Just getting to grips with my new mini after putting my XDA2i to one side - and it's slow as hell.
I've found some apps can take 20 secs or more to load - and I'm using the standard apps, with no tweaks at all. It’s completely unusable so I’m assuming something s wrong otherwise everybody would be talking about this.
I'm now resetting it to the basic install (Hard reset followed by a soft reset as the customisation is about to install) – I’ll post me results later…
Some other points:
- What an amazing box - better than opening a new Mac
- Why oh why do those f*ckers as MS STILL have to put us through a noob cut & paste exercise on every reset.
- Did anybody else get the basic/business/full O2 install options promised in the quick start manual? I never saw this option on startup.
So anyway, I've got an O2 clean machine, manually configured my connections, and surprise surprise, everything is (more or less) zipping along.
It’s noticeably more sluggish that the 2i, but that’s expected – now all I need is a third part app that will allow me to assign one of the hard buttons to the light so I have a handy torch on me – anybody got any ideas?
More great news – PocketTV is now available for WM5 – www.pockettv.com
You entertain me..... I don't know why, but you do
Oooo Pocket Tv for WM5
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So anyway, I've got an O2 clean machine, manually configured my connections, and surprise surprise, everything is (more or less) zipping along.
It’s noticeably more sluggish that the 2i, but that’s expected – now all I need is a third part app that will allow me to assign one of the hard buttons to the light so I have a handy torch on me – anybody got any ideas?
More great news – PocketTV is now available for WM5 – www.pockettv.com
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Agree.. please, hardware button to handy torch !!!!!!
strongp said:
Just getting to grips with my new mini after putting my XDA2i to one side - and it's slow as hell.
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I'm having the same problem.
strongp said:
I'm now resetting it to the basic install (Hard reset followed by a soft reset as the customisation is about to install) – I’ll post me results later…
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What is it you've done? Reinstalled the OS from a non O2 ROM or something?
I'll go have a look round, which will probably answer my question.
Rolo.
Rolo,
You need to do a hard reset (see the manual) – Once you’ve got the ‘press the send key to blatt everything’ message you need to press the green phone button, but don’t worry if you get it wrong as the other buttons don’t seem to do anything. (another triumph for the O2 technical authors). Then after going through the setting up process you will be told that the O2 extensions will be loaded in 5 seconds, - before it can do this do a quick soft reset (stylus in the hole, no keys pressed).
Then you will need to set up the network settings. In programs there is an application called O2, and in that you can ‘get settings’. This may do the settings for you – it’s worth a try, as you can always reset it again afterwards if you want.
Anybody know what this program does?
Thanks for the help. I'll give that a go . I found that disabling the MSN toolbar from the today screen made quite a difference to performance as well.
I find it hard to believe anyone could put up with it as it is. Bah.
Rolo.
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You need to
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Cheers. Job done, and now it's so much faster. (Hard reset was different in manual to wiki so corrected).
Then you will need to set up the network settings. In programs there is an application called O2, and in that you can ‘get settings’. This may do the settings for you – it’s worth a try, as you can always reset it again afterwards if you want.
Anybody know what this program does?
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I've just tried it. Selected the only menu item which said "Get settings". A text message popped up at the bottom saying "SMS sent", but visibly it didn't do anything else. I've waited a couple of minutes to see if I'll maybe get a message back with the settings or something, but nothing yet. My network settings are blank.
I'll give it half an hour or something and have a look and see if I can find the settings. If it's simple enough for you to point me in the direction (UK 02) that'd be cool, otherwise no worries - I presume this is for GPRS type stuff?
Thanks again for you help.
Rolo.
I was also not given the different install options on first start up. However, i did a hard reset and not by the method in the manual which didn't work - there is a 'CLEAR STORAGE' option in system settings that works instead. Then on startup i chose BASIC install and the O2 UI was not installed. So much faster now - it was ridiculous before.
The key thing is that this way, you get the speed increase and you won't need to manually input all the settings. Much better
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I was also not given the different install options on first start up. However, i did a hard reset and not by the method in the manual which didn't work
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I used what was in the PDF manual linked to in the Wiki which was comms+voice+reset. The Wiki originally said it was camera+voice+reset.
