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I've just started using the Outlook Domino connector to enable me to use Outlook to access our Lotus Notes server, and more importantly, sync my Notes inbox, calendar etc with the i-mate without other third-party software (I was previously using mNotes from CommonTime which didn't totally satisfy my needs).
Whilst I'm now thrilled with the Outlook/Notes/i-mate sync scenario, which is working beyond my expectations, I'm a little hesitant to set up my Activesync to Exchange Server Account (from Club i-mate) which I also use for private email because I'm unsure whether this dual server via Activesync scenario will work (and I can't jeopardize my Notes mail / calendar integrity to check).
So, has anybody tried using Activesync to syncronize with their PC's Outlook inbox / calendar etc, PLUS a server sync with Exchange? What happens? Do you just end up with two Inbox items in Activesync? Does all your email etc from all accounts end up in the same PPC inbox (and then both accounts)?
Any first-hand experience would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
Hi,
it is not possible to do both with ActiveSync. If you configure ActiveSync for server sync it no longer synchronizes with Outlook locally.
You can use IMAP or POP3 for your additional accounts, I am using Exchange for my main account and IMAP for other accounts and it works fine.
Okay Softworkz, that's what I was afraid of.
Unfortunately Clubimate don't allow POP (or IMAP) access for member email, so it's one or the other for me then.
Thanks for your comment.
Ooooh interesting - what was up with mNotes? =) Version 3.5 is out soon by the way - and I'm working on some stuff for our new website..
Hi Madkat,
I used mNotes on my original XDA and now my i-mate with great success for ages, until I made the mistake of creating categories for my contacts. Once I happened mis-type a category name and that was when I discovered that I couldn't delete them - at all.
No matter what I did I couldn't stop rogue categories from appearing in the drop-down list. After removing all contacts from the rogue category, and then deleting it on the i-mate (or Notes, it didn't matter), the rogue category would still appear in the drop-down list, and in the add / remove categories sceen as [category name] (not in master category list), or words to that effect. I also played around with the mNotes config app which is installed on the device (which was just about all I could find in the user manual relating to categories), but the manual didn't match what was installed (guess it hadn't been updated for that section), and I wasn't successful.
I actually posted a question on xda-developers about it, but wasn't able to sort it out. I just became frustrated in the end. I'm not sure I'd go back to it now because I'm so impressed with the Outlook Domino Connector and not having to use Notes for my e-mail at work - I hate notes as an email client, especially with all the 'customisations' our IT jerks have done; we don't have rights to do anything - can't even create rules to move mail to other folders based on content anymore. It's a shame they don't upgrade to Notes 6, but there you go.
TBH I hate Notes as a mail client too!! If I didn't have to do any Notes development I'd be using IMAP on the Domino server & Thunderbird on my PC.
I think it is worth mentioning, though, that during your 30-day evaluation you are entitled to full tech support by email and/or phone - bit late now though! D'OH.
i just do not want to open another topic....
i have a pc with win xp and ms outlook... ms outlook is set up with an exchange server for all items (email, calendar, tasks etc)
is it possible to sync, via activesync, my windows mobile device with the content of ms outlook on my pc? the purpose is to have the same calendar, tasks and contacts on my phone WM device also...
thanks
Anyone have any ideas how I can sync an O2 XDA Mini S with an Apple Mac? Right now Missing Sync / PocketMac don't support WM5. One thought is to use MS Entourage and a ISP host that offers hosted MS Exchange. From what I can see, this route will let me sync email (via IMAP), but what about contacts / diary / tasks. Will it work? Are there any better ideas?
I tried using VPC but although Activesync 4.1 installed fine it will not recognise my K-JAM.
Mind you neither will a damn silly IBM Laptop sat next to my Powerbook............
I am getting ready to send this pup back which would be a real shame as I love the form factor of this beastie.
Robin
I currenty use a hosted Exchange setup, and so bypass using my Mac for syncing. It syncs email, tasks, appointments, and contacts flawlessly between Entourage, Exchange and my K-Jam. Also, when Microsoft eventually releases AKU2 with Direct Push, it'll push email from my Exchange account to my phone.
