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Hi folks
Been playing with my new O2 XDA II exec toy for a couple of days now and came across this forum.
I have a question;
I can connect fine with wireless, but if I either switch off wireless, or start Opera/Internet Explorer without any internet connection, the phone automatically tries to dial the GPRS connection number. This is annoying and I'd want the phone to do nothing or give an error if there is no internet connecttion available. How do I change this in the settings?
The only way to stop the OS from dialing a gprs or dial-up connection is to have none of them configured in the connection settings. Sometimes you even need to hard-reset to get rid of them as your device still 'remembers' the settings & connects the gprs while you have deleted all connections.
Regards, M
Can you untick the remember username and password box? Thats what I have done, and if it does try to connect it wond go past that.
Eeeeh,
my gprs ain't using user/password. R u referring dial-up?
Cheers, M
I just make a spoof GPRS connection called VJSpoof, with no details in it.
Select this one when you want to disable GPRS, or go back to the normal one went you want to use GPRS. I use this when reading news on NewsReader offline, because otherwise it tries to connect up to download pictures.
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oltp said:
Eeeeh,
my gprs ain't using user/password. R u referring dial-up?
Cheers, M
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On my GPRS I have a username and password box, although nothing needs to be entered in it. I make sure the box which says Always Remember These Details is unticked.
haha vijay... I like your thinking... works a treat, just remember to manually select them, and not have it autopick tries to dial out, then error
I just bought the new T-Mobile (USA) MDA a couple days ago, a version of the HTC Wizard.
I have been able to connect with GPRS/EDGE, and seem to be getting EDGE speed, which is nice (my first EDGE phone).
However, no such luck with Wi-fi.
At my house, I can easily connect, at all times, with a few different wi-fi networks, with my wi-fi enabled laptop, and with my older PPC--an IPAQ 2210, with Spectec SDIO Wi-Fi card, can browse the web via Wi-Fi, etc.
The MDA does connect to Wi-FI, appears to be connected to it. (After turning it on in Connection Manager, of course.) But I cannot access any web sites with it. On trying to do so with PIE, I always get the error message:
"The page cannot be displayed or downloaded because the connection was lost, Check the connection and try again later."
I have not once been able to access one web site via Wi-Fi, with the MDA.
Can anyone help with this?
Thank you.
I ahve the same problem and have not figured out how to solve this...
Can anyone help us?
same problem here, also with t-mobile as provider. can it be a problem related to t-mobile???
me said:
I just bought the new T-Mobile (USA) MDA a couple days ago, a version of the HTC Wizard.
I have been able to connect with GPRS/EDGE, and seem to be getting EDGE speed, which is nice (my first EDGE phone).
However, no such luck with Wi-fi.
At my house, I can easily connect, at all times, with a few different wi-fi networks, with my wi-fi enabled laptop, and with my older PPC--an IPAQ 2210, with Spectec SDIO Wi-Fi card, can browse the web via Wi-Fi, etc.
The MDA does connect to Wi-FI, appears to be connected to it. (After turning it on in Connection Manager, of course.) But I cannot access any web sites with it. On trying to do so with PIE, I always get the error message:
"The page cannot be displayed or downloaded because the connection was lost, Check the connection and try again later."
I have not once been able to access one web site via Wi-Fi, with the MDA.
Can anyone help with this?
Thank you.
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I have exactly the same problem
I guess you could try going under "Settings" "Connections" "Network Card" and make sure your network card is set to connect to "The Internet"
Select your wireless card and then make sure the drop down says "The Internet" and hit ok.
Also, make sure your GPRS Connection settings aren't setup to use T-Mobile's proxy. When your gprs is setup to use a proxy for web browsing, PIE will attempt to use the proxy with any connection. And by proxy, I'm not talking about an APN or anything.
Are you running security on your router? If so try shutting it off to test or try to connect to someone elses WiFi network to test.
wagz said:
I guess you could try going under "Settings" "Connections" "Network Card" and make sure your network card is set to connect to "The Internet"
Select your wireless card and then make sure the drop down says "The Internet" and hit ok.
