Hello everybody. I have a problem with bluetooth on my S200. I can not discover other devices nore can my device be discovered by others. It seems BT is switched off but in the settings I have everything switched on but it still doesn't work. Can somebody tell me how the registry should look like as a standard with bluetooth switched on and device set to discoverable? Perhaps something has been changed by installing some programs.
Willem
I've been looking around these forums for a while now trying to find a solution to the Orange/rSAP issue, and have finally found a solution...
I've basically just combined the instructions from various posts about various things to make this work, so i'll include all the info i found and try to credit people where necessary - apologies in advance if i've forgotten any, but i looked through so many threads and pages it was unbelievable!
Anyway, this is basically a step by step for getting your Orange SPV M3100 (and probably any Hermes/TyTn variance that has had remote SIM access removed by the provider) to work with a rSAP enabled accessory (the VW Passatt Bluetooth Premium kit in my case).
First, you need to change the TyTn's bluetooth identity to be a phone, or the rSAP accessory will not recognise it (funnily enough, bluetooth rSAP car kits don't look for pocket PCs). Here's how:
Download PHM RegEdit - it is important to use this exact program as due to Orange's stupid application locking it is the only registry editor i have found that can be installed.
Next, edit the following value:
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Bluetooth\SY S]
"COD"=dword:52020C (hex)
Bear in mind the new dword is a Hex value, so be sure to select "Hexadecimal" from the Base menu.
For reference (in case something messes up), heres the original value (the Pocket PC identifier):
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Bluetooth\SY S]
"COD"=dword:1048852 (decimal)
Next, soft reset. For some reason i had to restart, change the value again (as it had reset itself), backup the registry and soft reset again for the change to take effect. God knows why, couldnt be arsed to figure it out.
Once this is done, you need to unlock and mount the phone's ROM. The easiest way i've found to do this is using the Fit4Cat Hermes Tweaker. The download will most likely require a forum signup, but its free so what the hey...
Use the hermes tweaker to unlock and mount the ROM, save and restart.
When the TyTn has restarted, if its worked you will see an Extended ROM volume in file explorer.
These files need to go in there helmi_c's SAP Test cab (you will need to unRAR first).
This was taken from the following thread: Helmi BA WM2k5 AKU3.2 Beta (v.1.3 Beta)
Cheers for that, helmi! You are a genius
After that, restart. If you do NOT have a new application in your Programs directory called SAPSettings, go into your Extended ROM and install helmi's btsap_test.cab file manually, then restart.
You should now have SAPSettings working fully:- just go into the app, click the enable button and away you go!
I hope this works for everyone, its worked on the 3 M3100s and the O2 XDA Exec ive tried it on so far with no problems so hopfully all is good.
Please post up your results here - itd be good to know the outcome
Cheers,
-JD-
Thank you
At last - I too am trawlling through these forums trying to put together a SAP package for the M3100.
Just one thing for the amateur here - how do you "unRAR" a file???
Thank you
p.s. I dont suppose you know if this will work on aC600 too??? I'll try it when I get a moment..
Better get a CIngular ROM and u hv built in SAP app
hdubli said:
Better get a CIngular ROM and u hv built in SAP app
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That may be, but not if your pocket pc is company owned.
I should think that a lot of people wanting rSAP will have businessmobiles and probably business phone contracts too. Installing non-orange ROMs on an orange business contract pocket pc is NOT a good idea...hence this way around.
Theres always a reason
p4uly said:
At last - I too am trawlling through these forums trying to put together a SAP package for the M3100.
Just one thing for the amateur here - how do you "unRAR" a file???
Thank you
p.s. I dont suppose you know if this will work on aC600 too??? I'll try it when I get a moment..
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To unRAR....get a copy of winRAR to unarchive the package
and i should thing the aC600 would work too as long as its on a WM5 Orange ROM.
Cheers,
-JD-
Same Problem with my VPA3 compact III and FWD Audio com
Hi all,
i´ve the same problem.
