New to all this so please be gentle.
Have decided to buy an Xda II (or similar) on a contract here in the UK. Can not decide between O2 and Orange, prices are similar although there appear to be some good web deals on Orange.
What do folk recommend? I have heard that Orange's M1000 can not be unlocked or the firm wear updated. Is this true? Are there any other differences? Do you get two batteries and other goodies with Orange?
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
jjb said:
New to all this so please be gentle.
Have decided to buy an Xda II (or similar) on a contract here in the UK. Can not decide between O2 and Orange, prices are similar although there appear to be some good web deals on Orange.
What do folk recommend? I have heard that Orange's M1000 can not be unlocked or the firm wear updated. Is this true? Are there any other differences? Do you get two batteries and other goodies with Orange?
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
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I have an SPV-M1000 and unlocked it using the software found on this site, I have also upgraded the firmware from the orange website.
Cheers
JustinP
go with orange
you do get 2 batterys and a screen protector and 24 hour repacement if it is lost or dammaged or stolen for only £5 a month.
i am on my 3rd unit as the rom upgrade failed twice and they have swapped it no questions asked.
orange customer services is also free so any problems dont cost you a penny in calls unlike o2
go with orange mate!
SPV M2000 released today on Orange
Bah,
I've just decided I can afford an SPV (£100 with a £30 contract). I knew there would likely be the new model out soon since the price has dropped so much. How much do you think you could get the new M2000 for with a new contract?
I've ordered my M1000 but have 2 weeks to return it if I don't want it
SPV M2000 released today on Orange???????
where have you seen this can u post a link???
cheers
Orange SPV M2000
delboydell said:
SPV M2000 released today on Orange???????
where have you seen this can u post a link???
cheers
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The SPV M2000 is due out in October/November 2004. The nice new feature is Windows Mobile 2003 Second Edition. I don't think I would rate the Qwerty keyboard that much unless you have really small child-like fingers. I perhaps to use the stylus for text entry. Then again if I had one I would probably think different!
http://www.shopforphones.co.uk/orange-spv-m2000.htm
http://www.msmobiles.com/news.php/2981.html
Hi there - this is my first post so be gentle!
I have been waiting months now for the mini to be released on O2. I am hoping that someone in here can shed some light on its release date?
I have searched all over the web - i know that I can buy a jam sim free but wanted to go through O2. Currently have p900& spv with orange.
Ive heard that it wont be released -
Not interested with the Orange version - looks horrible compared to the mini!
Cheers!
Anonymous said:
Hi there - this is my first post so be gentle!
I have been waiting months now for the mini to be released on O2. I am hoping that someone in here can shed some light on its release date?
I have searched all over the web - i know that I can buy a jam sim free but wanted to go through O2. Currently have p900& spv with orange.
Ive heard that it wont be released -
Not interested with the Orange version - looks horrible compared to the mini!
Cheers!
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This is not yor first post really as you're not registered.
I don't know about the Mini but you can get the Jam on an 02 Contract or upgrade from these guys
http://www.extrafone.com/
or you can get Jam from them with O2 Contract
www.mobilefun.co.uk
I have been patiently waiting for months now for this superb phone to come to o2 uk. I am already over due an upgrade but have been waiting untill the mini is available. But the wait is starting to annoy me and i am thinkin of jus leaving and going to t-mobile and picking up an MDA Compact. Anyone got any idea when the mini is coming to the uk? i have called o2 and they are as much help as a kick in the balls.
thaks,
Tom
Orange is releasing thier SPV M500 which is essentially a Jam, but it's also rumored it has 128mb RAM, may it's worth holding out a little bit longer for that
very interesting - if it does have 128mb of ram then it is definately worth waiting a bit for - but hopefully not too long! (i am a very impatient person!)
SPV M500
The SPV M500 is already available - I have one now, but alas it does not have 128mb Ram !
hmm if that's the case then i would still rather wait for the o2 XDA mini as i can probably get it cheaper as an upgrade an d i don't have the hastle of moving contracts etc. So any one got any idea when it is likely to be coming out?