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I spoke with a TMob customer service rep about this a couple weeks ago, and this is basically what he told me to do. A T-Mobile HotSpot (Starbucks, etc) should work without making any changes. But if you want to use your own WiFi connection, you have to do the following:
Start Menu -> Settings -> Connections Tab -> Connections Icon
Select Advanced Tab -> Select Networks
Change first dropdown to "My Work Network".
Click OK, OK.
Then when you want to roam with GPRS/EDGE again, you have to change it back to "T-Mobile GPRS".
Very annoying to say the least. If anyone knows a better way to do this, I'd love to hear about it.
This works for me:
Start Menu -> Settings -> Connections Tab -> Connections Icon
Select Advanced Tab -> Select Networks
Change the first dropdown to My Work Network
Change the second dropdown to T-Mobile GPRS
Make sure My Work Network is set to connect to the internet, but has NO proxy settings.
Make sure T-Mobile GRPS is set to connect to the internet, but HAS proxy settings.
Magic!
frycow, you rock!!
That worked perfectly!! I hated that I had to keep switching networks whenever I wanted to go online via GPRS or wifi!!
Thanks!!!
frycow,
wow. that sounds great. but I can't get it working. could you take a couple minutes to walk me (and I'm sure others too) through your exact settings? especially the proxy settings.
thanks!
frycow is a freakin champ....that did the trick!! I've been WAITING to get this working!!
AHHHH, AND IT FINALLY GOT MY POCKET MSN TO START WORKING TOO!!!! Still doesn't work on GPRS, but it certainly works on Wi-Fi!! I suppose the last thing would be to get it working on both!! regardless, this is SWEET!!
I can´t get it working :evil:
When I Change the first dropdown to My Work Network and after that tryn to sync without having wifi enabled, the device does not connect with GPRS..., solutions...
frycow, hazchem, djswivel:
Could one of you help out Paltkugen and I? Both of us can't get it working. If you could let us know the specific settings, including the proxy settings, I would really appreciate it. Its so frustrating to know it works for some people, but not being able to get it going.
Thanks!
I did EXACTLY what fry posted....follow this carefully
Start Menu -> Settings -> Connections Tab -> Connections Icon
Select Advanced Tab -> Select Networks
Change the first dropdown to My Work Network
Change the second dropdown to T-Mobile GPRS
Click Edit on the My Work Network dropdown -> Proxy Settings Tab
Check the first box (This network connects to the internet), but NOT the second (This network uses a proxy server to connect to the internet)
Now do the same for the T-Mobile GRPS settins in the edit menu, only check both boxes this time. Then type in 216.155.165.50 as the proxy server. From there you should be good.
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I did EXACTLY what fry posted....follow this carefully
Start Menu -> Settings -> Connections Tab -> Connections Icon
Select Advanced Tab -> Select Networks
Change the first dropdown to My Work Network
Change the second dropdown to T-Mobile GPRS
Click Edit on the My Work Network dropdown -> Proxy Settings Tab
Check the first box (This network connects to the internet), but NOT the second (This network uses a proxy server to connect to the internet)
Now do the same for the T-Mobile GRPS settins in the edit menu, only check both boxes this time. Then type in 216.155.165.50 as the proxy server. From there you should be good.
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That is exactly what I did too. Just tried it again and I can't use GPRS to surf. I have Wifi turned off. GPRS is not connected. I open PIE and go to some URL (google.com). GPRS starts connecting and successfully connects to T-Mobile GPRS.
Then, for about 30-60 seconds, the status bar says "Locating". Then an alert pops up that says "The page cannot be displayed or downloaded because the connection was lost. Check the connection and try again later."
Next, I turn on WiFi. It conects to my local WiFi network. It is still connected to T-Mobile GPRS too. I go back to PIE. As soon as I try to goto a URL, the GPRS connection drops, and again it says "Locating..." for a while. Then the same alert pops up again.
So now that GPRS isn't connected and just WiFi, I try going to the URL again. Same results.
Next I try turning off WiFi. Now there are no connections. I restart WiFi and there is just a WiFi connection. Same results in PIE.
