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This site claims that there are problems with the sd card slot in the 2i - and the symptoms that they give seem very similar to the ones I am experiencing. Can anyone confirm or deny this? And if its true is there anyway of getting around it?
Thanks
http://www.digireader.com/view_blog.asp?blog_id=208&author_id=2
as i long user of the 2i I can say without a doubt there is a problem with the sd cards as i suffered for over 3 months or more of pure frustration and almost throwing the thing away .
but in the end it was down to the sd card speed ,it doesn't really matter what size you have but it's the speed of the card at the moment i am using a 512 transcend 80X card and it has been running perfectly for the past 4 months or so without any problems .there have been plenty people who have now tried the transcend card and found it to be well 1 of the best so i would recomend you buying 1 of these asap ,if you do a google you should find a place selling 1 of these but just make sure it's has a speed of 80x or else you will have the same problems ..also if you wish to get a bigger card the 1meg works okas well
Hmm, I can't say I'm at all happy with that. I have now borrowed a 512mb card and magically all my problems disappear. its the same make and model as my 1gb card so I can't see its a brand issue.
Are o2 aware of the problem? If they are then I think they're breaking the law by continuing to sell the thing.
Does the problem exist with the 2s as well? If not I might go back to o2 and insist they swap it over...
Thanks for your reply
Hi.
I've had an XDA IIi for a few months and had lots of problems with the phone freezing (especially with tomtom 5). The problems got noticeably worse when using "turbo" mode too.
I emailed tomtom for help with navigator and the strange locking up. After a month, they replied to me and said that the pda must use 80x cards or faster... i bought an 150x 2Gb card and haven't looked back...
The phone can now do it all... i use ttn5 with traffic addon whilst driving and use pocket music to play mp3s at the same time and i'm still able to answer the phone to accept calls...
the only problem i've had with a 2Gb SD-Card is that i can ONLY read/write it in the XDA IIi - no other PDA will touch it and no card reader will recognise it.
dango99 said:
Hi.
i bought an 150x 2Gb card and haven't looked back...
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What brand is your card?
Having already sprung for a 1Gb card I'd hate to have to spend out again becasue of inadequacies in the xda hardware... however if it was an upgrade to 2Gb I might be able to better justify it.
Perhaps this info about card speeds should be posted in the FAQ so that new users have at least some warning of the 2i's problems with SD...
mine is an "a-data" myflash 2gb from here: www.emartbuy.com
£91.65 inc VAT
hope this helps you!
Dan
I would just like to say thanks for this topic, the two problems i've had with the PDA2 (XDAIIi) since i got it earlier this year have been fixed by taking out my 60 speed 1gb sd card.
problem 1: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=136972
problem 2: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=166348
I only got my XDA Mini S yesterday, so I don't have any memory cards for it yet.
I kind of figured that as I'm going down the consolidation route (ie Phone, PDA, iPod into one device so I don't have to carry a rucksack with me everywhere!) I might as well get as much memory as possible, so I can stick a bunch of MP3's on there.
I can get 1gb for between £40 and £50 (GBP), but haven't seen many places selling 2gb.
I also wanted confirmation that the Wizard will actually recognise 2gb.
Any ideas on places in the UK that I can get a 2gb card from (assuming they work!)?
Hmm, just found this:
http://www.mobymemory.com/proddetail.asp?prod=miniSD_2048mb_MOBY_001
It says it's compatible with the QTEK 9100 and T-Mobile Vario, so I assume this is the one to go for... Just a bit concerned that it's unbranded (I usually get Sandisk or Kingston :? )
Hi,
I use a 2GB mini-sd card in my MDA Vario - no problem, it works fine.
The card is unbranded and available at www.memoryworld.de for 125 euro.
Greetings, Newchurch
I got the one off of mobymemory - works a charm
Can't say the same for the miniSD > USB stick that they gave for free with it, though.
Sweet, looks like I'll be getting one of these then!
I'm really starting to like this device now I've joined this board...
