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hi all,
simple questions i know but i just wanted to make sure of a few things before i go ahead and purchase this!
is the SPV M500 basically the same as the imate jam and Qtek s100 etc??? because i hate all the orange branding crap they put on their phones so will be lookin to put the qtek or imate rom onto the phone asap! will this be possible? i also need to unlock it so i can use a dual sim adapter and use both my o2 and orange sims in it - will the unlock solution for the rest of the magician devices work for the spv m500? has anyone tried?
secondly have people used Tom Tom 5 with this phone? can you report if the devices worked well together and give a stable solution?
thanks and SORRY for the stupid questions!
Tom
svp 500 vs qtec s100
the svp 500 is similar to the qtec s100, but not the s100. The svp 500 is also known as the Qtec S110.
I might be talking under correction here, but I understand the S110 has a new ROM which is not the same as the latest S100.
I don't think there is much difference the 2 phones, other than that your memory is 128 instead of the 64 for std qtec s100s. The outside of the svp has also changed slightly, so has the colour.
Re: svp 500 vs qtec s100
bushmen said:
the svp 500 is similar to the qtec s100, but not the s100. The svp 500 is also known as the Qtec S110.
I might be talking under correction here, but I understand the S110 has a new ROM which is not the same as the latest S100.
I don't think there is much difference the 2 phones, other than that your memory is 128 instead of the 64 for std qtec s100s. The outside of the svp has also changed slightly, so has the colour.
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This is not true! the Orange M500 is exactly the same as the MDA Compact, Qtek S100, VPA etc. The only thing that is different is the looks. The M500 is somthing less round and is in darkish gray. The Qtek S110 is a Qtek S100 with 128Mb Ram Thats it!
thanks for that rvbcrs,
I did mention the differences which were the same as yours.
For instance, you can not buy the mda compact / vpa compact / ijam or any of the other's stylusses, since they've changed the s110's stylus and it will not fit. I've also been told the the Rom is versioned otherwise, which may be so / not.
It is really the same thing, but what i tried to say is that it is definately improved (only a bit) and like the rom hacks might be different.. those type of things.. but hey, if you've got the same phone you probably know better.
thanks again for your input on this
The vpa compact/orange spv have much better sound quality than jam/mda etc!Also they are only 64mb just different housing!
The vpa compact/orange spv have much better sound quality than jam/mda etc!Also they are only 64mb just different housing!you'll be able to get rid of most of the orange "crap" once you get it.Just go to add/remover programs and remover the orange software that gets rid of the visible things + interface etc
thanks very much for the replies guys!
in general does anyone have any experience of Tom Tom navigator 5 and any of the magician devices? do they work well together? i have heard that tom tom 5 drains the full processor power for the entire time it is running which has led to critical overheating of some devices and the phone functions and for that matter any other functions cant run at the same time due to the work that tom tom 5 puts on the processor!!! is this true?!
thanks,
Tom
i'm running tt5 on my vpa.it works fine.lt does use a great deal of the cpu but you can't use other programs when the navigator is on anyway!no overheatirg problems.tt5 works better than tt3 for me when all patches are applied as l struggled to answer calls on tt3 as it ran so slow but tt5 is better!pm me for more
HI,
This is my first post as I have not yet purchased this device and needed some advice before buying. In fact I am contemplating between the Qtek s100 and the s110. I know that essentially the only difference is the upgraded memory from 64mb to 128mb and the colour. I was also told despite the fact that the 2 devices are identical (apart memory) the 128mb version runs a bit faster because of the added memory. Is this true?
I already have a 1Gb sd card and plan on using it for storage and installing programs. Will the extra memory come in handy once I start installing programs? I currently own a palm E2 and the programs in the Palm OS are pretty miniscule, in the pocket pc is it the same or will I need several mb per application? I did test out the s110 and it seemed to function pretty fast (compared to my E2) , I inserted my sd card and was able to view pics and video impressively quick with the installed beta player.
Another issue is the price. Here in Paris I am able to sign a 1 year contract with SFR and buy the s100 at a discount phone shop for 120Euros!! and the s110 for 180-200Euros. Is it worth the extra 60-80euros for the added memory? Perhaps it would be better to buy the s100 and with the extra cash invest it in a sdwifi card? Or wait altogether for a newer device such as the qtek 9100.
Also I read in another post that it may be possible to upgrade the m500 (orange) to windows mobile 5 in the future and if that being the case would the 128mb of ram be more usefull?