I have no complaints about using Exchange (whereas the features offered by PocketMac and MissingSync are really behind the curve.
My advice, pay for the hosted Exchange account. It'll work out slightly more expensive, but it'll work perfectly.
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I currenty use a hosted Exchange setup, and so bypass using my Mac for syncing. It syncs email, tasks, appointments, and contacts flawlessly between Entourage, Exchange and my K-Jam. Also, when Microsoft eventually releases AKU2 with Direct Push, it'll push email from my Exchange account to my phone.
I have no complaints about using Exchange (whereas the features offered by PocketMac and MissingSync are really behind the curve.
My advice, pay for the hosted Exchange account. It'll work out slightly more expensive, but it'll work perfectly.
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Yes but this won't allow me to sync my work Outlook account nor will it allow me to sync my files, SplashID and a number of other applications that I sync on a daily basis.
Robin
the_invisigoth said:
I currenty use a hosted Exchange setup, and so bypass using my Mac for syncing. It syncs email, tasks, appointments, and contacts flawlessly between Entourage, Exchange and my K-Jam. Also, when Microsoft eventually releases AKU2 with Direct Push, it'll push email from my Exchange account to my phone.
I have no complaints about using Exchange (whereas the features offered by PocketMac and MissingSync are really behind the curve.
My advice, pay for the hosted Exchange account. It'll work out slightly more expensive, but it'll work perfectly.
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Thanks for the info. It's what I've been thinking about. Who do you use? Any hints on how to set this all up?
sync with mac
I use 4smartphone exange server - worked fine with my qtek 9090 and works fine wint xda s mini. To transfer/sync files I use bluetoth file transfer from my powerbook. It is not as convinient as using windows but its OK for me.
Does that work OK with MS Entourage and Pocket PCs? I took (a brief) look at their website http://www.4smartphone.net and it seemed to only talk about Windows.
How long have you been with them? Any problems with service?
Thanks
4smartphone
it works fine with entourage (exept it doen't sync tasks). Emails, contacts and calendar - no problem. I've used them for six month now - no service problems so far. Now they even can send sms to set up your device (wm5) so you don't have to do it manualy.
BTW if you want to use apple's address book - it can sync with ehange server. I just found that out - forks well with 4smartphone server. I wanted that to be able to lookup contacts on my powerbook usig quicksilver. It indexes address book very well.
4smartphone
it works fine with entourage (exept it doen't sync tasks). Emails, contacts and calendar - no problem. I've used them for six month now - no service problems so far. Now they even can send sms to set up your device (wm5) so you don't have to do it manualy.
BTW if you want to use apple's address book - it can sync with ehange server. I just found that out - forks well with 4smartphone server. I wanted that to be able to lookup contacts on my powerbook usig quicksilver. It indexes address book very well.
the_invisigoth any comments on your host?
TIA
I'm in the UK, and use 1&1 (www.1and1.co.uk). I have to say that their tech support is absolutely rubbish!!! However, the actual Exchange service they offer is excellent, with no outage problems etc. in the 2 months I've been using it.
Setup is fairly easy, and contrary to what has been said above, task syncing DOES work, but only with the latest MS update (Came out about 3 weeks ago). As for any other 3rd party app syncing usually done over ActiveSync, I just use the wi-fi connection. File transfer is done over Bluetooth using the ever friendly Mac Bluetooth File Exchange wizard, and if I have to install something from a PC because the developers haven't provided a CAB file (latest MS Reader update for WM5, grrr :evil, I resort to using my girlfriend's laptop.
The one thing I haven't been able to do is to use my phone as a bluetooth modem for my Powerbook. For some reason, OS X doesn't see the phone as a DUN agent, as it used to with my Nokia 7610.
Other than that, the perfect Windows-free setup!
Thanks Invisigoth.
I signed up to 1and1 yesterday and everything is working ok. I'll try out task synching.
One question, did they move your email domain to their servers? Or did they just point Exchange to your domain? One thing I don't want to do it move my domain and website.
