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Does your 'Phonepad' input method work?

Hi, when entering text on the touchscreen, if you click the small keyboard icon at the bottom you get a choice of input methods like Transcriber, Keyboard, Phonepad... For me, when I click Phonepad it just brings up the regular QWERTY keyboard, not the nice chunky Phonepad skin that 2003 used to use for T9 input. Anyone got this same problem or is it just me?

I've never had a 2003 device, so I'm not sure if it's the same as 2003 or not, but I definitely get a phone pad type thing when I click on phonepad with my Jasjar.
HTH,
Brett

Is it the same Phonepad you get with the 'Keyboard' option from that menu, or is it a sort of 3D modelled effect numeric keypad only with the T9 alphabet on the number keys?
If the latter, anyone any idea why mine isn't?

It's definitely different than the Keyboard option and it sounds like what you're describing... a sort of 3D phone dial pad thing with a couple of extra buttons thrown in (arrows mostly).
I have no idea why yours isn't working... as much of a pain as it is, maybe try a hard reset? I had a problem getting my LED to notify me of new mail messages... it seemed to work for everyone but me. Finally I gave in and did the hard reset and it's been working fine since.
Brett

Just as I got it all how I like it!
Is there a good, free, backup program out there for WM2005?

Ok this is weird, it wasn't working, then I messed with some of the Phonepad Options (changed language, unticked boxes, etc.) to try to trip it into life, and it worked!
Then stopped working
Back to just Keyboard now. Any other ideas guys? Maybe a registry entry that tells the device what applet to call upon to show the input method?

Mine is very dodgy too. It works at times and then at other times changing to is simply causes the standard keyboard to appear. I *think* it's a memory issue as I've found that closing all applications through the task manager, then changing the input method to Block Recognizer and then back to phone pad sometimes works.
I've tried more than one hard reset without any luck...
Dave

Mine is very dodgy too. It works at times and then at other times changing to is simply causes the standard keyboard to appear. I *think* it's a memory issue as I've found that closing all applications through the task manager, then changing the input method to Block Recognizer and then back to phone pad sometimes works.
I've tried more than one hard reset without any luck...
Dave

Glad its not just me. Damn that memory issue!

Try to make Phonepad als default
Same Problem,
no memory Problem.
Try to make PhonePad als default SIP. It works fine on my MDA Compact (Marican) GERMAN T-Mobile
But when i switch back to Keyboard it will hang.

Somewhere on this site's FTP ftp://[email protected]/ there is a phonepad application you can download. I did and it re-installed the program which then worked. You could try that. Good luck!

I had the same problem and used the a quick fix for it disappearing found somewhere on the forum,
something along the lines of do a reset
go into contacts
choose phonepad input method
and it will display correctly until next time it goes wrong.
However upgrading to the latest rom it has never disappeared for me yet.

03 has no such keypad. Not on my XDA2 anyway. There is a 3rd party app called Quickey though which does the job reasonably.

I think the problems with the phone pad entry has been fixed in the last 2 software updates from O2 - are you still on the old versions?
I had the same problems when I first got my Exec but not had any issues with it for a while now.
Smiffy.

Has anyone found the fix to the phone pad issue? Been around in the FTP site but do not find the phone pad application. Any kind souls to help?

there is no fix for the keypad issue i looked and looked and looked the only way i got it to reappear was by upgrading to a new rom it still wouldn't appear with any other rom previous to aku 2 either but now i am running on summiter's aku 2.2 rom for my wizard and it works great and the phone pad is there

Is there an solution out there?
I have the same problem with my htc p3600.. the phonepad does not appear...

Solution Found
I have a solution and it works for me...
1)Switch off any devices like WiFi, Bluetooth, and for the moment disable any start-up applications (from starting) - To minimize system memory usage
I have done it with SPB Pocket Plus. It can disable any start-up application becuase it starts in "safe-mode"...
2)Remove CF and SD storage cards - There have been some bugs reported for storage cards where they may drain system resources if too many applications are loaded on the cards.
3)Select the default keyboard as the default input method - To temporarily prevent other input methods from being the default method
4)Soft reset the device
5)Open an application like Notes/Word
6)Select Phone Pade as the input method by clicking on the screen's bottom right icon's arrow and selecting Phone Pad from the list of available input options.
7)You should be able to use Phone Pad in all other applications as well as switching on WiFi and the start-up applications.
For me works fine, after soft reset !!!
Please try this solution.... and give us feedback!!
Greetings chrisonline

Remapping D-Pad while on Phone screens

I've been searching for a while for a re-mapper/utility that will remap the d-pad to move around the numbers while on the Phone screen. Currently the D-pad does nothing while you're in the Phone dialing or call screen. It would make the Wiz into a great one-handed device if I can get the D-pad to move around the on-screen numbers pad. The center button can emulate pressing of the on-screen numbers. This way I can use one hand to enter the phone number and not having to use use my hands or the stylus while on-the-go.
I know I can slide out the keyboard but are you able to slide the KB out with 1 hand and use the number keys? I tried and it's VERY awkward and you'll have to remember to press the dot twice to enable the numbers. I'd rather not do that in a time of emergency.
Any one has tried to make this happen? Is there an app out there which will do this? This plus smartkeys/smallmenu will make the Wiz the ultimate one-handed device.