Comms + voice + reset didn't work for me. Tried it for ages. It's important people know this in case the hard reset doesn't work for them either
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Comms + voice + reset didn't work for me. Tried it for ages. It's important people know this in case the hard reset doesn't work for them either
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its comms & voice (hold) + quick short press with the stylus reset.
Screen will then say press green key to reset.
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Hi all,
I am aware about all the other threads but yet could not get across some nonsense on my MDA Pro.
I went back to the t-Mobile ROM because of german support on many features but running ozVGA now successfully with two exceptions:
1. Each time I reset the device, I have to reinstall vjbigphone (0.91) and re-run the .exe to get my dialer back to full screen. VJ did a real got job, but I hope anyone coud tell me, what could be wrong?
2. Does anyone know, how to get rid of the stupid and ugly video-button in the t-mobile dialer? I replaced all BMPs with the one's from iMate, but yet video is the stupid grey. flat button.
Once this is solved, I will write down exactly how to get really the tiny machine running with the best tools for best results.
Greetings
ndee
ndee: why do you have to re-install the app?
After a soft reset, what happens when you choose the "load and fix" option from the tray?
I am hoping to spend some time on this app over the next few days. Many apps being fixed, one a at time...
V
Hi Vijay,
when I softreset, everything on the phone is back to the tiny layout. Even though I "load and fix".
Only workaraound I figured out is reinstall :-(
ndee
Strange - I know we spoke about this before, but then, after you re-install it works?
Have you tried not loading VJBigPhone, soft reset, load the phone (eg press green key, so you can see Tiny buttons) and then load VJBigPhone. Does that make any difference? Re-installing shouldn't make any difference, it doesn't load any settings etc from the registry etc...
v
I have some similiar problems. I'm using also the neweset german ROM on my MDA Pro and after a soft reset I don't have to reinstall the app, but I have to close it and restart it again to gain access to the phone application. Without close VJBigPhone nothing happens, after starting the application again everything works fine (till the next soft reset, which happens every morning after the daily backup)
Wolfgang
I have an idea what might be the problem then.
The code was modified a while back to try to find the "phone" program without you having to specify the name in your own language (eg "telefon" instead of "phone"). However, it's possible that if the phone isn't found, it's getting confused. I'll try to look at the code again soon.
I'm not writing any new programs for a while while I do updates to all the old stuff
V
out of sudden, I dont need to reinstall anymore. Just after reset, I run vjbigphoneres and phone comes up full screen. Dont know what I did and how long it will last - keep you informed though - thx so far.
Any solution for the ugly video button of TM insight?
ndee
TM Button: I know you've spoken about it for a while, but I've got no experience of it, I don't really use my Universal I think someone (you?) posted one before, but could you send me a screenshot if you've got appropriate software, and if you have them, a zip of your extended rom?
V
Hello one and all.
I have been looking at this forum for about 1 week and i'm still none the wiser. This may be because I have no idea what im doing and I am a little worried about making rom changes as I have no experinace of this.
I have a 02 exec. Which i am happy with but its a bit slower than I thought it would be. The phone seams to mess around when answering.
I have booted it up as normal on the basic setting.
A few questions that I have :-
What is the best setting to boot up on basic or corperate with the code ?
What reg changes are critical to boost performance ?
Any Software that I should get for the Xda ?
VGA settings do I need to change them ? What effect does it have.
Any advise would be good. If it could be given in a format my 2 year old could understand that would be good for me.
Thank you in advance
You'll find a wealth of information on each of your questions by browsing & searching the posts already on this forum.
thanks moandal that's why I posted.
1 post says basic setup another say corporate. 1 post says hack this that and the other. another says not to.
I'm new to pocket pc.
these forums do not make it clear what is best.
example radio version 1.06 or 1.08 at least 3 posts on here saying each one is better than the other. I have no idea.
all I was asking for is some guidance as to which set up has worked best for people.
@CRJL you've one up on me mate - I did not even know this thing had two modes!!!
BTW, why is that? Someone mentioned somewhere a corporate password - how to enter this & why would I want it.