And is it quite easy to flash the unit to change the language from french to english if i decide in the future?
Other than that, what does everyone think of the magician? They just released the qtek 9100, with the sliding keypad but i dont see it being that great an avantage as it adds weight and maked the unit a bit thicker, taking away the advantage of it being a real portable unit. Included wifi obviously would be the biggest advantage, and of course mobile 5 (perhaps).
I know I've asked many questions here and appreciate any advice. I'm sure no matter what decision I make I wont really go wrong but just trying to invest in a tool that will at least meet my needs and stay current for at least a year before its outdated!!!! Thanks for any help and advice in advance!
The S110 is the better choice for sure. I use one myself and yes, the 128MB of Ram make live really easy - I installed everything (all programs I use and thats a lot) into Ram still have 40+MB free for program running. I would install into RAM for sure on a S110, on a S100 you may want to do it on a SD-Card but I would not do that if it can be avoided and it can with an S110 (wow that rhymes). Trust me, you WILL thank god for not thinking about every MB twice - the S110 with its 128MB can handle everyhting. Never ever would I choose a version with less RAM when one with more is avail.
The other device you're talking about is the K-Jam (iMate calles it this way). I would stay away, the keyboard is useless (at least to normal users) and it only has a 200MHz CPU!
Flashing the Magician (like S100 or S110) is pretty easy, the other one (9100) is based on another hardware platform (TI CPU instead of Intel one) the it will take a while for modded Roms to arrive.
Wifi can be added to the S110 using a SDcard, you dont wifi all the time don't you. I would never choose the 200MHz device with wifi over the 416MHz without given the fact that wifi is an easy addon, more CPU power is not.
WM5 will not likely come for S110 but who needs it? I dont get all the fuss about WM5. I used it on a HTC universal for a few hours and its not that special. The new storage (that uses stone-age-speed ROM) will make it slower in fact.
Thanks for your advice.
I figured it can never hurt to have more memory. I just wasnt sure if the ppc used as that much in terms of applications compared to the Palm os which is negligible.
May programs are less than a megabyte. I have more than half a dozen loaded on my palm E2 and still have space left on the paltry 32mb ram! Well wouldn't be the case with the magician.
I suppose the 128mb model (S110) also uses free space for caching, so if there is only 64mb vs 128 it would make a difference in performance. And the price difference of less than 100euros I guess is reasonable as its factory done.
Mogwai said:
I just wasnt sure if the ppc used as that much in terms of applications compared to the Palm os which is negligible.
May programs are less than a megabyte. I have more than half a dozen loaded on my palm E2 and still have space left on the paltry 32mb ram! Well wouldn't be the case with the magician.
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Don't forget that the OS on the Magician is from Micro$oft who are notorious for memory-hungry OSs and applications on ANY platform. :?
The more memory the better. :wink:
One thing to consider is battery life. How does the 110 compare with the 100? Keeping that extra RAM alive requires power, and that has to come from the battery.
Any 110 users care to comment?
With normal useage I get about 2.5 days on my XDA Mini...
Qtek S110 + WiFi SD cards
Hello Everybody, need some advice...
Am new to mobile/PDAs and am thinking of buying the S110 but want to wifi enable it as well as store MP3s/AACs too ...
Sandisk do a WiFi SD card with 256mb built in - has anybody used one of these or know whether its compatible. Web research suggests it is but it would be nice to know it works [and its failures] from someone already using this type of connectivity.
Thanks
K
This thread might help: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=14560
Re: Qtek S110 + WiFi SD cards
Kean said:
Hello Everybody, need some advice...
Am new to mobile/PDAs and am thinking of buying the S110 but want to wifi enable it as well as store MP3s/AACs too ...
Sandisk do a WiFi SD card with 256mb built in - has anybody used one of these or know whether its compatible. Web research suggests it is but it would be nice to know it works [and its failures] from someone already using this type of connectivity.
Thanks
K
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AFAIK WiFi/256MB sdio cards work in magician (search this forum for more about it), anyway pls consider the following:
- Sandisk is NO MORE producing WiFi/256MB cards (however they can be still found in some e-stores or ebay)
- 256MB is too small for carrying MP3
- This card is more than 1cm longer than ordinary SD cards so it will jut out from the top of your magician: it'll ruin device's esthetics and, possibly, led to card breaking
- Next month many new wm 5.0 devices will be released, they'll offer integrated WiFi, more powerful camera, EDGE, radio FM, 128MB of storage and, of course, windows mobile 5.0. If i were u i'd wait for them to come.