Anyone? am I the only one with a Wiz wishing for this function? I guess people like touching the screen with their hands more than I thought...

I would really be interested in something that could achieve this. I have my K-JAM in a PDAir case and being able to simply dial numbers with the keypad would be great. Rather than scroll through the contact list or opening the cover to access the keypad.

On Himalaya the D-pad had function in the dialer to get to call history and speed dial. That would help too.

edsub said:
On Himalaya the D-pad had function in the dialer to get to call history and speed dial. That would help too.
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That's the functionality I'd love to see too!

Would be nice!

remap of D-pad
can somone helps? It would be excelent - like D-pad of MDAC

Zathras said:
edsub said:
On Himalaya the D-pad had function in the dialer to get to call history and speed dial. That would help too.
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That's the functionality I'd love to see too!
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I want that too!! Like was in my Magician...

hi all,
A cool Japanese Freeware called FakeCursor does this. It doesn't tab between fields, but emulates a Dpad controlled 'mouse'.
There is a program called AEKmap that allows you to remap the keyboard.
I have attached several layouts I made for the Phone and Calculator for use with AEKmap. (2 of the layouts work in AEKmap free mode, the other 6 require $20 activation to avoid NAG screen.)
Joeman
btw on my qtek9100 the keyboard is automatically in number mode while in the phone application. I don't need to push the blue dot twice.

I'd just as soon se a remapper that brought back the WM 2003SE phone functionality (right - Call Histtoey, left - Speed dial, etc.)
It's a shame M$ took that out in WM5

*One WM5 developer*
"I got an idea. Let's make our new phones LESS functional. That'll give us a leg up on the competition."
*Everyone else there*
"BRILLIANT!!!"
:roll:

Did anyone create an aek file for mapping the alfa keys of the hardware k/b to the phonepad values.
ie: pressing a, b or c generates the code that is recognized by smartdialer (and interpreted as a, b or c respectively)
This way we can use the h/w keyboard letter-keys in the smartdialer!
This is especially handy when youre using the Wizard in your car in the landscape brodit holder (on-screen 'keys' are simply too small to be used safely)

it would be very cool.
wonder if Water can extend SmartyKeys for that - http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=41060

Did anyone create an aek file for mapping the alfa keys of the hardware k/b to the phonepad values.
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Try This...

OffBeatMammal said:
it would be very cool.
wonder if Water can extend SmartyKeys for that - http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=41060
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download version 0.5:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=250911

that man is a genius!

Has anyone managed to get T9 working consistently on a trinity?

I have tried sip change but I can't get phone pad to work on the trinity.
It has worked a couple of times and when it does it is great. As other members have said it is more likely to work if you go from keyboard to transcriber and then to phone pad. When I installed spb diary it stopped working completely and so did calligrapher, which had been working fine. I have now remved the spb diary today screen plug in and calligrapher has started working but whatever I try I can't get phone pad to work ever .
Swede claims to have this working http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1097471&postcount=25
but id definitely doesn't for me.
It seems like the problem is a combo of OS, additional software (definitely spb diary) and maybe other factors
Does anyone have any ideas or a suggestion for a different T9 input program (not tengo!)?
Thanks for any help

yeah, set it as default SIP with SKTools, works everytime.
HTC Phone Pad Input v1.0 build 22364

Apoc said:
yeah, set it as default SIP with SKTools, works everytime.
HTC Phone Pad Input v1.0 build 22364
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Mine works too, phonepad international
I've changed some values in the registry and set in as default

Apoc said:
yeah, set it as default SIP with SKTools, works everytime.
HTC Phone Pad Input v1.0 build 22364
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Hi,
please where can I find your PhonePad version? Has it all languages? If you can please post it to [email protected]
THX

I have the same problem. Works fine for a while, then it refuses to switch to the phone pad unless i soft reset, it just keeps reverting back to the keyboard.
I havent tried setting the default SIP, as I want the keyboard to be the default SIP, i just use the phonepad for text messages.
I haven't figured out if its clashing with any of the other software I have installed, (I have so many). Its annoying me though!

I have a similar problem...i can see the option of phonepad in the sip menu, but whenever I choose it it switchs back to keyboard...in fact I've never been able to get it to work.
Someone had me download a program called sipchange and its an app that makes it so you can change the preferred sip but even then it still goes back to keyboard...
Here is what I'm thinking could be a problem...
Right now, I have smart dial (since this is an HTC phone) but other than that, I don't have a keypad with numbers on it...so maybe I need a file somewhere with a pic of the keypad (1-0 a-z)
Does that make any sense?
L

htc Touch Dual Keypad

New cab with working files (all three keyboards) no key appearing fixed and some other bugs (still a couple popping up though) can't wait tell JUVS and some of the other guys get more of the new apps working. Thank you theloanranger !
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=336587&page=10
Cab file was be switched to new one
Didn't see anyone working on this in this section (seems focused in Elf right now) thought I would put it out there, seems you can get it working on non touch devices
forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1595623&postcount=29

nice sig with rampage, fedor and don fry
aaronsmckee said:
Didn't see anyone working on this in this section (seems focused in Elf right now) thought I would put it out there, seems you can get it working on non touch devices
forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1595623&postcount=29
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works!
it works on my orbit, would like to have dutch language support though...

htc keyboard
can we have vga theme for key board?

no good on my hermes !

leoiden said:
no good on my hermes !
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damn i'll try on hermes too ....and on my artemis ....
but in my ce emulator it also didn't work fully correct....
sometimes i just get black buttons....

