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Does anyone experience the free program memory problems in XDA Mini? In my case, after a day of usage, the memory reduce to 14 mb, when doing a soft reset, the free program memory go up to 24 mb, means I need to soft reset every days?
Note: normally I use the phone, Pocket Informant (calendar, contacts) and sms only.
Instead of doing soft reset, just go into:
Settings - System - Memory - (Running Programs tab).
You'll probably find a lot of open programs there. Close them.
Seems to be a major design fault in the Windows Mobile OS. But then again this is product from Microsoft we are talking about - not exactly a shock that they would, without hesitation, release software with such a major failing.
I think what IvorNeo 2 means is that even without any active programs, the storage/program memory will become very low over time. This has happened to me as well. With only Activesync and Batmon 2 active, memory level fell to sub-500K level and phone needed a soft-reset to regain functionality. Phone was not in use at the time (charging).
There are some other threads discussing how to free up memory, but I haven't come across any fixes for this particular bug (yet).
i have the same problem
in my s100 , the memory reduce to 19 mb,after 2 or 3 days when doing a soft reset, the free program memory go up to 27 mb
mhtay
There are some other threads discussing how to free up memory, but I haven't come across any fixes for this particular bug (yet).
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Very nice , if someone can solve this bug
Regards
For me there are are 3 reasons why memory starts to decline:
Activesync eats up about 3MB each time you sync up and though it returns some when you kill the app it does not return the entire amount
html cache files when I surf with the device - gotta empty these along with the cookies...etc
duplicate processes and notification ques that pile up when you soft-reset the device. Over time these tiny bytes add up.
There's no fix for the main culprit of the memory loss - Activesync, maybe newer versions won't be so bad.
the same problem to me, I`m nor sure if it`s beacuse of aactive sync
This happens to my girlfriend's Mini and she does not browse nor does she use Activesync. Also I installed a program to get rid of the duplicate ques. In theory then she should not lose memory but she still does. It is just how Windows works....when you use programs you never get back 100% of the memory upon closing. Soft resets are just a necessary evil with Windows.
The latest version of SKTools has an additional neat feature to free-up RAM.
sk tools very useful program
but even this one works not so good as a soft reset.
Or with 64 mb RAM you can use oxios memory
http://www.oxios.com/memory/
be sure your programm memory less than 21mb while trying to free your memory up.
I have quite a lot of programs installed, most of them in Storage and TT5.x in SD card. Most DLL's also in Storage. I set my Prog Storage memory to 6.5-7 MB and I have over 30 MB for programs after applying SKTools FreeUp RAM utility.
rustoss said:
Or with 64 mb RAM you can use oxios memory
http://www.oxios.com/memory/
be sure your programm memory less than 21mb while trying to free your memory up.
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Isn't this a smartphone software? Will it work on wm5?
find out!
for magician good solution
@rustoss,
does this little applet close the running processes automatically once exitted?
thanx
hibernate.exe emulate filling memory till 90% & then system trying to clean possible RAM by itself i think so, i know exactly this action do the SKtools's freeupRAM, noone prog or process cannot be terminated by both.
closeapps.exe can!
a question about the topic: Rustoss do u have posted any prog here? because I'm not seeing it if it is
MocciJ
No, just put
Can somebody tell me why, over a couple of days of normal use, my memory drops from 17MB free for programs to about 2MB free, even though I have stopped all applications?
The only way to get it back is to do a soft reset.
If it didn't do this, I could probably live quite happily without mucking about with a big ROM or whatever.
DaveH
By the sounds of things you need a program that actually CLOSES programs. Normally WM2003 will just minimise when you hit the X button, making them quicker to open next time, but it means you have heaps of programs open at once, taking away from the ram.
SPB Pocket Plus, Wisbar Advance and a few freeware programs will take care of this problem for ya. I have Wisbar and only ever soft reset if a program crashes and locks the thing up which isn't very often at all (perhaps once a fortnight or maybe a little more often than that.)
