I've been using Spb Pocket Plus but I have recently switched to Sbsh's products due to their better speed and less memory loss, but in doing so I lost PP's great feature to make the close button actually close the program and also mapping it to a hardware button.
So now I'm looking for a program to do this for me. Any recommendations?
Zapit seems like a good program but I can't really make it work. I have the Zapit.exe file in the program folder and clicking it closes the browser, but I can't figure out how to map it to a button.
Magic Button does not have the feature to map it to a hardware button, mapping to the program only displays the active programs at the top.
VJOkButt will do this and a bit more.
Let me know if you have no luck. There are a couple of more options as well, have a read through the VJOkButt thread.
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AEBPlus will do that and more.
What about our own loved SmartsKey?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=41060
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AEBPlus will do that and more.
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more = delete the registry entries for your comm manager button, rendering it useless.
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more = delete the registry entries for your comm manager button, rendering it useless.
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Not to hijack the thread - but my comm manager button works just fine with AEBPlus and those times after I've had to uninstall it.
And I think there was a fix discussed for the Comm Manager issue on the board, right?
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Help please... the comm manager button on my prophet is scrwed by ae button plus... any1 know a fix???
HELP
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=33795
third post discusses the fix.
thanks guttrhead...
fix applied... and now works...
no problem. Anyone know of a free button mapper that doesn't crap things up?
I also had some problem with AEbutton. I first mapped "close activity" to the comm manager button which worked fine. I then added another function to the comm manager for 2 presses which also worked fine but then the one press function stopped working. I had to remove all the functions and then soft reset to get it working again.
I tried the camera button as well with the same results.
It seems there is some problem mapping several functions (one button press, two press, three press and hold) with AEButton/Wizard. As long as I only map one function to each button it works fine.
But I'm happy, I just wanted a close function mapped to a button and I got it.
I started having a bunch of problems after installing AEButton and it didn't work as it said either since I could only map one function to each button.
Uninstalled it and gave VJ Okbutt a try and so far it's the best program I've tried. Works like a charm.
I use SmartKeys, and reset the Camera hardbutton to OK/Close. And just placed a camera link on traylaunch.
When on Camera function, the hardware button reverts back to camera clicking without any further tweaking required.
Works like a charm
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Is this possible?
I do use magic button but having to touch the screen to close an app sucks.
this seems to work, but only half works, it closes the apps, but leaves them running in the background, you have to go into settings and memory to close them fully, i would have thought microsoft would have thought of fixing that problem with this new WM 5.0 OS
joey jojo: I presume you're aware that this "feature" is by design to optimise performance of this platform?
VJOkButt will do what ranchosteve asked for, in conjunction with a hardware key mapper like AE Button Plus. However, I don't recommend the app. It doesn't seem to work perfectly for everyone and may be withdrawn.
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Under settings/buttons you can assign one of the buttons to close apps. I have used button 4. Hope this helps 8)
Use SmartKeys
Use SmartKeys - it allowes to use right softbutton to close the app when pressed down for a few seconds. Search for it in the forum. :wink:
With the Wizard I used VJOKButt with the IE-button so that I could close programs and dialogs without using the stylus.
The TyTN/Hermes has it's own OK button(s), and I was wondering if anyone knows a way these buttons can actually close (or be reconfigured to launch VJOKButt) programs?
I've already tried AE Button Plus but couldn't set a custom action for the OK button (allthough this might be because I didn't register the program)...
Any tips would be apreciated!
Moskus, if I ever get my computer working again,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=345461#345461
I may try to build such a feature in to VJOkButt, but I'd rather people be able to use their own button mappers. However, if AE Button plus doesn't do it, then I may try to build in this feature.
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Actually it does work, you just have to add it as a new button (menu | add button). I've got my OK hardware button mapped to ok/close for one press and close front application for a long press.
Steven
I certainly would love it if is was build in to VJOKButt, Vijay!
I guess I'll try AEButton again (for now). Didn't see that "Add button" feature.. :wink:
EDIT: The AEButton finds the hardware OK button, but the combination of VJOKButt and AEButton won't close the application, just minimize it. :?