BTW CRJL, I agree with you, these little devices are very confusing, espcially because the front end software (WM5) is soooooooo labourious!
Andy
when you hard reset the thing. after all the rom stuff loads up it gives you the choice of basic set up or corporate. it selects basic automatically after 20secs.
if you tell it corporate then you have to put the code 0506 in. this the uninstalls some stuff off the exec. you loose mms and all the gprs an 3g settings for conecting to the net. (i don't know what else it does) some of the people in the forums say it makes the exec faster. I could not really notice any difference.
you loose a few applications as well.
until I learn more I'm staying in basic.
I find these forums are for more advanced users so the simple questions tend to get missed. (im talking abot my first post) still not had a reply answering my questions
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What is the best setting to boot up on basic or corperate with the code ?
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for this you should first make a hard reset (carefull, with hard reset you will loose all data!) by pressing both app buttons and reset at the same time.
When it starts up, after the installation countdown shows up you should make a reset to stop the automatic setup.
Now you have a machine, which is only basic setup. See how you like the things in there.
After you now enough about this, you can make same hard reset again and start the corporate setup. Then see, how you like this setup.
After this do same with basic setup.
In total you have then an idea, what you can have with the 3 different setups.
Now you can decide, which of the 3 setups you want to start with. After this, you should read the posts about Extended Rom, how to unlock it, which programs are in there etc. Then you get an idea for example how to install some software in the basic setup.
Also, you can add some programs from other Roms. For example I have an MDA Pro and I added the I-Mate Backgammon game to my setup.
Try out and see what customizations you want and need, which you do not want.
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What reg changes are critical to boost performance ?
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Basically, this does not really make difference. Forget about reg changes. Performance depends on running programs and setup - see above.
As far as I know, o2 installs some app in the basic setup, which makes the device slow. As I never tried o2 rom, I do not know, if this is true.
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Any Software that I should get for the Xda ?
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read here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=31697
here also I recommend to try out the software and just keep the ones you like.
In total I would recommend you to create a directory on your PC where you put all the setup and cab files, which you want to have in your final setup. After trying out all, make a hard reset again and install the files from this directory. This prevents any junks to be left behind from your previous tries.
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VGA settings do I need to change them ? What effect does it have.
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I think, you get more problems than it helps. Some programs appear too small on the screen. And when you make a Romupdate this does not work anymore.
I recommend not to install any VGA Patches. Instead just set the text size to more small and search in this forum for some registry hacks to change system font etc. and see if you like it, when the font is more small (this is good for Opera or PIE as you can view complete page!)
Nice reply, thanks mate!
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yes
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what are the ><ahem, ahem>< "app buttons"
Andy (thicky wicky Blacky wacky Adder)
thank you. I will give the 3 setups a go. I did read that if you soft reset before the counter that video calling does not work.
will give it a go and see what happens I'm sure there will be a cab file on here to sort it out.
anyone wishing to add any pearls of wisdom fee free. I'm learning more and more all the time.
app buttons: the buttons on the keyboard, which have changing functions. these functions are shown at the bottom of the screen. These buttons can be found to the right and left of the red and green call buttons on the keyboard.
about video calling: yes, this feature is installed after you switch on first your device. it is activated with one cab file. If you can find out which cab file this is, you can install it manually in the basic setup.
Hallo everyone!
I am new in the forum and new in the PDA world , my last phone that I used was Nokia 6630, and now I have Qtek 9100 , but I am still confused and hope for some help from you..
1- I was setting a ringtone for contact group, when anyone from any group calls me, I can hear a ringtone then I know that this person is from that group, is it possible to do that in my Qtek 9100 ( WM5 ) ?
2- I am using Voice Command, when I recieve a call, the woman says the number, is there any possibility to disable the Voice Command only for the recieved calls and leave it enabled for other functions ?
3- I miss some of applications that were installed in my Nokia Smartphone, like an application for changing the cm to inches or kilogramms to pounds etc.. , is there such application already installed in Wizard ? Or do I have to install it myself ? If yes, what is the name of such appliction ?
4- If I want to install an application, what is the better way, installing it in Memory card or in the Phone memory itself ? Is there any differences if I install it in MC or in the Phone itself ?