Tom
welshtom said:
I have been patiently waiting for months now for this superb phone to come to o2 uk. I am already over due an upgrade but have been waiting untill the mini is available. But the wait is starting to annoy me and i am thinkin of jus leaving and going to t-mobile and picking up an MDA Compact. Anyone got any idea when the mini is coming to the uk? i have called o2 and they are as much help as a kick in the balls.
thaks,
Tom
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It's not going to be released. Time for new devices
welshtom said:
I have been patiently waiting for months now for this superb phone to come to o2 uk. I am already over due an upgrade but have been waiting untill the mini is available. But the wait is starting to annoy me and i am thinkin of jus leaving and going to t-mobile and picking up an MDA Compact. Anyone got any idea when the mini is coming to the uk? i have called o2 and they are as much help as a kick in the balls.
thaks,
Tom
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I spoke to O2 UK about this a few days ago and the guy on the phone said not to hold my breath waiting for it as they may not do it here in the UK!
I was with O2 and in the same position a few months back - eventually I went with an Orange contract and a Qtek S100 (2 year warranty) - the interesting part is that orange will match O2's '200' contract, so essentially you end up with the same deal as O2 with the benefits of Orange (241 cinema tickets are great) and a extra years warranty! You don't _need_ 128mb, the bigstorage conversion takes care of that! Compared to the XDA2 it's incredible - just as fast, the SIZE OF A PHONE (AT LAST) and battery life is far, far better (i no longer need to charge EVERY day).
Do it...
I bought mine from:
http://www.a1comms.co.uk/store/merchant-4-34-305-Phones.ihtml
..but do shop around. Sell you old device on ebay - i sold mine for 350ukp with a gps unit!
I see they're doing an O2 promotion right now - so you could stick with O2 and save some cash!
e.g.
"O2 200 with 50 messages + Promotion (12mths) £30 per month, phone cost £29.99"
Or do what i do.It takes forever for the companys here in the uk to get the decent phone,if ever so when your upgrae is due,get the best phone possible,sell it on e-bay then buy whatever phone sim free ie i mate jam :wink: that way you don't have to spend time removing all orange,o2 etc's crap off it.You can even sell the phone you got now too to raise more.Works every time for me! :wink: :twisted:
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Or do what i do.It takes forever for the companys here in the uk to get the decent phone,if ever so when your upgrae is due,get the best phone possible,sell it on e-bay then buy whatever phone sim free ie i mate jam :wink: that way you don't have to spend time removing all orange,o2 etc's crap off it.You can even sell the phone you got now too to raise more.Works every time for me! :wink: :twisted:
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To not install the 'crap' just reset the device after windows setup, that way the extended rom isn't installed and you can do it by hand. I did the math and it would of cost me more to buy, sell and then buy again - remember you can drop your contract rate post-six months in which brings the cost down again. Besides, the problem is, that O2 do not offer the magician as an upgrade
right cheers for the replies guys - very interesting, i am shocked however that o2 is probably not going to realease this phone! big mistake in my opinion! looks like i had better give up waiting then and go do some searchin around and some maths to find the best deal i can!
thanks again,
Tom
i got my s100 on o2 100 for £39.99 and £25 a month contract,
a1comms.co.uk
great device (obviously not branded as o2 but its still the same)
I live in Hong Kong. From my estimate, the O2 will sell in Hong Kong in December 2005. I want to get the Universal to be first in Hong Kong. Do I buy the Universal from expansys.com or wait the offical selling in Hong Kong?
If you want to be the first you don't have much choice but to get it from somewhere else other than O2!
I'm in the same boat as you are... No warranty and ugly looking Jasjar But on the other hand, the wait is killing me too....
XDA EXEC
Hi in answer to your question, i would only consider the O2 XDA EXEC,i have seen both devices,the XDA EXEC looks way better than the Imate Jasjar.
In addition the XDA EXEC will be tested more...O2 have better support + the O2 active service installed in the phone really inhances the device.