With AE Button Plus 2.4.3 beta and upwards, you can capture and map the "ok" and "windows" buttons. Have set mine to close apps with 2 depresses of the "ok" button.
can it be done by tweaking some of the registry rather to instsall some of the 3rd party program?
Hmmm... I should have investigated some more. Now it works!
PQzII let's you map any button on the hermes (and universal) to anything you want...it is really great. It has an option to make the ok button a 'really close button' and much more.
http://www.nicque.com/PQz/PQzII.htm
You can find out a lot about it in this forum by searching for pqzII.
Hi All,
I'm trying AEBPlus and I tried to map the OK button the side to be "OK/Close" for one press and "Close active application" for two presses. however, the single press doesn't seem to work. Pressing it once no longer minimizes applications or funciton as the OK/Close button. In fact it does nothing. I'm using a CHT9000 with the Dopod English Rom. Anyone know how to fix this? Thanks!
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how about good old smartskey? it works in my Hermes, press&hold right softkey removes active window from memory.
Aye, but until it supports OK button it's less intuitive. The newest version support the OK button on the Prophet but this operates the PIE button on the Hermes. I've PM'd Water about it but no response
OK buttons NOT mappable under WM5..not through menus anyway!
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Aye, but until it supports OK button it's less intuitive. The newest version support the OK button on the Prophet but this operates the PIE button on the Hermes. I've PM'd Water about it but no response
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I agree. On my HTC Prophet using Wisbar Advanced 2, I am able to map the 'OK' button to 'Close/OK' option of the Wisbar application, which did close all my programs etc. On my VarioII the 'OK' buttons are not mappable. Bummer!!
Try PQZII for me is fantastic, not only to close programs, you can map everithing...
How d'u use it this PQZII? Help!!
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Try PQZII for me is fantastic, not only to close programs, you can map everithing...
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Forgive my stupidity, but I'm currently using it, but haven't a clue how to get it to that for sure. It seems to work for some applications, but not for others. Any tips or guides for dummies like me :lol:
I'll join the dummies club too!
PQzII would be perfect if we could attach key presses of the same key to different apps like in AE button plus.
unfortunately, once PQzII captures the button, it overides AE button plus, meaning the 2 can't work together on the same button.
also found out that AE button plus 2.5 doesn't capture the windows button at all. Investigated back and found that only 2.4.3 beta did.
I dont know AEbutton so I dont understand why you want use both the programs. (note: also PQZ dose not configure well the win button) but you can configure any other button, eg: alt+left to close program (I put alt in internet button so if I want to close a program I press "internet program" and "left".
I've mapped my 'Button 5' (under settings/Buttons...) to 'Close/ok' of the Wisbar Advanced settings, which does close everything. Just until, as bydandie said, a more intuitive method can be achieved by using the 'ok' button.
in PQZII there is an option to make ok button to close, I dont use that option because I want to have some programs running down, you can try
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in PQZII there is an option to make ok button to close, I dont use that option because I want to have some programs running down, you can try
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How do you do that MAKBET? Please share. Details please. :wink:
My OK and WIN button launch nothing anymore.
I have a TyTN and the OK and WIN button on the front side and on the external keyboard are like inactive.
How can I restore their default behavior ? where is it located in the registry ?
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My OK and WIN button launch nothing anymore.
I have a TyTN and the OK and WIN button on the front side and on the external keyboard are like inactive.
How can I restore their default behavior ? where is it located in the registry ?
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HAve you installed AEButtonPlus by any chance?
Yes, I install AEbutton. Is that the reason ?
I am going to uninstall it to try if I will have my OK and WIN button back.
I installed AEbutton for the copy/paste possibility that you can assign to a button (very useful), I will miss that, but I miss my 2 buttons even more.
I uninstalled AEButton, and made soft reset.
The OK and WIN buttons are still not working :-(
I have just installed ButtonMapper instead of AEButton, I now have the OK button working again !!
But the WIN button is still not working.
Anyone knows how I could get my WIN button working again ?