I have much more questions, but right now I am trying to figure out the rest myself..
Thanks in Advnce!
No setting for a group but you can set for each contact - in the contact fields - option for ringtone.
there is the free converterce for conversions see here http://www.freewareppc.com/calculator/converterce.shtml
Most of the time best to install to storage card to keep program memory free on the device. Although some applications like notem etc.. need to be installed on the device memory to work properly.
Thanks alot for your answer.
But what about the Microsoft Voice Command ? Can't I just disable it when I reciev a Call ? because it annoys me when the woman mentions the number, I want to disable it from that function and leave it enabled for all other functiones.
Start>Settings>Voice Command
Select Phone>Options>uncheck announce incoming calls
Thanks csterns for the answer.
new question claimed in my head.... Can I restart the phone without turning it off ? Just Restart and not turning off... Any idea how to do that ?
I appreciate any comment.
I'm not sure if you a referring to "resetting" vs "restarting". To reset the phone it does shut down and does shut down (soft reset)
To soft reset you can use this:
Or if you are not using a protective case which covers up the sides of the device then get the stylus and simply poke it in the hole just beneath the infra-red receiver on the righthand side.
Thank you all for your replies.. But I was actually meaning "Restarting" and not "resetting".
But does the "Resetting" do the same as "Restarting" does ? As much as I know, if I do the "Soft Reset" I'll loose any datas or programs that have been saved or installed before, is that right ?
And isn' there a way to only "Restart" the WM5 instead of doing a "Soft Reset" ? Like in the Windows XP for PC, if you click on "Start" then "Turn off Computer" you'll notice there is a "Restart" button.
Everything that has been mentioned so far (including the hole and the stylus) is known as a soft reset. This is exactly like restarting your Windows based PC. Nothing is lost, all your programs and data are still there. "Soft reset" is the correct terminology when talking about PDAs, not a "restart".
A hard reset is where you will lose data. A hard reset can only be performed through a combination of button presses OR by going to Start -> Settings -> System tab -> Clear Storage. Once there it will ask you to confirm you want to hard reset. There is no way you can do it accidentally unless you are really silly!
Aha, thanks Keitaro for your answer. Well that means "Restarting" in PC is the same as "Soft Reset" on PPC, what about any settings I changed, will they be back to default when I do the reset ? I mean like Volume or any settings that I changed in the WM5.
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what about any settings I changed, will they be back to default when I do the reset ?
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Settings such as volume etc does not get affected by a soft reset.
If you are really worried about understanding what does and does not happen during a soft reset then all you have to do is this...
1) Use your backup program to perform a FULL backup and store the image somewhere other than the device itself, eg storage card. This is only so you can be safe that you go back to where you started if goes wrong. However, I can guarantee you that nothing bad will happen so you won't even need this backup file but do for your piece of mind...
2) Make some random changes, eg volume, today theme, ringtone, documents.
3) Perform a soft reset
4) Check all the changes you just made before the soft reset and you will see that they are all the same as before - nothing has changed
5) Delete the backup because it's not needed
Actually...if you've made any recent (last 30 seconds or so) changes to the registry and then do a 'reset button' soft reset those registry changes may be lost. However this problem doesn't exist for the 'hold standby button down for 3 seconds' soft reset. However, I doubt that you are doing any registry changes right now just remember this for the future.
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I doubt that you are doing any registry changes right now just remember this for the future.
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If he's only just beginning to understand the difference between a hard and soft reset, and what each do and don't do, then he'd better hope he's not fugging about with the registry!
Thanks too much, Keitaro, for this great post.
And I appreciate Cardcaptor_RLH85's post too..
Well to be honest, I knew about "Hard Reset" and "soft reset" before, but what I was fearing is loosing datas and settings after the soft reset, I really didn't know that Restart = Soft Reset, I thought "Soft Reset is usefull when a programm hangs or a problem shows up and I never know that it is exactly the same as Restart for PC.
About Registry Edit, yes I still didn't change anything in Registry, well only 3 days is this baby in my hands.. But I have read here in this forum much about editing the Registry to solve some problems and issues, I really don't fear the editing, because I did this many times in my PC I don't think PPC is more complicated than a PC.