I thought maybe the proxy is the problem, so I turned off the proxy in GPRS. When I do this, the checkbox "This network connects to the internet" won't stay checked. Even if I check it and click ok, when I go back it is unchecked. And when I did this, I couldn't even connect with GPRS. And with WiFi on, it would connect to Wifi, but going to a page would immediately pop up an alert that says "Cannot Connect with current connection settings. To change you connection settings, tap Settings."
I added the proxy back in and then tried changing the GPRS access point name from wap.voicestream.com to internet2.voicestream.com and internet3.voicestream.com. internet2 wouldn't even make a connection, but internet3 did. however, i still couldn't locate pages in PIE. So I changed it back to wap. I think my unlimited GPRS plan is configured the VPN way, so I remember having to use internet2 or internet3 in the past.
Could the proxy server not be working right for me? Is it possible that I cannot locate the proxy because I'm configured in a non-standard way (with a different access point - internet3) than most?
I think I'll call tmo and see if I can get changed to the regular AP (wap). I'm not using VPN stuff right now anyway. If anyone has other ideas, please let me know.
Thanks again!
I think i have a work around. but involes changing it back and forth when switching btwn wifi and gprs..
created two connections.
one with proxy and one without.
im only able to surf gprs with proxy.
when connecting via GPRS set both networks to connect to PROXY.
when using WiFi, set both networks to connect using NOPROXY.
that should work. at least it worked for me. tried only 2 pages and it loaded for both. GPRS used myvoicestream and wifi google.
yowzator said:
I have Wifi turned off. GPRS is not connected. I open PIE and go to some URL (google.com). GPRS starts connecting and successfully connects to T-Mobile GPRS.
Then, for about 30-60 seconds, the status bar says "Locating". Then an alert pops up that says "The page cannot be displayed or downloaded because the connection was lost. Check the connection and try again later."
Next, I turn on WiFi. It conects to my local WiFi network. It is still connected to T-Mobile GPRS too. I go back to PIE. As soon as I try to goto a URL, the GPRS connection drops, and again it says "Locating..." for a while. Then the same alert pops up again.
So now that GPRS isn't connected and just WiFi, I try going to the URL again. Same results.
Next I try turning off WiFi. Now there are no connections. I restart WiFi and there is just a WiFi connection. Same results in PIE.
I thought maybe the proxy is the problem, so I turned off the proxy in GPRS. When I do this, the checkbox "This network connects to the internet" won't stay checked. Even if I check it and click ok, when I go back it is unchecked. And when I did this, I couldn't even connect with GPRS. And with WiFi on, it would connect to Wifi, but going to a page would immediately pop up an alert that says "Cannot Connect with current connection settings. To change you connection settings, tap Settings."
I added the proxy back in and then tried changing the GPRS access point name from wap.voicestream.com to internet2.voicestream.com and internet3.voicestream.com. internet2 wouldn't even make a connection, but internet3 did. however, i still couldn't locate pages in PIE. So I changed it back to wap. I think my unlimited GPRS plan is configured the VPN way, so I remember having to use internet2 or internet3 in the past.
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Earlier today I had been trying to get VM Net Browser or Resco File Explorer to work, and they *were* working, albeit very sporadically. Sometimes I could see whole windows network complete with shared files and directories, other times I could browse to my computer and it wouldn't show anything as being shared. Looking for a solution, i found this thread.
I followed the recommendations of the previous posts and got exactly the same results as yowzator, including the weird thing with the "This network connects to the internet" checkbox unchecking. My GPRS access point is also named wap.voicestream.com - not sure if that matters.
However, I know that I was having at least partial wi-fi success before trying this fix or I wouldn't be able to have seen my home network. So I gave up on this fix and put everything back to the default - GPRS for programs that automatically connect to the internet, no proxy, and My Work Network for programs that automatically connect toa private network, with "This network connects to the internet" unchecked because it's impossible to check it and expect it to stay checked.