1 and 1
Invisigoth - "task syncing DOES work, but only with the latest MS update (Came out about 3 weeks ago)".
I tried it and it doesn't seem to work. I've checked my Mac and all the software is up to date. Is there anything I'm missing?
Club i-mate hase a free Exange server on there site. Works fine!
What I've done, since I already have a seperate hosting setup for my domain, is redirect all my mail from jonathansimmons [dot] co [dot] uk to my completely random and impossible to remember 1&1 email exchange address. This way, the service acts seemlessly, but you keep your domain registered with your existing provider.
Also, have just realised that I'm being a complete imbecile about task syncing. Tasks on your Wizard will sync with the exchange server, and be available to view online, but Entourage still doesn't sync them locally. Hopefully Microsoft will put this final measure in place before too long, after all the work they put in to make Entourage work more smoothly with Exchange.
Anybody know of a program that is a suitable replacement for Microsoft Outlook which can sync to the Touch?
I'm coming from the Palm platform and the Palm Desktop was so much easier and simpler to use.
I've seen replacements for the Touch contact program but nothing to replace Microsoft Outlook for the desktop.
I'd like to remove Outlook from my computer and find something that would sync contacts and or appointments to the Touch.
http://funambol.com/
There are a lot of other possibilities to replace outlook and/or activesync. But after reading the adventures blog of someone who tried them all out it was very convincing that this is the best. Actually he described 8 different solutions on his blog, most of which I had not been able to find googling for over two days.
For those of you who are still relying on Outlook: it has proven it's reliability to me from 1997 till last week. Then it crashed, refused to open my pst file with all my contacts, my appointments, my tasks and an email archive of overr 3 years. It also refused to start with a backup pst. It also refused to start from scratch with a new profile and import either an old pst or comma delimited backup.
It'll take me some time to recover from this horror scenario
I'd just like to pipe up and say that I'm not a fan of the ActiveSync/Outlook combo either. I always end up with duplicate or even triplicate contact entries. A friend of mine who uses Hotmail as his primary email says he doesn't have this problem, but I refuse to be forced into Hotmail just for this purpose.
If your primary email is GMail, then follow the directions here:
http://www.google.com/support/mobile/bin/answer.py?answer=138636&topic=14299
And your contacts and calendar will stay in sync via Google's own Exchange server. Unfortunately, they don't have Mail syncing via Exchange yet for some reason. But you can set up GMail with IMAP in your Email client, or you can download a third-party push-email software which will allow for a further realtime-ness to it all.
As for desktop software beyond Outlook, I don't think I can make any suggestions, I've been on GMail for a long time now. And even more so, I've been using Android full time for nearly a year now, which is even better than my above suggestions, as long as GMail is what you use primarily.
I have seen several posts over the years from people looking to sync multiple Exchange mailboxes/calendars to their WM phones. The official word from Microsoft is, of course, you can't do that, and it is for security purposes. To date, I haven't seen a way to accomplish this, other than to have IMAP or POP3 and use the second exchange account in this way.
The paradox for Microsoft is which domain 'owns' the device. If you sync to two different servers, and one issues the remote reset command, the phone will hard reset, losing the data from the other server. Also, if there are policies in place for one domain, and you sync to a second, which set of policies supercedes the other.
I am probably one of the few people ( although it's probably not that rare consider many users here are developers ) who runs their own exchange server at home. I have my phone synced to my home Exchange server which houses all of my email, contacts, calendar apps, ect. The company I work for also uses exchange and opens the ability to sync via ActiveSync, but denies IMAP and POP3 access. I always wanted a way to get just my calendare from work so that when I am in the game room, or outside, or helping a co-worker, I didn't forget about the meetings scheduled at work.