Thanks for you all.
Hello everybody, I am facing a strange problem. Some of my phone buttons have stopped working as they used to work before. The complete buttons on the front panel at times they work and at times they don't. The below mentioned buttons only are not working:
1. The Internet Explorer button.(Above on the right)
2. The Message button.(Above on the left)
3. The Call buttons. (The call picking and disconnecting button, below left and right) And the 4 keys along it.
And one more strange problem is the phone goes to the internet explorer by its own, at times when i open the phone it is on the internet explorer, though before going to the sleeping mode after getting locked it is on the normal screen but when i switch it on and put the password, i find it on the internet explorer screen. Pls help to resolve these problems, I'll highly appreciate you all.
The buttons would be controlled in the settings section.
But I have to agree about the IE coming up. I think its related to getting the phone out of the case on your belt and it presses itself - as it were. I've tried setting that button to nothing to see if that makes any difference.
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The buttons would be controlled in the settings section.
But I have to agree about the IE coming up. I think its related to getting the phone out of the case on your belt and it presses itself - as it were. I've tried setting that button to nothing to see if that makes any difference.
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Thnks for the msg. Can you advise where in the settings section the changes have to be done.
Regarding IE, i believe it is not due to removing and inserting in the cover. Even when it is removed from the cover, and at times if i press the key which is right below the contact(to open contact details), It opens IE and with the call button which is the green one also.
Pls help me, I never knew atleast with this device after spending a huge amount still i will come across such problem. I am really frustrated with the device.
Anybody pls help!!!!!
Regards Pankaj
which model do u have? i am having the same problem with my Softbank X01HT / Dopod 838Pro. Also change the buttons setting does not work
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which model do u have? i am having the same problem with my Softbank X01HT / Dopod 838Pro. Also change the buttons setting does not work
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This may be quite wrong but I'm just wondering if you guys have programmes running in the background. You may know that just tapping on the X top right does not close programmes down fully. You need something like Magicbutton or HTC X Button installed to quickly and fully close running programmes. If you don't have such an application installed then some of these hard keys may be responding to the background programmes. It would not surprise me in this case that Internet Explorer pops up because it's never been fully closed.
Just a thought.
And if you knew all this already I apologise, but it might be useful to someone who didn't know.
Mike
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This may be quite wrong but I'm just wondering if you guys have programmes running in the background. You may know that just tapping on the X top right does not close programmes down fully. You need something like Magicbutton or HTC X Button installed to quickly and fully close running programmes. If you don't have such an application installed then some of these hard keys may be responding to the background programmes. It would not surprise me in this case that Internet Explorer pops up because it's never been fully closed.
Just a thought.
And if you knew all this already I apologise, but it might be useful to someone who didn't know.
Mike
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Thanks for your information, well i really didn't knew about this. Can you suggest where can i find this software, i am having Imate Jasjam. Would really appreciate your immediate reply.
Thanks & Regards
Pankaj Oberoi
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Thanks for your information, well i really didn't knew about this. Can you suggest where can i find this software, i am having Imate Jasjam. Would really appreciate your immediate reply.
Thanks & Regards
Pankaj Oberoi
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Not saying this is the cause of your problem but could be.
Magic Button shows running programmes and lets you fully close them:
http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=7438
It will ask for you to register and give e-mail address but you do not need to, you can still download without doing all that.
There are other programmes like HTC X Button but this one works fine.
Mike
i have the same problem! maybe something funny is going on with JASJAMs... anyway, i tried pressing the IE button after resetting the device (soft reset) and it STILL says it cant find the location. it must be SOMEWHERE in the registry!
can anyone please help??
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i have the same problem! maybe something funny is going on with JASJAMs... anyway, i tried pressing the IE button after resetting the device (soft reset) and it STILL says it cant find the location. it must be SOMEWHERE in the registry!
can anyone please help??
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Can we assume that IE works ok when you start it from the Start Menu, and that it is only when you try to start it from the hardware key it does not work?
Mike
yes thats exactly right. runs perfectly! i'm wondering if maybe the entry in the registry has gone missing...?
benzothegreat said:
yes thats exactly right. runs perfectly! i'm wondering if maybe the entry in the registry has gone missing...?
