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XDA IIi Released Today on O2 UK Website
www.o2.co.uk for £249.99 with 12mnth contract
Does anyone know if Orange UK will be releasing it soon?
XDA IIi
I know i got one yipeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee :lol:
if anyone would like me to rip the rom i will need a step by step guide ?
XDA lli 1.3MP Camera
Please post high resolution sample pictures taken from your XDA lli in bright daylight and using night mode, if you can.
Regards
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I DONT SEE IT?:?::::???
Where is the xda2i i don't see it anywere on the o2 site.
ok
ok i saw it but its not yet available
have been waiting for this for along time think its time to order one
*goes to call up vodafone to get his PAC code*
The release of this newer version could have been what enabled me to get my regular Xda II for such a good price.
Xda IIi camera pic
Here as requested pic's taken this morning, apologies i am no David Bailey. i would add the battery life is better on the XDAII but be greatful for small murphies i say lol
Please!!!!!!!! post pictures of IIi box and its contents as well. Thanks!
That's really strange. The pictures really look like they've been interpolated from QVGA - especially picture 2. My QV-10 from 1996 takes better images. I wonder if this is a software problem, or O2 are plain lying about the camera's physical capability?
XDA lli Camera pics
Thankx B
I thought the 1.3MP module @ full resolution gives 1280x960 pixels.
Can you confirm if it was set to full. The images seem to be 940x480.
Bless
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imho then they should start using DCC camara chips
those CMOS is much worse quality imho
raising the mpixels dont help
when the colour is stiff off it still suffer from
lightsensitivity
and general grainy image quality
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my firefox says.. that the pix are only 640x480
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camera quality oops
sorry peeps you are quite right it was set to 640x480 will try again tommorow and will take some pictures
please make some pix from the box
pics of box and contents
Here as requested pics of box and contents.
it's so much look like our XDA II. How about the battery, what's the power voltage like, was it like the XDA 2 with only 1200MaH? Btw, is it the same battery as XDA 2?
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burned2k said:
sorry peeps you are quite right it was set to 640x480 will try again tommorow and will take some pictures
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Man it was the hottest the XDA. How much you get it for? I guess it's going to cost a bomb down here in SG. Is it possible to get it there for me?What's the price for contract and non-contract basis there?
thks.
maxtro said:
it's so much look like our XDA II. How about the battery, what's the power voltage like, was it like the XDA 2 with only 1200MaH? Btw, is it the same battery as XDA 2?
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Battery is 1300mAH
Uploaded to a new thread cos they were screwing up another thread on a different topic...
The comparison camera: My 4 year-old Canon Ixus 300
This is how far behind the pace the Universal's camera is... :roll:
Lets be honest though, the universal isnt really marketed for having a great camera. Its good for taking quite snapshots, but if your are that serious about taking pictures, get a nokia N90 or a digital camera. Its not really the camera what is bad, its just the really bad, plastic lens what is.
Can your 4 year old Ixus make phone calls, browse the web, check your emails, listen to music, watch movies?!?!
I was going to post comparisons about how far behind my alienware laptop my Universal is when playing Halflife, but I couldn't get it to run on my Universal :lol:
lol - OK, don't take this out of context please.
Someone in another thread was curious about the camera's abilities,
so I posted these pics as an illustration, but they screwed up the other
thread so I moved them to a new one. (See? They're even screwing
up this one too! ) Maybe the pics are useful for people who are
curious about the Universal's camera.
The camera quality isn't the reason why someone would buy the
Universal (understatement of the year!), but people will be interested
to know just how good/bad it is. This thread is an objective
demonstration just for them. 8)
I carry a nice 3.2 MPx Casio Exilim S100 - small, loads of useful features and otherwise fills the camera niche. The Exec replaced my P900 + x50v setup. I now use the x50v for development testing.
No probs for me using the universal for photos!!
Sorry guys. I'm quite happy with my jasjar for photos (considering it ain't a dedicated digitl camera!!)
I'm sure that HTC could really put a better camera on the Universal and in all WM devices; the problem is that they don't care ....they have so much space that they can put the K750 i sonyericsson camera module :lol:
If you have a look at the first comparison shots at the top of the kitchen, the Universal shot is clearer than the canon shot, look at the clock on the stove, the universal shot is clearer, you can hardly read the canon pic.
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mackaby007 said:
Sorry guys. I'm quite happy with my jasjar for photos (considering it ain't a dedicated digitl camera!!)
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woah!!!!!! this is realllllllyyyy gooooddd!!!!
I guess its built to handle outdoors really well!
@seal
the point is, they are taken at different resolutions....what you need to see in the comparison is, the color quality and richness....!
San
Yes you are right there.....
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@seal
the point is, they are taken at different resolutions....what you need
to see in the comparison is, the color quality and richness....!
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No no no!
