Guys,
Have you noticed that when you try to overclock the JasJar past 520mhz it freezes and then displays a blank blue screen.
I was attempting to overclock it to 624mhz using Pocket Hack Master 2005 and XCPUScalar (latest version) when I noticed this.
It underclocks OK though... (416, 312, 208 etc)
Through research I'm aware the the Intel Bulverde (pxa270) should have the ability to overclock to 728mhz using the to 2 mentioned utilities.
Has anyone else experienced this?
Anyone else experiencing this????
Anyone????
Patience dear boy.
Considering how new the Universal is. Very few people have them at the moment. Even fewer will have actually tried to overclock them.
I will give it a go tomorrow.
maybe wait a little for a wm5 update
Thanks Rilot!!
I guess your right - need to give the device time to mature...
Have you had any luck on the VGA hack you were working on?
Having problems with the VGA hack.
I can get the device in to low DPI mode (what we call real VGA mode) but I can't get the icons to work properly no matter what dlls I use. WM5 seems to throw a fit every now and again when running in this mode.
I think I may have to defer this project to someone with greater knowledge of how WM5 does it's stuff.
I see...
WM2005 seems to be very very touchy about things...
I am also looking into "Real VGA" mode - as I learn more I'll post my findings...
Thanks for the support
I am running 624 MHz
I used Pocket Hack master 2005 (V3.15) and managed to overclock to 624Mhz
Bus 208 RAM 104 LCD 104
Giving me
SI 372 MIPS 261
Which beats the 520 clock's
SI 341 MIPS "17
noticed that today screen refreshes much better and overall noticably more responsive!
cool
MrGinger,
Did you test 624mhz using the "speed configuration" in Pocket Hack Master?
Did you use the 624mhz option thats already there or did you create your own 624mhz profile?
Yes I used the speed configuration in pocket hack master.
I used the preset one under "filter > generic > Intel PXA270 Official"
At the bottom of the list
624 208 104 104
Tested fine for me (multiple times so not a one off fluke) and is v.stable... is it giving you problems?
Bombs out with blue screen on 728 though!
I just did exactly that - used those exact settings and it displayed the Blue Screen and froze... Soft reset required...
Are you using and Imate JasJar from expansys as well?
My device information is:
ROM version: 1.12.38 WWE
Rom date: 08/24/05
Radio version: 1.03.00
Protocol Version: 42.36.P8
ExtROM Version: 1.12.120 WWE
Are any of your device Software revisions different to mine?
This is admittedly frustrating me a little...
probably less stable
This is dodgy so probably means this is not too stable will let you know tomorrow!
tried 728 and boom
soft reset then into speed configurator
filter > generic > Full
takes ages to render but I tried
676 208 104 104
and it worked!
So I went down to 728 208 104 104 like I did before but from the full list
AND IT WORKED!!
Wait a mo (5 mins later)... just tried hot swapping to 728 from today screen and BOOM this is not at all stable on mine
Also noticed that SI score was 318 as was the 676MHz score, both bad as 624 had SI of 372...
My gut feeling is the thing only like 624 tops
..... just tried hot swap to 676 and boom aswell...
624 is the only stable overclock on mine!
hope this helps
Question: wil overclocking chew through my battery life?
sorry missed your last post.
Mine is same as yours
jasjar from expansys
have 2GB momy memory sd and voda sim
running sbp pocket plus not that it should make a difference
rom 1.12.38 WWE
date 08/24/05
radio 1.03.00
protocol 42.36.P8
ExtROM 1.12.120 WWE
exactly the same as yours
got mine delivered last friday
this is weird... i can feel your pain
Yes overclocking does take its toll on the battery life.
But I find it extremely useful to dynically set the CPU according my personal usage patterns.
For example on my MDA3(IMate PDA2k, O2 XDA2s) I would underclock the processor to 200mhz when it was on standby and overclock it to 472mhz when working on it.
I going to try your settings now and see what happens...
BTW - you help is really appreciated.
May not be relevant but if you have XCPUScaler still on your jar try removing it first then soft reset then pocket hack speed conf
just trying to think of suggestions.
signing off for the night. I'll check in tomorrow
Thanks MrGinger,
You have been very helpful - Really appreciated
I'll look into this further tomorrow and post my findings.
overclocking
Is there a chance of frying the mobo by overclocking, I did that once with a PC, I dont want to ruind such a pricey investment by gaining a few seconds of load time thought
nabil2000,
The Intel XScale achitecture allows for speeds in excess of 624mhz.
