeds up quite significant. either that or use resco's today plug in if memory meter is all you need.

As with almost all Pocket PCs out there, I bet you are suffering from the well-known-not-too-mentioned bug of Windows Mobile 5 (inherited from WM3) where the notification database starts accumulating duplicate entries and in a few days, you'll end up having hundreds of duplicate entries, rendering the device almost useless.
You need something like Memaid or similar app to get rid of the duplicate entries. (There are some freewares out there).
Also, make sure you move all your data (and install most apps) into SD RAM, not the internal RAM. You'll get better performance when you keep your PDA above 10-13 megs of program memory.
Just a few pointers...
Best regards,
Rayan

arg0 said:
If you do not need voice dial, there is a thread in these forums about uninstalling it and magically getting a fast keyboard switch (no more 6 s waiting for changing from phonepad to handwriting recognition).
Hope that helps.
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Hi, Can you point me to the post you are mentioning? I have been searching high and low for it but I cannot find it.
I have a Dopod 818 Pro and have Cyberon Voice Commander installed. I uninstalled it yet the 6s delay in switching input modes seems to be still there. I have tried to remove all DLLs and traces of it from the registry, yet have been unsuccessful in removing the 6s delay.
Can you please help?
Thanks

I haven't used the dopod rom but with the newest imate rom (from May06 I think?), the SIP delay is gone. Also, it seems that several of your 3rd party apps are resource hogs. The jamin can function quite well if not trying to run too many today plugins.

Hi thank you for the reply
Actually, I won't like to flash an imate rom to my device as I don't want to take any chances with it. It cost me a lot of money and I want to play it as much by the book as I can hehe..
Other than that, is there a way? I know that this delay has always been there, even when the device was brand new and was running no 3rd party today plugins. It's great that imate managed to solve the issue. Maybe Dopod will get on the ball and do something about it too. I hope so.

Prophet freezes when switching on.

I just sold my XDA Exec and bought an SPV M600 and I'm loving it!
It actually fits in my pocket and does pretty much everything the Exec did - plus the battery life is SOOOOOOOOO much better.
My only gripe is this: occassionally when I turn it on, it freezes for about 5-10 seconds. I'm usually tapping away at the screen during this time, and after 5-10 seconds it "catches up" and processes all my taps and basically goes mad opening stuff up.
It has been doing this this since I bought it - usually 2 or 3 times a day so I doubt it's any of the software I've installed.
I'm using the latest Dopod ROM.
I'm have Magic Button, the batteystatus plug in (my device is overclocked to 260mhz from 195mhz using OMAP), TodayScheme Changer and I'm also using the Launcher plug in.
If anyone can help I'd really appreciate it, this isn't a major problem but I'd like to solve it anyway,
Thanks.

Have you tried your Prophet without all those apps installed? Specially the TodayTheme Changer and BatteryStatus plugin since those two apps run on the today screen and that's pretty much the first thing that hogs the system bigtime, specially on the slow prophet.
I know you have overclocked it but today plugins tend to overload the processor a lot.
Obviously there's some process that's taking some time to release the system. This I've never seen on mine, but I'm sure you have some app that's causing this.
Just a thought.

Thanks for your reply Rayan, but I also had this problem before I had installed anything. To be fair it hasn't been doing it much lately so I reckon I can live with the odd delay now and again.

Mine s freezes when i Install Net Framework 2 , can anyone have the same situation ? I think the problem is Net Framework 2.0 ...

I don't have Net Framework 2 installed. I found that Magic Button wasn't closing Internet Explorer properly, so I reinstalled it and it works much better now. I think IE was the main culprit. Are there any decent browsers out there? I tried Opera but didn't really get on with it.

try NetFront I like !

universal fails to start sometimes

Hi,
I'm very happy with my universal (wifi and vga in pocketsize) only one thing is driving me crazy.
every, say once in 10 times the universal won't start when I press the power button. (after it turning off automatically after a few minutes when on battery power). Worse yet, it doesn't accept phonecalls and smses anymore either..so it already crashed silently. Unfortunately you can't see this from the outside since the lights still flash. I only notice it crashed when trying to start the device.
I've updated to wm6 because I thought it was a wm5 issue, but it wouldn't help. I also updated to radio 1.13 (the orange radio stack as found on this site). But this too, didn't fix it.
does anybody else have the same problem?? This problem renders my whole device unuseful. =^(
thanks!
Reinier

Welcome to the club...looks like no solution on this one yet. Here is a link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=272938
Some say it might be incompatibility with the SD card, but not in my case.