My OK button is fine, but my WIN button works intermittently. Sometimes it takes three or four presses to register and bring down the Start menu. In contrast, the WIN/OK combined button under the scroll wheel always works without fail. Annoying!
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I have just installed ButtonMapper instead of AEButton, I now have the OK button working again !!
But the WIN button is still not working.
Anyone knows how I could get my WIN button working again ?
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TBH, I'd uninstall button mapper, then run something like SKTools to clear all errant shortcuts and and notification queue entries. Then see where you go from there. Failing that, I'd recommend a hard reset.
bydandie, good idea I will have a look at sktools.
Do you know how does button handling work under the hood ?
what process is launched when I press a button ?
Good question....
I'm thinking a way to change my hard button links without installing a 3rd party software.
Is it possible modifying Registry?
Any other idea?
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bydandie, good idea I will have a look at sktools.
Do you know how does button handling work under the hood ?
what process is launched when I press a button ?
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No, but I do know that in the past when I tried AEButtonplus, I got the same issues as you, but with an uninstall it cured it. It may be worth reinstalling AEButtonplus and then ensure within the app the the Win and OK buttons have nothing assigned to them.
I'm not sure what it calls, ,the codes look different from what is used by things such as the Soft-Key mapper
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Good question....
I'm thinking a way to change my hard button links without installing a 3rd party software.
Is it possible modifying Registry?
Any other idea?
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Normally the hard buttons can be found under HKLM/Software/Microsoft/Shell/Keys
There you will find a series of subkeys beginning with 40C
Each subkey correspond to a hard button. For instance on my ppc 40C1 is the calendar hard button. So try to find the subkeys related to Ok and Win buttons and change the default value by the path of the app you want to launch. By default, the hard buttons applications links can be found under
/Windows/AppButtons
Cheers,
.Fred
ps.: I don't have an OK and WIN buttons on my ppc, so maybe its different for these two...
Thanks for the information dotFred, I have had a look on the registry and in the windows folder.
You are right the linking between the application and the hard button is made here, but only for the configurable buttons that you can configure in WM5 settings/button. Unfortunately the TyTN's OK and WIN button on the front and on the side of the PocketPC are not included :-(
I'd also like a way to configure the function of the start button, and the side OK/start button. I have installed Smallmenu and would like those buttons to open it instead of opening the standard start menu.
Any ideas?
I noticed on my 8525 that when i put some programs onto my memory card it deactivated these two buttons as well. You might try uninstalling some recent programs. (the program that caused problems with me was an expired trial version of WA2 that i moved onto my card.)
Does anyone know a registry hack yet for making it possible to remap ALL hardware buttons (or at least the OK button below the jog-wheel, cause this seems to be hard-coded to the Windows-menu) !?
Preferably a reg-hack that (re)enables this options in the regular \Settings\Buttons tab...
Another problem i want to fix (apart from the ROM being immature) is the fact that i have to go all the way into the Bluetooth-settings on the CommManager screen to connect my Jabra 620s in stereo/audio-mode, which is quite anoying and timeconsuming...
Some other strange thing is that when i want use Voicecommand (while playing audio) to either call someone or speak a command to WMP, this will only work when i use VC-assigned button on the device, and NOT with the answer/end button on my headset (wich should be working like the VC-button on device).
Anyone able to help me here ?
PS: i'm quite experienced WM user dating back to the Wyvern/PalmsizePC CE 2.12 devices...but i just can't seem to find my way around these huge registries in todays devices anymore... guess i'm getting old...
Anyone please ...?
I would like to know too. Style-wise, there are a lot of things HTC got wrong with the Trinity. In fact, I found the HTC Wizard better designed.
Damn thing needs IE, Messaging, Comm Manager buttons and a Volume slide but instead it has 2 OK buttons and a jog/dial which I rarely use.
Not to mention how buggy the release ROM is, what with huge delays between standby mode and MiniSD cards requiring re-insertion to work properly.
P.S. It would be nice to be able to change the functionality of the jog/dial wheel to volume control.
Yup - this is driving me nuts too.
I have 7 hardware buttons (inc the power button) on the trinity and I can only map 3 of them from Settings.