Ok, with that background, here is the true purpose of the post. I have written a small app that uses WebDAV (same thing the Outlook web access uses) to query the Exchange server at work and return the all of the appointments on my calendar in XML format. This app then parses the XML, and sends regular emails with the calendar invites to my home Exchange server, and of course my phone. Once I log in and accept them, they show up on my phone, my home Outlook, and my Outlook at work. The strategy could easily be applied to email, as the WebDAV query i've created need only be tweaked to return the email in additional to the calendar appointments. The device retains no relationship with the exchange server from which the email and calendar settings come, so there is no question of domain ownership
What I would like to know from the community, is there still a need for this app? Right now many of the configurable items are hardcoded to my server settings, mainly because it started as a POC, and it is in a C# Console Application. It could easily be modified to run on the .NET 3.5 CF, with all of the important info as configurable options, and distrubuted.
Would anyone be interested in this?
bryancruise said:
I have seen several posts over the years from people looking to sync multiple Exchange mailboxes/calendars to their WM phones. The official word from Microsoft is, of course, you can't do that, and it is for security purposes. To date, I haven't seen a way to accomplish this, other than to have IMAP or POP3 and use the second exchange account in this way.
The paradox for Microsoft is which domain 'owns' the device. If you sync to two different servers, and one issues the remote reset command, the phone will hard reset, losing the data from the other server. Also, if there are policies in place for one domain, and you sync to a second, which set of policies supercedes the other.
I am probably one of the few people ( although it's probably not that rare consider many users here are developers ) who runs their own exchange server at home. I have my phone synced to my home Exchange server which houses all of my email, contacts, calendar apps, ect. The company I work for also uses exchange and opens the ability to sync via ActiveSync, but denies IMAP and POP3 access. I always wanted a way to get just my calendare from work so that when I am in the game room, or outside, or helping a co-worker, I didn't forget about the meetings scheduled at work.
Ok, with that background, here is the true purpose of the post. I have written a small app that uses WebDAV (same thing the Outlook web access uses) to query the Exchange server at work and return the all of the appointments on my calendar in XML format. This app then parses the XML, and sends regular emails with the calendar invites to my home Exchange server, and of course my phone. Once I log in and accept them, they show up on my phone, my home Outlook, and my Outlook at work. The strategy could easily be applied to email, as the WebDAV query i've created need only be tweaked to return the email in additional to the calendar appointments. The device retains no relationship with the exchange server from which the email and calendar settings come, so there is no question of domain ownership
What I would like to know from the community, is there still a need for this app? Right now many of the configurable items are hardcoded to my server settings, mainly because it started as a POC, and it is in a C# Console Application. It could easily be modified to run on the .NET 3.5 CF, with all of the important info as configurable options, and distrubuted.
Would anyone be interested in this?
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Ive been after an app like this for ages - I went for a google synch approach with my work exchange and then pulling my work calendar to google and then to my home exchange account on my mobile - problem with this was i regularily got duplicates! I have since sacrificed having my home and work calendar synch and just have my work email being polled by imap. The key for me is i dont want all my home contacts and calendar appointments synched with my work email - would just like to pull my work calendar every know and again and ensure i dont have duplicates - would this work in this way enabling an adhoc pull on the work calendar without creating duplicates and sending personal appointments to my work calendar?
Fantastic, would love to see this developed. Would pay for this app.
JPHCCFC said:
Ive been after an app like this for ages - I went for a google synch approach with my work exchange and then pulling my work calendar to google and then to my home exchange account on my mobile - problem with this was i regularily got duplicates! I have since sacrificed having my home and work calendar synch and just have my work email being polled by imap. The key for me is i dont want all my home contacts and calendar appointments synched with my work email - would just like to pull my work calendar every know and again and ensure i dont have duplicates - would this work in this way enabling an adhoc pull on the work calendar without creating duplicates and sending personal appointments to my work calendar?
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This app checks for duplicates by using the subject. The only testing I've done is on my own calendar and such, but I have found no issues with duplicates. Introducing this app to a wider audience should point out any issues right away.
