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Wifi Doesn't Work On A Blue Angel!

Hello...
I had Wifi working perfectly on my MDAIII for a very brief period. But it hasn't worked since!
Only by putting the phone into Bootloader mode and starting from scratch brings it back.
It says that it is connected to my network OK. There is very good signal strength. But it only seems to connect once and never again (Internet Explorer says it can't find the page)
I also can't connect to a Wifi point at my local coffee shop, so I know it's not my equipment.
I have tried fixing the IP address but this doesn't work too.
This is really annoying as that was the main reason for getting the damn phone!
The Wifi unit is a Belkin 54g F5D7630-4A running the latest firmware.
My MDAIII is:
ROM Version: 1.22.00 WWE
ROM Date: 10/22/04
Radio Version: 1.06.00
Protocol Version: 1337.38
ExtROM Version: 1.22.162 WWE
Thank you.

Hi there, I seem to remember a similar problem the first time I tried to connect to my wifi network...
Unfortunately, it not working on a another AP doesn't mean your wifi box is ok, the problem could be with your pda and/or your wifi box.
I'm guessing you've tried going right back to basics? Turn all security on your wifi box off (might want to disconnect any sensitive lan members first!) remove all pda-based wifi settings, get a 'second opinion' machine and fire it all up. If your alternative pc/xda can see the conn, then the problem is in your MDA... Like you needed someone to tell you that!
Assuming your pda sees your wifi box and connects, make sure you tell it to connect to the internet. Then it may be worth checking that your new wifi connection will work if you enable wep (I like running with security on and get twitchy when it's off!) making sure you've copied the key as a txt file to your pda first!
If you can't connect at all, and the second box can, it would seem your device is dead... Sympathies, talk to your supplier...
Hopefully it's not tho! Can you connect to the MDA from within the LAN, maybe even by pinging it? You can get the IP address of your pda by going through start, settings, connections tab, network cards, network adapters tab, wifi adapter (on my XDA that's the 'tiacxwln" one). I have a dhcp server on my network and so use a server-assigned IP address, but either way you'll be able to get the address here. Try to ping it from the second machine. There is a toolkit called VXUtils (http://www.cam.com/windowsce.html) which I find invaluable in all things tcp/ip.
If it's the same problem I had, then all this will work (can connect to local area network) and you will be really frustrated by now! In the end, I seem to remember, it came down to the fact that my pda was set to shared security and the wifi box was set to open... Making sure that they are set to the same authentication method fixed things. After I upgraded roms, I had a similar problem that was resolved by telling it it connected to the work network, soft rebooting, changing that back to internet and soft rebooting again.
HTH, please post any and all results and I'll see if I can help more/at all!

USB / ActiveSync / Internet connection, using Desktop PC

Hi,
A newbie, dummy, etc to the WM5.0, o2 xda exec device and what not + great to see this resource out there. I have got no WiFi or BlueTooth setup, the device set me back heavily for a good little while ;-)
Meanwhile attempting to develop some apps at home, I am trying to avoid O2's call plan data usage and connect to desktop PC (ie. some custom TCP apps running on it) as well as attempt to use its internet connection via USB/ActiveSync.
Have looked around for hours, hit google and more, and all I could find is help topic in ActiveSync : 'Use ActiveSync to "pass through" this computer, which of course I can't see working. For example, pocket IE just comes back with 'address is not valid' for any IP address I specify.
I can see the IP addresses associated with ActiveSync, ping them etc. but for the life of me I can't figure out what's required to use the pocket IE or any TCP client on the device to see the desktop's IP address or use its internet connection.
Any help greatly appreciated.
Regards,
Andy

In ActiveSync, go to connection setting. At the box "This computer is connected to", choose "The Internet".
It suppose to work now.

Thanks for the prompt reply. Have tried that, and what it presents is 'automatic', 'work', and 'internet'. I would have imagined it would present an option to chose my dial-up connection but nope, only those three choices are there.
None of them work, my setup does use a USB modem but I suspect that might not be a problem (although ActiveSync (4.1) seeems to be touchy about other USB devices judging by some web searches).
What I do see is a new Local Area Connection in network control panel for the mobile device. All its IP properties are set to automatic (private IP is automatic too). Event Log on the desktop doesn't report anything wrong either.
I try to use IP adrresses as URLs in Pocket IE only, hence it eliminates DNS issues or similar. I've also wiped the firewall to make sure it is not interfering in any way but still no luck.
What I am wondering now is whether this automagically works for others, if they had to add new modem connection or something on the device, and whether they had to enable Internet Connection Sharing on their dial-up (which I tried and messed up IP addresses and DHCP to some extent so I reverted back).
Any hints where I could be screwing up appreciated.
Regards,
Andy