The fastest stable speed I am aware of is 728mhz on the Dell axim x50v which also features the Intel Bulverde processor (PXA270).
I am trying to make my JasJar operate at 624mhz as MrGinger has managed to get his to function in a stable manor at this speed.
MrGinger's JasJar also features the same software and rom revisions as mine.
Also I do not believe oveclocking to 624mhz will damage the device in any way.
I have owned a Xda1, 2(Himalaya), and 2s (BlueAngel).
Most of the time I had my Xda2 and 2s (PXA263) overclocked to 530mhz with no detrimental effects.
I still have the blue angel and it works perfectly. (Lost my xda2...)
Both devices were very fast and responsive at that speed - however, unsurprisingly, they didn't last long between battery charges.
qazzi76,
thanks dude,
I might consider overclocking it then, speed improvements and responsiveness are always welcome
Nabil H out
Just a short question about all this:
Is the JasJar running WM5 actually faster than an iMate PDA2K on WM2003 and overclocked to 530Mhz?
Or since4 the system is still running on ROM based Storage it still drops down in performance especially in Calendar and Contact lookups?
Related
Hi!
Has anyone yet found out good values for the overclocking? Can the overclocking damage the Prophet (O2 XDA Neo)?
Does the overclocked CPU drain more battery power?
that tool is great to overclock the profhet to 240-250 Mhz
you must test it what for you the best config !
I've been overclocking my JAMin since day 1 (about 6 weeks now) and with great results. I have set it up to overclock @240MHz all the time (do a search for the instructions) and it's been stable, quick and with no major impact on battery life.
Since the last ROM update - the JAMin has been stable with no spontaneous soft resets. Just great.
Nir
is the rom-update available for the o2 xda neo, too?
noch nicht wenn es rauskommt findest du es hier...
http://www.o2-online.de/o2/kunden/technikundeinst/exclusive/xda/xdaneo/index.html
The only upgrade you'll get is Imates, qtek s200 or dopods. O2 sucks as far as upgrade concern. Especially in germany. This so called tech support guys still think that you’ll kill the device if you upgrade it! At least this is what they been telling me! The bottom line, get an update, get “fixed” RUU, search forum, and run an update. You’ll loose german rom though unless you back it up using aWizard.
My S200 overclocked about 5 weeks by now. 276 MHz cause spontaneous softreset once or twice per day. 264MHz works fine; it is my current overclock speed. I don’t think it may cause battery drain, but something drains battery randomly. My suspect is Communication Manager.
I'm using smartskey to overclock. When set to 240 it crashes. Anyone knows why? I'm also using O2 and i've made some standard registry hacks (cache size).
264MHz works for me too.
What programs do we use for benchmarking to see what outperforms what
activesync dropout
I can overclock up to 240 but when I connect to active sync 4.1 it keep dropping its conection
Camera problem when overclocking...
When overclocking above 234 Hz w/ BatteryStatus or 216 with Omapclock,... I get strange dots and color in camera...
Anyone having same problem?
Well in the topic about upgrading to one of the latest roms I saw a lot of people having problems with the camera and overclocking. So it seems to be happening when overclocking for sure. Not much you can do about it except clocking it back when you want to use the camera
I have the same Problem. Thats why I use applicationbased clocking with Batteriestatus, setting Kamera and Coolcamera to 195 mHz.
cu seneca
Yeah, same here btw totally forgot to mention that.
I use batterystatus with the CPUscaler option on. At the moment I have it automaticly scaled up to 221mhz when needed. But indeed all the camera apps have it set back at 195.
Not quite sure to what speed I can go safely. Mostly need somewhat more speed with the navigation on in the car. Although that uses the device 100% for sometimes hours. So since most of the people go up to 240 I just though 220 might be a safe number No problems so far.
Anyway, I'm interested in making it a little bit faster. But an overclock of over 20% just seems too much (or too good to be true )...
seneca said:
I have the same Problem. Thats why I use applicationbased clocking with Batteriestatus, setting Kamera and Coolcamera to 195 mHz.
cu seneca
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Uppss, ... sounds great. But I can not find any applicationbased clocking in my BatteryStatus plug-in.... What else do I need?
Thanks in advance.
Jarel
I have a O2 Neo. and currently is overclocked at 260 mhz. no problem so far.
Uppss, ... sounds great. But I can not find any applicationbased clocking in my BatteryStatus plug-in.... What else do I need?