Two of the pictures (the small ones) are taken at the same resolution
so that we can directly compare them! The Canon shot is a thumbnail.
Click on it to get the 640x480 version to match the 640x480 Universal
pic.
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SiliconS said:
dreamtheater39 said:
@seal
the point is, they are taken at different resolutions....what you need
to see in the comparison is, the color quality and richness....!
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No no no!
Two of the pictures (the small ones) are taken at the same resolution
so that we can directly compare them! The Canon shot is a thumbnail.
Click on it to get the 640x480 version to match the 640x480 Universal
pic.
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i think you just added the 640x480 version recently by editing your post didnt you??
we just had the 1280pic from the universal, and the 640pic from your canon....of course....until you edited it unless....there was a problem with my browser!
Cheers!
S
[quote="The camera quality isn't the reason why someone would buy the
Universal (understatement of the year!), but people will be interested
to know just how good/bad it is. This thread is an objective
demonstration just for them. 8)[/quote]
If thats the case, then its alright. I dont like people dissin the device cos it doesn't take great pictures. No device on the market does what the jasjar can do, n i dare someone to argue with me on that
Sorry if we hijacked your thread.
can somebody post more pictures??? especially those taken with bad lighting conditions....
a couple pics in pitch dark, with the flash turned on...along with night mode on would be great too!
@universal
Noone would argue with you for sure you sure love your device!!!
San
universaldoc said:
.. No device on the market does what the jasjar can do, n i dare someone to argue with me on that
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Mate you should see the quality of pictures from the SE K750i they are really fantastic. Also the K750's battery lasts my wife 7 days and it is on 24hrs a day. So no competition for the JJ/Exec but makes you think
Like universaldoc wrote there is no other device like the universal, some phones might have a better camera but can they log into your computer on the other side of the world and fully control it..... The answer is clearly NO....... What is being said here is the Universal, despite its little problem, is a Phone/PDA in one that does is all. We will have better in the future but at this present time there is no comparison to anything Ericsson can make and that goes for in the future with Ericsson.
@seal, I know what is being said but not everyone wants all the features of the Universal. For me I still to use my PSP for videos over my Exec and I prefer the music reproduction of my Nokia 9500 (OGG) and Palm LifeDrive (DRM) over the Exec; the Exec music reproduction is very bass light.
I think that the camera is pretty ok with right settings...
@jah,
I agree that the camera is better on the SE K750i, probably the best after the Sharp V203SH.
But i just feel that it is rather unfair to diss the Universal based on the camera. As i have said before, if camera is a criteria for considering the universal, then i am speechless.
Just to make myself clear, i would have purchased the universal even if it did NOT have a camera
Could anybody inform me of the changes with camera performance with the new update? (other than auto flash and geotagging)
How fast is it to load and focus? what are the images like?
All reviews i have read are based on the old software, so wondering if those reviews would have been much better if using newer firmware?
Any samples?
Many Thanks.
Here you go.. photos taken in Hamburg yesterday with my X1, smabergs 6.0 ROM with the new Camera and HTC Camera..
Same place, different app:
R3A: http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/5708/dsc0025a.jpg
HTC: http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/240/imag0004f.jpg
I don't know if it's a problem with smabergs ROM, but focusing takes ~1-2s and then after ~8-10s the picture is taken.. terribly slow for me.
A collection from last weekend using the different focus methods.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/artesea/tags/blicklinghall/
Doesn't seem to be too slow
phenx said:
Here you go.. photos taken in Hamburg yesterday with my X1, smabergs 6.0 ROM with the new Camera and HTC Camera..
Same place, different app:
R3A: http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/5708/dsc0025a.jpg
HTC: http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/240/imag0004f.jpg
I don't know if it's a problem with smabergs ROM, but focusing takes ~1-2s and then after ~8-10s the picture is taken.. terribly slow for me.
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i like the one with HTC better the X1 got some horizontal lines
but i dont know :S i thin i will stay at the xperia Camera
artesea said:
A collection from last weekend using the different focus methods.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/artesea/tags/blicklinghall/
Doesn't seem to be too slow
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these pictures are never taken by the Xperia Camera xD
By the way, I was searching in R3A cam the self-timer / autotimer / automatic release, didn´t find it. Can anybody help, or is this basic function missing?
thanks for the samples, dont look too bad.
But 10 secs to take a photo is really slow! anybody else experiencing this?
after a softreset, speed of the camera is back to normal.. 1-2s
Really 8 - 10 secs to take a shot ???
1- could be the SAT link time
2- could be the flash charge time
I am pleased with the results, it is not a PRO camera: it's a phone with camera and I don't expect PRO pics
IMHO it makes decent (not "brilliant" or "great") shots
I took this one with zero adjustments, just grabed phone from pocket and shot:
If I need better shots, I take my cybershot with me
There are some things I'd like to point out, I purchased from mobicity and I'm here to confirm some things about my X2.