Hi,
that doesn't sound too good.
Anyhow, I'll experiment with it some more (what else can one do?) to see what is making it crash more or less (wifi/sdcard/simcard/battery?)
I'll post my findings... maybe we can find some mutual thing which might be causing it
I doubt it is software related since my whole machine is wiped clean and has nothing on it
R

yes, me too...and it seems to get worst as time goes by...anyways, I suggest that if you have any warranty left to send it back for warranty. GOodluck!

thats a pretty good point... ;^)
I'll check.
too bad it's quite vague description:
yes, sometimes it doesn't powerup..
you can already see the technicians there... they try it 4 times, it works everytime (of course) , and they send it back with a sticker saying 'correct'
ah well.... lets not get ahead of time.
r

Solutn found...check your PM

Check battery charge level

hi, i didn´t experienced that problem, but when i start up my device, sometimes, the start-up is really slow and the screen gets white but finally, i mena 2 or 3 seconds´ time it becomes normal.
Is that what experienced?
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Solutn found...check your PM
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What do u mean with PM?
DId u get the solution?
See ya folks

Solution
Check you PM means check ur private messages
A fellow here with the same problems sent his device for repair and the problem was voltage control unit of mainboard
Solution:
1. Install Pocket Hack Master and go to settings and disable the CPU scaling of the device. Then set it to start at startup. Then clock your device at 312 mhz before turning off the device or closing the clamshell. You can always clock it to 520 while using cpu intensive applications. Just make sure to set it at 312 before turning it off.

thank you buddy

Jumanji1212
Did it also work for you? I forgot to add that I am also using an external charger specifically for Universal because Im afraid charging it via miniusb might mess up the voltage control unit more.

Well, i normally charge it with the ac/dc adaptor but not always. Since i deleted spb diary today plug-in and installed the latest qtek spanish rom and radio, the time of the white-screen shorten.

clemsyn said:
Check you PM means check ur private messages
A fellow here with the same problems sent his device for repair and the problem was voltage control unit of mainboard
Solution:
1. Install Pocket Hack Master and go to settings and disable the CPU scaling of the device. Then set it to start at startup. Then clock your device at 312 mhz before turning off the device or closing the clamshell. You can always clock it to 520 while using cpu intensive applications. Just make sure to set it at 312 before turning it off.
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Hello, I have the same problem (Power button does not start after an auto sleep).
My qtek 9000 however gives a blank screen when playing with the PHM speed tests. (When it is plugged in it works.)
Now I am a little afraid to do the "set it to start at startup"
Is there no risk it will never startup anymore?
Can I do this (temporaly) just for testing without the auto startup option?
So: disable CPU scaling and set the speed on 312 and put it in sleep mode.
I need my Qtek so badly that I get horribly stressed with this kind of things.
Huib

This thing hangs more than a....well something that hangs about 4 or 5 times a day...

Seriously unimpressed so far.
This thing has hung 5 or 6 times at least today (day 3....) and about the same yesterday
If this keeps up, I'm binning it and reverting to HD
Unbelievable!

What did you do ? Any pattern ?

blackb1ade said:
Seriously unimpressed so far.
This thing has hung 5 or 6 times at least today (day 3....) and about the same yesterday
If this keeps up, I'm binning it and reverting to HD
Unbelievable!
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Not much info there, my pictures hang up... on the wall everyday.
What are you doing? What have you been doing? Is it due to memory being full (as apps aren't closing)

Maybe I'm not hip to the slang but what do you mean it "hangs" or "hung"?

You must have a duff unit!
Well mine has been completely spot on!
Maybe its something you have installed causing issues? Try uninstalling things one by one to see if that rectifies any problems you may have.