From what I understand reading all day long (won't give up easy, is that pass thru is achieved through layered LSPs but somehow it's not working (question being does it really work with an USB/Dial up broadband).
And miserably failing at it, the network connection given to PC has following:
DHCP enabled
IP-Address : 169.254.2.2
Subnet-Mask: 255.255.255.0
Defeault-Gateway: (none specified)
DHCP Server is the Windows CE device and given address 169.254.2.1.
I would appreciate if someone can share their (working) Remote-NDIS Host settings from device in Settings/Network Cards/The Internet.
Thanks in advance.

Found and grabbed the settings off the web and some other forums, (169.254.2.1, and subnet mask of 255.255.255.0), things get "better".
"better" = another mega piece of nonsense.
R-NDIS Host now reconfigured, Pocket IE is still unable to use the USB dial-up broadband (no USB hubs involved on the desktop pc btw)
By some odd accident, started the MSN and while it refuses to check mail or similar (edit: it did allow it eventually), its chat features are working perfectly fine. Looking at desktop trace it goes off to :
ip48.hotmail-ppe.com via https
While that will return nothing to a browser based setup it certainly manages to use the desktop PC's connection as wireless is totally off on the device (called flight mode off is it, or similar?).
If anyone has seen or could explain this, or what on earth to do to get the IE (which consistently refuses with 'The address is not valid') to see the desktops connection from here, I'll be their slave for a week ;-)
Regards,
Andy

Matter solved, notified the networking and hopefully they pass it to IE team.
Put simply, write your own web-browser and it'll work
;-)

layman said:
Found and grabbed the settings off the web and some other forums, (169.254.2.1, and subnet mask of 255.255.255.0), things get "better".
"better" = another mega piece of nonsense.
R-NDIS Host now reconfigured, Pocket IE is still unable to use the USB dial-up broadband (no USB hubs involved on the desktop pc btw)
By some odd accident, started the MSN and while it refuses to check mail or similar (edit: it did allow it eventually), its chat features are working perfectly fine. Looking at desktop trace it goes off to :
ip48.hotmail-ppe.com via https
While that will return nothing to a browser based setup it certainly manages to use the desktop PC's connection as wireless is totally off on the device (called flight mode off is it, or similar?).
If anyone has seen or could explain this, or what on earth to do to get the IE (which consistently refuses with 'The address is not valid') to see the desktops connection from here, I'll be their slave for a week ;-)
Regards,
Andy
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The fact that you can see the new Local Area Connection (Windows Mobile-based Device #..) proves that your Pocket is connected with your PC.
The “Remote NDIS Host” setting can be “IP address allocated by server” (then you may have an error message, but you should share the PC internet connection with the Pocket), or “Specific IP address” 169.254.2.1 (Subnet Mask 255.255.255.0).
So, your problem may come from the connection that PIE is trying to use.
The settings of “Parameter/Connections/Connections/Advanced/Select Networks” should be “Work Network” (réseau de bureau in French) in which :
General = parameters set name
Modem = “empty”
[VPN = “empty”]
Proxy parameters = “This network connecting to Internet” ticked
“This network connecting to Internet through a proxy server” NOT ticked (unless you are connecting to internet through a proxy server).
Sometimes, when you change from GSM/GPRS/UMTS networks, you must soft reset the Pocket to make sure that PIE will use the newly selected network.
In my case my PC is connected to the ADSL modem through a router, which is used as a DHCP server. Then my pocket is getting an IP address by the router in my local network range (different than 169.254.2.1). I don’t know if the connection of the modem on USB can be a problem, but I don’t think so.
You mentioned “some custom TCP apps running on” the PC, did you try without?
Good luck

Had similar Problem ....
Hi Layman,
Your problem sounds very similar to mine - except that I have a cable connection rather dial-up. Differences aside:
I had a machine at work where I plug-in my XDA and it works fine with the inernet.
It refused to work at home. To cut a long story short ... Check your settings are correct, and DO NOT SHARE THE INTERNET on your machine.
On my XP at home I had a bridge (or connection sharing). Once I deinstalled that everything worked. The symptoms were simialr to yours, I can ping local machines but cannot go to the interenet.
My setup at home,
XP Home Edition
USB connection
Activesync 4.1
CABLE modem connected to a wireless/wired switch router.
This machine is connected to the switch.
NO Internet connection sharing.
Hope thi shelps.
Hope this helps...