I tried surfing around to a few pages with wifi only (connections shows me connected to my network, I turned off the phone icon in the comm settings, and tapping on the connectivity icon on the taskbar didn't have GPRS listed) and amazingly, some of them worked - though the "locating" process seemed to take a while, they sometimes seemed to load faster than with GPRS (especially if I let my MDA go to sleep and then turn it back on again).
And then they don't work again, without me doing anything. So I don't think the fix we've been trying is a true fix to the problem - if it was then then pages would *never* load with the proxy disabled. Right?
I've been wondering if the "modem" tab under My Work Network is supposed to be blank . . . even if it's using wifi it seems like a poor UI design to not have a checkbox or something saying "this connection is for wifi and not dialup".
I am using the 2.17 ROM update. My wireless router is a D-link DI-624 extreme g. I'm using WEP encryption.
I am crying . . . tears . . . of confusion.
SOLUTION!?
This works for me (suggested in another thread):
1. Add the following to the registry:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\COMM\TIACXWLN1\PARMS:
DWORD dot11SupportedRateMaskG=8
(Note that there is already a key in the registry called "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\COMM\TIACXWLN1\PARMS: DWORD dot11SupportedRateMask=1" - you should leave this alone)
2. Do a soft reset.
3. Go to your wi-fi settings -> Power Mode tab -> Best Performance (without this step it didn't work for me)
4. Turn on wi-fi and connect to anything in internet explorer. It should seem blazing fast compared to GPRS.
Note that this assumes you haven't done any of the fixes in this thread. That is to say, leave it with GPRS for programs that automatically connect to the internet (with no proxy), and My Work Network for programs that automatically connect to a private network, with "This network connects to the internet" unchecked because it's impossible to check it and expect it to stay checked.
So far (for a few minutes anyway) this is working for me! Even Resco File Explorer seems to mostly work - I can map my PC's shared folders and see my stuff reliably, as far as I can tell. VM Net Browser is still wonky though.
The thread this solution comes from is http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=38898&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc
Hi,
tried that solution
(I have a thread below)
still falls over on "locate".
I have no home network so I have never got anything working - connects fine on a public hotspot, but as I say, fails on locate.
I've had enough - may either phone T-mobile pay CS - something I really don't want to do out of principle - or just send teh phone back.
any new info on this? can seem to get it to work.
i have configures it many ways as suggested above. only time i was able to browse on wifi was with no proxie was set up. i connect through another network, (the mda automatically hooks you up to all avalible networks) but that only lasted a few minutes.
is there even a chance i could someone at tmobile even help me??? anyone here call them and get got service/help with getting it to work?
thanks
skot
Hi,
I have had a search to see if this has been covered before but maybe I am using the wrong query.
I have an O2 Exec with the latest O2 Rom, and now when I do an email send and receive, the GPRS connection stays up. Whereas I could have sworn in the earlier ROM it disconnected after the send/receive.
I spoke to O2 and they assured me that it is supposed to do that, and since I only get charged for actaul data transfer, I can sit connected to GPRS all day for free (is this correct).
Now, my main question is. Say GPRS is up and connected, and I turn on WIFI or plug into my PC using the charger/sync cable and then do a send and receive. Will the Exec use these free connections or still route data over the GPRS?
I did a test and it looked as though when I did this, the GPRS connection was shut down, as after a send/receive and then disable WIFI, the connection setting showed a large U and not the connected icon.
I am now sitting with a GPRS connection active, email is set to manual and I have Pocket Weather set to 'Auto update on connection' and 'Auto update on Active Sync', but 'Use connection manager' is disabled as is 'Force a connect when not available'.
Should this mean that no data is used at all and that I can sit connected at no cost.
Sorry for the long rambling post, but I am a complete newbie to all this GPRS pda thing.
regards,
/Mad
related question - how to stop gprs connecting automatically
My wifi router at home is dodgy and sometimes the signal drops - this means my exec switches over automatically to GPRS (I'm not in a 3G area) and starts whacking up a big data bill before I realise. Is there anyway of getting it to ask me if I want to connect to GPRS - rather than it just telling me thats what its doing? Can't turn the phone off cos I still need to receive calls.