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By the sounds of things you need a program that actually CLOSES programs. Normally WM2003 will just minimise when you hit the X button, making them quicker to open next time, but it means you have heaps of programs open at once, taking away from the ram.
SPB Pocket Plus, Wisbar Advance and a few freeware programs will take care of this problem for ya. I have Wisbar and only ever soft reset if a program crashes and locks the thing up which isn't very often at all (perhaps once a fortnight or maybe a little more often than that.)
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I also have SPB Pocketplus, but that doesn't solve the problem. After a soft reset I have about 21 Mb of program storage. After running programs like Contacts, the Phone, Calender and closing them (really closing them!) I have about 18 Mb left. I heard this is a common problem with 2002/2003/2003SE. So in my opinion the only solution is to softreset your PDA every few days...
You can use tools like Memmaid to view your running processes. There you can see that, after closing your applications, some (always running) processes have grown bigger!
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i have the similar problem under universal wm2005, my available memory slowly reduces or doesnt fully recover after each interaction, until it winds down to a slow machine, a soft reset fixes, but still frustrating that it has to be done. I have SPB 3.0, and it still occurs.
Sounds like thereś a program installed on your devices that has a memory leak. I´ve had my phone going without a soft reset for well over a week now and I have 29.1mb left as program memory. When I soft reset I start out with 29.8mb.
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Sounds like thereś a program installed on your devices that has a memory leak. I´ve had my phone going without a soft reset for well over a week now and I have 29.1mb left as program memory. When I soft reset I start out with 29.8mb.
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???
According to the amount of threads I've read about this subject I think your device is quite unique. Is phone the only application you are using? Anyway, cherish your device! (I'm not cynical...)
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even though u guys close all ur apps there r some hidden task running which takes the memory i had cexperience in which there was task manager if u see properly u will get lots of program taking up all ur memory in that u can even end task those programs
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Any actual task managers that can be located for WM2005 so that I shut down some of the running tasks would be great, any ideas on:
1. A good product to use
2. Which are "good" tasks which must be kept and which are "bad" tasks which can be shut down?
My phone's not unique in any way. I used to have the same problem for the first few months of having my phone. I then did the big storage hack, cleared up everything in main memory that wasn't need, the usual memory enhancing stuff discussed on the forum.
Now I'm really tight as to what programs stay on my phone. Anything takes away from the memory and it's gone unless it's an essential app. Not one thing is stored to main memory and these programs are what I have installed:
Wisbar Advance (latest release)
Wisbar Advance Desktop (0.7 Beta)
Resco File Explorer 5.13
psShutdownXP
Pocket Artist (trial, getting rid of it soon)
Pocket Earth (waste of space, getting rid of it)
Who wants to be a Millionaire
Ziogolf 2
PDAwin Spot
Tennis Addict
Virtual Pool Mobile
Flux Challenge
Everything except the Wisbar apps are on the sotrage card, wisbar apps are in storage. Nothing on main memory at all, even deleted the photo templates!
Like I said, I used to have memory leaks and from what I could tell at the time SPB Pocket Plus 2.5 was the main culprit for me, dunno what version 3 is like. Voice command is also a killer.
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Everything except the Wisbar apps are on the storage card, wisbar apps are in storage. Nothing on main memory at all, even deleted the photo templates!
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You mean, you installed all these programs on Storage Card of Storage? How did you do that?
As most programs will automatically install in Program Files in main storage...
try sktools for some hardcore cleaning up.
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pietrucci said:
jimmy-bish said:
Everything except the Wisbar apps are on the storage card, wisbar apps are in storage. Nothing on main memory at all, even deleted the photo templates!
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You mean, you installed all these programs on Storage Card of Storage? How did you do that?
As most programs will automatically install in Program Files in main storage...
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When you run the install program on your PC, it will ask if you want to install them in the default location. Say "No", and select the storage card as the location.