1) Firmware: (Official release?)
Software ID 1231-7617
Software version R1AA-097
Customization version R5A
Language region Generic_SG
Radio 6.5.60221
2) Keyboard backlight lags and takes 5 seconds to light up after sliding.
3) Keyboard feels really light and plastic..
4) When sliding out keyboard, it doesn't have a heavy metal feel like the X1. Is this just the new feel of the X2?
5) It was said on wmpoweruser.com that X2 will be running windows mobile 6.5.3, I don't see any 6.5.3... or the start at the bottom of the screen.
6) Speaker volumes are quite soft, nowhere as loud as X1 with audiopara volume booster.. wondering if audiopara will work on X2?
7) Choppy video recording
8) Nice landscape pictures with 8,1 megapixel, BUT autofocus fails like X1 for up-close objects.
9) Less blurry than X1, but still blurry
That's all for now, will keep testing the X2.
I believe WMPoweruser said that the upgrade may come in the future, but all the shipping X2s will have plain 'ole WM 6.5 on them.
WM 6.5.3 wa first officially presented at CES
few days ago.
So you won't have it now.
So in terms of build quality, is the X2 better or the X1 better?
The thing I hate the most about HTC phones (X1 inclusive) is that they all feel cheap.
I can come to 4 conclusions about the X2:
X2 has better keyboard
X2 has faster/smoother graphics
X2 looks dam sexy
X2 gives me bragging rights
Everything else is available on X1 that X2 has, so if your a cheapo and want value for your buck, stick with X1.
royalbloodvi said:
I can come to 4 conclusions about the X2:
X2 has better keyboard
X2 has faster/smoother graphics
X2 looks dam sexy
X2 gives me bragging rights
Everything else is available on X1 that X2 has, so if your a cheapo and want value for your buck, stick with X1.
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How is the camera, please?
royalbloodvi said:
I can come to 4 conclusions about the X2:
X2 has better keyboard
X2 has faster/smoother graphics
X2 looks dam sexy
X2 gives me bragging rights
Everything else is available on X1 that X2 has, so if your a cheapo and want value for your buck, stick with X1.
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Thanks. Please report further info!!!
Software ID 1231-7617
Software version R1AA-097
Customization version R5A
Language region Generic_SG
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Same as our leaked official firmware Good sign.
Camera is the same as X1, laggy, blurry.
Tried infinite focus, macro, twiddled all the settings.
Very disappointed, actually I would say no difference in quality as X1.
Autofocus function just seems useless, cant even take medium to close quality pictures of anything.
X2 maybe 8.1 megapixels, but to me its just a number after testing it out.
I can come to one conclusion, image quality output are the same as X1..
Royal-b:
Thanks a lot for all the information. All of us really appreciate it.
I'm not sure how valuable this suggestion is, but it would be very interesting: could you run the sk tools benchmark and report the values? I think that would at least tell us whether SE tried to optimize performance.
I'm not highly optimistic that they did; my suspicion is that software development money for the X2 when into making the facade more slick, at the expense of optimizing performance. The camera issues seem to be case in point.
royalbloodvi said:
Camera is the same as X1, laggy, blurry.
Tried infinite focus, macro, twiddled all the settings.
Very disappointed, actually I would say no difference in quality as X1.
Autofocus function just seems useless, cant even take medium to close quality pictures of anything.
X2 maybe 8.1 megapixels, but to me its just a number after testing it out.
I can come to one conclusion, image quality output are the same as X1..
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This is very bad news. Besides the Megapixel count, X2's camera seemed to have better lens than X1, and supposedly they've made a good camera on the Satio...
Please let us know if you get around this somehow or have a different judgment after some use...
Honsetly for the price of the X1 and X2 are phones should of came with cyber shot with are cameras.
From GSMArena preview:
"The image quality is surprisingly good for a prototype - we are quite convinced that the XPERIA X2 will be equal or even better than the one of Sony Ericsson C905 Cyber-shot. All the colors are accurate, there's no over-sharpening or purple fringing, white balance is adequate, the resolved detail is pretty enough with foliage looking especially good. It's only that we believe the resolved detail could be somewhat better and we guess that Sony Ericsson will work a bit more on this until the release."
So where is the problem...?
Problem is he has the latest X2 and says the camera is as bad as any HTC's (X1), which are normally quite bad, as my Kaiser's...
We (I, at least) were expecting a Cybershot/Nokia/Satio like quality, which unfortunately does not seem to be the case. From your posts I assume you are buying the X2 as soon as it gets out in Poland in the 18th. Just hope you have a better experience(and please inform us, post some pics etc)... I am very willing to buy the X2, but a bad camera can be a deal breaker for me.
Some photos, that i shoot with xperia x2
sony-ericsson.ru/forums2/index.php?showtopic=57604
You can see it at the end of the page.