My CarKit "FWD audio com" won´t connect via SAP with my HERM200 Vodafone 1606 VPA 3 compact III. It always connect via 4 Char Code for talking. SAP Code (16 Char´s) won´t ask and so i´m not able to use the SAP-functions
I tried like the instruction from above.
At first I had the unrar-Problem with "helmi_c´s SAP Test cab".
Everytime you save it to disk, it´s not able to unpack.
If you don´t save it to disk and if you installed WINRAR, just
OPEN it und unpack it via WINRAR to HD ! Now it works.
Back to my Handy and the instruction
I was able to install everything, but if I start Install of "helmi_c´s SAP Test cab" in the Extended ROM there will be a message, that I don´t have rights to install !
I don´t know if the instruction will fix my problem nether the File is for my Fone, but I´ll try.
Does anybody can help me and answer why my phone won´t install "helmi_c´s SAP Test cab" ?
Can Cingular, which I don´t understand, help me ?
Fone: HERM200 Vodafone 1605 VPA compact III
Fone-ROM: 1.20.162.3
Car Kit: fwd audio com
I have a T-Mobile Vario II, and am looking into buying the Sony-Ericsson HCB-700 carcit. I have SAP settings in my programs, will it work ??
Scholle2 said:
Hi all,
i´ve the same problem.
My CarKit "FWD audio com" won´t connect via SAP with my HERM200 Vodafone 1606 VPA 3 compact III. It always connect via 4 Char Code for talking. SAP Code (16 Char´s) won´t ask and so i´m not able to use the SAP-functions
I tried like the instruction from above.
At first I had the unrar-Problem with "helmi_c´s SAP Test cab".
Everytime you save it to disk, it´s not able to unpack.
If you don´t save it to disk and if you installed WINRAR, just
OPEN it und unpack it via WINRAR to HD ! Now it works.
Back to my Handy and the instruction
I was able to install everything, but if I start Install of "helmi_c´s SAP Test cab" in the Extended ROM there will be a message, that I don´t have rights to install !
I don´t know if the instruction will fix my problem nether the File is for my Fone, but I´ll try.
Does anybody can help me and answer why my phone won´t install "helmi_c´s SAP Test cab" ?
Can Cingular, which I don´t understand, help me ?
Fone: HERM200 Vodafone 1605 VPA compact III
Fone-ROM: 1.20.162.3
Car Kit: fwd audio com
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Did you install the Fit4Cat tweaker? Have a play with the options in it - from what i can remember, theres an some options about being able to install non-signed apps and rights.
If that doesn't work ill have a look for you.
Churchill said:
I have a T-Mobile Vario II, and am looking into buying the Sony-Ericsson HCB-700 carcit. I have SAP settings in my programs, will it work ??
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Depends entirely upon whether the HCB-700 uses rSAP or HFP (hands free profile) to connect to your vario....
If it uses rSAP then chances are it will work, but without having used your exact kit i can't say for definite i'm afraid.
-JD-
Thanx for the info
OK - I have tried to load the fit4cat tweaker to the c600 - it doesnt work - neither does my regedit software - so it requires more cunning.
With the M3100 I could not load the PHMRegedit - instead i used Vidya which seems to have worked.
The car kit I am trying to pair with is a mercedes MHI - it has worked with my Nokia 6230i up until now.
The regedit doesnt have a HEX function but converting 52 02 0C into DEC I get 5374476 - however looking at the original post it could be 5202C - which means 335916.
I have tried 335916 - and at first the car kit sees it - dials the long number in-order to pair with the phone - but then dies. after a few attempts the car kit stops to see the phone.
I have asked some colleagues to try this with their Bluetooth Passats - I will report back on this later.
Also I will now go and try 5374476.
With helmis test CAB - I only got on cab file after un-rar'ing it. is that OK? also is it the latest version of the file?
Thanks
p4uly said:
OK - I have tried to load the fit4cat tweaker to the c600 - it doesnt work - neither does my regedit software - so it requires more cunning.
With the M3100 I could not load the PHMRegedit - instead i used Vidya which seems to have worked.
The car kit I am trying to pair with is a mercedes MHI - it has worked with my Nokia 6230i up until now.