However, some programs won't work on a storage card (especially memory managers, Today plug-ins, etc). If you are installing from a CAB file directly on your PDA, it will automatically install to main memory. There are applications to fix cab files, but I have never tried them.
HI!
I was facing the same problem. My memory would go down from 22 MB to about 9 MB and once I did a soft reset it would again go up to 22 MB. I realised that the culprit was Battery Pack Pro v. 2.0. I had Battery Pack Pro v. 1.1.1 installed on my Mini and it was absolutley fine but the problem started only when I upgraded to BPP v. 2.0. I communicated with the developers of BPP - OmegaOne but they couldnt offer a solution so they refunded the money I had paid for it. Since the time I have downgraded to BPP v. 1.1.1 the Mini is working fine and no memory leak whatsoever.
I don't have BPP but I do have the following: Maybe we could find a common link to all the machines with memory leakage,
Dinarsoft MemMaid
Spb Weather (was Marsware Weatherpanel but lost even MORE memory)
TCPMP (shouldn't be that as I hardly ever use it)
Richard L. Owens FILEASFL
vCard send and receive
CDL Orange customisation
.NET pocket framework
Pocket Blox Aqua Calc
Spb Stardock Weather skin
Hudson Mobile Phone Dashboard
Spb GPRS monitor
Spb Full Screen Keyboard
ZingMagic Backgammon
Climbwalls JB Piano (not used much)
Tom Tom 3
TomTom GPS
CheckPOInt
Any thought on those apps?
I have no idea what is going on with my Exec and have to keep resetting it all the time to get back the program memory which drops to between 2 and 3mb frequently even when there are no programmes running. Is this normal?
Here is what I have installed on my Exec:
Batter Bar
Program Bar
Pocket Breeze
All the above on the Today Screen.
Besides, I have Net Front
Resco File Explorer and thats pretty much it.
Last night, when surfing with Net Front, I got the error, not enough memory to open programme and then Net front shut down. I checked, the program memory was down to 2.3mb. Closed all the open programmes (only text messages and calender were open) and also went to task manager and closed all running programmes.
Thereafter, the Progam memory went up to 3mb.
But that is where it stayed unfortunately till I ultimately had to reset it and it came back to about 16mb. After texting a little and also opening my appointments, it was down again to 10mb.
I am kind of frustrated actually..... is this expected of the Exec? On my XDA II, I always had in excess of about 50Mb available and maybe that is why it is twice as fast as the universal.
PLEASE HELP......WHAT CAN I DO? THANKS ALL.
Cheers, Vikas.
PS: Spent the last two days searching for any solution on these boards visavis old posts but didnt find out how to and hence this request.
I really really appreciate all those who can help out and thank you all in anticipation.
there isnt a solution, your screwed....
Some "options" for you to consider:
soft reset regularly to get it back
use 02 corporate not the mickey mouse retail version (I use imate)
beware of all "additional" fat that the device comes with by default
read these forums in detail (about 1 month), the sticky at the beginning of the universal forum by craigie4craigie is a really really good start though highly detailed
watch out for what you sychronise, one person had a 12 megabyte PIM file for calendars and contacts. mine was 5meg due to all the calendars, so I stopped syncing all calendards and wound it back to 1meg by doing only the last two weeks.
check your emails, mms, and text files, keep em clean and clear. if syncing emails, only sync the headers or 5kb, dont do attachments.
your today screen additions are always resource hungry, and suck memory. my SPB Pocket Plus, with Weather, and Diary sucks about 8meg (28 startup without anything to 20meg), and slowly dwindles down to 10meg when I soft reset.
As it likes to cache the entire website, I did find one circumstance where for some reason the website was absoloutely massive, with pictures, giffs, fonts etc, and this zapped my memory from 20meg to 3meg. When it closed, it went back upto 12meg.
A couple of files on this site are being tested to kill unused apps memory resources, which is slightly effective.
You really want to try and keep your boot up memory to about 20meg, and it will drop to about 10meg during a days heavy usage.