It's a real handicap (& Voice Command is conflicting with the voice dial button - or at least that's what I think is happening with my repeated failed installations).
Some wisdom from the forum would be almost as appreciated as a fix
Thanks,
M1
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Yup - this is driving me nuts too.
I have 7 hardware buttons (inc the power button) on the trinity and I can only map 3 of them from Settings.
It's a real handicap (& Voice Command is conflicting with the voice dial button - or at least that's what I think is happening with my repeated failed installations).
Some wisdom from the forum would be almost as appreciated as a fix
Thanks,
M1
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I don't have my Trinity yet, but have you tried some of the 3rd party Button remappers that are available? Magic Button etc.
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I would like to know too. Style-wise, there are a lot of things HTC got wrong with the Trinity. In fact, I found the HTC Wizard better designed.
Damn thing needs IE, Messaging, Comm Manager buttons and a Volume slide but instead it has 2 OK buttons and a jog/dial which I rarely use.
Not to mention how buggy the release ROM is, what with huge delays between standby mode and MiniSD cards requiring re-insertion to work properly.
P.S. It would be nice to be able to change the functionality of the jog/dial wheel to volume control.
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I got my Trinity last friday and am using a 2Gb MiniSD card and so far no problems with it. I feel no real delay when coming out of standby mode and no problem at all with the MiniSD card, maybe you got a early version of the ROM that contained this particular problems.
I do agree with you with the OK buttons, but i also understand the way they were designed, the button close to the jog wheel is to be used together with the jog wheel so that you can single handedly use the machine.
Lets see if someone suggests a good 3rd party tool to remap the buttons and then everybody is happy ;-)
VC with BT headset
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Some other strange thing is that when i want use Voicecommand (while playing audio) to either call someone or speak a command to WMP, this will only work when i use VC-assigned button on the device, and NOT with the answer/end button on my headset (wich should be working like the VC-button on device).
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I am able to get VC to work with call/answer button when using my Motorola headsets H300 and HS805. The phone needs to be out of standby mode ie screen needs to be on. I can't seem to get it to work with my R35 I.tech stereo wireless headset. I guess this could mean compatibility issues between headsets? Does the call/answer button work if you are not listening to music?
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I am able to get VC to work with call/answer button when using my Motorola headsets H300 and HS805. The phone needs to be out of standby mode ie screen needs to be on. I can't seem to get it to work with my R35 I.tech stereo wireless headset. I guess this could mean compatibility issues between headsets? Does the call/answer button work if you are not listening to music?
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Yes...you're right...it does work when the screen of my trinity is on. But offcourse when listening to music the screen is gonna be off...
The button on the headset does activate voicecommand when device is on (ie screen on) and no music is playing. But i'd rather have it understand my commands like "what track is this" while music plays (without having to take out the phone of my pocket).
As for the button-mapping: i'm familiar with the buttonmappers out there, but another application on my trinity is just not what i need... Is there really no way to get to this functionality through the registry ? I've searched quite a chunk of the registry but gave up; i just can't find it...
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...I do agree with you with the OK buttons, but i also understand the way they were designed, the button close to the jog wheel is to be used together with the jog wheel so that you can single handedly use the machine...
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Precisely: one handed operation... That's what i want, so i want the button next to the jogdial to be the ALT+TAB function (which is available through Spb PocketPlus)...so i want to be able to map this to whatever button i like, not just the 2 options HTC gave me... (i don't count press'n hold as an extra button).
I think it's quite ridiculous to have TWO buttons activating the startmenu, and have them hardcoded to that. What's the point in 2 buttons doing the same thing ?
Being able to change the 'Windows' button woukld also be a fine sollution...
Try AE Button Plus. Your solution will not lie in the registry.
V
vijay555 said:
Try AE Button Plus. Your solution will not lie in the registry.
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i tried it, it can't change OK and Start Menu hardware button !!! >.<
vijay555 said:
Try AE Button Plus. Your solution will not lie in the registry.
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i tried AE Button Plus, it can't change OK and Start Menu hardware buttons
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Try AE Button Plus. Your solution will not lie in the registry.