The regedit doesnt have a HEX function but converting 52 02 0C into DEC I get 5374476 - however looking at the original post it could be 5202C - which means 335916.
I have tried 335916 - and at first the car kit sees it - dials the long number in-order to pair with the phone - but then dies. after a few attempts the car kit stops to see the phone.
I have asked some colleagues to try this with their Bluetooth Passats - I will report back on this later.
Also I will now go and try 5374476.
With helmis test CAB - I only got on cab file after un-rar'ing it. is that OK? also is it the latest version of the file?
Thanks
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The reason you wont be able to get PHMRegedit and Fit4Cat to work is the fact that you're on a c600 rather than an M3100....
Anyway...the dec you're looking for is (as you stated you were going to test) 5374476 so that one should work...
What you need to do now is have a forum search for unlocking the Extended ROM on the c600 and the follow the instructions from there.
You should get a .cab file and a folder from the unRAR...
Yes this is the latest version of the file and works fine
-JD-
Testing
Right - have tried with both DEC values for the bluetooth and they both seem to work. Good so far.
Further Good News - It works with the Passat Car Kit - excellent
However when it comes to pairing with the Mercedes device (essentially a bluetooth dongle that plugs into where the phone cradle normally goes) the phone does not respond to the Car Kit when it dials the pairing number.
So I guess I'll post this on Helmis thread and see if there are any more tweaks...
where can you get a cingullar ROM from? has it been tried on a Hermes 100?
any luck
did you have any luck finding out how to pair with the mercedes bluetooth dongle. I can get Comand to see the device but it does not pair.
Mercedes Car Kit Not Working
Sorry - the Mercedes MHI (European variant) does not want to pair!!
I have tried my phone - with the tweaks in a VW passatt Bluetooth car - and it works.
I have tried my phone with a BMW I drive - and it is fine.
It also works with the Audi Bluetooth and a Nokia and Parrott Bluetooth kit.
So Mercedes have done something very odd with their kit....
And whats more infuriating is that there seems to be no way of asking mercedes techncial questions without the answer "that phone is not shown as compatible in the list".
Currently I am using the phone in speaker phone mode and have a pay as you go sim in the car kit for outgoing calls.
Apparently the U.S. Version of the MHI dongle is different - but I have not found anyone out there who has tried this threads update on a U.S module.
Oh well - here's hoping Orange release a ROM update tht comes out to update the phone in the future.
thanks for your reply
Doing the same with my T-Mobile phone and using a pay as you go sim in the car.
Really annoying.
I can't get it to work with the new Audi system. Have an Audi Allroad manufactured 10/06 with the new PT4 telephone system and a HTC Tytn.
Pairing it with the handsfree profile works and I can make calls and access the contacts in the Tytn.
Pairing it with the SAP profile also works but I do not get any network and can´t access the contacts in the Tytn. Tried changing [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Bluetooth\SYS]
"COD"=dword:52020C (hex) but I get the same results. Have not tried the other tweak since I already have "SAP Settings" under programs.
Any ideas about what to do?
UPDATE: Tried manual network selection from the car and was very surprised when my network "Vodafone Sweden" showed up as available and some other networks as not available. When I choose "Vodafone Sweden" it tries to connect and then says "Network error". Could it be a problem with SAP and Vodafone Sweden? Will try my wifes sim when she comes home.
please has anyone found a solution to pairing with a Mercedes device?
Sorry
Sorry - No..
Although your phone says it has SAP already the file atached on the first page of this thread is an upgrade to the Bluetooth Stack - so please try with the file (you can always remove it if it doesnt work).
Hopefully that should then work.
Are there any particular functions you want to use via SAP that you cannot do with Headset Profile??
When I tried another sim (Telia) it worked! Talked to Telenor/vodafone and they said I should ask the car or telephone manufacturer what type of sim I should have, Telenor/vodafone has several different sims.
I want to use SAP to get use of the outside antenna for better reception an no "radiation" (don´t know the word) inside the car. I also want to use the separate bluetooth handset that can´t be used when using handsfree profile.
