Tip for even more one-handed WM5.0 - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General

One more tip for the people who want to use their Wizard without using the stylus most of the time.
I use AEBPlus in combination with Mort Buttons (www.sto-helit.de). AEBPlus remaps the buttons and gives the possibility to bind 3 apps to the messaging, IE, voice dial and camera buttons. By pressing the button 1,2 or 3 times the app than executes. Under one of these buttons I have a Mort Button, which contains a list of up to 12 apps or tasks. For instance: By double pressing the IE button I get a Mortbutton screen allowing me to turn my flightmode on or off, switch bluetooth on, off or discoverable (with Buzz Lightyear's SwitchIt), turn my screen landscape, open the comm manager, go to the today screen and open the start menu. By pressing the voice dial button once I get the ok button, by pressing twice voice dial starts and by pressing three times I get a mortbutton screen that opens a new note. I had to include the last one because AEBPlus is written for 2003 SE and the "hold" function for the voice notes is disabled. So is the Comm Manager button, AEBPlus has remapped it to the second IE button press. But by including Comm Manager on the Mort button list, that problem is solved as well. The setup is not perfect like this, and some people might object to losing the one-press Comm Manager and "hold"voicenote function, but for me it made WM even more one-handed, without the need for the stylus most of the time.

Good idea. I've never really looked at MortButtons, but I've set it up. Shame you can't map a button to OK.

Koksie, what do you use to toggle flightmode on and off? Switchit only controls BT and Infrared. Thanks

@ Echilon: That's where AEBPLus comes in. I mapped the close function of SPB Pocket Plus to my voice dial button through the options in SPB PP. 1 click and it closes everything, two presses is voice dial and three presses is a MortButton. the two apps together are a strong team. if you want an ok button instead of a close button, be aware that in most apps the center of the D-pad also acts as one. Of course you can also add the ok button from SPB PP to an AEBPus button or use the close from SPB. I found that the close button actually closes the apps or acts as ok, whereas the ok button only acts as ok or minimizes and does not really close.
@ efjay: I use a little app called tel.on-off.exe. It is a small app (6kb), Just copy it to a folder on your device, and make a connection to a MortButton. Unfortunately I have not been able to bind it to a button directly, it does not show up in the drop down menu with apps you can connect to a hardware button, so I just put it on the top of the list in my MortButton1. 1 click and my radio goes on or off. very helpfull. I'll attach the file here.
Good luck!

Hmmm. Wondering how I can restore back to where I was before the install of this software. Can someone please use a registry editor and export the keys and values for:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shell\Keys
Much thanks!
David

Koksie, thanks for the file. Unfortunately it doesnt fully work on my BA with WM5; it can switch to flight mode ok but cant turn the radio back on. Thanks anyway

Koksie said:
Unfortunately I have not been able to bind it to a button directly, it does not show up in the drop down menu with apps you can connect to a hardware button, so I just put it on the top of the list in my MortButton1. 1 click and my radio goes on or off. very helpfull. I'll attach the file here.
Good luck!
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Thanks for the program,i installed it,and i works!I have copied it into \windows\start menu\programmi\(my kjam version is italian),and from there i could mapped it directly to a button,without use mortbuttons.Hope it helps.

Echilon said:
Good idea. I've never really looked at MortButtons, but I've set it up. Shame you can't map a button to OK.
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Happily Wisbar Advance 2 provides a soft-OK/Close "button", I now mapped it to the comm button, but using AEBPlus I will make a totally new different key mapping!

another app...
buttonmax 2.0 from pcoketmax is also a fantastic app! binds 3 actions per button...
peace!

Is there any way of mapping Magic Button to a hardware key? I know you can map the application, but I don't know how to map its behaviour when you tap the close button to a hardware button? Is it a command line thing? Is it even possible?