- If u can't wait a month, then have a look at new Qtek 9100 a.k.a. I-Mate K-jam a.k.a. SPV M3000 a.k.a. HTC Wizard: it comes with integrated WiFi, WM 5.0 and qwerty keyboard.
- If u still want a Magician, then i think u should consider buying a S100 (instead of s110) thus saving about 100$. I have it and, as long as u move all installed programs to SD card or storage, i can assure u RAM is enough for any application (IMHO, of course)
Bye bye,
an Isidoro that's waiting eagerly for Prophet (or Athena) to be released!!!
Qtek S110 + WiFi SD cards
Thx Paul
so the bottom line is that its a bit of a lottery but the fact that SanDisk are pulling out of this market must mean its unlikely to get any better for the users, is that right?
K
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risidoro said:
Kean said:
Hello Everybody, need some advice...
Am new to mobile/PDAs and am thinking of buying the S110 but want to wifi enable it as well as store MP3s/AACs too ...
Sandisk do a WiFi SD card with 256mb built in - has anybody used one of these or know whether its compatible. Web research suggests it is but it would be nice to know it works [and its failures] from someone already using this type of connectivity.
Thanks
K
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AFAIK WiFi/256MB sdio cards work in magician (search this forum for more about it), anyway pls consider the following:
- Sandisk is NO MORE producing WiFi/256MB cards (however they can be still found in some e-stores or ebay)
- 256MB is too small for carrying MP3
- This card is more than 1cm longer than ordinary SD cards so it will jut out from the top of your magician: it'll ruin device's esthetics and, possibly, led to card breaking
- Next month many new wm 5.0 devices will be released, they'll offer integrated WiFi, more powerful camera, EDGE, radio FM, 128MB of storage and, of course, windows mobile 5.0. If i were u i'd wait for them to come.
- If u can't wait a month, then have a look at new Qtek 9100 a.k.a. I-Mate K-jam a.k.a. SPV M3000 a.k.a. HTC Wizard: it comes with integrated WiFi, WM 5.0 and qwerty keyboard.
- If u still want a Magician, then i think u should consider buying a S100 (instead of s110) thus saving about 100$. I have it and, as long as u move all installed programs to SD card or storage, i can assure u RAM is enough for any application (IMHO, of course)
Bye bye,
an Isidoro that's waiting eagerly for Prophet (or Athena) to be released!!!
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all this makes sense. what I like about the S100/110 is its size - looks like I'll be waiting for the Prophet just like you.
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Kean said:
all this makes sense. what I like about the S100/110 is its size - looks like I'll be waiting for the Prophet just like you.
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Let's hope it won't take too much then!
Bye bye,
Isidoro
Guys,
Here is a roadmap of HTC products for 2006.
http://www.mobigeeks.fr/stories.php?story=05/11/14/4058495
Unfortunately its in french but actually easy to follow.
I'm using the S110 now and had an MDAc before that and I must say that there is nearly no difference with keeping the 128MB RAM of the S110 alive opposed to the 64MB versions. I monitored that closely the last week and I must say the the difference is minimal, like getting 2-5% longer life with the 64MB version but the comfort of having more RAM than you'll prolly ever use makes more than up for that.
The thing with "waiting for the prohet": When the prophet is ready to launch there will be a new one in the pipeline that would be worth waiting for. There will always be a new/better one at the horizon and if you go that "I'll wait for that device" way you'll never buy one of them because you'll always look at the next model that appears better but is a few month away. That said I'm more than happy with my S110 (just bought the SpecTec Wifi and use it with the Socket driver and WiFi companion) and I'm loving it, I couldn't wish for more. Sure I miss the biometric feature of my old iPAQ 5455 but hey the S110 is great. Until the bring a S110 with fingerprint scanner I'm not interested. I dont need intergreated WiFi (the SpecTec makes up for that very well) and I dont need more CPU power (PHM can push the 416MHz up a noth if needed) and a keyboard (like KJam, I'm so used to Resco Keyboard Pro) and for sure I dont need WM5 (buggy slow OS in my view).
That said the S110 is perfect!!!
Re: Qtek S110 + WiFi SD cards
risidoro said:
Kean said:
Hello Everybody, need some advice...
Am new to mobile/PDAs and am thinking of buying the S110 but want to wifi enable it as well as store MP3s/AACs too ...