When I first started using it out of the box, I had to reboot it every 10 minutes. It very nearly got returned to the shop!
Thanks for your help guys!
Yeah i bought a 1Gb miniSD mobymemory card, brillient! Cheeper and faster than my scandisk 1Gb mini SD, (found out when using tomtom its data accessing times are faster) And its like £1 for postage and got delivered the next day! brillient!
Sounds like im a promoter witht the site or summit but no, its actualy gud!
That's one of the reasons I got the mobymemory one... it's an SLC (single layer) rather than an MLC (guess), so it's a fair bit faster
Excellent, thanks for your comments.
I'll order one tomorrow!
Another vote for the moby memory one, I ordered mine on friday afternoon, and it arrived yesterday! Brilliant
It's definatly much faster transfering with a card reader rather than the phones connection though
Just be careful with the moby memory cards. They are very thin and fragile. I have one and it split when trying to remove it from the USB stick they supplied with it. Comparing the Moby card with Scandisk you can see that it's a lot more fragile and flexible than the Scandisk one.
I'm not sure I'll buy another because of this.
I don't think it's physically thinner than any other miniSD card, as that is a tight specification. The subtrate may be thinner, however - I haven't checked, nor do I particularly want to
That said... let's face it.. all of these cards are stupid-tiny, and they're getting tinier ( I made a comparison chart for tweakers.net a long time ago, see: http://www.pointzero.nl/dump/cards.jpg ). I'd say that any primarily plastic object that's only 1.2mm thick demands to be treated with respect
( If you go way back to the MMC cards - they were only 0.76mm thick while being very large - crazy! )
I second your notion about that card > USB reader they gave with it, though. First of all - mine doesn't work. Big deal. But second - it was nearly *impossible* to get the card out of the thing again. I definitely won't even bother to try and use it with this 2GB one even if it does magically start working.
ZeBoxx said:
I don't think it's physically thinner than any other miniSD card, as that is a tight specification. The subtrate may be thinner, however - I haven't checked, nor do I particularly want to
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You're probably right but the Scandisk card is definitely stiffer than the Moby one. Just warning people to be careful if they have the Moby card as it doesn't seem to be as robust in construction.
ordered one from mobymemory.com
I never recieved it.
no tracking ;-(
I like to get one!
As Mobymemory seems to ship everything in a manner where you have to sign for its receipt (well, I did anyway), they should be able to tell that you never received the package; short of them being lying scumbags
If they tell you that you did receive it, ask for a copy (scan, fax) of the release form. If they can't show it to you, they have no case, and you can take it up with your credit card issuer (if paid by credit card), or you can pursue other methods of getting the card / money back.
If they can show it to you, and it's not your signature, then try and figure out whose it is - family member, roommate, whatever, and take the issue up with them.
If it -is- your signature, then please seek professional help
Bah!
I ordered a 2Gb Moby card and (as usual) it turned up in a flash (geddit?). Excellent. Slapped it in the (supplied) adapter, slapped that in my card reader and hey Tesco! Not accessible. B*gger! So I booted up my (custom SD-enabled*) laptop and transferred all the data of onto the hard disk. Then I swapped the cards in the adapter and transferred all of that data off onto the 2Gb card. Wahey!
Great, except that the folders were called &*^&^%£ and )!(£(!")*(. Doh! Looks like my laptop reader couldn't address the card.
So I spent the extra £5 and the postage for a card reader and now you tell me that the card reader is too brutish for the card. Damn, damn and thrice damn!
(* My laptop has an SD card re-writer in it, but the catch is broken so I have to stretch an elastic band round the keybord to keep the card in!)
DM.
P.S. Do you think I'm addicted to parentheses ?
I ordered mine today and specified Special Delivery...
I'm hoping to have it tomorrow.
I took the risk and ordered a 1GB mini SD from mobymemory. Got it by recorded delivery the next day! Also the first time ever a retailer charged me the correct postage! (£1.20)
The card works fine and is not flimsy as someone commented earlier. It comes with a little adpater for card readers etc..