Is there any way of mapping Magic Button to a hardware key
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It's a little bit roundabout, and probably unnecessary, but VJOkButt can be set to emulate physically clicking the ok button. If your ok button/ok button replacement is in the normal place, top right, using the -justclick option will emulate clicking it.
You can then make a shortcut to VJOkButt -justclick, assign that to a hardware key, and you've now got Magic Button on demand.
V

Ok, that's wierd...
I just downloaded VJOKButt, and went about assigning it to my internet button on my K-Jam. For some reason, all the shortcuts, except for Just Click (the one I wanted!) work when assigned to the hardware button. Bizarre. If that's not wierd enough, Just Click works when I run it normally (i.e. by tapping its icon). I've tried both 0.61 and 0.63, and neither work.
What the hell's happening?

the_invisigoth: that is weird. So justclick works when you run the icon? Have you tried other hardware keys in case the net key uses a special state (I don't have a wizard so can't test the keyboard really)...
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Fraid it's not just the net key, it's all of them.
Damn, I was hoping you were going to have some super-intelligent explanation that would wow me, and give me the final piece in getting my phone to its sweet spot...
Any ideas, anyone?

So you're saying you can't use VJOkButt shortcuts on any hardware key?
That would be unusual. Did you install to the default location?
Most of us use VJOkButt on a hardware key. If -justclick works as an icon, then the issue to isolate is assigning the shortcut to the hardware key right?
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Right.
Installed it to the default location (Main Memory), and have the 6 versions in a folder on the Start Menu. Haven't heard of this sort of thing before...
Will do a bit of investigation during today, and let you know.

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So you're saying you can't use VJOkButt shortcuts on any hardware key?
That would be unusual. Did you install to the default location?
Most of us use VJOkButt on a hardware key. If -justclick works as an icon, then the issue to isolate is assigning the shortcut to the hardware key right?
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Had the same problem: wanted to use -justclick on my wizard with wm5 but didn't work. But the I used the plain VJOkButt and is working just fine.
I think the normal one (VJOkButt) is better than -justclick since will also close error messages or other messages in the center of the screen (i.e. with the ok button not in the upper-right corner). Is that right vijay? (maybe I'm wrong about the oprions )
BTW : MagicButton + VjOkButt + SmallMenu is a very good combination imho.
EDIT: Anyone knows how to "expand" the Settings meniu in SmallMenu?

kelu: -justclick is, unfortunately, just an emulator for clicking the ok/close button in the top right. It merely attempts to click approximately in the top right corner. I never use it, but it was for those using other close button emulators. I'll have to remember to fix the dialog closing issue with justclick.
Frankly, if you tell me what you need in your close button emulator, I'm still developing VJOkButt and I'll try to incorporate it (exclusion lists have already been requested. I'm currently working on a complicated but necessary fix on it disconnecting GPRS).
That's a strange bug that none of the shortcuts work. How are you assigning the shortcuts to the keyboard? Any special program or just settings > buttons?
Expanding the Settings menu in smallmenu?
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Follow this link on info about creating shortcuts to control panel stuff:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnppcgen/html/ppc_tcuts2.asp
I think there's a zip on BrightHand, Aximsite or ppcsg.com containing all the settings, but it's best to make your own to be sure you've got what you want.
You might also find this thread useful on how to give your folders nice icons (eg the star for favorites, in my screenshot)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=222846#222846
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Related

press & hold bindings to HW buttons?

