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GPRS connections out of control?

I am using SPB's GPRS traffic counter and have noticed that without my doing anything, my Jam will download around 100k of data every day (around £0.25 on Vodafone). I can just about survive the financial shock ;-) but I am more worried to know how control connections in general.
Does anyone know what programs on the Jam keep a GPRS connection alive? (I am not using MS Messenger, nor do I have either MS Explorer, the e-mail application or Activesync runnig in the background).
cheers.

I see that you have checked the usual suspects how about MMS this uses GPRS as well maybe you received some? The application you mention (SPB GPRS Monitor) does not tell you which application uses GPRS?

unfortunately is not the mms client - I stopped its installation after a hard reset.
I even go as far as killing off the messaging app and internet explorer with the memory control panel to make sure they don't accidentally run in the background.
my guess is a leaky tcp/ip stack, but i'm still looking for ways of controlling outgoing packets...

cseilern said:
unfortunately is not the mms client - I stopped its installation after a hard reset.
I even go as far as killing off the messaging app and internet explorer with the memory control panel to make sure they don't accidentally run in the background.
my guess is a leaky tcp/ip stack, but i'm still looking for ways of controlling outgoing packets...
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I too have the same Issue. Orange billed me for 2.5MB of data. I aint used the darn thing for GPRS.

Alternetives for SPB GPRS Monitor !?
Does anyone have any alternetives for SPB GPRS Monitor. This program makes the OS on my i-mate JAM very unstabele. So I had to remove this program.
I hope someone can help me pointing to a good alternetive app ! I also couldn't find an application like a SMS counter. Any idea's ?
Thanks for your help and kind regards,
R.

I NEVER leave GPRS connected. I always 're-connect and cancel' to drop my connection after getting email headers ....
However....
one day, in one session at 12noon I racked up £17 with 02. They can not explain it and I was sitting at my desk at work with the XDA docked at the time!!! (with internet pass through if needed!)
This is worse than premium rate calls (which are closely monitored) ... all 02 can say is that at 12noon I downloaded over 7mb !! end of story! no more details. I don't know how it is possible unless it connected to their stupid movie portal and downloaded a massive trailer on it's own? - which I would of noticed!
Well I have a complaint in with them. Just think how many people could get stung (and I know what i'm doing!)
I'm now going to try the above mentioned GPRS counter, but has anyone tried this one ? .... http://www.all-locations.com/ GPRS Traffic Counter v3.2
Rich

cseilern
Do you have a programme such as SPB Pocket Weather.. or any of those 'weather related' today pluggins?... as they connect via GPRS to download latest weather etc..
Hope you find the mischievous programme!
Gero

tmobile us tzones

got it!! thanks

Yes, yes, yes, and yes.
These can all be answered yourself with a search as well; with 48 posts, one would think it was known already.

FrEsHaZzBuRu said:
Yes, yes, yes, and yes.
These can all be answered yourself with a search as well; with 48 posts, one would think it was known already.
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HI.THNX MUCH

I forgot to mention:
The only difference is that after every ~1MB of content downloaded, the connection restarts. When browsing web pages, it is not noticable, however, when streaming audio it will re buffer every 1MB (which for 32kbps, come out to about every 7 mins).

I've read about the tzones hack and it seems like its a pain. I mean I'm all for saving money and $5.99 compared to $29.99 is a big difference, but is it really worth it?

The 'T-Zones' hack (actually the feature is now called 'TMobileWeb') works great if you take into the lmitation of the Proxy server port restrictions and the 900k limit on a continuous stream of data.
If you just need to browse the web it works great. If you are into streaming audio, then it can be a pain. At around 900k I get an error that I have to disconnect and reconnect to overcome. I can't use my favorite IM program because it does not support a proxy.
Is it worth the hassle? I guess it really depends on your needs.

Just as long as the program that is being used has a proxy setting option, then it will work for Tzones. I had no difficulties getting Tzones to work and the only complaint that i have is with streaming audio (which i rarely do since i bought the 2GB miniSD card). When streaming audio, it is not needed to reconnect the whole edge connection, but only re buffering the song is needed, then it'll play for another 7 minutes or however long 900KB of data takes to stream. IMO, the huge savings of $24 per month is golden, there is not anything really different besides not having access to hotspots.

so I can use the hacked version of AIM and internet explorer at the same time, and also have an exchange server set up without changing the proxy?

sekks said:
so I can use the hacked version of AIM and internet explorer at the same time,
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Definitely. I'm using the hacked AIM and I am able to use PIE at the same time.
sekks said:
and also have an exchange server set up without changing the proxy?
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Not too sure about this one, i'm using a POP account and having my phone send and receive every 15mins to check for mail, which then downloads and shows in my inbox (labeled Comcast on my device). Search around for the exchange server question, I read it somewhere in a thread with a tzones topic but i wasn't too interested in it so i skimmed through it.