Good work fellas..
i also bought a 2GB card for the 9100 from MobyMemory because of this topic. arrived in 3 days (from UK to FR) and so far so good! 1950MB free out of the box (awesome!) and not flimsy or cheap feeling at all. use the adapter for photos direct to the DVD player and it works great! good price too.
thanks for the tip!
Qtek 9100 FR -flashed with WWE ROM 1.6.7.1
2GB Mini-SD from Moby Memory
Voice Command (UK female voice, love it!)
First - Hi to everybody! It's my first post here...
(and unfortunately not last :wink: )
I'm new and I'm looking for some help, advice and independent opinions.
I've bought O2 XDA mini S yesterday, and today I'm looking for memory card...
I went through MobyMemory offer and I've found "High-Speed 2GB mini-SD Card HIGH SPEED Read - 9mb per sec, Write - 8mb per sec transfers" for only £64.99 - is it good price (as for today) or should I look for another shop / brand?
What are your opinions after few months of using MobyMemory mini-SD cards?
Any issues, broken/faulty cards? Are you still happy with this purchase?
Next few question marks - are these cards really noticeable faster than i.e "SanDisk 2GB mini-SD Card"? SanDisk is £10 cheaper... is the speed of the PDA impacted by the speed of memory card used (noticeable) or the difference is only when you need to transfer large amount of data to the card (from the PC for example)?
This one is (probably) very simply for you - What are the pros and cons of having one 2GB card or two 1GB each?
Using two cards should be more comfortable, of course as long as you did't lose one...
Is 1GB memory card enough for everyday use (2 full lenght films + few videos + 10 albums + some additional applications...)?
How much (audio / video) data I can fit on 1GB card?
And last but not least - I'm going to buy 17-in-1 card reader (MobyMemory special deal) to serve this card - is anybody using it, any suggestions, opinions?...
Sorry for so many questions
Thanks in advance
I have a 1gb and 2gb mobymemory cards. Highly recommended and faultless. I have the 1gb for a year and 2gb for a month. they are better than normal cards and are mono-density or something and fast. yes 64.99 is a good deal for 2gb got mine for 79.99.
Movies about 150-200 mb each, and music if compress at 64kps WMA about 2-3 mb each song so yes should be able to fit them on a 1gb card - I would prefer 2gb more room and more likely to lose if keep taking in and out if you have too cards.
Your choice though .
Welcome to the wizard ownera club - you will have many good hours fun with this great device.
So i've brought it my MDA T-Mobile phone for £30 on Web'n'Walk for £32 a month
not a bad deal me thinks
any ho trying to get to know what to do with this amazing machine, first thing, get an memory card
Firstly, is this the right one and is this a good deal
http://www.memorybits.co.uk/minisd_754.php?cPath=754&sort=2a&filter_id=180
Those look like mini SD Cards. You want a Micro SD card for the Hermes.
Mike
they defo look like mini sd cards to me
i got this micro sd and its working a treat for me in my vario II
http://www.microdirect.co.uk/(15212)PEAK-1GB-Micro-SD-card-Ultra-60x-286900.aspx
cheer for the advice
but already brought the right one for ebay for a tenner.
gosh this phone is amazing!!!!!
Hello all,
I used a 4 gb mini sd for around 4 months without any serious issues (soft reset fixed everything for me.) Then, out of nowhere, the card just became unreadable. Couldn't access any data from it and I couldn't even reformat it. Completely dead.
So I started poking around about 4gb cards and found (like I probably should have done before I bought the card) that the current mini SD standard stops at 2gb. These "4GB" cards are really 2gb cards that have been hacked and reformatted to 4gb. Now, apparently this works, but drastically shortens the card's shelf life. It is said that most of them die within a few months, if they last that long.