Consider getting rid off:
Batter Bar
Program Bar
I have heard elsewhere that the Batter Bar in particular wasnt good for the device. As I have never really heard of either and have read lots in these forums for a year or so, then its not a good thing that I dont know of them. Maybe somebody else here could correct it.
Generally, reliable applications that you can use are SPB, Resco, and SBSH each have their own pros and cons. SPB can slow it down also, but it isnt that extensive, and if I find I really need the speed, I just disable it from the today screen, I am beta testing the newer release at the moment.
Activesync left sync'ing all day can easily kill 10meg of my memory over the whole day.
Also, what is actually in your startups, not just the today screen. With my imate, there was about 4 on install, and I got rid of all of them entirely.
There are so many tweaks, hacks, and improvements, and modifications that can be done.
Firstly though, ensure you are in corporate mode from what I have ready about the 02 version.
Seriously think about the hard reset, then be really choosely about what you install, and to where. Test each extensively after each install.
Anyway, thats enough for the moment, let me know your opionions....
So basically I'm screwed.... dont know if I like the sound of that but am sure that is the truth. :lol:
Oh well. Simon, would like to say how much I appreciate your reply and your taking the time to write all this down, that is indeed very nice of you and thanks again for this.
Regarding your message:
1. Yup will keep resetting especially after syncing (at work my Exec is always syncing/charging so guess need to reset once a day)
2. Yup using Corporate mode and not the ghastly slow O2 active desktop
3. Read and followed the Sticky post regarding tips and tricks for the Exec, installed Pocket Mechanic and did a registry cleanup along with deleting most notifications.
4. Synced my contacts/calender etc, about 4.5 Megs
5. Sms's I delete regularly so not more thatn 30 at one time. Emails are usually deleted and hardly any on the Exec.
6. Guess my batter pack and programme bar along with pocket breeze must be using up the RAM as when I soft reset, have about 18 to 19 MB free at that point which dwindles down to about 10 mb during the course of the day. If using Active Sync and then NetFront or Opera, this goes down to about 2/3MB
7. Sorry about battery bar, but meant battery pack pro (gosh I sould like such a dolt). I should get rid of it? Along with Programme Bar? What is a good alternative? SPB POcket Plus?
8. Not much else on the Today screen, just the Battery Pack Pro, Programme Bar & Pocket Breeze thats it.
Will try out your suggestion of doing a Hard Reset and loading again selective programmes, guess I need to figure out which ones even though I like the ones I have on right now. What do you think?
Once again, can't tell you how much I appreciate your taking the time and effort to help out. Thanks a ton.
Cheers, Vikas.
simon_darley said:
there isnt a solution, your screwed....
Some "options" for you to consider:
soft reset regularly to get it back
use 02 corporate not the mickey mouse retail version (I use imate)
beware of all "additional" fat that the device comes with by default
read these forums in detail (about 1 month), the sticky at the beginning of the universal forum by craigie4craigie is a really really good start though highly detailed
watch out for what you sychronise, one person had a 12 megabyte PIM file for calendars and contacts. mine was 5meg due to all the calendars, so I stopped syncing all calendards and wound it back to 1meg by doing only the last two weeks.
check your emails, mms, and text files, keep em clean and clear. if syncing emails, only sync the headers or 5kb, dont do attachments.
your today screen additions are always resource hungry, and suck memory. my SPB Pocket Plus, with Weather, and Diary sucks about 8meg (28 startup without anything to 20meg), and slowly dwindles down to 10meg when I soft reset.
As it likes to cache the entire website, I did find one circumstance where for some reason the website was absoloutely massive, with pictures, giffs, fonts etc, and this zapped my memory from 20meg to 3meg. When it closed, it went back upto 12meg.
A couple of files on this site are being tested to kill unused apps memory resources, which is slightly effective.
You really want to try and keep your boot up memory to about 20meg, and it will drop to about 10meg during a days heavy usage.