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Given the programme is working fine, this I think will be a simple matter of remapping the key to the shortcut/programme. Unfortunately it's late here, hopefully someone else can give you the detail. If not I'll check this thread tomorrow.
Mike
benzothegreat
Go to Start>settings>Buttons>
Select button 2 and choose Internet Explorer from the drop down list below.
(If IE is already chosen then I would choose something else for button 2 (anything) tick to say ok. Try the button it should open whatever programme you selected. Now go back to the buttons menu and choose Internet Explorer for button 2 again.)
Hopefully this will work if not report back.
Mike
hi guys i have same problem my panels buttons are not woking just center buttons are wokring, its not work 2 week , then suddenly one day it work but next day again offf.... does any 1 have same problem?
does anyone know how this phone is hard-reset?
Do you mean how to hard reset......? For sure you can find in the manual......
It's same with HD
Hard reset: windows flag button: settings: security: restore factory defaults
But does anyone know how to perform a SOFT reset with the HD mini???
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does anyone know how this phone is hard-reset?
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To perform a hard reset
1. With the phone turned off, press and hold the VOLUME UP and
VOLUME DOWN buttons, then press the POWER button shortly
and release it. You will then see a message on the screen warning
you that the operation will delete all your personal data and reset
all settings to manufacturer defaults.
2. Release the VOLUME UP and VOLUME DOWN buttons.
3. Press the VOLUME UP button to perform the hard reset, or press
any other button to cancel the reset.
and the MANUALS download page
http://www.htc.com/europe/userguide.aspx?p_id=314
Here is the cab for soft reset and power off. It working well with mine.
thx for power off and soft reset apps
Hei
Thanks for these apps. Soft Reset works fine, I've put it to "quick" apps.
Power off just switch my screen off and lock it.
Its ok to me too.
Good luck
Hi,
it's nice to have the application to make a soft reset. But what if the device freezes. Recently I've experienced it sevral times and I always had to remove battery to restart the phone. It's very uncomfortable. Any solutions for this?
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Do you mean how to hard reset......? For sure you can find in the manual......
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What's a manual?
Anyone found a reset button or method other than "battery out" ?
htc itself states on their website the "switch off - and on" as a soft reset. In case of a frozen device - it's battery out.
Lets face it: with the little red button the Mini would have been much more expensive
http://www.hard-reset.com/htc-hd-mini-photon-hard-reset.html
hello hatillac ,working fine cab soft reset my mini thank you
My device hangs frequently while editing contact details, or when a contact has a lot of SMS's. Haven't found a solution yet...
Laterman2 said:
My device hangs frequently while editing contact details, or when a contact has a lot of SMS's. Haven't found a solution yet...
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Many people experience this problem. It's part of the design of HTC Sense.
I encourage you, and everybody, to write complaints about this problem in the support section of HTC website. Just as i did. It's the only way to force them to correct this problem with an update.
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My device hangs frequently while editing contact details, or when a contact has a lot of SMS's. Haven't found a solution yet...
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why don't u use myphone for editing the contacts?
Most of the time, you'll have to edit contacts on the go. That's why it's a mobile phone.
I use pc Outlook to edit for now. But this is a serious handicap. Have to remember or write down details, and wait till i get home or to the office to power up the pc, and do the editting. Often, papers got lost. Or i forgot some details. This is really not the solution. Just a temporary method to get by.
All my older pocketpc and windows mobile phones made it very easy for me to edit contacts on the go. Never had problems with that. THis is one of the strongest points of windows mobile, despite its shortcomings on user-friendliness. What HD mini did was to kill this one very important advantage of windows mobile.
Why???
Just a small tip for frozen phones. Wait five minutes. It happens a lot that the phone is working again.
It's not supposed to be this bad. HTC is making the contacts editting of WM a laughing stock.
bart3385 said:
It's not supposed to be this bad. HTC is making the contacts editting of WM a laughing stock.
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I've installed SPB shell on my fone- gives better user interface and does away with the HTC contacts editer- recommend to anyone, you can download 15 day trial to see if you like- be warned, you will