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SE X1 a true iPod replacement?

Hello Guys or should I say lucky X1 owners.
Please tell me if this is a true iPod replacement I am not comparing this to iPod but the reason is a follows.
I used to have Qtek S100 and after a little music being played on it gets hotter (very hot really) and battery lasts for very few hours (not a whole day). As being this windows mobile at its core I would like to know if X1 suffers the same problems? Please tell me if you can play long hours of audio tones???
Kind Regards
Abbas

Very fair question:
The Ipod is unique, but not perfect because the limitation from apple.
Just to mention 2 things:
*You can not get your music from any place you like, must be from itunes
* No stereo bluetooth
Xperia has a powerful battery 1500 mah specs call for up 10 hrs talking time,
and up 800 hrs standby. But How long just playing music, turning off
everything else?

Well the question is not about features or limitation of a product, the question is does a device do a job which is an end user intend to do.
Has any of the X1 owner litlary played 2/3 hours of continues music and what was the battery status? also was the phone back burning?

abbasean said:
Well the question is not about features or limitation of a product, the question is does a device do a job which is an end user intend to do.
Has any of the X1 owner litlary played 2/3 hours of continues music and what was the battery status? also was the phone back burning?
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I got a good 12h of continuous playback in 1 charge. Pretty good comparing to my old W850i that had about 10h playback. And the back was not hot on the X1.

emwdava said:
I got a good 12h of continuous playback in 1 charge. Pretty good comparing to my old W850i that had about 10h playback. And the back was not hot on the X1.
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12 hours of CONTINUOUS music? I'm sorry, I have to call BS on this one. No way, no how, not in a million years.

Black93300ZX said:
12 hours of CONTINUOUS music? I'm sorry, I have to call BS on this one. No way, no how, not in a million years.
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...why?...

Actually I am seeing similar times. This however only when I shut off UMTS and dont do anything power-intensive (GPS, Wifi etc).
At the moment my battery is good enough for a 45 min TV episode, about 20 mins of GPRS/UMTS surfing (checking emails) and about 6-7 hours of music.

it works okay, but its no iPod. Just not snappy enough.

My power lasts for using and playback of two tv episodes (2x ~45 min) and still have over 50 % left. My old atom life was after the same by about 25 % battery left. 3G is allways on. So 10 h music playback with screen turned off is I think absolutely possible. The battery of the X1 is great, SE did a great job here!

How is the volume and bass with headphones on the Xperia?

Equaliser?
Can anyone confirm if there is a sound equaliser on X1?

i use my x1 instead of my ipod. the battery consumption is low (imo).
to boost my soundexperience i just installed the "SRS WOW HD" driver .cab.
unfortunatly i forgot my earplugs at my girlfriends place and have to wait till tomorrow to test it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=355725
- QuadWord

Black93300ZX said:
12 hours of CONTINUOUS music? I'm sorry, I have to call BS on this one. No way, no how, not in a million years.
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Why not?
From Touch HD's review on SlashGear - http://www.slashgear.com/htc-touch-hd-slashgear-review-part-2-0721942/
With continuous audio playback, the Touch HD lasted around fifteen hours before playback ended.
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15 hours, taking in mind Xperia's smaller screen and bigger battery, 12 hours shouldn't be a problem...

I was gonna say the same, I get about 8 hours w/ BT Stereo on,and texting in the middle, along with a two or three quick 20 min calls on my Touch Pro.
Plus Sony has always been good with battery life, although not sure if I can say its Sonys or HTCs work this time around o_o.
The xperia makes as a nice ipod alternative I'm sure. but you need a hefty card to really make it ipod replaceable.

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Can anyone confirm if there is a sound equaliser on X1?
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not yet, when the audiobooster from HD is working then there will be.
Unfortunately SRS WOW HD doesn't work here.

Sounds brilliant if you use CorePlayer IMO.
Also with 8GB cards as cheap as £12.99 I should be able to fit a decent amount of music on it. Or at a push 16GB cards are around £40.
I never planned to use my X1 for music but it blows my Sony Walkman MP3 player out of the water, and that was the best quality I had heard on an MP3 player.
The catch is even CorePlayer is not exactly the best interface for choosing your tracks. Its also a bit crap that you can't listen to the radio and do something else, as the radio is only available via one of the panels and so turns off when you try to get into something else.

Alex Atkin UK said:
Its also a bit crap that you can't listen to the radio and do something else, as the radio is only available via one of the panels and so turns off when you try to get into something else.
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The Radio player only stops when you change panels. I've managed to read SMS and browser the internet at the same time as listening to Radio 4.