What i'd like to do is assign more than 1 binding to the outlook button.
Exactly the same as the "voice dial" one has as standard (press for voice dial, hold for voice memo)
What i want is (on the mail/outlook/text button) press to open outlook, hold to start new text message.
Is there a reg key to change to allow this dual use?
If not (and i'd rather not add more software to map buttons) what software will allow this? Multipress isn't really an option, as pressing the button again now will cycle through the different text settings (sms, mms, e-mail etc) and put you in whatever folder you were in last (inbox, outbox etc)
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While i would still like to be able to do this, thanx to vijay555 who's phone tools 2 lets me start a blank sms from a today screen .lnk file
The only way to do it is using Vito Button mapper.
Button mapper supports macros as well.
Beeble
Have you read the thread about putting VJSMS on the softkeys, to start an sms straight from that key..
I'll have another related release that you'll hopefully like, coming soon.
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carphead said:
The only way to do it is using Vito Button mapper.
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I had to hard reset my Qtek9100 after Vito Button mapper installation, so I couldn't recommend it...
uppps another one ?¿?
Regards
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Beeble
Have you read the thread about putting VJSMS on the softkeys, to start an sms straight from that key..
I'll have another related release that you'll hopefully like, coming soon.
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I'll search some more later and keep an eye on your site!
Vito Button Mapper works here, but after a soft reset I get a popup message saying a certificate is missing.
Also, after installation my backlight was turned off. Went to settings and restored it and all works fine now (also after a reset... only problem is the popup)
Vito Button Mapper screwed up my softkeys.
Only in the 'Today Screen' however thats were a couple of my most used buttons were.
Now they don't work and sometimes change?
I would urge you NOT TO USE if you want to use soft keys in Today screen.
Robin
Soft keys can be configurated in the app, that is why you lost them for now...
Reconfig them:
Start -> Settings -> Buttons
Configuration drop down -> Today
Top 2 entries: Left softkey & Right softkey
Well yours must be different to mine.
When I open buttons the only choices I have are for the 5 hardware buttons.
No other choices are available????????
Robin

Mapping a "real" close feature to a hardware butto

I've been using Spb Pocket Plus but I have recently switched to Sbsh's products due to their better speed and less memory loss, but in doing so I lost PP's great feature to make the close button actually close the program and also mapping it to a hardware button.
So now I'm looking for a program to do this for me. Any recommendations?
Zapit seems like a good program but I can't really make it work. I have the Zapit.exe file in the program folder and clicking it closes the browser, but I can't figure out how to map it to a button.
Magic Button does not have the feature to map it to a hardware button, mapping to the program only displays the active programs at the top.
VJOkButt will do this and a bit more.
Let me know if you have no luck. There are a couple of more options as well, have a read through the VJOkButt thread.
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AEBPlus will do that and more.
What about our own loved SmartsKey?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=41060
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AEBPlus will do that and more.
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more = delete the registry entries for your comm manager button, rendering it useless.
guttrhead said:
more = delete the registry entries for your comm manager button, rendering it useless.
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Not to hijack the thread - but my comm manager button works just fine with AEBPlus and those times after I've had to uninstall it.
And I think there was a fix discussed for the Comm Manager issue on the board, right?
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Help please... the comm manager button on my prophet is scrwed by ae button plus... any1 know a fix???
HELP
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=33795
third post discusses the fix.
thanks guttrhead...
fix applied... and now works...
no problem. Anyone know of a free button mapper that doesn't crap things up?
I also had some problem with AEbutton. I first mapped "close activity" to the comm manager button which worked fine. I then added another function to the comm manager for 2 presses which also worked fine but then the one press function stopped working. I had to remove all the functions and then soft reset to get it working again.
I tried the camera button as well with the same results.
It seems there is some problem mapping several functions (one button press, two press, three press and hold) with AEButton/Wizard. As long as I only map one function to each button it works fine.
But I'm happy, I just wanted a close function mapped to a button and I got it.
I started having a bunch of problems after installing AEButton and it didn't work as it said either since I could only map one function to each button.
Uninstalled it and gave VJ Okbutt a try and so far it's the best program I've tried. Works like a charm.
I use SmartKeys, and reset the Camera hardbutton to OK/Close. And just placed a camera link on traylaunch.
When on Camera function, the hardware button reverts back to camera clicking without any further tweaking required.
Works like a charm

Want to remap hardware buttons freely...how ? (and some other tweaking-requests)