It works on my Trinity (WM6) but not the symbol page. But I'm ok with it. Like the 'intelligence' of this over T9, but the scroll left and right (on screen) button is a bit too 'small' and near the edge for ease of scrolling. If that can be fixed, it will be even more perfect.

no good for elf
when i set in french language they a are no letters on keypad
thank you

Anyone manage to 'perfect' this beta version?
While it is useable, without the symbol can pose some inconvenience when you need the symbols.

It works fine on my touch. To get the symbols in blue you press and hold the key. It takes a little getting used to so you don't end up with .. but it does work.
For those getting blank screens, this should only happen when you bring up the keypad without selecting a text field. Meaning if you are in a selected text box the keys should display.
Another bug I found was if you install this keypad and then choose another one that you have installed (pocketCM, HTK, etc), it will not display any text. It's like you are typing in white. The cursor advances, but no text displays. I had to un-install this keypad to get my other input methods to work.
It may sound a little obsesive, but I timed myself using this new touch dual keypad and my pocketCM skin (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1597831&postcount=21) and every time I was able to type faster and more accurate with the pocketCM version. It was close (1:11 vs 1:08) for a couple sentances. I'm glad to see HTC putting a real finger operational keyboard on the Touch, but for now I will stick with pocketCM.

works on the mogul, install, soft reset...

2manyphones said:
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It may sound a little obsesive, but I timed myself using this new touch dual keypad and my pocketCM skin (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1597831&postcount=21)
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Nah man, that's a great idea. I think a "type-off" of sorts is a good way to determine what's best; although everyone has difference preferences, I think 90% of us subconsciously type the same.

any status on a new version that works a little better?
thx.
e..b

working on Hermes!
Its working fine on my Hermes WM6. Still get the blank buttons when trying to use it outside an application. But within application (e.g. Onecontact, IE ect..) all working fine. Even symbol key is working fine.
Its a great keyboard (esp. the T9 version)...First keyboard where the buttons are large and responsive (iv used sooo many now!).

btw...dont forget to softreset after installation before use!

No symbols
I get all the characters and numbers but the symbols are all blank. I am in the UK. Otherwise it's okay. I personally don't like PocketCM because unless there is lots of free memory it just pops up the default keyboard for me.

is there any way to turn the xt9 off i used the keypad for 5 mins adn when i switched to the normal keyboard the xt9 was still there.. can it be turned off?

^^yeah I found that incredibly annoying, I LOVE this keyboard but I had to uninstall it because the T9 would be there even when using the hardware keyboard!

Can anyone post any pics of this keyboard?

Yeah...T9 still there on hardware keyboard is really annoying!

[Q] How to use application that need Dpad?

Hello everybody,
Today, I have HTC Wizard with a lot of hardware keys . I like the blackstone but I'm affraid to see that there is no hardware keys (no Dpad). I use applications that work only with Dpad (no touchscreen functions).
Have you solution to have software direction pad when applications run (Like the soft direction keys on the virtual keyboard)?

The standard SIPs provided by HTC all have "virtual" arrow keys. Most apps will work fine with these, provided that they play nice when the SIP keyboard is enabled.
Also, I'm sure D-pad specific SIPs will appear soon, and I'm hoping for a virtual D-pad solution + WVGAFIX3 combo. The 160 rows of leftover pixels when in 480x640 mode would be just great for 4-directional buttons and and action/Enter key.
However, I've had the HD for a couple of weeks, and I can honestly say that I don't miss the D-pad at all. I migrated from a smartphone (HTC Vox), so I was definitely wary. I've found that most apps/games (and the WM 6.1 GUI) work fine with touch (as they well should, on WM Professional). For the really small buttons, a finger nail or stylus is needed, but I find these occasions to be rare.
The worst example I've come acroos is Opera Mini (essential on my Vox), which is practically unusable on the HD without the stylus. Then again, I don't miss Mini when I have Opera Mobile.
Would you care to elaborate a bit on the apps you need to use?

ugumba said:
Also, I'm sure D-pad specific SIPs will appear soon, and I'm hoping for a virtual D-pad solution + WVGAFIX3 combo. The 160 rows of leftover pixels when in 480x640 mode would be just great for 4-directional buttons and and action/Enter key.
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Yes I agree and I hope too
I hesitate between the touch HD abd the Xperia X1