Consider getting rid off:
Batter Bar
Program Bar
I have heard elsewhere that the Batter Bar in particular wasnt good for the device. As I have never really heard of either and have read lots in these forums for a year or so, then its not a good thing that I dont know of them. Maybe somebody else here could correct it.
Generally, reliable applications that you can use are SPB, Resco, and SBSH each have their own pros and cons. SPB can slow it down also, but it isnt that extensive, and if I find I really need the speed, I just disable it from the today screen, I am beta testing the newer release at the moment.
Activesync left sync'ing all day can easily kill 10meg of my memory over the whole day.
Also, what is actually in your startups, not just the today screen. With my imate, there was about 4 on install, and I got rid of all of them entirely.
There are so many tweaks, hacks, and improvements, and modifications that can be done.
Firstly though, ensure you are in corporate mode from what I have ready about the 02 version.
Seriously think about the hard reset, then be really choosely about what you install, and to where. Test each extensively after each install.
Anyway, thats enough for the moment, let me know your opionions....
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7. Sorry about battery bar, but meant battery pack pro (gosh I sould like such a dolt). I should get rid of it? Along with Programme Bar? What is a good alternative? SPB POcket Plus?
8. Not much else on the Today screen, just the Battery Pack Pro, Programme Bar & Pocket Breeze thats it.
DESELECT THE FROM YOUR TODAY SCREEN, AND IF NECESSARY THE STARTUP DIRECTORY.
THEN CHOOSE EACH ONE SEPERATELY FOR THE DAY TO SEE THE IMPACT.
ACTIVESYNC IS SUCKING THE GUTS OUT OF IT.
Resco explorer comes with a free today programme plugin, which is memory efficient.
SPB PP will do journal bar and programme features in one, but has more memory overheads.
never used pocket breeze, but lots do abd isn't likely to be the cause of memory issue.
There is large volumes of info on this forum on memory loss, and most are anticipating a major ROM update to fix.... maybe hopefully, we'll see.
You can try use Memmaid of Dinarsoft to get a list of programs running in RAM and how much of the ram they are consuming, just to get an idea of which particular program is consuming the most ram.
Heres the pocketgear shortcut:
http://www.pocketgear.com/downloads.asp?product_id=14279&prodname=MemMaid (supports WM5) 1.5
Hope this helps you to find out what memory problems you have.
First of Simon, Thanks a lot once again.
Second, sorry for the late reply but was trying out your suggestions which I have to say are invaluable.
Did a Hard Reset a couple of days ago.
Loaded back on some programmes that I really require:
At start with no sync, nothing, Free Ram is 33 mb
I then synced with the computer after loading SOTI Pocket Professional
Total Pim size: 4.5Mb
Free ram at this stage: 25mb
Then loaded on the following:
Rescoe File Explorer along with Resco Today add on
Pocket Breeze (maybe I should look for an alternative?)
Memaid
Net Front 3.3
Memory at this stage is now 22mb or so after a soft reset.
Now really missed the program bar (from Battery pack pro) so installed the Magic Button (Great programme) and PsShutXp.
Total ram now after all this, about 22mb after soft reset, normal usage, with contacts, calender, text messages open, about 18mb.
Guess I can live with this. Maybe removing battery pack pro was the solution.
Of course, the moment I connect to active sync (its on active syn the whole time I'm at the office), the ram goes down to 9mb. Guess that really sucks memory.
Now, maybe I also need to get rid of Pocket Breeze and install some other s/w to replicate it but without too much loss of RAM.
Thanks to you Simon, started using the Resco Today Plug in which I am sure hardly uses much ram. And is not bad at all.
Didnt use pocket plus as most report memory issues with it.
Certainly hope that the new ROM fixes these memory leak problems. Thanks a lot again. The Exec is now faster than before but its sad that they would make this device without enough memory or with issues such as this. The XDAII never had any such problems and to be honest, I still miss it.
Cheers, Vikas.
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7. Sorry about battery bar, but meant battery pack pro (gosh I sould like such a dolt). I should get rid of it? Along with Programme Bar? What is a good alternative? SPB POcket Plus?