Does anyone know a registry hack yet for making it possible to remap ALL hardware buttons (or at least the OK button below the jog-wheel, cause this seems to be hard-coded to the Windows-menu) !?
Preferably a reg-hack that (re)enables this options in the regular \Settings\Buttons tab...
Another problem i want to fix (apart from the ROM being immature) is the fact that i have to go all the way into the Bluetooth-settings on the CommManager screen to connect my Jabra 620s in stereo/audio-mode, which is quite anoying and timeconsuming...
Some other strange thing is that when i want use Voicecommand (while playing audio) to either call someone or speak a command to WMP, this will only work when i use VC-assigned button on the device, and NOT with the answer/end button on my headset (wich should be working like the VC-button on device).
Anyone able to help me here ?
PS: i'm quite experienced WM user dating back to the Wyvern/PalmsizePC CE 2.12 devices...but i just can't seem to find my way around these huge registries in todays devices anymore... guess i'm getting old...
Anyone please ...?
I would like to know too. Style-wise, there are a lot of things HTC got wrong with the Trinity. In fact, I found the HTC Wizard better designed.
Damn thing needs IE, Messaging, Comm Manager buttons and a Volume slide but instead it has 2 OK buttons and a jog/dial which I rarely use.
Not to mention how buggy the release ROM is, what with huge delays between standby mode and MiniSD cards requiring re-insertion to work properly.
P.S. It would be nice to be able to change the functionality of the jog/dial wheel to volume control.
Yup - this is driving me nuts too.
I have 7 hardware buttons (inc the power button) on the trinity and I can only map 3 of them from Settings.
It's a real handicap (& Voice Command is conflicting with the voice dial button - or at least that's what I think is happening with my repeated failed installations).
Some wisdom from the forum would be almost as appreciated as a fix
Thanks,
M1
Mark One said:
Yup - this is driving me nuts too.
I have 7 hardware buttons (inc the power button) on the trinity and I can only map 3 of them from Settings.
It's a real handicap (& Voice Command is conflicting with the voice dial button - or at least that's what I think is happening with my repeated failed installations).
Some wisdom from the forum would be almost as appreciated as a fix
Thanks,
M1
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I don't have my Trinity yet, but have you tried some of the 3rd party Button remappers that are available? Magic Button etc.
forcedalias said:
I would like to know too. Style-wise, there are a lot of things HTC got wrong with the Trinity. In fact, I found the HTC Wizard better designed.
Damn thing needs IE, Messaging, Comm Manager buttons and a Volume slide but instead it has 2 OK buttons and a jog/dial which I rarely use.
Not to mention how buggy the release ROM is, what with huge delays between standby mode and MiniSD cards requiring re-insertion to work properly.
P.S. It would be nice to be able to change the functionality of the jog/dial wheel to volume control.
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I got my Trinity last friday and am using a 2Gb MiniSD card and so far no problems with it. I feel no real delay when coming out of standby mode and no problem at all with the MiniSD card, maybe you got a early version of the ROM that contained this particular problems.
I do agree with you with the OK buttons, but i also understand the way they were designed, the button close to the jog wheel is to be used together with the jog wheel so that you can single handedly use the machine.
Lets see if someone suggests a good 3rd party tool to remap the buttons and then everybody is happy ;-)
VC with BT headset
Moaske said:
Some other strange thing is that when i want use Voicecommand (while playing audio) to either call someone or speak a command to WMP, this will only work when i use VC-assigned button on the device, and NOT with the answer/end button on my headset (wich should be working like the VC-button on device).
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I am able to get VC to work with call/answer button when using my Motorola headsets H300 and HS805. The phone needs to be out of standby mode ie screen needs to be on. I can't seem to get it to work with my R35 I.tech stereo wireless headset. I guess this could mean compatibility issues between headsets? Does the call/answer button work if you are not listening to music?
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I am able to get VC to work with call/answer button when using my Motorola headsets H300 and HS805. The phone needs to be out of standby mode ie screen needs to be on. I can't seem to get it to work with my R35 I.tech stereo wireless headset. I guess this could mean compatibility issues between headsets? Does the call/answer button work if you are not listening to music?
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Yes...you're right...it does work when the screen of my trinity is on. But offcourse when listening to music the screen is gonna be off...