Thanks to both of you for reply, I pretty much took it as IE bug and slashed out under (real identity at MS guys but no harm meant etc. All a good thing.
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Glaps, cheers, have tried that on number of occasions and what was weird is that it kept coming back checked, or that everything would be unchecked. I just did the tests again
As per earlier posts I switched to purely flight mode (no wireless), so soft reset wasn't required. Having said that and looking at it, I can confirm the My Work connection to use Internet (not proxy) gets unchecked
on every soft reset (perhaps another bug? Yep, it's a BUG ).
Even in a single boot, when I triple, quadruple checked the proxy was not on and that the setting was still unchecked, and that IE was available on Work connection PIE wouldn't connect. I think I did a hard reset about 100 times as well and none of it helped. I've tried probably 20 variations on the theme with many settings. The fact remained IE-irony was the only app unusable.
(This pretty much makes the Connection/Settings on ActiveSync4.1 to use pass through for work or internet irrelevant, it should be all automatic. I think the idea of it all was that RNDIS and that DTLP feature is intelligent enough to figure out what's local network (work) or internet. Frankly I think it was a mistake taking that route for one scenario at least, but time will tell, no point speculating and certainly off topic..)

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RedJupiter, cheers. I can confirm the above holds for the disabling of Internet Conn Sharing too. It is not a deciding factor for the device or more correctly Pocket IE. With or without ICS, all applications apart from IE work.
To add to this (and encourage the debate perhaps, at least others/I can learn more from other experiences), in the last 3 days I've seen numerous posts on how to configure ActiveSync 4.1 'correctly' (heck even the install is labeled wrong, 4.0, speaks volumes). Suggestions ranging to enable IP routing in registry on desktop XP box, to enable NetBios over TCP/IP, to configure WINS, DNS etc. All of which I just don't see affecting much at all (at least in my own setup)
Here it is a USB modem, no routers, simple Dell 9100 box. So two USBs used: one for device and one for broadband modem. (will post the ROM versions and other stuff later). Ops, add another one for keyboard but surely that shouldn't do interrupts or something ;-
Custom app HTTP requests succeed with no problem at all, all other apps work with internet too. Pocket IE stands out.
Hope I am proven 'wrong', it really don't matter on that front. It's just that I can't test with Pocket IE and must give money to provider just to use the browser with settings (MyISP) that will probably make it work (which btw, I haven't setup yet; and will be surprised if that solves this problem instead . Call it avoiding O2's 'mega-bloat-software' install that smashes the device effect, so I am even scared to set the ISP up since that freezing cold experience lol.
( was an intro, but consider it ignorable as it is just early experience:
Above all together only part of the story because the whole thing is as unstable as it gets, the device (OS really) can get really shaken when running low on memory. Files get deleted as you watch them, ActiveSync can return consistent 0x8007000E error on the device (wonder if anyone is checking this really) although plenty of free RAM is on it. Google just solidifies all this with the number of hits and problems related, but things ActiveSync can do (like add files) are just beyond any bug reason; it needs to be scrapped really and alternatives are available so no more moaning from me there).
Ok just one more , what's more things get far more messy when you involve VS 2005, bugs in all OS-es with SSL usage, cert handicaps, you name it. I guess that tells what I am doing with the desktop, simply
trying to do a full roundtrip and test my own server running on desktop. Turned out a web client was required so went down the route to host the browser and pump the HTTP/S myself. Of course, turns out there are issues with the TCP/IP Winsock interface and limitations not only related to authentification and certificates but more, but it's a start. Besides, I am glad I can hit websites from the device (not just desktop debugging)
Eventful 4 days, and all I can conclude is that coming back to software+hardware, jack changed in last 6 years of software 'advances'. Yet you'll see new AKUs, new issues and what not before all the other important bits are resolved first.. But .NET adoption will keep smashing those devices until they figure out it's not sensible having it at all if all software that will run on it would use it like its Free Money Monday every day; not until they sort out the desktop GUI and RAM eating experience first; and it will still all be classified as 'vis ta bloat' OS. )
Rant over
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Device : O2 EXEC DELETE * O2 FROM [CABs]
ROM version: 1.13.82 WWE (ROM Date: 11/30/05)
Radio version: 1.04.02
Protocol version: 42.37.P8
ExtROM version: 1.13.188 WWE