8. Not much else on the Today screen, just the Battery Pack Pro, Programme Bar & Pocket Breeze thats it.
DESELECT THE FROM YOUR TODAY SCREEN, AND IF NECESSARY THE STARTUP DIRECTORY.
THEN CHOOSE EACH ONE SEPERATELY FOR THE DAY TO SEE THE IMPACT.
ACTIVESYNC IS SUCKING THE GUTS OUT OF IT.
Resco explorer comes with a free today programme plugin, which is memory efficient.
SPB PP will do journal bar and programme features in one, but has more memory overheads.
never used pocket breeze, but lots do abd isn't likely to be the cause of memory issue.
There is large volumes of info on this forum on memory loss, and most are anticipating a major ROM update to fix.... maybe hopefully, we'll see.
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Dear Jorgee,
Many thanks for your email and took your advice and downloaded and installed Memaid. It does do the job of cleaning up the Exec well and am going to stick with this one. Thanks again.
Cheers, Vikas.
Jorgee said:
You can try use Memmaid of Dinarsoft to get a list of programs running in RAM and how much of the ram they are consuming, just to get an idea of which particular program is consuming the most ram.
Heres the pocketgear shortcut:
http://www.pocketgear.com/downloads.asp?product_id=14279&prodname=MemMaid (supports WM5) 1.5
Hope this helps you to find out what memory problems you have.
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hi
I use MemMaid and the running process that uses the most memory is "gwes.exe".
the problem is ,that the amount of memory it uses just keeps growing,rising on a daily basis .I've found that a soft reset brings it right down again :lol: ,but then it starts to rise once more .
Does anyone have a similar problem?
Is there any way of bringing down its memory use without soft reset?
markbrudney said:
hi
I use MemMaid and the running process that uses the most memory is "gwes.exe".
the problem is ,that the amount of memory it uses just keeps growing,rising on a daily basis .I've found that a soft reset brings it right down again :lol: ,but then it starts to rise once more .
Does anyone have a similar problem?
Is there any way of bringing down its memory use without soft reset?
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same to me. 10MB was the size of it. killing it makes the device freeze
don't kill gwes, it is a system process, stands for Graphics, Windowing and Events Subsystem.
i dunno why you get the memory leak, i don't. i always thought spb pocketplus is the culprit, but someone just claimed he had no leaks while using spb+. but give this a try if you happen to use it...
Same here and that is not just with gwes but with many other system files, but gwes is of course the biggest. Isn't this an issue with WM5?
I also use OxiosMemory and try to mitigate this by forcing the processes to release resources not in use, but that does not elimate this issue completely.
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Same here and that is not just with gwes but with many other system files, but gwes is of course the biggest. Isn't this an issue with WM5?
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no, the explanation is not this simple. i run the same wm5 as you and i dont have this problem.
cmonex,
Can I ask you what apps you run? It might be the apps I am running that you do not run is causing the memory leak.
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cmonex,
Can I ask you what apps you run? It might be the apps I am running that you do not run is causing the memory leak.
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i leave these constantly running all the time:
magicbuttons
taskmgr v1.6 (from buzzdev)
uptime
also usually leave these running:
totalcommander
opera
messages (sms)
occasionally using:
iGO 2006
Netfront 3.3
PQZII
vijay's full terminal screen hack
ftpsrv
phm regedit
tre regedit
adobe acrobat
mobipocket
wmirc
softmaker textmaker (wow sucks why no real vga)
tcpmp 0.71
hope this helped what apps are you running?
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hope this helped what apps are you running?
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Thanks for that. What I run is quite a few and some are same as yours. The biggest difference is that I run Wisbar Advance 2 and Wisbar Advance Desktop to skin the GUI.