The button on the headset does activate voicecommand when device is on (ie screen on) and no music is playing. But i'd rather have it understand my commands like "what track is this" while music plays (without having to take out the phone of my pocket).
As for the button-mapping: i'm familiar with the buttonmappers out there, but another application on my trinity is just not what i need... Is there really no way to get to this functionality through the registry ? I've searched quite a chunk of the registry but gave up; i just can't find it...
lmbranco said:
...I do agree with you with the OK buttons, but i also understand the way they were designed, the button close to the jog wheel is to be used together with the jog wheel so that you can single handedly use the machine...
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Precisely: one handed operation... That's what i want, so i want the button next to the jogdial to be the ALT+TAB function (which is available through Spb PocketPlus)...so i want to be able to map this to whatever button i like, not just the 2 options HTC gave me... (i don't count press'n hold as an extra button).
I think it's quite ridiculous to have TWO buttons activating the startmenu, and have them hardcoded to that. What's the point in 2 buttons doing the same thing ?
Being able to change the 'Windows' button woukld also be a fine sollution...
Try AE Button Plus. Your solution will not lie in the registry.
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vijay555 said:
Try AE Button Plus. Your solution will not lie in the registry.
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i tried it, it can't change OK and Start Menu hardware button !!! >.<
vijay555 said:
Try AE Button Plus. Your solution will not lie in the registry.
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i tried AE Button Plus, it can't change OK and Start Menu hardware buttons
vijay555 said:
Try AE Button Plus. Your solution will not lie in the registry.
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Just tried, it works (AE Button Plus -> File -> Add button)
But i found a little bug, after i used it to swap Right Softkey and Start Menu Button, Start Menu Button works fine (changed to be Right Softkey) but for Right Softkey, no matter how i press it, start menu will not be shown !!!
Because, after i press Right Softkey, Start Menu Button event is triggered, but Start Menu Button is set to be Right Softkey by AE Button Plus, so at the end pressing Right Softkey will be regarded as pressing REAL Right Softkey rather than Start Menu.
The most strange thing is that such bug will not happen when pressing pressing Start Menu Button =.="
Any idea ? How to solve it ?
Thanks in advance
Speak to the author. He's on this forum and he's a great guy.
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tommytao said:
Just tried, it works (AE Button Plus -> File -> Add button)
But i found a little bug, after i used it to swap Right Softkey and Start Menu Button, Start Menu Button works fine (changed to be Right Softkey) but for Right Softkey, no matter how i press it, start menu will not be shown !!!
Because, after i press Right Softkey, Start Menu Button event is triggered, but Start Menu Button is set to be Right Softkey by AE Button Plus, so at the end pressing Right Softkey will be regarded as pressing REAL Right Softkey rather than Start Menu.
The most strange thing is that such bug will not happen when pressing pressing Start Menu Button =.="
Any idea ? How to solve it ?
Thanks in advance
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And pressing Camera button, the Start Menu Button event will be triggered. it seems that there're some bugs in "Add button" functions of AE Button Plus
vijay555 said:
Speak to the author. He's on this forum and he's a great guy.
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OK OK !!! Let me find him
tommytao said:
[...] It seems that there're some bugs in "Add button" functions of AE Button Plus
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So it seems AE Button Plus is not the THE perfect tool for that, anyone tried another soft ?
Hi guys,
I'm too looking for a way to remap the startmenu-button for e.g. starting an application. No 3rd party software I tried so far is able to do so...
Any suggestion how to reassign the startmenue button to call a specific application?
Cheers
Punga
AEButton Plus maps all but the standby button...
... on my Wizard. Well, it doesn't touch the soft-reset, the camera gets funky when I try to map it, and I can't seem to move the vibrate function off the hold "Comm Manger" Key. Given I've got 50 different hardware button options, (or 37 added if I leave all the default functioning in place) with this nifty shareware (basically fully functional if you want to use it free forever), who cares about the dumb camera button (not in the count above).
My biggest problem is remebering where I mapped it all. My second is making decisions about how to map them.... :|| (that's a repeat sign in music-talk)
You gotta try it. I'd be curious to find out how it works on your hardware.
http://ae.inc.ru/aebplus.php