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You need the Version BatteryStatusPlus.Beta1.0.03.zip of BatterieStatusPlugin at the first Message of this Thread
cu seneca
Thanks Seneca...
I had the non.beta version installed, thus not having those options... Is this Beta version stable/well-proven? Why don't they ibnclude this functionaility in the "definitive" non-beta version?
Thanks again, great forum and great support!
Jarel
After finishing the Beta Phase, it will be included in an extendet Version.
On my NEO/Qtek it is very stable. But read the Thread. There are the answers.
cu seneca
With respect to overclocking it has been stable for a long time. With regards to other features they appear to be stable, hence the change to beta status.
The only question is how high you can overclock your specific device. You will need to use trial and error. Note that as the device get hot, the max overclock speed drops. It's a physics thing.
jarel said:
Thanks Seneca...
I had the non.beta version installed, thus not having those options... Is this Beta version stable/well-proven? Why don't they ibnclude this functionaility in the "definitive" non-beta version?
Jarel
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Hi guys!
I see that my Jamin is stable at 240MHZ... what is, in your opinion, the hi stable overclock for the Jamin... ?
O2 Neo
Hi, i run my O2 Neo at 240 stable. I'll probably try even 252. It's summer so I wouldn't push it higher than that. 252 could be stable, but depends on conditions. Just try it for few days.
Running at 240 MHz, it the battery life MUCH reduced than using factory 200 MHz speed?
My opinion - 'Sligtly' is more accurate then MUCH. But i didn't measure it.
252 MHz for 2 month on my XDA Neo with JAMin ROM, without any problem. Battery life is good, did not really see any difference before and after overlocking.
Well, I have been running my wizard at 264 MHz for 4 months straight and it has never failed on me. i have it on all the time after standby and soft resets. ive also tried 276MHz for a while but i had to soft reset it almost twice a day.
BTW, increasing the clock higher than usual does not heat up your device. the most it would do is soft reset it. temperature running at 264mhz is mostly the same as running at factory speed. (well for me it has) dont know about some of you.
lsnizzle said:
BTW, increasing the clock higher than usual does not heat up your device. the most it would do is soft reset it. temperature running at 264mhz is mostly the same as running at factory speed. (well for me it has) dont know about some of you.
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How do ya measure the temp?
cellchamp said:
How do ya measure the temp?
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Xbar can do it
Overclok on Dopod 818pro
Guys, my device is Dopod 818pro, and i was using OmapClock.exe to OvClock my processor, but, when the first time i run this program, the clock speed, says 264 Mhz? is it supposed to be the correct Processor Speed?
I got confused as i read anywhere else that the default factory speed is only at 180 Mhz.
But why is it my device gives me a 264 Mhz on Clock Speed?
also i've tried all the guides and tricks to keep my Clock Speed at certain number (eg. 216 Mhz). such as using a MemMaid and etc. but still, i always got the number 264 Mhz and it won't change at all... neither after soft-reset nor stand-by.
Anyone got the same problems?
I forgot to mention, when the first time i bought this 818pro, i felt that my device run very fast, even faster than my friends HP 6828 and ATOM PURE. Did i get lucky or sumthin'?
Everything on my device is still on factory setting...
i removed the OmapClock and Other Utility Software..
also..... there is one more sw.... 'Pocket Hack Master' from http://www.antontomov.com.... have a look whether it has compatiblity with URs.....
might be helpful.....
Mine has been stable at 240MHz for 2 months so about 6 weeks ago I bumped it to 252MHz and is stable since.
Nir
thanks! :wink:
Re: Overclok on Dopod 818pro
p12a said:
Guys, my device is Dopod 818pro, and i was using OmapClock.exe to OvClock my processor, but, when the first time i run this program, the clock speed, says 264 Mhz? is it supposed to be the correct Processor Speed?
I got confused as i read anywhere else that the default factory speed is only at 180 Mhz.
But why is it my device gives me a 264 Mhz on Clock Speed?
also i've tried all the guides and tricks to keep my Clock Speed at certain number (eg. 216 Mhz). such as using a MemMaid and etc. but still, i always got the number 264 Mhz and it won't change at all... neither after soft-reset nor stand-by.
Anyone got the same problems?
I forgot to mention, when the first time i bought this 818pro, i felt that my device run very fast, even faster than my friends HP 6828 and ATOM PURE. Did i get lucky or sumthin'?
Everything on my device is still on factory setting...
i removed the OmapClock and Other Utility Software..