The apps I am constantly running:
Wisbar Advance 2
Wisbar Advance Desktop
SEVEN (mobile push email)
ATOK (IME for Japanese language)
DefSIPChange (changes default SIP)
PQz
The apps I am running occasionally:
Backup and Restore
GSFinder
MemMaid
Oxios CloseApps
Oxios Hibernate
PHM RegEdit
JpegCapture
TCPMP
VeriChat
Warm Reboot
GB-SOFT Tweak
Pocket Tweak
I will have to check the ones I am constantly running to see if any of them is causing this problem but it could be the first two on the above list.
hi
I run:
contacts
calendar
comm manger
internet explorer
resco file explorer
MemMaid
games
These I run most of the time and I frequently have to switch them off in settings/system/memory in order to keep a reasonable amount of memory free
However gwes.exe never decreases
Can anyone see a link?
markbrudney said:
hi
I run:
contacts
calendar
comm manger
internet explorer
resco file explorer
MemMaid
games
These I run most of the time and I frequently have to switch them off in settings/system/memory in order to keep a reasonable amount of memory free
However gwes.exe never decreases
Can anyone see a link?
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hummm i didnt list the builtin apps but what i use from them is contacts, comm manager, PIE (very rarely), messages (only for sms), word... (sometimes the other office stuff too) would use calendar too but i always forget to note my todos in it
+ and i forgot to list nPOP (for emails) and a screenshot maker (magic something)..
anyway what you run doesn't sound too bad, if you really use no today plugins.. i got no idea.. what ROM version do you run?
The growth is because it caches icons (start menu - programs - settings) to speed up the display. At least that's my best guess!!!
hi
rom version:1.30.107 wwe
I did a soft reset today and gwes.exe went down to 4.22MB
I then ran only the wifi (comm manager) and gwes rose to 4.35MB
I ran it again after switching it off in settings/system/memory and it rose to 4.78MB
when I switched it off again in settings/system/memory it came down to 4.56MB but its obviously where the leak is.,because I didn't run anything else.
the problem is how do I stop it?
Hi all there,
same problem with my german VPA IV (Vodafone) even after several ROM upgrades (Jasjar, qtec, new vodafone ger) no changes of this strange behavior
I really hope, there's anybody out there, who can help us with this annoying thing.
This gwes.exe issue is experienced with WM2003SE as well. I found this in one of the threads in Windows Mobile Team Blog.
"With WM2003SE, I had issues like GWES.exe growing until I ran out of RAM. So, I purchased WM5, hoping the repurposed strata flash and new OS would resolve the issues."
You can also refer to below for gwes.exe in detail.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/d...ui5/html/wce50conshellanduserinterface146.asp
Someone was saying earlier in this thread that gwes.exe caches icons. That might be true but may not be just icons and that explains why gwes.exe grows. Or, it might be that some apps you are running are causing memory leak but that is not easy to spot on.
A workaround to this I use and can recommend to anyone having this problem is Oxios Memory 1.40. It's free!
http://www.oxios.com/memory/
One of its apps is Oxios Hibernate. WM_HIBERNATE is a window message that is generated by the Windows operating system and sent to an application when system resources are running low. All applications should get the message and handle it by attempting to release as many resources as possible by unloading processes, destroying windows, or freeing up as much local storage as possible without damaging the internal state of the system.
I normally run this whenever the free memory space gets low like down to 15MB before my device gets unstable. I normally gain quite a bit by reducing the sizes of gwes.exe and all other processes running are occupying and that I don't have to reboot my device everyday. Check the size of gwes.exe with MemMaid before and after you run this and you will notice how effective it is. :roll:
thanks harryk1372,
Oxios Memory 1.40 is great and I managed to release 3MB of memory.
However none of it came off gwes.exe.
Just a matter of interest ,how many times should I use Oxios Hibernate?
Every time I press it,I get some memory back.
markbrudney said:
thanks harryk1372,
Oxios Memory 1.40 is great and I managed to release 3MB of memory.
However none of it came off gwes.exe.
Just a matter of interest ,how many times should I use Oxios Hibernate?
Every time I press it,I get some memory back.