Recent Apps vs Menu button - good or bad change?

I have an S3 and have gotten really used to the left-of-the-home-button-button being the Menu button. I actually even like the fact that a long press of the Menu button gets me to Google Search. So much so that it allowed me to get rid of the actual 4x1 Google Search widget space hog from my home screen.
This new change on the Note 4 to having this button programmed to be a Recent Apps button isn't going to cause me to cancel my preorder, but it did get me thinking to how potentially annoying it may become. That being said, I am open to innovative changes and the idea that the Recent Apps button may actually grow on me to the point of me actually having a preference for it, especially since this monstrosity of a smartphone seems like it has the potential to take multitasking to the next level.
What's your take on it? Also, are there other phones with a similar Recent Apps button and, if so - for those that have experienced it - how do you like it?
Edit: And for those who are unaware, you can still get to the Menu options on the Note 4 via a long press of the new Recent Apps button.
Pretty sure all other android phones go with the Home, Back, and Recent Apps dedicated buttons. I'm glad they put Recent Apps instead since I use that a lot more than the menu.
I used the S3 for two years before the S5 and adapted to the change just fine. IMHO it's a non issue.
Sent from my SM-G900H using Tapatalk
You can always create a shortcut for the 'Recent Apps' on the Home screen. But you can't do the same for the Menu button.
IMO the Menu button will be used more frequently than the Recent Apps button.
It's good change IMO.
because google already pushed their app to not use menu button, e.g. in the google play. Device that have menu button can't use that anymore, I think a lot of dev will follow google way since this android, even it's open source, still belong to google anyway.
Just my opinion though
My wife has s5 and I hate new set up. Sometimes the app menu button is hard to find, sometimes you need to swipe from right to left, sometimes it's an icon, often different for different apps, in different locations, hardware menu button was always there to help with any confusion. I still didn't figure out how to access menu on home screen to create folder or edit page, and where is RAM/ downloaded apps/active apps/clear definition screen? It only shows RAM status without clear option and active apps, completely useless. I guess at some point in the future I'll have to get used to it, by then they'll probably change it again.
Great change
Sent From my Nokia Lumia 635
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My wife has s5 and I hate new set up. Sometimes the app menu button is hard to find, sometimes you need to swipe from right to left, sometimes it's an icon, often different for different apps, in different locations, hardware menu button was always there to help with any confusion. I still didn't figure out how to access menu on home screen to create folder or edit page, and where is RAM/ downloaded apps/active apps/clear definition screen? It only shows RAM status without clear option and active apps, completely useless. I guess at some point in the future I'll have to get used to it, by then they'll probably change it again.
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Hard to find? Not sure what apps you're using buddy, but all mine have the menu button in the exact same place.
aooga said:
Hard to find? Not sure what apps you're using buddy, but all mine have the menu button in the exact same place.
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Let's see Calc + has no menu icon, hardware button doesn't work, need to swipe left to right for menu
Supersu has no icons, no hardware button, setting on top
oakla speed test no icon, settings on bottom
Google maps has menu icon in left bottom corner
firefox has no settings, no menu icon I can see, just hardware menu button
internet has no menu that I can see, without hardware button I had no idea how to access menu.
That's just a random sample here.
So, yes buddy, many applications I use have different menu setup and different location for it, as listed above.
pete4k said:
Let's see Calc + has no menu icon, hardware button doesn't work, need to swipe left to right for menu
Supersu has no icons, no hardware button, setting on top
oakla speed test no icon, settings on bottom
Google maps has menu icon in left bottom corner
firefox has no settings, no menu icon I can see, just hardware menu button
internet has no menu that I can see, without hardware button I had no idea how to access menu.
That's just a random sample here.
So, yes buddy, many applications I use have different menu setup and different location for it, as listed above.
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In all those apps the hardware menu key does nothing either. So I don't know what that would accomplish.
aooga said:
In all those apps the hardware menu key does nothing either. So I don't know what that would accomplish.
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What do you mean?
in Firefox and Internet that's the only way I know off how to access settings (I'm sure there is another way I just didn't figure it out yet?) and I use it all the time to change to desktop page, clear cookies, history etc.
The only programs in my sample that don't work with hardware menu button are calc+ and supersu, otherwise even Google maps works with hardware menu button (I use older version).
The fact is hardware button was consistent and worked on most programs I use, without it I was often lost when using S5, since everybody implements menu's in different way it seems. People complain about millisecond lag on the phone, when using S5 I would waste 2-5 seconds looking for the way to access menu and that was after i learned not to press left hardware button, lol. I just don't like new set up and prefer the way it was originally, maybe it's just me.
pete4k said:
What do you mean?
in Firefox and Internet that's the only way I know off how to access settings (I'm sure there is another way I just didn't figure it out yet?) and I use it all the time to change to desktop page, clear cookies, history etc.
The only programs in my sample that don't work with hardware menu button are calc+ and supersu, otherwise even Google maps works with hardware menu button (I use older version).
The fact is hardware button was consistent and worked on most programs I use, without it I was often lost when using S5, since everybody implements menu's in different way it seems. People complain about millisecond lag on the phone, when using S5 I would waste 2-5 seconds looking for the way to access menu and that was after i learned not to press left hardware button, lol. I just don't like new set up and prefer the way it was originally, maybe it's just me.
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Sorry, I'm lost. The menu button in Firefox is i the exact same place as every other app.
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An actual menu button is so 2011.
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m3lover1 said:
An actual menu button is so 2011.
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Lol.
Now that I think about it, I probably use the long press of the home button (recent apps) on my S3 more so than the Menu button.
What does a long press of the home button on the Note 4 do now?
on mine there is no menu like that
livinginavacuum said:
Lol.
Now that I think about it, I probably use the long press of the home button (recent apps) on my S3 more so than the Menu button.
What does a long press of the home button on the Note 4 do now?
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long press home button gives you google search on GS5 , recent apps is where menu used to be, I would imagine note 4 is similar, unless they changed it again.