At the end of the day i Know its hard to wait...but i promise you will not be dissapointed this device really sets new standards.
O2 vs JasJar
Disagree with you on some points, firstly, o2 Active is a complete waste of time, been on 02 3years since xda 1 and always dumped it. For Guarantee, they're both about the same, 1 year, so no benefits there. I have also owned an Imate and their customer support was fine, no worse or better then o2. Rom Upgrades are much faster at imate, less bureauracy, and that is a big plus. And if you want to, you can always put an o2 rom later.
Jasjar is a terrible name, and will be more expensive than o2, always. They cannot subsidize like o2 can, not a big difference, so waitin 3-6 weeks you'll get it cheaper for sure.
O2 vs JasJar
Disagree with you on some points, firstly, o2 Active is a complete waste of time, been on 02 3years since xda 1 and always dumped it. For Guarantee, they're both about the same, 1 year, so no benefits there. I have also owned an Imate and their customer support was fine, no worse or better then o2. Rom Upgrades are much faster at imate, less bureauracy, and that is a big plus. And if you want to, you can always put an o2 rom later.
Jasjar is a terrible name, and will be more expensive than o2, always. They cannot subsidize like o2 can, not a big difference, so waitin 3-6 weeks you'll get it cheaper for sure.
Mark,
You can preorder Qtek from expansys. The price a bit cheaper.
You can check here.
http://www.expansys.com.hk/product.asp?code=125550
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fanacreonte2804 said:
Hi in answer to your question, i would only consider the O2 XDA EXEC,i have seen both devices,the XDA EXEC looks way better than the Imate Jasjar.
In addition the XDA EXEC will be tested more...O2 have better support + the O2 active service installed in the phone really inhances the device.
At the end of the day i Know its hard to wait...but i promise you will not be dissapointed this device really sets new standards.
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I bet I can guess who you work for , but I must say the exec is much easier on the eyes.
Not sure
I think they really are 100% the same, unless you really are a tosser and care about device color...
Warranty 1 year
Rom: within a month, you'll put whatever you want in, no big deal active
o2 Active, Useless (Unless someone wants to convince me otherwise)
Price: 100% o2 will be cheaper, it always is. I will always buy these under contract, they are cheaper + you get minutes which I can throw away.
Buying O2
Buying O2 guarantees you a few things:
1) O2 active will be available, and if installed (which at least is optional on the exec without needing silly corporate codes) it will make your device crash much more than devices that dont have it. I have no confidence that O2 will sort out the O2 active issues that exist on the XDA IIs
2) You will wait *eons* for firmware updates. O2 are still shipping devices with BT build 3500, rom 1.31.00, radio: 1.06. They are now about 6 versions behind and there is no news of whether there will *ever* be an official update to the latest and greatest. For the record, BT3900, rom 1.41, and radio 1.12 are the latest.
3) You will get a cheaper device than if you bought it elsewhere.
So.... if you buy O2 then be prepaired to hack around with it, cook your own roms, and rely on timely updates from *other* vendors (which will need to be hacked for the O2 XDA) to fix the bugs on your exec.
O2 do not aknowledge or fix bugs on their devices period.
Nigel
I agree 100%
Exec will be considerably cheaper, but you'll get screwed on support. Even more true for T-Mobile, they are the most agressive guys, u wiull save a lot if you are patient.
For example I bought 13 T-mobile MDA's for 235GBP (purchase price + contract), and flipped on ebay for 320GBP. Now I have cancelled my contract and am getting 446GBP back, paying for JasJar....
So, buying through an agressive operator is always cheaper because they factor in that you will be spending more then you're contract....guess I didn't
Getting it from O2 doesn't offer much advantages; All O2 settings can be obtained from their site or the net; O2 active is useless, I always get rid of it in all my O2 pocket pcs; waste of memory. I bought the jamjar on an o2 contract costing 320GBP, paying 25GBP per month for 100min and 100text which works out to 620GBP. I don't think waiting for the exec itself will give a more significant discount. 320 quid for the device sounds fair enough considering it costs over 600GBP sim free at the moment; some shops sell it at 700GBP!