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Maybe that gwes.exe did not have any resource to release at the point you ran Oxios Hibernate and it was already close to the bare bones. Try running Oxios CloseApps as well as Oxios Hibernate. CloseApps closes processes running in the background and that releases the memory used by those.
You do get some memory back by running Hibernate multiple times but the actual amount you get back is very small after the first run although the dialogue may say it is like 2 to 3MB released every time. I am not sure why this is but I think it is no use running it multiple times. Just run it once or twice a day when you find that the free memory is low.
As I wrote in the earlier post, Oxios Memory is just a workaround I found. It does not eliminate the problem completely and the memory resources used by the processes running will never go down to the level of right after the reboot of the device. I experienced that gwes.exe gradually grows in several days to the point when I need to reboot my device even with running Hibernate from time to time. It's just that I don't need to reboot it like everyday.
thanks harry
thank you very much
hey i had the same problem that is mentioned here....
i was running spb pocket plus when i noticed this....
now with ilauncher and spb diary i have around 25 mb at start up and hardly if any memory leak....
with ilauncher alone i have around 27.5 mb
also some software have been updated like pocket informant webis mail..my experience with them shows me that they have next to no memory leak...
what i have noticed is that applications which are not designed for wm5 have terrible leak....case in point....girders which i a game with simple graphics leaves me with only 9 mb when i exit the app...while with skyforce 1.22 (wm5) the leak is hardly 100-200kb
you could try htcAddicts:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=487490
it seems to be more powerful than Oxios
From some trial and error I managed to find a way to get a few more megs of ram available for everyday use.
First and foremost, when disabling the Phoneskin on a WM5 device makes a big difference, disables the phonepad dial and speeds up the device. Still, by looking within the services running, the I noticed that the PhonePad dll files are still registered in memory and taking up space even if the skin is actually disabled.
Thus removing the HKLM/SERVICES/PhonePad key freed up some extra RAM.
I suggest making a copy of the key if you ever need to use the PhonePad later.
After a reset the PDA should have a few more megs ram available
Let me know of how much ram it freed up for you
Hey eman,
What exactly is the phone pad? The soft keypad in the phone application that mimics a regular phone pad? Seems right, I'm just double checking.
Cheers.
No difference for me. Also I was still able to dial numbers on the regular phone pad so I cannot see what this registry is about?...
yeah what does this do? do u mean u cant se the telephone on screen pad??
I think it means that instead of loading the phone operator's skin for the phone it uses the default one from HTC. I had disabled the operator skin a while back but I'm trying this now.
First of all this is a well-known hack for a long time. If somebody need it look after it in this forum.
This hack just turns out the customisable graphical dialler skin but you have left the original HTC dialpad which you can see always when you enter your pin-code if your SIM-card needs it when you turn it on.
And yes, it is true, that it gives us some free megabytes to the RAM, but it has to be noticed that after this hack you have to forget the video-call function, because this is a skin-related function.
I've been using this hack since I bought my universal. It worths for me.
I have usually from 21MB to 27MB RAM without soft reset with installed lots of application and I can increase it when it is lower with 'refresh today'-function and Oxios Hibernate (the earlier version, because it is faster without the screen note) application.
So, if in your country video calling is not a famous service you should activate this hack.
Oxios Hibernate
Would you share the old Oxios version or can you post a valid link? I couldn't locate it on the net.
What tool do you use to refresh the today screen? SK, Mortscript or something standalone?
Thanks
http://www.oxios.com/memory/
There is 1.4 version now. I suggest to use an earlier version, because this new is more complicated, and when you push the shortcut you created, the execution takes a bit longer than with that previous version, and it writes to screen in a small window the released memory which is unneccessary, because all of us are using a today meter for memory i'm sure. So that was enough in the version i use just pushing the shortcut and receiving more memory without anything to do.
I refresh todayscreen with Dinarsoft HandyMenu.
http://www.dinarsoft.com/handymenu/summary.html
free memory
Is memorymaid the kind of application, or am i wrong?
none memory difference detected