Panel vs Radio Panel
artesea said:
The Radio player only stops when you change panels. I've managed to read SMS and browser the internet at the same time as listening to Radio 4.
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Hi, its maybe just me, you said Radio player stops when you change panels but then how you managed to listen the read SMS and browser while listening the Radio 4??? I believe to read SMS and browse you have to change the panel don't you?

Whilst in the Radio panel you have the two softkeys / touch screen to open Contacts or Web and at the top left you have Start and top right you have the task man to switch to different apps.
Currently have some random local station and the BBC website running.

Music play in HTC HD and diamond?

Hey all,
I wanted to know how can i know music play time in hd and diamond.
Iv'e searched the internet and found nothing.
Thank you.

do you mean the duration of the song or playlist you are currently playing ?

Hey
Not the duration of the song (also how can you know what song is it)
not also playlist
I mean how time you can music on the htc hd and htc diamond, and then the device will be turn off!
See Nokia 5800
He can play 35hours of music. i want to know how much the HD and Diamond (regular old diamond) can play.
Thank you.

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Anyone can help me???
No one answer ):

I don't think that answer is available anywhere. I'll just tell you this, looking at the nokia's standby and talk time and the hd's standby and talktime, it seems that the HD would play maybe a good 2-6 more hours than the nokia time stated, but this all varies. It depends on how you use it (Wifi, phone, gps, etc) and your network..
P.S if you guys didn't know what he's talking about, he means battery life for play back of music. Like how some specs show standby time and talk time in battery specs.

Yeah, that's what im talking about.
It's similar to talk time like you said, but it's music time.
2-6 more? how much in total do you think? (Wifi off,blutooh off)
I guess you can't give me an answer because you haven't tested it yet, so i will check myself on my dad HD...
What about the same thing in Diamond?
Some Yeah.
It's similar to talk time, but it's music time.
2-6 more? how much in totall?
Let's say wifi off, blutooh off...
I guess you can't give me an answer because you haven't tested it yet, so i will check myself on my dad HD.
What about the same thing in diamond?
Some introduction:
I need a new cellular and a music player, and im considering these phones:
Nokia n97 - symbian
nokia 5800 - symbian
HTC TOUCH DIAMOND - WM
htc touch hd - WM
Samsung Onmia - WM
IPhone 3g - Apple OS
Iphone 3GS - Apple OS
I guess theres no phone equal to the quality of COWON I7/COWON D2/IPOD TOUCH.
Thank you.

Remember that the stated music playback time of the 5800 is with _all_ wireless connections off including your phone connection! Not available for calls nor can you make calls at the time. Also, it's with the screen off, at the lowest volume through a headset (speaker uses more power). So not very realistic usage for a phone if you ask me.
But if you switch off everything and do the same with the Touch HD I think you would get about 30~32 hours of musictime (screen off, headset and lowest volume). The battery has about the same capacity, 1320 mAh for the nokia, 1350 for the HTC. Symbian runs with a lower powerusage so thats why I think it would be a few hours less for the HTC.

Hey sicknick
I didn't thought about what your saying...
if i dont disable the calls while i listen to music, all other things is off ?
Only calls are on,with the loudest volume,earphones, not via the speaker?
How much do you think?
I dont know if i could get a great musicplayer with a cellular...maybe iphone would be good, i don't know

With a Touch HD I get 10% drain per hour playing music.
With a TD2 I get the same. I can go 9-10hrs playing music. That is with everything off except the phone (3G) but not being used. No bluetooth, gps or wi-fi.
Be warned however, that some people get very poor results from their battery life. There are many threads you can find about this.

Hey
Do you have also diamond? because i don't like the diamond2...
You can disable gps? it's affect the battery while igo isn't running?
Sound intresting if you have 2G and not 3G. i guess i will check it myself...
What do you mean that some people get very poor results from their battery life? why? it's the same device and battery...

efi2222 said:
Hey
Do you have also diamond? because i don't like the diamond2...
You can disable gps? it's affect the battery while igo isn't running?
Sound intresting if you have 2G and not 3G. i guess i will check it myself...
What do you mean that some people get very poor results from their battery life? why? it's the same device and battery...
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GPS only comes on when an application is open that uses GPS otherwise it will be off. While some people have good battery life from various functions of the phone others report bad battery life. It does not seem to be consistent even though the device is the same and the battery same. No idea why.