FrEsHaZzBuRu said:
Just as long as the program that is being used has a proxy setting option, then it will work for Tzones. I had no difficulties getting Tzones to work and the only complaint that i have is with streaming audio (which i rarely do since i bought the 2GB miniSD card). When streaming audio, it is not needed to reconnect the whole edge connection, but only re buffering the song is needed, then it'll play for another 7 minutes or however long 900KB of data takes to stream. IMO, the huge savings of $24 per month is golden, there is not anything really different besides not having access to hotspots.
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What I am saying though is that mine stops at 900k and gives an error that the server is not responding or is busy. I then have to re-establish my stream to continue.
I wish mine would simply buffer.....consider yourself lucky. It seems that some people don't suffer the same limitations as others. It varies by area it would seem.

what is the t-zone hack? thanks

I got it and it's running great
But I can't log into my messenger .....
help , please

Where are the settings I have not seen them on the topic. The one I use is
Proxy Settings
[email protected]
and the waps are
wap.voicestream.com
Is this is what everyone is using? if not please post the other hack.

yea post the hacks please, thanks

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TELL ME IF YOU GOT IT

using either getmorespeed.voicestream.com or the 216.165.... setting are getting me an 'access denied' lately. anybody else experiences this?

SwerveAM said:
using either getmorespeed.voicestream.com or the 216.165.... setting are getting me an 'access denied' lately. anybody else experiences this?
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Damm it man either I jinxed myself or you did lol Access denied as well

yeah, i think t-mobile is catching on to this workaround. The funny thing about this is that I am able to access AIM, check my mail, and do other things, except browse the internet with any web browser. T-Mobile is probably putting restrictions into url searches. I'm not exactly sure how this whole thingamajiggy works, but i guess they're blocking web browsing, and want us to use T-Mobile Data, for 29.99.
that really sucks, i've only had the mda for about 2 1/2 months.

Still working great for me. I doubt that they will do away with the proxy server because even the most basic phone now days support full HTML browsing. They would also have to introduce some intermediate feature (between the $6.00 Tmobileweb and $20.00 balackberry) to compete with everyone else if they did.

I am trying to get my internet apps to run using this proxy setting but the only thing that works is the internet explorer. I have the network management pointing to my tmobile data setting that containes the proxy. Any one have a solution for this?

T-Mobile Internet, Working Apps (IM)?

OK so I am new here, but I am not new to mobile devices at all. In fact I was a Mobility Admin in different forums. So please don't get mad at me for posting here. I have some questions. PLEASE don't play the FLAME the noob game. I swear that I searched far and Wide for my answers but have failed to find them.
So my question: is there anyway to tweak the T-Mobile T-zones Internet?
I can:
Connect to the internet
Download Files
Stream Music (orb)
Stream Video (badly[orb])
Use Google Maps
I can't:
Connect To IM servers, I have tried all of the programs. OZ for T-Mo is the only one that works, but it's horrible.
No YouTube, I can live without this but I hope to get it working.
MIDP can't connect.
Basicly nothing, that doesn't connect from, IE works.
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I have played with the Proxy settings and nothing. I know that with my Treo 650 I could connect through VeriChat, but I can't connect on WM6.
Is there a program out there that can help me fix this?
Again I'm sorry if this is a repost, or an overkill of something, but I want to get this stuff working.
Thanks
-CD85233

I do not have an obvious solution but have also seen plenty of similar comments here from others - not just with T-Mobile either. I am using T-Mobile in the UK and have none of your problems.
I obviously had the original T-Mobile Vario II build (WM5) but now have the Black MAJIK build with WM6 and all has been fine with both. Some people directly accuse T-Mobile of blocking their IM, but I have no issue with it - albeit I use it rarely. Of course it "may" be that T-mobile are indeed blocking some services to 'offenders' (IM is not allowed) but I wonder if their system is that capable.
Obvious questions for you are: what OS are you using? Have you changed ANY comms settings from the original T-Mobile build? Have you tried a hard reset to restore original settings (including the all important T-Mobile extended ROM)?
If you still have the original OS ROM build running then you might try installing the configuration .cab files that are stored on the Extended ROM separately - some apply directly to such device settings. Access to that Extended ROM on the WM5 build is easy and you just need an application such as "HTweakC 2.0" (available here). Of course, and as ever, start with backing-up your device - but you will know that.
I hope this helps.