I just wanted to post a poll regarding this issue. Hope this is of interest to everyone.
psargent said:
Hello all,
I used a 4 gb mini sd for around 4 months without any serious issues (soft reset fixed everything for me.) Then, out of nowhere, the card just became unreadable. Couldn't access any data from it and I couldn't even reformat it. Completely dead.
So I started poking around about 4gb cards and found (like I probably should have done before I bought the card) that the current mini SD standard stops at 2gb. These "4GB" cards are really 2gb cards that have been hacked and reformatted to 4gb. Now, apparently this works, but drastically shortens the card's shelf life. It is said that most of them die within a few months, if they last that long.
I just wanted to post a poll regarding this issue. Hope this is of interest to everyone.
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Well if what you are saying is true, then shouldn't the same apply to SD cards? I had used a 4gb SD card for 2 years in my Magician and Prophet without a problem...I think it was a Transcend.
Matterhorn said:
Well if what you are saying is true, then shouldn't the same apply to SD cards? I had used a 4gb SD card for 2 years in my Magician and Prophet without a problem...I think it was a Transcend.
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I think it does apply to standard size SD cards too:
I looked at the Sandisk site and the only 4 gig cards that were being sold were listed as SDHC. Nothing on the official site over 2gb that wasn't high capacity. I was able to track down the Trancend card you were talking about from a reseller (and numerous other ones including Ebay) however, if you go to the official Transcend site you see that there are no standard SD cards in a 4gb size.
This leads me to believe that the info I have been reading regarding this is correct. If the manufacturers are really putting out 4gb cards, why are they not on their official websites?
But the point remains that these 4gb cards (hacked or not) do indeed work in the Trinity (as well as other devices.) It's just for how long that is the question. I just want to find out with what regularity these cards dying so we can judge whether or not it is a worthy risk to buy one and trust our precious data to it.
Matterhorn, I appreciate you relaying your experience with the 4gb standard SD card. Perhaps the hacking and reformatting is more stable in the standard size as compared to the mini version? Hopefully this poll will help us figure it out.
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Matterhorn, I appreciate you relaying your experience with the 4gb standard SD card. Perhaps the hacking and reformatting is more stable in the standard size as compared to the mini version? Hopefully this poll will help us figure it out.
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The label on the 4gb SD Transcend looks exactly like the official Transcend color scheme. The card itself is in blue plastic and the label is in vibrant colors with Transcend, 150x, and 4GB written on the label. I believe this is the same one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820208086. It also has a serial number stamped on the back. I really don't think it is a fake Transcend.
My Topram 4gb miniSD continues to faithfully work in my Trinity. I don't know anything about this ebay vendor, this link is just for info http://item.express.ebay.com/TOPRAM...320102528838QQihZ011QQtrZexpQQcmdZExpressItem. It came packaged like an authentic card, some others have no professional packaging. Perhaps it will give up one day, if it does I'll report it right away. I know there has been quite a few people stating that their miniSD cards have quit on them, which I'm sure is true, but I can't help but believe that the squeaky wheel gets the grease, meaning that people that have no problems with their cards are less likely to post results.
I've been using a 4gb card in my Trinity for about a month now.
Gave me a few problems with Media player at one stage. The MSME files for the library dissappeared and I couldnt get them deleted to fix the media library problem.
Put the card in my desktop reader and suddenly they appeared again!!
Since then - no probs. Have it well filled up with mixeded media and prog files.
Matterhorn said:
The label on the 4gb SD Transcend looks exactly like the official Transcend color scheme. The card itself is in blue plastic and the label is in vibrant colors with Transcend, 150x, and 4GB written on the label. I believe this is the same one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820208086. It also has a serial number stamped on the back. I really don't think it is a fake Transcend.
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I know I sound like a conspiracy theorist, but this still doesn't account for why 4gb standard SD (non-HC) cards are not on the company's official website.
psargent said:
Hello all,
So I started poking around about 4gb cards and found (like I probably should have done before I bought the card) that the current mini SD standard stops at 2gb. These "4GB" cards are really 2gb cards that have been hacked and reformatted to 4gb. Now, apparently this works, but drastically shortens the card's shelf life. It is said that most of them die within a few months, if they last that long.