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Just tried, it works (AE Button Plus -> File -> Add button)
But i found a little bug, after i used it to swap Right Softkey and Start Menu Button, Start Menu Button works fine (changed to be Right Softkey) but for Right Softkey, no matter how i press it, start menu will not be shown !!!
Because, after i press Right Softkey, Start Menu Button event is triggered, but Start Menu Button is set to be Right Softkey by AE Button Plus, so at the end pressing Right Softkey will be regarded as pressing REAL Right Softkey rather than Start Menu.
The most strange thing is that such bug will not happen when pressing pressing Start Menu Button =.="
Any idea ? How to solve it ?
Thanks in advance
Speak to the author. He's on this forum and he's a great guy.
V
tommytao said:
Just tried, it works (AE Button Plus -> File -> Add button)
But i found a little bug, after i used it to swap Right Softkey and Start Menu Button, Start Menu Button works fine (changed to be Right Softkey) but for Right Softkey, no matter how i press it, start menu will not be shown !!!
Because, after i press Right Softkey, Start Menu Button event is triggered, but Start Menu Button is set to be Right Softkey by AE Button Plus, so at the end pressing Right Softkey will be regarded as pressing REAL Right Softkey rather than Start Menu.
The most strange thing is that such bug will not happen when pressing pressing Start Menu Button =.="
Any idea ? How to solve it ?
Thanks in advance
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And pressing Camera button, the Start Menu Button event will be triggered. it seems that there're some bugs in "Add button" functions of AE Button Plus
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Speak to the author. He's on this forum and he's a great guy.
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OK OK !!! Let me find him
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[...] It seems that there're some bugs in "Add button" functions of AE Button Plus
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So it seems AE Button Plus is not the THE perfect tool for that, anyone tried another soft ?
Hi guys,
I'm too looking for a way to remap the startmenu-button for e.g. starting an application. No 3rd party software I tried so far is able to do so...
Any suggestion how to reassign the startmenue button to call a specific application?
Cheers
Punga
AEButton Plus maps all but the standby button...
... on my Wizard. Well, it doesn't touch the soft-reset, the camera gets funky when I try to map it, and I can't seem to move the vibrate function off the hold "Comm Manger" Key. Given I've got 50 different hardware button options, (or 37 added if I leave all the default functioning in place) with this nifty shareware (basically fully functional if you want to use it free forever), who cares about the dumb camera button (not in the count above).
My biggest problem is remebering where I mapped it all. My second is making decisions about how to map them.... :|| (that's a repeat sign in music-talk)
You gotta try it. I'd be curious to find out how it works on your hardware.
http://ae.inc.ru/aebplus.php
Accidentally screwed over some files >.>
I got same problem. I assign task manager to x-panel manager button, unfortunately it change camera button to run task manager too. After removing assignment camera button not working.
AEButton assign camera button together with panel button, recognizing them as one (ctr key).
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I got same problem. I assign task manager to x-panel manager button, unfortunately it change camera button to run task manager too. After removing assignment camera button not working.
AEButton assign camera button together with panel button, recognizing them as one (ctr key).
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Use the OK key instead and assign a long press for task manager and a short press for ok key.
It works flawlessly
HOW do you assign a button? You need a program for that? If so, is there a way to assign the voice command to a button?
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HOW do you assign a button? You need a program for that?
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I'm using aebutton plus, it has also an handy integrated task manager (I assigned it to long press OK button)
If so, is there a way to assign the voice command to a button?
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Maybe, but I cant help a lot here, VC is not available in Italian, and I feel a bit stupid talking with a machine in English
So, I never used it.
Well, you could use German or French to talk to your phone too
I will give this program a try. And report back. By the way, what are you using this for? And if one assigns only 1 button, will the rest be changed too, or only that one. Don't want any more trouble with the X2.... if I can avoid it
By the way, what are you using this for?
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I use (and used it for years) it mainly to remap the volume rocker as a "fake jog dial" (very handy to read ebooks) and because the AEBP task manager is quickest task manager to use when you have to quick swich from an app to another or to kill a stuck application w/o messing with the touch screen.