Wierd WiFi problem, only one request possible

Hello, since some time now I'm experiencing a wierd wifi connection behavior:
When I connect over wifi to my accesspoint everything goes well. It connects right away.
Also when I open IE and go to any site. It does download and display the site normally. But that is where the problem begins. It does this only for the first request. After that, there is no communication over wifi possible anymore. I cannot click on a link or change to any other website anymore. I cannot download mail, even cannot Ping (with vxUtil).
Other scenario:
I connect, download my email, after it gets done downloading, again.. it does not work anymore, neighter IE, nor download email again.. it always keeps trying to connect but aborts after a minute or so.
To make it work again, I always have to disconnect, and connect again, it then works for another request. Then again disconnect- connect... and so on.
Kinda enoying!!
Another scenario:
vxUtil, make a ping and keep on pinging. Works fine until I interrupt the ping. When I then try to ping again, it only gets timeouts again.
The Wifi connection is well during all of this, no drops no anything. The reception is excellent... it doesn't matter if I'm right next to the AP or a little farther away.
I remember that I didn't have this problem with my original Qtek ROM, after I changed to the Dopod ROM, this appeared somehow. Now I just flashed that MobiWiz custom rom with AKU 2.3, hoping it would solve the problem. ... well, it didn't.
In my wireless Lan I use WEP encription with a 26char HEX key; auth: open (not shared key). Setup is with DHCP and static IP the same... tried both, no difference. I have two Linksys APs with the newest firmware on them. Doesn't work with neighter of them.
Well, I searched a long time for a solution, but didn't really know what to look for, there is many things that come up when I search for "wifi" or "connection" and "problem", so I'm sorry if already someone wrote about this, please just post me the toppic...
Thank you guys very much, hope someone can help me!
My ROM info:
ROM version: 2.15.13.27 WWE
ROM date: 3/9/06
Radio version: 02.30.21
Protocol version: 4.1.13.16
ExtRom version: 2.15 AKU2.3 PDAMobiz Edition

Try to play with the power mode of WiFi. It could help.

Found the Problem
OK, I guess I found the reason for the problem.
As I wrote, I have 2 Access Points, one acting as a Repeater. Well... I guess the Prophet didn't like his Packets to be repeated, might have gotten them twice (from the first and then from the second AP). Anyways, so as soon as I switched off the repeating one, it worked again.
Still... kinda wierd, because my Laptop doesn't have a problem with it.

having just had to set up my new network at home i was reading up on using a second unit as a repeater. It mentiond that you have to tell one of the access points (think it was the main unit) how many hops you have in the system. This is to prevent 'system loops' or something. Sorry im not massive on this sort of thing but sounds like your problem.
Mine is i set the system up, main puter, 3 laptops, xda mini s and xda2i. all worked, added mac filtering all fine, added WPA PSK with TKIP security. Main puter and 3 laptops work fine. Both the XDA's sit there saying network available or connecting. but they never connect.
Pete

How I solved Wifi problem

Lately I have been reading many post related to Wifi problems in the HD. I had the same. Even I was very near my router I couldn't connect to the net and the signal was very weak.
So I entered my router configuration and I found a solution.
Before, for security options I had: WPA-PSK [TKIP] then I changed to WPA2-PSK [AES] (of course you also have to change your HD connection configuratoin), and now it works great¡¡¡¡
Now I have all the bars for the signal and I can connect very easily.
Hope it works for other people

I have a similar WiFi connectivity problem, but after reading of the poor service provided by most vendors and HTC itself, I will try to gather some more experience with the problem before I contact HTC or my vendor, and hopefully find a solution. Bellow is my experience so far:
I own an HTC Touch HD since January and have a similar problem, only it surfaced last week. Before I had only used the WiFi connectivity briefly. The problems started after I installed an AP on my house expressively for the new PDA. The node is fully open and set to B/G/N protocols.
After a couple days of medium (couple hours per day) use the WiFi connection suddenly quit, the device would try to connect (the top bar showing the WiFi connection animation continuously) and after a few moments gave up with a dialog box stating the current network settings were wrong (even thou they worked fine a few hours earlier).
I tried several hot and cold resets, but only solved the problem after flashing a new ROM; even then the same symptoms reappeared after a couple of days of regular use. Again no re-setting would cure the problem, and now not even flashing the ROM again would work. Nonetheless, some hours latter the WiFi would connect perfectly with the same nodes it refused to before, and in very short time.
I have witnessed this cycle twice and have yet not been able to find a trigger for it, but will keep my eyes open for any tell tale signs, and post any findings here.

I could add to the above mentioned problems.
i got a new hd just few days back.
The wifi worked great. But now it doesnt.
I have disabled wifi, so can start it whenever i require.
I click on wifi button to enable it.
Then open opera, try any website.
it will open fine.
For instance say my email at gmail.com
Now after that if i try to open anysites or even continue with my mail, it shows error saying connection not available.
One of the workaround is to go back to toggele wifi off and switched it on.
Not sure if anyone faces a similar issue.