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Try installing the demo of sktools - its the only program I know that shows the true processor speed.
i did over clock to my device into 240, and it's works normally, but i don't know how to know that my overclocking was success or not, where can i read the speed of processor after overclocked?
rGrds
-wisnu-
how do i keep my device permanently on at a certain speed thgough omapclock?
also i would like the overlock to work at the set speed even after soft resets. Is this possible?
cellchamp said:
how do i keep my device permanently on at a certain speed thgough omapclock?
also i would like the overlock to work at the set speed even after soft resets. Is this possible?
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Yes you can 2 simple methods here
1. Using omapclockplus - see here http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=56057
2. Use batterystatus plugin - displays Mhz on today screen and has omap functions inc device wakeup overclocking see here http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=55782
You could also use smartskey or notification queue method but above methods use easy install cabs.
median said:
My opinion - 'Sligtly' is more accurate then MUCH. But i didn't measure it.
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Just tried - I agree, there is no big difference in battery life - similar autonomy than factory settings when running at 240 MHz...
Hi,
I really don't recommand to overclock the prophet over 240mhz.
I overclocked my first prophet @252mhz.
I had no crash problem with this overclocking, but it burned the bluetooth chipset.
Now i have a new one and have a permanent overclock @216mhz, and sometimes i overclock it @240mhz, but usually it' only to do some tests!
The 216mhz is more than enough to do what i want.
Bye
Herc. 8)
Guys,
I just clocked my 9100 to 264mhz and its running very stable and fast. Howver Id really like to have a small test program that can tell me exactly how many mhz its actually running at.
Who's got a small application that can tell me the speed in mhz ??
I use BatteryStatus.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=55782&highlight=batterystatus
You can also use a product like SKTools which is a great util for WM devices.
HTH!
Thanks dude......Im apparently running at 286mhz......even though Ive only clocked it to 264
Which application did you use to overclock your CPU? I've tried OmapClock (and went upto 220MHz), but it freezes frequently...
not all wizards can go much beyond 240, mine is fine at 240 but my friends only goes to 220MHz without crashing.
Luck of the draw i guess
guess i got lucky... constantly @276 and stable...
Hello,
I changed a little while ago my device from a Prophet to a Trinity (mainly because of the bad Prophet Processor overlocked at 140...)
But I'm feeling quite disapointed with the Trim as even basic action take as much time as before with the prophet... moreover, I tried some game from Resco which are lagging as hell.
I was expecting better.
Now I just looked into TCPMP oprtion and I'm seeing that the Proc clock is 100 mhz... sometime it reach 404 Mhz but it almost always 99 ~ 100 Mhz. What the hell ?
Is there some good program to monitor that behavior. Any idea of what could be the problem?
I already tweaked the device by removing animations and I also removed all heavy today plugins like SPB pocket plus...
Thanks !
try Xcpuscalar
works great u can eahter adjust the cpu speed yourself, or u can select auto scale with cpu load, and let the device decide when to provide a fast cpu (when doing a lot of things) or a slow (when just standing in standby, and save battery)
If i am not mistaken current version of Xcpuscalar does not support the Samsung CPU.
i know this might b a stupid question and a question that has been asked alot... i did a search and couldnt find an answer but my question is what is the highest you overclocked your phone and it was stable? im currently running at 240 stable and im sure this will answer alot of questions for anybody who is new to overclocking thx in advanced
dont really think that that many people push it to the max
as both ram speed and sd ram interface being a much bigger bottleneck then cpu
so overclock is more likely to cost precious batt time then anything usefull
I've noticed that my MDA becomes unstable after 230 or so. I'm using an old 1.08 IPL/SPL rom if that has anything to do with it. I have Battery Status so I just use the CPU scaler and it works pretty well.
I'm running @ 232 and have been for months with no noticeable additional battery drain. Running a more-or-less stock WM5.
When i have some high quality video files or a bit more complex software that wizard can't handle at standard frequency (like quake), i run it @260MHZ without any problems. I went up to 273MHz a few times, and it worked fine with TCPMP, but i never used this setting for more than about 20 minutes. When i used different programs (not only the video player) and switched between them (read: normal pda use) i had a few system frezes @273MHz, so i don't consider it a safe setting
I use Battery Status to scale between 147 to 247 with boost set to 260. I have never once in 4 months had it lock up. I use a very stable rom though so that has to help. When using other less stable roms I was getting lock ups often.
Jeff