Sandisk do a WiFi SD card with 256mb built in - has anybody used one of these or know whether its compatible. Web research suggests it is but it would be nice to know it works [and its failures] from someone already using this type of connectivity.
Thanks
K
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AFAIK WiFi/256MB sdio cards work in magician (search this forum for more about it), anyway pls consider the following:
- Sandisk is NO MORE producing WiFi/256MB cards (however they can be still found in some e-stores or ebay)
- 256MB is too small for carrying MP3
- This card is more than 1cm longer than ordinary SD cards so it will jut out from the top of your magician: it'll ruin device's esthetics and, possibly, led to card breaking
- Next month many new wm 5.0 devices will be released, they'll offer integrated WiFi, more powerful camera, EDGE, radio FM, 128MB of storage and, of course, windows mobile 5.0. If i were u i'd wait for them to come.
- If u can't wait a month, then have a look at new Qtek 9100 a.k.a. I-Mate K-jam a.k.a. SPV M3000 a.k.a. HTC Wizard: it comes with integrated WiFi, WM 5.0 and qwerty keyboard.
- If u still want a Magician, then i think u should consider buying a S100 (instead of s110) thus saving about 100$. I have it and, as long as u move all installed programs to SD card or storage, i can assure u RAM is enough for any application (IMHO, of course)
Bye bye,
an Isidoro that's waiting eagerly for Prophet (or Athena) to be released!!!
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risidoro,
Which new devices are you talking about?
mogwai
y magician cannot upgrade to wm5?
not enought rom....
O2 MINI:
Processor
• Intel PXA 272 CPU
• Clock speed: 416MHz
Memory
• Flash ROM: 64MB
• RAM: 64MB
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PDA France dug up some details about the HTC Galaxy, a new GPS-enabled Pocket PC from HTC (their first, in fact) that looks to be about the same size as the HTC Magician and that runs Windows Mobile 5.0 and has a 300MHz processor, 64MB of Flash ROM, 32MB of RAM, a 2.8-inch, 320 x 240 pixel LCD screen, Bluetooth, WiFi, and an SDIO expansion card slot. Odd to see HTC pumping out something which isn’t also a cellphone, but they’ve probably figured out from their Taiwanese brothers-in-ODM that there’s actually some decent money in dedicated GPS handhelds. Won’t be out until around the end of year.
Again, for the 100000st time: It might be possible to load WM5 onto the Magician, but this can be done ONLY by HTC and MS. And they won't do it EVER!! Why? Have a look:
http://www.theunwired.net/?itemid=2723
Cheers,
Mundl
Looking at the MDA Compact II, the only main difference from our Magician is the processor. All other hardware is presumably the same as the Magician's (memory size is not significant).
So ..... if 3rd party software can run on any of the CPUs, why cant' WM5? Or is it that 3rd party software for the TI OMAP processor is compiled specifically for that CPU?
Just wondering :?
WM5 probably could run on Magician and potentially any device.
I'm not educated enough to answer correctly, but AFAIK anyone can build WM5 for the Magician using platform builder, but getting it work is the problem. We don't have compatible drivers etc specifically written for the device (as you can see with some of the WM5 builds for blue angel). So without proper drivers for all the hardware, it won't be "compatible" with all of the hardware.
Mamaich is the man for this question though. His Wizard ROM should open up doors I imagine.
V
I'm well aware of the drivers issue but with an MDA Compact II ROM the drivers should work just fine as it is essentially the same hardware. No?
More specifically, my question should be: is it JUST the different processor that won't allow us to use a WM5 Compact II ROM on our Magician? And if it is so, how come? (if 3rd party sofware can run on both processors with the same build?)
Actually, went down to a computer store on Friday and tested the HP IPAQ 1950. It only had 64MB ROM and 32MB RAM and 300MHz but it was very fast to operate which is surprising. Faster than an O2 mini display model.
Note that all display models only have factory settings with software that comes preinstalled. Comparing an O2 mini 64MB RAM/64 MB ROM 416MHz WM2003SE with an HP rx1950 32MB RAM/64MB ROM 300MHz WM 5.0, the rx1950 felt faster plus the HP screen was 3.5" as well.
I guess i they wanted to release an upgrade to WM 5.0 for the O2 mini/iMate JAM they could but why bother because they'll make more money selling the next model with WM 5.0
I think the O2mini noob is absolutely right. They just want to sell new Devices. Why else don't they give an Update to WM5 for XDA II / III although there are unofficial leaks?