Based on the limited amount of feedback I've received, I think I will work it into a windows mobile application for mass consumption. I will keep this thread updated with the progress. Any additional features anyone can think of are appreciated.
that would be fantastic i will definately testing it out. another great feature would be to enable it to synch with google calendars as well while checking duplicates with the exchange calendar - all the onew i have trie have failed on the duplicates side! will monitor this thread and check when an app is available
cheers
JPHCCFC said:
that would be fantastic i will definately testing it out. another great feature would be to enable it to synch with google calendars as well while checking duplicates with the exchange calendar - all the onew i have trie have failed on the duplicates side! will monitor this thread and check when an app is available
cheers
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I would be interested, but more for pushing of emails from my google app, rather than calendar/contacts, to my mobile phone.
I would LOVE getting my calendars and contacts synched between my work exchange and personal exchange
zenkinz said:
I would be interested, but more for pushing of emails from my google app, rather than calendar/contacts, to my mobile phone.
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zenkinz you can do this now by getting google mail to autoforward all emails to your exchange account - thats what i do now and it works like a treat
I would not only love an application like this but maybe one that allows the use of Intellisync along with Activesync to allow them both to work cohesively. Since Novell and Microsoft do not play well together I cannot use my hotmail to work with my activesync the same way.
Hey guys, i don't know if this works for everyone but i saw this post ages ago that allows a quick registry edit to allow activesync 4.x to sync over multiple servers.
Currently i sync my exchange server calendar and contacts with google calendar.
The link on google groups is http://groups.google.co.uk/group/microsoft.public.pocketpc.activesync/browse_thread/thread/7e44b0374561f9e3/e25f50cf495e64b8?lnk=st&q=solved+exchange+pocketpc&rnum=3&pli=1
I have a polaris running a wm6.1 build. and this seems to work really well. I hope this helps someone!
Fergus278 said:
Hey guys, i don't know if this works for everyone but i saw this post ages ago that allows a quick registry edit to allow activesync 4.x to sync over multiple servers.
Currently i sync my exchange server calendar and contacts with google calendar.
The link on google groups is http://groups.google.co.uk/group/microsoft.public.pocketpc.activesync/browse_thread/thread/7e44b0374561f9e3/e25f50cf495e64b8?lnk=st&q=solved+exchange+pocketpc&rnum=3&pli=1
I have a polaris running a wm6.1 build. and this seems to work really well. I hope this helps someone!
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At first blush, the link suggested syncing with one exchange connected pc, and one push-enabled server. While close, I do not believe this is the same functionality my app will provide. Did I miss something?
would love it.
i own a consulting company and have two email addresses. my personal and a "support" mailbox. would be nice to see that support box without using oma or even worse OWA on vga screen. ugh.
this app is definitely. needed.
thanks for the effort.
Excellent !
Works like a charm for several pop3 accounts.
Ciao
Fred
I too have my own Exchange server at home, and several other Exchange accounts at work- each on different domains. This would be a great thing for me, and one I would pay for.
I am currently running Exchange 2007 on my home domain, Exchange 2010 for one account at work, and Exchange 2003 for another. If this works on all 3 "flavours" I would be stoked.
bryancruise said:
I have seen several posts over the years from people looking to sync multiple Exchange mailboxes/calendars to their WM phones. The official word from Microsoft is, of course, you can't do that, and it is for security purposes. To date, I haven't seen a way to accomplish this, other than to have IMAP or POP3 and use the second exchange account in this way.
The paradox for Microsoft is which domain 'owns' the device. If you sync to two different servers, and one issues the remote reset command, the phone will hard reset, losing the data from the other server. Also, if there are policies in place for one domain, and you sync to a second, which set of policies supercedes the other.
I am probably one of the few people ( although it's probably not that rare consider many users here are developers ) who runs their own exchange server at home. I have my phone synced to my home Exchange server which houses all of my email, contacts, calendar apps, ect. The company I work for also uses exchange and opens the ability to sync via ActiveSync, but denies IMAP and POP3 access. I always wanted a way to get just my calendare from work so that when I am in the game room, or outside, or helping a co-worker, I didn't forget about the meetings scheduled at work.