I did think of just scarmbling my connection settings, but now I've upgraded to the latest O2 rom the connections settings page does not show any existing connections! (I also can't get TomTom to run at all now but I guess I'll work through that one :-( )
Thanks,
John
I believe this is what you are looking for. Y
ou can set which connections programs use for thier internet access in Settings -> Connections -> Connections -> Advanced, Select Networks.
Choosing My Work Network or My ISP should stop programs sucking up your money.
Thanks PReDiToR I've tried that but it then gives me a 'cannot connect' popup instead of using the wifi - it seems as if there has to be an accessible gprs connection for it to ignore before it will try wifi :-o
What does everyone else do? Maybe you're all rich or the company pays for your data?
Thanks
Any luck yet with the GPRS / WiFi issue?? I have got the sam
webbyfoot said:
Thanks PReDiToR I've tried that but it then gives me a 'cannot connect' popup instead of using the wifi - it seems as if there has to be an accessible gprs connection for it to ignore before it will try wifi :-o
What does everyone else do? Maybe you're all rich or the company pays for your data?
Thanks
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Any luck yet with the GPRS / WiFi issue?? I have got the same problem
Derrr...
EDIT: Hey I've just read what I've written below and its exavctly what Preditor suggested - funny didn't work when I tried ........ I guess it was because I was trying 'My ISP' without gprs settings - which complained - whereas 'My Work Network' without gprs settings allows the wifi to connect ... :?
I've now got a workaround for this - means going through the menus every time I DO want GPRS data - but thats rare till I get a better contract which will have to wait till my 12 months with O2 is up in November.. web'n'walk sounds good - unlimited gprs :-o - (could T-Mobile really tell when I was using my XDa as a modem for my laptop - which is forbidden in the terms of this contarct - and when I was just usng data for its own programs - which is allowed ??)
Anyway what I do is settings>connections>advanced>Select Networks> choose My Work Network for programs connecting to the internet. I have no gprs settings in My Work Network but it connects to wifi no problem.
So when I forget and I'm out of wifi range I get an error that it can't connect, so change the setting back to 'MY ISP' and GPRS kicks in.
A Today Screen shortcut to the Network Management screen would help - but I'm almost always using wifi so I haven't bothered.
John
Is there a way to disable or remove GPRS capability altogether? I don't have unlimited data and only wish to use wifi for inet access, but it keeps trying to connect to Cingular GPRS even though I removed it from the ISP settings completely.. Any ideas?
bompus said:
Is there a way to disable or remove GPRS capability altogether? I don't have unlimited data and only wish to use wifi for inet access, but it keeps trying to connect to Cingular GPRS even though I removed it from the ISP settings completely.. Any ideas?
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Goto
>Start >Settings >Connections > Network Cards > Network Adapters
In the "My Network card connects to:" prompt, select the value "Work" instead of "The Internet".
Did that, and if I go into IE and try to navigate to a page, it still says "Connecting to Cingular GPRS" and then connects to it... Any more ideas? It "might" be an IE-only problem since Agile Messenger tells me it can't connect when there is no connection, but IE is autoconnecting to GPRS no matter what settings I choose.
Call cingular tell them you want GPRS Data blocked, when they do it, your phone will show an x next to the signal strength indicator (where the GPRS/EDGE icon lives)
That sounds like the best idea so far... Anyone else got a better idea?
mrBizzy said:
bompus said:
Is there a way to disable or remove GPRS capability altogether? I don't have unlimited data and only wish to use wifi for inet access, but it keeps trying to connect to Cingular GPRS even though I removed it from the ISP settings completely.. Any ideas?
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Goto
>Start >Settings >Connections > Network Cards > Network Adapters
In the "My Network card connects to:" prompt, select the value "Work" instead of "The Internet".
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Also... after you do the above, goto >Start >Settings >Connections; and click on the "Connections" icon then click on the "Advanced" tab then click on "Select Networks" and choose "My Work Network" for both dropdown box. This should work.