custardo01 said:
GPS only comes on when an application is open that uses GPS otherwise it will be off. While some people have good battery life from various functions of the phone others report bad battery life. It does not seem to be consistent even though the device is the same and the battery same. No idea why.
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strange...
And what about the diamond?
I will check myself on the HD;altough i guess its music player doesn't come close to COWON I7/COWON D2 ... ):

What I'm struggling to comprehend is why does this matter, if your going to get, for example purposes, 10 hours of playtime on the HD, why would you need more. Do you plan to sit and listen to music 10 hours straight? Surely not, even on holiday if you listen to music by the pool or in the evenings your talking no more than 10 hours required. Just bring a charger. No?
You stated that the nokia 5800 got 30+ hours. Who's going to listen to music for that amount of hours?

How long is SGS able to play mp3?

Hey,
I am thinking about this phone but I have limited budged. Originally I wanted to buy S Omnia II and ipod nano for mp3. Now I discovered this phone which really get me!!! How long can play mp3?

do you mean how long the battery last?
if you play it with wired plug headset it will last you way longer than using Stereo Bluetooth
but even using Stereo Bluetooth, the headset itself will run out of battery before you phone does.
most good Stereo Bluetooth headsets can only last for aprox 6 hours
if you just go by normal wired headset, you can go on almost forever, assuming you don't use 3G / WiFi and keep the screen off when you are listening to MP3
by the way SGS i9000 has a build in FM radio! it's perfect for me

yes, I mean with wired plug...ipod is able to play music about 24 hrs so I want some comparsion with SGS (w/o any other work (with turned off display etc.))

It will be hard to give a definitive answer as it will depend on things like background syncing, what apps you have installed (task managers, widgets, things like that) and what equaliser you have enabled.
Yesterday I went to an airshow, my son played Asphalt 5 for 2 hours in the car, I took about 10 minutes of HD video, checked my email, made a few calls, sent a few texts and had 36% battery when I got home 10 hours later. If you didn't use the screen at all, and maybe had a task manager to kill anything that decided to fire up on it's own (email, market, etc) you could probably get 15+ hours use out of it easily.

I like music, its a thing of mine that I want the best, I have to say I am bit shocked at the player on this phone, its really really good, it is far better than any other phone I have used and the amazing thing I found is that it plays flac files straight out of the box, so get some good phones and you will be very happy...I use Shure 530 and they are great but you need to make sure that your recordings are a good to get the most out of them.

While it's a good thing that iPod can play music non stop for 24 hours with one charge, it should not IMO becomes the yardstick for determining the acceptability of the lesser music player.
I think the fact SGS has a removable battery is another factor you should consider.
If anything, it won't be the battery life that disappoint you. It may be the player itself. If you want a really really good music player, stick with iPod. But remember, it is not a smartphone with 4 inch beautiful screen, with great GPU (if you're also into games especially).

Listening to music drains battery quite fast

Hi,
I recently came across a problem when listening to music on the DHD on stock rom and the newest OTA. When not listening to music I easily get two days on a single charge. When listening the battery is out of juice in around 11 hours, thats way too fast for me... I found out that a process called "mediaserver" is using around 50% of my battery when listening to music for more than 6 hours. HTC Music only takes around 2%. Is that normal, can the mediaserver be stopped? Already killed all of the media applications and cleared their data, also formated the SD card and put all my music back on. There are 1400 songs on that card, all in mp3 or m4a format, nothing else... 11h is a joke compared to the iPod Touch I had before...
Best regards
Oliver

I would just like to say that an ipod touch does not have cellular processes and hardware to drain the battery further.
Just saying that the comparison made may not be the best.
Sent from my Desire HD

Yes, I know that is a bad comparison, but I dont know why the music is draining my battery. The mediaserver seems to be the cause of the problem, but I dont know what it is and what it does. I also dont know how to solve the issue...
Best regards
Oliver

Try using a different music player. The one that is in the rom supports DLNA so it is possible that it tries to share your music with other devices. I have used it to stream music from my pc to my phone, but probably medaserver is the process that streams music from the phone.
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Could it possible be that mediaserver keeps running even when it's not supposed to? I would understand if the mediaserver was running when connected to WiFi and listening to music.
But what do I know? I'm keep using spotify instead of using the built-in player ^^
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Thanks for the replies.
Converted all tracks to mp3 today, so there are no m4a in my playlists anymore. Also renamed some songs with lots of characters, just to make sure everything is fine. Will see if it makes a difference. Are there any recommendations for alternative music players on the DHD?
Regards
Oliver

There is player pro and stock player, rest seem to drain too much battery.
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try Music Mod. i've been using it because the stock music player widget doesn't have a 'previous track' button, and so far it seems to be a better player.