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Wouldnt it stand to reason that if they were 2gb cards "hacked" to 4gb they wouldnt have the capability to store 4gb worth of data? What you are inferring is the "Tardis" effect. Bigger on the inside than the outside which to my knowledge is not currently possible. A bit like having a normal sized mini car with 7 MPV seats inside. I think is just a matter of intermittent hardware to hardware clash/incompatibility not a 2gb hack.
Must admit,have suffered from the card corruption syndrome for the first time in my life whilst using the M700 trinity.Talk about heart attack!!!! The thing that makes me think it is a hardware compatability issue is that I have used that same 4gb miniSD in my wizard variants,prophet variants,treo's etc for over 7months no stress. Hence I know the card is good (thanx mobymemory!)
4GB Problems
I bought a no-name 4GB miniSD cheap on ebay. It worked fine initially in my Trinity, but only took a few launches of TomTom to get corrupted - "no maps found" and hundreds of smiley faces in File Explorer. I was always able to reformat and start over, but soon got tired of that. Strangely the same card performed perfectly when used in an I-mate Jam (inside an SD adapter) or when in a card reader on the PC. I got rid of the card and got a Kingston 2GB and have had no problems since.
I just got more TomTom maps and am trying to decide whether to take the plunge again. Anyone got any positive 4GB stories?
gynkotek said:
I bought a no-name 4GB miniSD cheap on ebay. It worked fine initially in my Trinity, but only took a few launches of TomTom to get corrupted
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So far so good, happens the same to me
gynkotek said:
Strangely the same card performed perfectly when used in an I-mate Jam (inside an SD adapter)
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I do not have the Jam but tested on my XDAII and works perfectly!!
How can I format it?
well i have a 4gb trans. SD 150x it works in my other mp3 player now for a long time, but as far as mini i dont know
i got a topram atm and it seems like it worked for a format or 2 and died after didnt even get to use it in my pocketPC, sending RMA request now :/
i was really looking forward to hear more good news about the 4gb topram miniSD but i dont know atm
I think maybe the poll should be changed to include SDHC cards since that is a variable that is very important on judging the 4gb cards. SDHC cards work but are just not reliable yet in the current roms.
psargent said:
I know I sound like a conspiracy theorist, but this still doesn't account for why 4gb standard SD (non-HC) cards are not on the company's official website.
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Now this is very strange:
Go to http://www.topram.com/
look at the picture in the middle right under "MiniSD" (orange background): The picture shows a 4.0GB MiniSD Card
BUT
If you click on the picture they tell you only the following cards do exist:
120X 2GB miniSD
120X 1GB miniSD
60X 512MB miniSD
60X 256MB miniSD
no 4.0GB MiniSD
What is this??????????
I tried very hard to find Matterhorns Card in Germany. No success. Simply cant find them. Not on any german online shop. Not in any real world shop. Very very strange.
saminegm said:
Now this is very strange:
Go to http://www.topram.com/
look at the picture in the middle right under "MiniSD" (orange background): The picture shows a 4.0GB MiniSD Card
BUT
If you click on the picture they tell you only the following cards do exist:
120X 2GB miniSD
120X 1GB miniSD
60X 512MB miniSD
60X 256MB miniSD
no 4.0GB MiniSD
What is this??????????
I tried very hard to find Matterhorns Card in Germany. No success. Simply cant find them. Not on any german online shop. Not in any real world shop. Very very strange.
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Oh ye of little faith
I bought mine from an ebay shop. You won't find them in Germany because they are from Asia and they're not marketed here. It came in sealed plastic and looked very professionally packaged. As far as the web site goes...how up to date are half the manufacturers web sites on the web?...not very.
http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?from=R40&satitle=4gb+miniSD+topram&category0=
My 4gb SD Transcend card works perfect now that I have updated WM6.
mmone3 said:
My 4gb SD Transcend card works perfect now that I have updated WM6.