Ok, with that background, here is the true purpose of the post. I have written a small app that uses WebDAV (same thing the Outlook web access uses) to query the Exchange server at work and return the all of the appointments on my calendar in XML format. This app then parses the XML, and sends regular emails with the calendar invites to my home Exchange server, and of course my phone. Once I log in and accept them, they show up on my phone, my home Outlook, and my Outlook at work. The strategy could easily be applied to email, as the WebDAV query i've created need only be tweaked to return the email in additional to the calendar appointments. The device retains no relationship with the exchange server from which the email and calendar settings come, so there is no question of domain ownership
What I would like to know from the community, is there still a need for this app? Right now many of the configurable items are hardcoded to my server settings, mainly because it started as a POC, and it is in a C# Console Application. It could easily be modified to run on the .NET 3.5 CF, with all of the important info as configurable options, and distrubuted.
Would anyone be interested in this?
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This could even be made into a PC application, and I would be happy. Let me know if you need any help in testing or coding.
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At first blush, the link suggested syncing with one exchange connected pc, and one push-enabled server. While close, I do not believe this is the same functionality my app will provide. Did I miss something?
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Well just to confirm, i sync with my works exchange server and google sync which as far as i know uses Exchange ActiveSync® protocol. To this extent i am effectively syncing with two exchange servers.
I do not sync my phone with any pc, so this registry mod does do what i think you describe. I suggest you try this regsitry mod and see if it does what you ask.
regardless i hope it helps!
ButtonBoy said:
I too have my own Exchange server at home, and several other Exchange accounts at work- each on different domains. This would be a great thing for me, and one I would pay for.
I am currently running Exchange 2007 on my home domain, Exchange 2010 for one account at work, and Exchange 2003 for another. If this works on all 3 "flavours" I would be stoked.
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I am not sure about Exchange 2010, but I know that my app (in it's current form) relies on WebDAV, which makes it work with Exchange 2000, 2003, and 2007. I don't have an Exchange 2010 test environment at the moment, but will stand one up if demand were to increase. Once it goes RTM I will definately use it and this app will be compatible. Again, as long as they leave WebDAV support in, and don't break the interface, this app will already work with it.
Fergus278 said:
Well just to confirm, i sync with my works exchange server and google sync which as far as i know uses Exchange ActiveSync® protocol. To this extent i am effectively syncing with two exchange servers.
I do not sync my phone with any pc, so this registry mod does do what i think you describe. I suggest you try this regsitry mod and see if it does what you ask.
regardless i hope it helps!
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Thanks, I will definately look into this.
Just as a general update on progress, I began digging into the true dirt of the conversion today and ran into several issues. First being that the System.Net.Mail namespace isn't in the compact framework, and since that is functionality in the .net System.dll, it can't be exported for use with CF. I found however that the same functionality exists in the Microsoft.Mobile.PocketOutlook namespace, so that was easy to overcome. I ran into some issues during testing (my exchange server went down overnight so i couldn't test at all (btw, it going down had nothing to do with this app )). The WebDAV query works, but since I am returning such a large dataset, it takes quite a while over EDGE (TMobile 3G is slated for Louisville in a few weeks!!!). Otherwise, the port is moving right along and hope to have an alpha version posted in the coming days.
BTW, does anyone out there have a good name for this app. In a lapse of creativity, I named it InfoSync, but I think that is too generic. Suggestions?
Does anyone use Verizon's mobile email for smartphones? What is the benefit of that app? If you can already get exchange, Yahoo, Gmail etc. etc. why would anyone want to download and install the app. If there are more benefits for using this, please let me know.
-Thanks
its a hosted service, the best feature is that you can lose/destroy your phone and have all of your email and contacts in a safe place. (like microsoft "my phone"). Its been around for a long time now, was originally "Nokia's Intellisync" (also rebranded for Novell Groupwise).
It has a nice web-based ui for managing your contacts and appointments.
In the end it up to you what service you use to backup your info/data, just use one of them.
Thanks for the great reply back. That explains a lot
So it is for POP3 and IMAP accounts? Can't use it with Google Sync?
correct, cant use with google sync. or any other push email service