The camera is realy good.
mbernstein said:
I am very willing to buy the X2, but a bad camera can be a deal breaker for me.
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Yeah, I don't get why no one can put a semi-decent camera in a WM phone. Actually, the X1's is good but they did not optimize the software. If motorola continues including good quality cameras (like apparently the Droid and maybe here), I'm tempted to cross over.
mbernstein said:
Problem is he has the latest X2 and says the camera is as bad as any HTC's (X1), which are normally quite bad, as my Kaiser's...
We (I, at least) were expecting a Cybershot/Nokia/Satio like quality, which unfortunately does not seem to be the case. From your posts I assume you are buying the X2 as soon as it gets out in Poland in the 18th. Just hope you have a better experience(and please inform us, post some pics etc)... I am very willing to buy the X2, but a bad camera can be a deal breaker for me.
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Well I won't buy that on 18th just because of lack of cash
But hopefully soon after!
And yes, will report than!
ru.ego said:
Some photos, that i shoot with xperia x2
sony-ericsson.ru/forums2/index.php?showtopic=57604
The camera is realy good.
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great report from X2 there, thanks!
ru.ego said:
Some photos, that i shoot with xperia x2
sony-ericsson.ru/forums2/index.php?showtopic=57604
You can see it at the end of the page.
The camera is realy good.
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Thanks. Google translations is sometimes difficult, but seems to be a pretty nice review, nice screen captures. Some photos are nice. I hope people post more so we can keep checking. Thanks.
ring-bearer,
sk tools benchmark results (pre-realize firmware R1AD002)
Integer;268.3021;Moves/25 usec
Floating point;7.322;MWIPS
RAM access;548;Speed index
Draw bitmaps;780;Speed index
Main storage (write);1535.62;KB/sec
Main storage (read);7119.35;KB/sec
Storage Card (write); 980.53;KB/sec
Storage Card (read);1123.83;KB/sec
File List;1344;Items/s
FL: Storage Card;728;Items/s
SKTools loading;4048;ms
it would be very interesting, to see the official (R1AA-097) firmware values.
Hey folks!
I´m one of the most enthusiastic Streak user within us (coming from an HD2 ) and I´m loving my new phone...
BUT: As all of you surely know, the camera is a not-so-funny-joke compared to phones like the HD2. So after many months where nobody has talked about this, my question is: What are your solutions/workaraounds for better pictures?
I´ve just tried the obvious: camera360 & MagicHour. But no, it doesn´t make it much better.
Last but not least: Is there some hope e.g. for getting some better drivers? Hope dies last, I´m praying for some very kind devs with similar intentions
Hmmm everyone knows the Streak's camera is no great and I think this has to do with the camera module itself. Look at HTC's camera, they mostly suck especially in low light conditions and in video recording at night - till now even if there is a great amount of developpers working on htc phones, no one has successfully modded them. And to tell you the truth, considering that the Streak is not that popular for modders, chances are really really weak that someone will work on it.
I think Sony Ericsson X10/Arc/N8/Infuse/Mytouch4G Slide are among the best camera phone if I'm not mistaken.
Final5k said:
Hmmm everyone knows the Streak's camera is no great and I think this has to do with the camera module itself. Look at HTC's camera, they mostly suck especially in low light conditions and in video recording at night - till now even if there is a great amount of developpers working on htc phones, no one has successfully modded them. And to tell you the truth, considering that the Streak is not that popular for modders, chances are really really weak that someone will work on it.
I think Sony Ericsson X10/Arc/N8/Infuse/Mytouch4G Slide are among the best camera phone if I'm not mistaken.
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i also agree. sony ericsson and nokia always best in camera. i also own a streak 5. but my old nokia 6600 slide is 10times better quality photo thn streak though its only 3.2 MP.
I find the Streak's camera is perfect for quick shots, but prefer using my three-year old digital camera since its CCD sensor is larger than the one in the Streak.
With Camera360, the photos come out with a quality more pleasing to the eyes than the stock camera. It's ok to take photos if you are not picky about quality but don't expect jaw-dropping photos!
My fav camera phone goes definitely to the Nokia N8 and Sony Satio/X10 - they maybe a bit old, but when you take photos or videos, you can show them to everyone since the quality is high above than most smartphones!
I use a proper camera if I want to take proper photographs, the Streak is handy for the odd snapshot but it's a phone/tablet device, not a camera.
Yeah, my solution to poor phone cameras is to not use them. If the Streak didn't have a camera I wouldn't miss it.
Sent from my Dell Streak using XDA Premium App
try lg camera port.. work better than the original... thats "better", it doesnt work miracles though
djscopesofm said:
try lg camera port.. work better than the original... thats "better", it doesnt work miracles though
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May I ask you which LG port you mean? The one from this thread?
not 100% but that might be it