Do you think the other bluetooth stack can help me get the contacts in the Audi phone?
Update: tried to install BTSAP_Test.cab manually but it says that installation failed since it doesn´t have enough authority in the system. Have mounted and unlocked extended rom with Fit4cat Hermes Tweaker and soft boot but it doesn´t work.
Hi there,
I might be wrong but I thought that WM5 AKU offered the SAP Bluetooth profile?
I cannot see where to activate on my new Orange M600? Have Orange removed the software?
I have looked at the postings where users have got the M3100 SAP settings menu to appear.
I folowed the link, was able to show my extended ROM, install the BTSAP_Test.CAB and the menu option appeared to turn on SAP.
My Audi Q7 was able to see the phone and I ws offered the 16 digit code for SAP pairing. Once this was accepted by the phone and the pairing setup, I tried to connect but was unsuccessful.
Is there a limitation on AKU2 for the bluetooth SIM Access Profile? Does this only start to appear from AKU2.3? Any help would be appreciated.
I'm having big trouble with my pioneer BT55 (Bluetooth carstereo) it needs to autoconnect like a nokia phone but it won't... i think the problem is that the wizard is shown as a intelligent-phone. Is it possible to let it detect as a normal bluetooth phone.
btw the auto connect function is switched on at the carkit...
i used BTHtools with tmob WM5 and it did connect on every established call. too bad it doesn't work with TNT WM6.
does anyone have a cab, tool, fix or registery edit to let it work?
i saw this
Solutions:
Change the COD (Class of Device) from a PDA device to a smartphone device.
This can be done this way:
1. First make sure you've got a backup, or remember all settings you change in the registry.
2. Edit with a registry editor the following key:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Bluetooth\SY S\COD
By default my vario II does have the value: 1048852 (decimal)
Change this to: 5374476 (decimal).
3. Soft restart your device
4. Voila! Your device now identifies itself as a smartphone, and my pioneer unit finds it without problems.
but it doesnt support the autoconnect
Still unsolved?
I have similiar problem, my wizard connects to carstereo but when i turn radio off and on connection is lost. Only solution for restablishing connection is to turn bluetooth in wizard off and on again when radio is on. I've tried lots of programs and ROMs, and still problem occurs. It's very annoing, anyone solved it ? Normal phone reconnects without problem.
Hiya Guys
Have the new just installed the new OS , problem im having is trying to pair any BT devices it see's the devices , both a K800i and a Nikkai BT GPS which would paire with my XDA IIs whenit was running 2003SE , anyone had any BT issues.
Many Thanks
RF
- Its Not What You Know , or who you know , Its what you know about who
you know.
yip had the same problin...bt gps and jabra 250v..just restarted the pda(xda IIs) a few times..it found them 1 at a time.
Bluetooth Random Wake Up Issue Is Still Here
Hi all,
I didnt have any problem pairing bluetooth handsfree and blue angel, however, I notice that the random wake up issue is still here.
I wonder whether we can find solution for this since this has been a very annoying thing since WM5
hi all,
problin i found out today.i could not use bluetooth head set and bt gps at the same time.is there a fix or something i,ve not installed fron the cabs file..
thanks
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What do you think about this BA_Broadcom1.7.1.3400_OEM_Helmi_Test???
It is part of the OEMAddonsForKitchenV2, should we use it?
realkinguk said:
hi all,
problin i found out today.i could not use bluetooth head set and bt gps at the same time.is there a fix or something i,ve not installed fron the cabs file..
thanks
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Try to modify:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\BTPAN1\Parms
"MaxConnections"= 10 hex or 16 decimal (the same)
thank.
but nee luck.when i restart the ba.the values go back to 1..
bluetooth setting.com port.just 0 works..
thanks
flyboy_____ said:
TO XPLODE
What do you think about this BA_Broadcom1.7.1.3400_OEM_Helmi_Test???
It is part of the OEMAddonsForKitchenV2, should we use it?
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I have not tryed it but it may work, try it if it does not work remove it (or perform hard reset)