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Maybe I'm not hip to the slang but what do you mean it "hangs" or "hung"?
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"Hangs" means "crashes" or, more precisely "becomes completely and permanently unresponsive to anything less than a soft reset".

Possibly - and yeah, I know, that's next port of call TBH - it's just really pissing me off at the moment - NONE of my other HTC devices have ever behaved like this.
Just for the record, I've figured out exactly WHAT makes it hang - I open file explorer and navigate to the 'Windows' folder - bang....I get the rotating four colours and it's back off/battery out AGAIN
Thus far I've only installed Kinomaplay (which ISN'T behaving as it should IMO....although it performs it's media functions perfectly)
Coreplayer - which works ok
SPB Time - again, works 'ok' (both are really f..king fiddly to use/setup with this screen - which is ANOTHER thing I'm not impressed with at all - I've had an iPhone in the past - [capacative] screen response was perfect - this one?? have to jab at it several times sometimes to get the desired result and accuracy just isn't good for smaller targets)
One thing I have noticed is - I've only installed those 3 programs but almost all the device memory is used up!?? Unsure if that would cause an issue with it hanging and I've had loads more than this installed onto mt HD and was nowhere near the device memory limitations.
Hmmm....

blackb1ade said:
Possibly - and yeah, I know, that's next port of call TBH - it's just really pissing me off at the moment - NONE of my other HTC devices have ever behaved like this.
Just for the record, I've figured out exactly WHAT makes it hang - I open file explorer and navigate to the 'Windows' folder - bang....I get the rotating four colours and it's back off/battery out AGAIN
Thus far I've only installed Kinomaplay (which ISN'T behaving as it should IMO....although it performs it's media functions perfectly)
Coreplayer - which works ok
SPB Time - again, works 'ok' (both are really f..king fiddly to use/setup with this screen - which is ANOTHER thing I'm not impressed with at all - I've had an iPhone in the past - [capacative] screen response was perfect - this one?? have to jab at it several times sometimes to get the desired result and accuracy just isn't good for smaller targets)
One thing I have noticed is - I've only installed those 3 programs but almost all the device memory is used up!?? Unsure if that would cause an issue with it hanging and I've had loads more than this installed onto mt HD and was nowhere near the device memory limitations.
Hmmm....
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I really would consider that you may have a duff unit. There are loads of peoeple on here who advise the screen is too responsive! Plus the lack of memory sounds like the biggest issue.
When you navigate to the windows folder, do you actually let it load or do you just leave it? Reason I ask is that there are thousands of files in there and it does take a while to read them. It did on my HD anyway.
Seems like when reg edits have been done to get task manager working how we are all used to it, should be working better.
Oh, software is made for resistive screens so some presses wont register as the software is more than likely looking for a more presice tap rather than a finer splodged over the actual area its looking for a response in. Should be fine later down the line when more things are brought to capacitive screens.
Hope it all works out for ya

That is true - the menus are a little small for finger use - so it will be a case of waiting I guess.
I removed all the progs that I'd installed already (includng 'microsoft my phone' - forgot about that one)
Screen is very responsive most of the time - but then sometimes it just seems to space out- almost like you catch it off guard - not what I'd expect frankly
It does eventually load the windows folder in explorer - but it takes about 2 1/2 mins to do so - no other folder does that to it, nor any other action - and it wasn't doing that up until yesterday
Hard reset next [if i can figure out how...] - if that doesn't yield significant improvement then it's back to TCR for an exchange (provided some more units have turned up by now!!)
Cheers though

Definitely a problem there, my windows folder loads instantly.

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Definitely a problem there, my windows folder loads instantly.
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+1 ...... Mine loads in a split second

My phone doesnt hangs, but my /windows folder takes about 1/2 minutes in load.

No problems here either. One recommendation though for those with slow file list loading: try to enable and up the caches (which are stock) with Advanced Config. You will gain some more speed!