Did the same
Paid 660 GBP for 250 minutes on o2 and the phone for one year. Not bad? (I already have 500 minutes from o2 for 15GBP per month, but I figured can keep the 250 minutes for guests)
It is pre-order only.
1. Expansys is on pre-order stage.
2. Expansys cannot provide the handset warranty.
3. The price is about 700GBP
I am only wait for O2 Exec.
Hemant said:
Mark,
You can preorder Qtek from expansys. The price a bit cheaper.
You can check here.
http://www.expansys.com.hk/product.asp?code=125550
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What is the price of the O2 Exec from O2 UK for handset only(Sim free)? Who can help me to reply this post?
Thanks!!!!!!
Are you really gonna wait for the O2 XDA Exec in Hong Kong?
I have just been told that Universal will not appear in Hong Kong under O2 brand - the distributor will introduce it as Dopod 900.
Wait and see - October 2005.
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mikeycollins13 said:
I think they really are 100% the same, unless you really are a tosser and care about device color...
Warranty 1 year
Rom: within a month, you'll put whatever you want in, no big deal active
o2 Active, Useless (Unless someone wants to convince me otherwise)
Price: 100% o2 will be cheaper, it always is. I will always buy these under contract, they are cheaper + you get minutes which I can throw away.
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Making him care about the colour on a device that costs £600+gbp makes him a tosser?Would you like a **** brown with pink spots coloured ferrari?
Personally I would wait for the Exec.
I like the O2 colors better than the grey MDA ones - this is just and aesthetic issue. Functional-wise I think you should wait because there are problems with apps that are not compatible yet with WM5, therefore you might not be able to use all the apps which you have purchased (or downloaded as freeware) to run on your device,so your gaming/productivity/communication/entertainment might be impaired
1. Are you sure the O2 Exec will not release in HK?
2. After to read some posts, I want to wait O2 Exec released in Hong Kong rather than to buy imate/MDA Pro from overseas/Internet(expansys or www.pocketpc.com.hk).
shu_sum said:
Are you really gonna wait for the O2 XDA Exec in Hong Kong?
I have just been told that Universal will not appear in Hong Kong under O2 brand - the distributor will introduce it as Dopod 900.
Wait and see - October 2005.
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There's one problem with the O2 exec, at least in the UK - O2! They're rubbish in every sense. I used to be a customer of theirs and I had to phone them EVERY MONTH when they double billed me. They never sorted this out despite my repeated atempts and they're repeated promises. You'll also spend 15 minutes on hold when you call them. Their customer service is completly ineefctual and, as mentioned elsewhere, bug fixes and rom updates are almost non-existant. I'm told they also have poorer 3G coverage in the UK than the likes of Voda.
I bought a JasJar (and paid prolly about £70 more than if I had bought an Exec on O2) soley becuase it meant i didn't have to use O2!
But I agree the exec looks nicer. There is also some concern over the JasJar not having a keybaord backlight - I'll be able to confirm or deny in a couple of days when my order arrives.
Im currently on O2 at the mo (XDA IIi) with about 6 months of my current contract left.
Anyway when the time comes to upgrade, i quite fancy a Wizard ....
BUT i cant seem to find the device listed for any company (Tmobile, Vodaphone, O2, Orange) am i missing something?
Will it be available when i need to upgrade ?
Sorry if this has been asked before, i couldnt see any threads that jumped out at me.
I believe that O2 will have it soon, branded as the Mini Exec..
Expansys
Expansys (UK) have them in on T-mobile (as a vario) for £23.95 on web and walk 100
http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=127413
A few mobile sites have them in Qtek/Imate guises or branded to O2, but stocks seem to be minimal if non-existant. I rang t-mobile yesterday and upgraded for £40 to web and walk 100 for 18 months and the Vario. Recieved this morning and v. happy with it. My MDA compact is now being replaced (though it will be missed).