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That's very good news. Thanks for that info!
good morning guys.
let me share some information i have about flash memory.
few month ago one big electronic shop in my ciy was offering usb flash disk of sizes up to 16 gb. in very cheap price.
alot of my frinds buy that memory.
after few days alot of them returen to the shop to exchange them becuse the memory damged.
some of them did not have anyproblem untile today !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
the reason is .
these memory are just 4 gb memeory and haked to be like 16 gb.
so if u try to write one bite over 4 gb you will start write this bite over the first bite of card and you will damge the data on that bite. and maybe the card will not be usable again.
this hake is known to be used on other media before flash memorys.
it was used in some hard disk to foll consumers.
the same story here.
if u have a 4 gb Mini-SD . just try to put more than 2 gb and your data will be gone (bye bye bye). maybe the card will be not usable again .
hssona said:
good morning guys.
if u have a 4 gb Mini-SD . just try to put more than 2 gb and your data will be gone (bye bye bye). maybe the card will be not usable again .
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This theory has been proven to be not true over and over again...search the forums.
hm, hello and from me..
I bought 4 gb minisd Albatron, and after 2 days, the card just stopped. I tryed to format it, but no success. The card just died. After that i read this topic and searched on the albatron site to find some mini sd 4 gb card, and i cant find... after that i exchange the card with 1 gb Kingston and since then - no problems at all.. And i think that this 4 gb minisd cards are really hacked and if you have luck - you may use it maybe 5-6 months.. but i really dont buy 4 gb card, until the manufacturer says that they have one.
Regards,
4Gb Topram mini SD - fine. I've used 2 of these and they have been OK.
2Gb Transcend mini SD - useless. Would corrupt in a few hours no matter what I tried.
1Gb O2 branded mini SD - fine.
I'm still using a generic 4GB card that I bought of EBay and its settling down fine after about 3 months use. although at times, it can be just about noticably slow.
I've had a lot of trouble with the card 'dissappearing' ow and again and the Media Player library going awol. However, the fix's for those problems are well published on other threads.
I purschased a Sandisk 4GB SDHC card hoping it might be a bit faster, th Trinity cant even see it!! So much for SDHC support.
Was using my SanDisk 8GB SDHC card that came with my Touch HD when I noticed I couldn't access the card - I've rebooted and still can't access and tried it in Windows with a SDHC reader - its not recognised. Anyone else's card gone yet and do I try to get a new one off the UK dealer that supplied the Touch HD or SanDisk themselves??
Mine wasnt working from the start, never worked.
If I put it in the HD, it says "Neesds to be formatted" I format it but still isn't working.
Tried it on 3 different pc's with 2 different sd adapters.
I think that Sandisk provides a lifetime warranty m8
Try:
StorageTools from www.softwinter.com
This loads on the internal memory and will verify SD card and then format it if needed.
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Was using my SanDisk 8GB SDHC card that came with my Touch HD when I noticed I couldn't access the card - I've rebooted and still can't access and tried it in Windows with a SDHC reader - its not recognised. Anyone else's card gone yet and do I try to get a new one off the UK dealer that supplied the Touch HD or SanDisk themselves??
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is it worth the hassle? they are only a tenner, by the time you spend money on phone calls, letters and postage to return the dead card, itll be cheaper just to go buy one new
jonajuna said:
is it worth the hassle? they are only a tenner, by the time you spend money on phone calls, letters and postage to return the dead card, itll be cheaper just to go buy one new
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Or wait 18 months and they will cost 2 UK pounds ?
I know they're cheap but its the principle of just chucking things away I don't like. Anyway Storagetools has restored it for the time being
i agree that we shouldnt just chuck stuff away, but if you hadnt been able to fix it, then buying a new one wouldve been cheaper (all told) than the hassle/expense of getting it replaced under warranty... if the warranty covers accessories of course (which i would doubt)
glad youve sorted it