Hard reset and we're back to full speed again - I guess it was one of the programs that was screwing it up - thanks all for the 'benchmark'
I'm a bit suspicious that it was kinomaplay, as that was [occasionally]interfering with other operations by overlaying itself on top at times and was hard to get out of that loop as the 'X' [close] box wasn't always *really* there (only shown on screen but no actual function)
I might try it[kinomaplay] again - only this time try and figure out why it associates itself with image files that I'd rather the OE windows prog opened.
Thanks for the tip on Adv.Config Tnyynt - TBH I'd not tried to load that one yet, I'll try that in a sec though (it was a godsend on the HD)
There was definitely something funny going on with the memory space on the device, as after the hard reset I'm back up to '116MB free of 181MB' - whereas, even once I'd uninstalled all that had been added - and deleted additional ringtone wavs - I only managed to get a max. of 53MB available showing.

blackb1ade said:
Hard reset and we're back to full speed again - I guess it was one of the programs that was screwing it up - thanks all for the 'benchmark'
I'm a bit suspicious that it was kinomaplay, as that was [occasionally]interfering with other operations by overlaying itself on top at times and was hard to get out of that loop as the 'X' [close] box wasn't always *really* there (only shown on screen but no actual function)
I might try it[kinomaplay] again - only this time try and figure out why it associates itself with image files that I'd rather the OE windows prog opened.
Thanks for the tip on Adv.Config Tnyynt - TBH I'd not tried to load that one yet, I'll try that in a sec though (it was a godsend on the HD)
There was definitely something funny going on with the memory space on the device, as after the hard reset I'm back up to '116MB free of 181MB' - whereas, even once I'd uninstalled all that had been added - and deleted additional ringtone wavs - I only managed to get a max. of 53MB available showing.
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Sounds like Kinomaplay is searching and associating with files in the background. I think it may be set to do that by default but you can tell it not to in the settings - only trouble is you may have to wait for it to do it's thing as not sure if you can interrupt it. I got so fed up with the programme on the HD I trashed it - lovely interface though

Strange thing with Windows folder loading, with the "normal" Explorer it takes my device a very long time too (first few times did a soft reset because i thought it was hung also), but with Total Commander explorer the Windows folder is there instantly, sounds like Explorer runs into something, just have to figure out what though.
Crazy . . . . . . . . . . .

Mine takes just a split second to load windows folder!
But it crashes 2 - 3 times a day! Without doing nothing! When i try to unlock it, screen wont go on! Battery off, here we go again! And i got the no sound problem.. After 3-5 calls, i car hear what others are saying but they cant hear a word from me!! This is happening all time.. (tested all this even with stock rom and no apps installed or any tweak etc..)
I read here in the forums that other people have similar problems..And in italy the distribution stopped because of defected rom??
Some say it heppened in france too.. (allthough i live in greece, i got mine sent from france, expansys headquarters..)
So maybe its roms problem? Or just me having a possible defected device..?
Any of you with freezing problems etc..??

Some hangs and freezes in here too, latest was this morning when I had my phone plugged in the charged over night. I tried waking up the phone to check time so I press the power button: Button lights go on but no image on screen, had to take out battery and restart the phone.
Also I have had a few random hangs that required a soft reset too. I have installed the Electopia demo and the OpenGL speed tester. Also installed .net compact framework 3.5 because an app from marketplace said to require it.
I hope HTC takes care of this issues in an upcoming rom update! Otherwise the phone seems fine, although maybe a bit slower that I've seen in the pre-production reviews and videos which is odd...

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Some hangs and freezes in here too, latest was this morning when I had my phone plugged in the charged over night. I tried waking up the phone to check time so I press the power button: Button lights go on but no image on screen, had to take out battery and restart the phone.
Also I have had a few random hangs that required a soft reset too. I have installed the Electopia demo and the OpenGL speed tester. Also installed .net compact framework 3.5 because an app from marketplace said to require it.
I hope HTC takes care of this issues in an upcoming rom update! Otherwise the phone seems fine, although maybe a bit slower that I've seen in the pre-production reviews and videos which is odd...
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I noticed that the hangs have something to do with the charging of the phone,no matter if its via usb or power pluged. Thanks for confirming though.. This is MAJOR issue for me..You think that your phone is ok in your pockets but it is shut down!!
About the sound problem i mentioned before?

Knock on wood my HD2 is rocksolid for now! Everything is fast and stable!