Hi,
tried a different music player yesterday. Sadly, the mediaserver process still needs around 50% of my battery... I really dont know what is causing that problem. Could anyone with a lot of music on the DHD test how much battery the mediaserver needs after playing music for a few hours without pause? Maybe it is normal...
Also, I've read that mediaserver is indexing the sd-card. Maybe there is a corrupt file which causes the problem. How can I narrow it down on specific folders. Can I exclude some folders from indexing?
Best regards
Oliver

Have you tried to listen to your music while phone is in airplane mode?
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Not yet, will try that. Thanks for the hint.
What if the battery lasts longer then, where lies the problem?
Regards

Sadly, activating the flight mode doesnt help. Still drains the battery as much as before...
Any other hints, there must be a solution... A friend of mine tested playback on his DHD, the mediaserver only needs around 10% after a few hours of playback.

I used mine a lots today playing music....a hour and half playing over bluetooth to the car stereo and the way to work then i would say about 12 till 1.30 before dinner and then 3 till about 5.30 play thou exturnal speckers at work...
with a fully charged battery at 04.30 when i left to work till 18.00 when i got to the bed and breakfast and i was down to 68 present battery.

Hi,
thats impressive! Not possible with my DHD. May I ask you how much music you have on your sd-card, any which file types? I feel that there is a corrupted file somewhere in my card, but I dont know how to find it...

Using the hidden battery info tool (*#*#4636#*#*) I found out that the DHD was awake about 80% of the time. That means it doesn't get into sleep mode anymore when listening to music. Also, the back of the phone is getting hotter the longer I listen. Maybe that is the problem...

Mediaserver is a process that is playing back media on android. This includes sound and hardware accelerated video playback. It doesn't actually have anything to do with the internet, its name implies that it "serves media" to Android, to the user, to you.
Kill the mediaserver and you also kill the sound.
Also, it's normal for a phone to not go to sleep when it's playing audio. Something has to feed the mp3 data to the decoder right? In general, phones are not the best for listening to audio since they have to be awake to play it and keeping them awake wastes battery. Keep in mind that an iPod is a music player and has been designed as such so it probably supports a hardware mode to play music where the main processor is not required and can sleep (and not waste battery).

got about 10 albums all mp3, which rom are you using , some manage better then others.
Power management / battery better i mean..

low power music player

Well I use my phone as my music player and I listen to like a good two hours meaning. The wake lock is on for two hours meaning the battery drains so fast, is there anything I can do to prevent this?
holomusic player seems to do this but unfortunately the developer has passed away and I can't get hold of the latest apk anywhere, I'd appreciate it if anyone had it

m4r0v3r said:
Well I use my phone as my music player and I listen to like a good two hours meaning. The wake lock is on for two hours meaning the battery drains so fast, is there anything I can do to prevent this?
holomusic player seems to do this but unfortunately the developer has passed away and I can't get hold of the latest apk anywhere, I'd appreciate it if anyone had it
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This is why I have a wireless charger so I can listen to music for a couple hours every day at the gym. I just keep it on the charger when I'm not using it.

am trying hard to avoid that at the moment lol if theres nothing that really can be done i may just get a dedicated mp3 player. the media server is cause 2 hours of wakelock yet the music player only has an 1 hour wakelock so there maybe a different issue, but ill see

m4r0v3r said:
am trying hard to avoid that at the moment lol if theres nothing that really can be done i may just get a dedicated mp3 player. the media server is cause 2 hours of wakelock yet the music player only has an 1 hour wakelock so there maybe a different issue, but ill see
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mediaserver will always be higher as its used for all media not just music, i.e videos, notification sounds, etc. Basically anything that plays any type of media will call it up.

m4r0v3r said:
Well I use my phone as my music player and I listen to like a good two hours meaning. The wake lock is on for two hours meaning the battery drains so fast, is there anything I can do to prevent this?
holomusic player seems to do this but unfortunately the developer has passed away and I can't get hold of the latest apk anywhere, I'd appreciate it if anyone had it
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http://www.plusmobiles.com/holo-pad-and-holo-music-for-android-you-can-download-it-from-here.html
Not sure if that is the latest one or not. GL

Cheers kpkimmy that's the one. This will replace stock and see how battery life changes from there