Best Ways to Use the Smart Key

It's pretty standard for any good smartphone to come with a fingerprint scanner these days. The Honor 8 has a fingerprint scanner with an extra feature. If you press on the sensor, you'll feel it click much like the button on a refrigerator would if refrigerators had buttons. You can assign custom actions to this button for press, double press and press and hold.
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To get started, go to your smart assistance menu and select smart key.
Here the setup process will be obvious so I'll skip that and let you know what I've been using the smart key for.
One Press activates my flashlight. I often go for a walk around the woods at night and I need to be able to see what's going on without fumbling around with my phone too much. Smart key is a perfect solution.
Double Press is set to open Snapchat simply because it's the app I use most often. It's common to have a shortcut button to your camera app but now I can launch straight into Snapchat.
Press and Hold is set to launch my Google Driving app. This app will automatically start navigating home when you launch it. So when I'm driving, all I have to do it press one button on my phone to start the navigation back to my house. I don't even have to look at my phone screen.
What are you using Smart Key for?
Using mine for Notes, Map, and Google Now
DrGreenway said:
It's pretty standard for any good smartphone to come with a fingerprint scanner these days. The Honor 8 has a fingerprint scanner with an extra feature. If you press on the sensor, you'll feel it click much like the button on a refrigerator would if refrigerators had buttons. You can assign custom actions to this button for press, double press and press and hold.
To get started, go to your smart assistance menu and select smart key.
Here the setup process will be obvious so I'll skip that and let you know what I've been using the smart key for.
One Press activates my flashlight. I often go for a walk around the woods at night and more often than not there are bears and wolves running around. I need to be able to see what's going on without lighting up my face by turning my screen on. Now I can just tap on the smart key and have an advantage when I have to fist fight a bear.
Double Press is set to open Snapchat simply because it's the app I use most often. It's common to have a shortcut button to your camera app but now I can launch straight into Snapchat.
Press and Hold is set to launch my Google Driving app. This app will automatically start navigating home when you launch it. So when I'm driving, all I have to do it press one button on my phone to start the navigation back to my house. I don't even have to look at my phone screen. It's much safer and I've found that I run over way less people this way.
What are you using Smart Key for?
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I would use it for flashlight, maps and Twitter
DrGreenway said:
It's pretty standard for any good smartphone to come with a fingerprint scanner these days. The Honor 8 has a fingerprint scanner with an extra feature. If you press on the sensor, you'll feel it click much like the button on a refrigerator would if refrigerators had buttons. You can assign custom actions to this button for press, double press and press and hold.
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To get started, go to your smart assistance menu and select smart key.
Here the setup process will be obvious so I'll skip that and let you know what I've been using the smart key for.
One Press activates my flashlight. I often go for a walk around the woods at night and more often than not there are bears and wolves running around. I need to be able to see what's going on without lighting up my face by turning my screen on. Now I can just tap on the smart key and have an advantage when I have to fist fight a bear.
Double Press is set to open Snapchat simply because it's the app I use most often. It's common to have a shortcut button to your camera app but now I can launch straight into Snapchat.
Press and Hold is set to launch my Google Driving app. This app will automatically start navigating home when you launch it. So when I'm driving, all I have to do it press one button on my phone to start the navigation back to my house. I don't even have to look at my phone screen. It's much safer and I've found that I run over way less people this way.
What are you using Smart Key for?