Why they don't want to release WM5 for the Magician is pretty obvious now, look at HTC Charmer and HTC Prophet ... but the question is why can't we have a COOKED ROM from the HTC Charmer? What is the technical reason why an HTC Charmer/MDA Compact II ROM does not work on the Magician?
Well for a start the nbf for the t-mob charmer will need to a bit of chopping first to fit on a magician, since its 72mb. plenty of room on the charmers 128mb rom but not for the magician.
Thinking of getting one of them, which one is a better device? Since both of there are basically the same device with different housing, is it possible for me to flash atom's ROM to rw6828 and vice versa just like those prophet like dopod 818pro, imate jamin and qdek s200?
One more question, do I really need 192mb ROM in atom exec or 128mb in atom is sufficient enough?
Get the HP my friend, the Atom and Atom Exec have faulty LCD screens. I know because I have had 3 Atoms and 2 Exec's replaced and the devices still squeal like a mosquito. O2 is horrible to deal with each time the device needs to be sent away you can expect it to be gone for at the very least a month and they do not give extended warranty for the time spent at the service centre.
Hi homer285, thanks for your reply, just curious, if there is LCD problem in atom/exec then HP should suffer the same since they are sharing the same device except for the housing and design. Anyway, I am testing the HP now, so far so good except for the wifi range and battery life...
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Hi homer285, thanks for your reply, just curious, if there is LCD problem in atom/exec then HP should suffer the same since they are sharing the same device except for the housing and design. Anyway, I am testing the HP now, so far so good except for the wifi range and battery life...
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Not necassarily true, I am yet to hear the HP has this problem and I think you'll find there's more than just housing and design difference.
Borrow one unit rw6828 back for testing, the wifi reception not very good, I have Apple Airport Express in my study room next to my bedroom, the signal only one bar where my 4 yrs old Toshiba notebook has 4 bars. Battery life also not very good, having the phone in standby mode for about 6 hours (played 2 songs, make and received 3-4 short phone calls), the battery drain from 100% to 49%. Does Atom did the same?
O2 Atom or HP 6828 (I've found something better!)
Hi All,
After having the O2 Atom for 3 weeks, I've decided to sell it off. I hate to say this, I have been a firm supporter of O2 from the days of XDAII to the days of O2 Mini, but I am sad to say O2 Atom is the worst of the lot I have ever used. I don't think it can get any worse (hmm maybe I am wrong and it can get worse?!). Maybe all the good phones are by HTC and this real bad one is by Quatar (or is it spelt that way? Who cares, I'm never gonna buy any phone from that manufacturer again).
This is what I have found bad about the Atom:
1) Bad design of hardware buttons (both O2 & HP)
- Why would any manufacturer design a hardware that doesn't take advantage of the new OS?? WM5 was design with ease of use in mind with the introduction of the left/right hardware keys (much like the nokia h/keys).
- Imagine you get the latest OS but you still have to touch the screen to access those quick menus, is this dumb or what?!
2) FM Radio is almost useless (reception & design)
- Poor reception (my pocket radio gets better reception, but then again this is a PDA phone so what the heck ..)
- Poor design because you need to have the wired headset attached to it when you want to hear the radio!
3) Cheap Plastic Cover
- Reminds me of the USD2 cheap nokia cover made in china (both the HP & Atom) squeaks, both the top and bottom does not allign properly
- I personally feel that both the XDAII & Mini built is much better (feels more solid)
- For the price you are paying for the Atom Exec, we should be getting the state of the art carbon fibers casing.
After I have sold it off, I have moved on to the Dopod 838pro. Any regrets? Other than the steep price (hey it's only USD100 more that then Atom Exec..) & microSD, it's a dream phone!!
Specs:
- GSM 850/900/1800/1900, GPRS, EDGE, UMTS(3G), HSDPA(3.5G)
- 13 hardware keys (1 dedicated video call key)
- a side slide out keyboard (w smart backlight) & Real Wheel (not jog dail)
- 2M pixel camera
- 802.11g Wi-Fi (802.11b compatible)
- 128mb flash 64mb RAM
... I can't ask for more. So .. for those planning to get an Atom Exec ... I would strongly recommend you check out the 838 Pro or in some place it's called the TyTN, HTC hermes, O2 Trion, Qtek 9600, iMate JasJam etc ..
HP 6828 Battery issue can be solved
Well you can certainly address the battery issue on the 6828 with success. Find help thru the link here