Did all that.. IE still trying to connect to Cingular GPRS.. I tried to completely remove it from everything and somehow it still wants to connect if no connection exists already.. weird...
bompus said:
Did all that.. IE still trying to connect to Cingular GPRS.. I tried to completely remove it from everything and somehow it still wants to connect if no connection exists already.. weird...
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Thas wierd. It works on mine.. If no connection exists, IE will try to conenct to GPRS but it will fail on mine. It will only work when I am conencted to WiFi. Which ROM version do you have? I have 2.24.10.1 WWE.
if u disable this option can u still send MMS?
2.25 cingular as on the ftp under ROM_Other or whatever...
jacob-mda said:
if u disable this option can u still send MMS?
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No, MMS will only work via GPRS...
i just realized...you can call ure cellphone pro...and say u want a block on internet and u wont be able to connect lol
dropknowledge said:
i just realized...you can call ure cellphone pro...and say u want a block on internet and u wont be able to connect lol
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Is there any other way to do this??? I've been having the same problem with this new ROM. No matter what i do (select "My Work Network", fiddle with the GPRS settings), it ALWAYS wants to connect to the GPRS.
I'm having the EXACT same problem as the guy who started this post.
Thanks!
OK.. Either call the cell company and tell them to remove internet capabiltiy OR you can try REMOVING your "media Net" connection from your connections. It's in the place where you select between My ISP, Work, Media Net... Just go into Media Net and click on remove/delete or whatever and see if that works for ya.
bompus said:
OK.. Either call the cell company and tell them to remove internet capabiltiy OR you can try REMOVING your "media Net" connection from your connections. It's in the place where you select between My ISP, Work, Media Net... Just go into Media Net and click on remove/delete or whatever and see if that works for ya.
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it doesn't work, no matter what i do, it tries to connect via GPRS, and then it tries to dial a modem # starting with +1415XXXXXXX. its weird. i used to be able to just delete the ISP key, but not anymore. im running 2.24 Summiter ROM.
you can always create a new connection in connections and leave it blank, then it errors with a unable to connect message, and you can always switch it back if you want the access in the future
Any idea as to how you can switch off gprs automatically after each time checking your pop email??
bompus said:
Is there a way to disable or remove GPRS capability altogether? I don't have unlimited data and only wish to use wifi for inet access, but it keeps trying to connect to Cingular GPRS even though I removed it from the ISP settings completely.. Any ideas?
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Just curious,...why do you have this phone?
I have a Cingular 8125 (WIZA100) that I use about 50% of the time in areas that have no coverage. But, in those locations I do have access to many WiFi hotspots.
I too would like to disable GPRS search (my phone seems to spend much of its time trying to connect to the non-existent network.) Obviously calling the carrier does not help in this situation.
I assume there is a registry hack (or some such) to kill it. Has anyone found anything on the phone that will kill GPRS but keep WiFi Running?
Txs
I have not TRIED it but I would suggest trying out Opera as it probably is not integrated with GPRS as much as IE is. Just a hunch I am going to try as well.
my cellphone load gets suck out most of the time because it connects to the internet on its own, is there a setting/program that prompts me first if i want to connect to gprs...
many thanks
Hi,
Your phone is most likely trying to connect to check your email. To prevent this happening, from your Inbox select Menu/Tools/Options. Click on your email account, press Next till you reach page 4 then Options. De-Select the box which says 'Connect and check for messages every:'
Hope this helps.
GPRS connection
I have a similar problem using exchange push email. I have established an Internet connection with WLan and checked that I can access my webmail (which is my Exchange mail). Despite this to update email the phone automatically connects GPRS - this is really annoying. I read once that this is set in the registry when one installs the operator customisations. Can anyone tell me how to change this?
this tool
http://www.gb-soft.cz/xdaII/
can be set to auto disconnect gprs after x seconds/minuts
GB Soft Tweak
Thanks for the suggestion.
I tried this and it doesnt seem to fix the problem. Although I am not excactly clear on the settings.
I tried the Turn Off GPRS option with a 5 min setting, trued Search GPRS [G] on start radio and Search [G] on start GPRS connection.
With regards
Jeff