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Irony is always welcomed, in every topic. Keep on
nice and nifty feature.
best implementation of fingerprint sensor ever!!!!!
Would like to set the single click to go to Home Screen, but cannot find the Huawei Laucher in the list of apps (I'm giving it a try to the default launcher before going back to Google laucher).
My Double Click is Camera and Long Press Google Now
nCoder said:
Would like to set the single click to go to Home Screen, but cannot find the Huawei Laucher in the list of apps (I'm giving it a try to the default launcher before going back to Google laucher).
My Double Click is Camera and Long Press Google Now
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Why putting a single click for home screen?! Home button is there, I will use it for flashlight
DrGreenway said:
It's pretty standard for any good smartphone to come with a fingerprint scanner these days. The Honor 8 has a fingerprint scanner with an extra feature. If you press on the sensor, you'll feel it click much like the button on a refrigerator would if refrigerators had buttons. You can assign custom actions to this button for press, double press and press and hold.
View attachment 3851194View attachment 3851195View attachment 3851196
To get started, go to your smart assistance menu and select smart key.
Here the setup process will be obvious so I'll skip that and let you know what I've been using the smart key for.
One Press activates my flashlight. I often go for a walk around the woods at night and I need to be able to see what's going on without fumbling around with my phone too much. Smart key is a perfect solution.
Double Press is set to open Snapchat simply because it's the app I use most often. It's common to have a shortcut button to your camera app but now I can launch straight into Snapchat.
Press and Hold is set to launch my Google Driving app. This app will automatically start navigating home when you launch it. So when I'm driving, all I have to do it press one button on my phone to start the navigation back to my house. I don't even have to look at my phone screen.
What are you using Smart Key for?
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really an awesome feature...but if someone wants to do this with his phone...
1. root your phone...
2. Install xposed installer(experimental recommended)
3. open xposed and install framework
4. goto downloads and download "physical keys mapping"
5.activate the module and reboot...
6.open physical key mapping..
7.set it up...
8.enjoy...
#you can use these keys even when your phone locked
One press - Pokemon Go
Two press - Dominos
Three - Directions to MacDonalds
There is also another use of the Smart Key to pull down notification shade, clear them as well as to navigate while using gallery app.
It's under Settings -> Fingerprint ID
With those features, it seems like the button can be used for navigation as well. I sure wish someone can write an app to customize it as a back button
one press: flash light
two press: none
long press: smart controller
gavinfabl said:
One press - Pokemon Go
Two press - Dominos
Three - Directions to MacDonalds
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When I read McDonalds I couldn't stop laughing :laugh:
PalakMi said:
When I read McDonalds I couldn't stop laughing :laugh:
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why, is MacDonalds so funny??
one press: google
two press: camera
long press: torch
I would really like one press to be the home button though ,hold habits die hard as they say but the placement of the button is perfect, is there perhaps an app I could download to do this?
venom007 said:
why, is MacDonalds so funny??
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I don't know why I laughed it was unintended
PalakMi said:
I don't know why I laughed it was unintended
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well, it sounds yummy to me.
venom007 said:
well, it sounds yummy to me.
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Of course :highfive:
Good information.
Rather than using the Fingerprint sensor solely for its purpose, its using it to provide more functions to interact with the device intuitively.
That's where the Honor stands out
I got mine set for:
1. Calculator
2. smart remote
3. torch
I wish they could bring an update to slide the page up down on chrome, surfing the web or sliding up or down on twitter app. It would be great

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