I's been about a week since my last post and I have already witnessed a couple of cycles of WiFi connecting perfectly and then not connecting at all.
No matter the settings I try after it decides not to connect, it won't. Even to nodes it had connected perfectly and fast jus minutes before.
I thought re-flashing might help but so far has proven ineffective. Once I thought some part of the non-volitile memory was causing the problem since after I cleared the memory I could connect for a while.
Any thoughts anyone?

Same problems here.
For the last hour I have been reading 10ths of threads here concerning WiFi problems.
My HD's WiFi worked fine on my home and outside for about 2 months. Now it doesn't. It reports connection, but no program can use the internet. At best, it seems to be able to exchange some Kbytes the for just a few seconds after a connection is established. Then nothing. Connected but unusable.
Tried everything Internet/My Work/My ISP, WAP enabled/disabled, soft/hard reset, everything.
When connected through ActiveSync everything works fine, all programs see internet.
Has anybody taken their HD to the service? Has any HTC service worldwide identified the problem as hardware and solved it by replacing something?

miskasp said:
Lately I have been reading many post related to Wifi problems in the HD. I had the same. Even I was very near my router I couldn't connect to the net and the signal was very weak.
So I entered my router configuration and I found a solution.
Before, for security options I had: WPA-PSK [TKIP] then I changed to WPA2-PSK [AES] (of course you also have to change your HD connection configuratoin), and now it works great¡¡¡¡
Now I have all the bars for the signal and I can connect very easily.
Hope it works for other people
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I have just encountered a similar problem, but already used wpa/wpa2 with aes. Have tried a hard reset with no joy. My old HTC Touch has no probs connecting via wifi nor does my laptop so I would surmise that the prob is with the HD and not the router.
I am going to try flashing with the latest version of Duttys 6.1 rom and see what gives.
Edit: Tried flashing with new rom with no success. Take a look at this post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3769339&postcount=7
There are a couple of files to download but i only used the second ie this one.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1363759&postcount=2
Now no problems and can connect via wifi no probs, ip address assigned by dhcp.

Try to go into WiFi settings and move the power slider to max performance. I need to do it here to access my router. This happened also with my HTC TyTN II, with any recent radio firmware. The original WM 6.0 ROM and it's radio work fine in low power mode, but the new ones appear connected but are always at 1 Mbps and there's no traffic until you move the slider to performance mode.

You go into WiFi settings and you configure manual IP and DNS so as router.
DNS is important.
Whit manual configuration, Wifi work always.
(sorry for my english)

Dubh Llas said:
There are a couple of files to download but i only used the second ie this one.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1363759&postcount=2
Now no problems and can connect via wifi no probs, ip address assigned by dhcp.
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Yeah, but what if I 'm not Orange-UK (let alone UK) ?
vcespon said:
Try to go into WiFi settings and move the power slider to max performance.
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1st thing I did. Problem still there.
campotino said:
You go into WiFi settings and you configure manual IP and DNS so as router.
DNS is important.
Whit manual configuration, Wifi work always.
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This is not a solution. I didn 't buy the device to be able to connect to my home WiFi only. What about public hotspots? Or hotels? Or whatever outside your home?

A300FU WiFi locks entire Router

OK - I use LOS 14 which has been more or less fine ( a few documented niggles on the thread, but OK up to now)
About two weeks ago, without any obvious changes my WiFi locks the entire router - resulting in a router reset. Router is a "TP Linke AC750 Wireless Dual Band Gigabit Router"
I did initially think this was triggered by the IP lease expiry, but set IP addresses or maxing out the lease time didn't seem to work. But it does seem to occur when the phone reconnects
I have increased the log settings - see screen shot - with "network_selection_disabled_association_rejection=3"
Also, in the Logs there is WiFiQualifiedNetowrkSelector: <ssid>: <mac of router> is on blacklist
Looking around the net this error seems to be down to the phone blacklisting the router due to poor connections - but I didn't even leave the house today and it hit
I've tried lots of tweaks to WiFi, keeping it on, keeping it off. I have now just moved my Routers channel to a less busy one - but I have no idea what is causing it.
I have removed all the apps that I can recall installing just before this happened.
ROM is as it is and was stable for months before this happened - Router firmware is up to date and went through factory reset - can't do that for phone for a week as it is my key generator for 2 factor authentication to work network and if I zap phone you can bet work will need remote access before next week!
Ideas anyone?
Cheers
Eserim

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