I have VSWL Rom.
I have setup the internet (GPRS) settins like they are suppose to be.
I believe that it is a fact that T-Mo has blocked ports, and has only left http smtp and pop3 open. So my dilema is why did verichat connect on my Treo 650 and not on my MDA or my 8525.

First we need to know if you are in tmobile usa, uk...????
if you are in tmo usa then you can't
if you have the proxies 216.155.165.50:8080 the most you can use is PIE (pocket internet explorer)
the best thing is to get the blackberry $20 dollar add-on plan and just setup without proxys. wap.voicestream.com and you have full internet access.

I am in the USA, and I have the T-zona 5.99 plan.
I am less than reluctant to close my mind for this not to work, since google maps works. and, as I said, on my Treo 650 using verichat worked perfectly.
I don't know what the difference in the way the Treo 650 connected and the way my 8525 connects.
Perhaps the programs that can connect are ones that ones that connect through port 80 and are proxied to 8080.
I am so lost on this topic though.
too many contractidicting points.
such as streamining works on win but not on palm
IM worked on Palm but on Win.

Wizard using Wifi

Hey,
I have a G4 Wizard, Model Wiza100(With a Camera). I'm using a generic MDA Windows Mobile v6 rom. I recently bought this phone off a friend, mine broke and I didn't want to pay 100s for a rather crappy go phone. I do not have the Data Plan for AT&T and was wondering if there was a way to configure my wizard to NEVER automatically connect to the internet. I'd also like to find a way to have it be able to browse while connected to wifi. Thanks guys, -Strife

Bumb. Any help guys?

Go into start, settings, connections, tap manage existing connections, general tab and tap delete settings. I think this should remove internet connections settings and you wont be able to connect.
Your phone shouldn't connect to gprs anyway unless you open your web browser or other app (like weather program) without being connected to wifi

Sweet, thanks man. I never really need to use the internet on my phone, I was just skeptical of downloading weather addons and such because I didn't want it to access the internet. Also, everytime I let someone use my phone they end up opening internet explorer anyways. I guess we will see the bill at the end of the month, but this should stop it. Thanks again.

Strifex21 said:
Sweet, thanks man. I never really need to use the internet on my phone, I was just skeptical of downloading weather addons and such because I didn't want it to access the internet. Also, everytime I let someone use my phone they end up opening internet explorer anyways. I guess we will see the bill at the end of the month, but this should stop it. Thanks again.
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Then download apps that let YOU decide when things get updated.
Also, you could try using NoData from MoDaCo (free registration on site required to see/download attachments). Pay attention to their warnings, though: you must have GPRS settings installed for it to work
It'll basically render GPRS inoperable unless you absolutely NEED it, then you just run NoData again, and enable GPRS, and Bob's your mother's sister's husband.

Sweet, thanks for the heads up. Seems like I had No Data on my phone from the MDA Rom. Alright cool, well now I know how to use No Data. Thanks again!

Help! Browsers not working...

Hi everyone,
For some reason when I load IE or Opera, it won't let me connect to websites. Opera tells me that the remote server refuses to perform the request. But for some reason, all my other stuff like Youtube app, weather updates, etc. can still work. I'm on AT&T with my iphone 3G sim card. I tried deleting the MediaNet settings on the xperia and tried using connection wizard to setup again, but no go.
Please help, otherwise I'm gonna have to do a hard reset..

try use the wifi first? then switch back to sim 3G

elee888 said:
I'm on AT&T with my iphone 3G sim card.
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There are multiple issues using an AT&T SIM card that was set up to use with the iPhone.
Before you can move on to other issues and items, you need to let AT&T know that you no longer have an iPhone.
Then you need to face that decision whether or not to admit that the IMEI you give them is a pocket PC.

Is there a way to stop opera 9.5 beta from reverting to the default on screen keyboard whenever i want to type? Its really time consuming to change back to the one i always use

Update: Well I tried using wi-fi and turning it off to go to 3G, but that was a no-go. Funny thing is this happened before too when I left wi-fi on, but not connected to any network. As for the iphone plan, I know one issue is I won't be able to receive MMS, but as for data connection, its setup on the xperia to use MediaNet. It just doesn't make sense that all the programs on the xperia can connect to the internet via 3G (including email), except the 2 browsers. Am I missing something else here?

This sort of happens to me. But ny version is when ever i try to use the browsers (I select a favorite page for example) the browser will attempt to go to the page. But instead of opening the page the browser simply shuts itself down and the experia returns to the panel page. No errors given.
I found that I have to manually clear the browser cache (soft reset no worky for this) then the browsers go back to working properly.
There is a setting some where I am to dumb to find that controls this.