y magician cannot upgrade to wm5?
not enought rom....
O2 MINI:
Processor
• Intel PXA 272 CPU
• Clock speed: 416MHz
Memory
• Flash ROM: 64MB
• RAM: 64MB
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PDA France dug up some details about the HTC Galaxy, a new GPS-enabled Pocket PC from HTC (their first, in fact) that looks to be about the same size as the HTC Magician and that runs Windows Mobile 5.0 and has a 300MHz processor, 64MB of Flash ROM, 32MB of RAM, a 2.8-inch, 320 x 240 pixel LCD screen, Bluetooth, WiFi, and an SDIO expansion card slot. Odd to see HTC pumping out something which isn’t also a cellphone, but they’ve probably figured out from their Taiwanese brothers-in-ODM that there’s actually some decent money in dedicated GPS handhelds. Won’t be out until around the end of year.
Again, for the 100000st time: It might be possible to load WM5 onto the Magician, but this can be done ONLY by HTC and MS. And they won't do it EVER!! Why? Have a look:
http://www.theunwired.net/?itemid=2723
Cheers,
Mundl
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Pocket PC phone edition device made by HTC from Taiwan. Also known as O2 XDA-II, T-Mobile MDA-II, Qtek 2020, iMate Phone Edition, and probably a few lesser known brand names.
PocketPC, 320x240 pixel screen at 65536 colors. Intel Xscale processor at 400 MHz, 128 MB RAM, 64 MB ROM
The model number (printed on sticker underneath the battery) is PH10, followed by 'A' or 'B'.
http://www.mobile-review.com/pda/review/htc-prophet-en.shtml
Press launch in HK 6 Dec, 2005
Dopod 818 Pro (Have 5 color, white, silver, black, pink, blue)
WindowsMobile 5.0
2.8" TFT , 320 x 240 / 65K color
GSM 850/900/1800/1900/ , gprs, EDGE
2.0 Megapixel , "macro" function
TI OMAP 850
128MB Rom / 64MB Ram
Wifi " b" /bluetooth(not sure 1 or 1.2) / ir / mini-USB
mmc / sd i/o
150g with battery
58W x 108L x 18.2 H
battery 1200mAh
Regards
YADWTBO!
i.e: Yet Another Device With The Bloody OMAP !
I'd stick to my Magician for a long time, I'm afraid...
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i.e: Yet Another Device With The Bloody OMAP !
I'd stick to my Magician for a long time, I'm afraid...
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me too
Why is it posted in the Magician forum? The URL already tells it is about the Prophet! :evil:
Because it's particularly of interest to Magician owners who, if they are lie me, will upgrade to this when the contract is up. :wink:
Looking at the MDA Compact II, the only main difference from our Magician is the processor. All other hardware is presumably the same as the Magician's (memory size is not significant).
So ..... if 3rd party software can run on any of the CPUs, why cant' WM5? Or is it that 3rd party software for the TI OMAP processor is compiled specifically for that CPU?
Just wondering :?
WM5 probably could run on Magician and potentially any device.
I'm not educated enough to answer correctly, but AFAIK anyone can build WM5 for the Magician using platform builder, but getting it work is the problem. We don't have compatible drivers etc specifically written for the device (as you can see with some of the WM5 builds for blue angel). So without proper drivers for all the hardware, it won't be "compatible" with all of the hardware.
Mamaich is the man for this question though. His Wizard ROM should open up doors I imagine.
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I'm well aware of the drivers issue but with an MDA Compact II ROM the drivers should work just fine as it is essentially the same hardware. No?
More specifically, my question should be: is it JUST the different processor that won't allow us to use a WM5 Compact II ROM on our Magician? And if it is so, how come? (if 3rd party sofware can run on both processors with the same build?)
Actually, went down to a computer store on Friday and tested the HP IPAQ 1950. It only had 64MB ROM and 32MB RAM and 300MHz but it was very fast to operate which is surprising. Faster than an O2 mini display model.
Note that all display models only have factory settings with software that comes preinstalled. Comparing an O2 mini 64MB RAM/64 MB ROM 416MHz WM2003SE with an HP rx1950 32MB RAM/64MB ROM 300MHz WM 5.0, the rx1950 felt faster plus the HP screen was 3.5" as well.
I guess i they wanted to release an upgrade to WM 5.0 for the O2 mini/iMate JAM they could but why bother because they'll make more money selling the next model with WM 5.0
I think the O2mini noob is absolutely right. They just want to sell new Devices. Why else don't they give an Update to WM5 for XDA II / III although there are unofficial leaks?
Why they don't want to release WM5 for the Magician is pretty obvious now, look at HTC Charmer and HTC Prophet ... but the question is why can't we have a COOKED ROM from the HTC Charmer? What is the technical reason why an HTC Charmer/MDA Compact II ROM does not work on the Magician?
Well for a start the nbf for the t-mob charmer will need to a bit of chopping first to fit on a magician, since its 72mb. plenty of room on the charmers 128mb rom but not for the magician.
I was comparing these two renditions of Tytn at PDAdb.net and came accross something that cought my attention. Check it out at http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=506&id2=491
While the HTC rendition (tytn) sports
ROM: 128MB, 57.08MB usable
RAM: 64MB SDRAM, 48.8MB accessable
The I-mate version (JAsJAm) only grants you
ROM: 128MB, 51.0MB usable
RAM: 64MB SDRAM, 28.0MB accessable
I know it can probably be fixed using some sort of tweeking, but I ask: What's the point in skimming on RAM? Do the folks over at I-mate want this thing to choke when it runs more than 2 applications?
Aside of that, I noticed that HTC Tytn has a
USB Connector: USB 1.1 client, 12Mbit/s while the JasJam
USB Connector: USB 2.0 client, 60Mbit/s
But this might be less of a worry!
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Re: Not so subtle Differences between HTC Tytn and I-mate Ja
MCEITLIN said:
While the HTC rendition (tytn) sports
ROM: 128MB, 57.08MB usable
RAM: 64MB SDRAM, 48.8MB accessable
The I-mate version (JAsJAm) only grants you
ROM: 128MB, 51.0MB usable
RAM: 64MB SDRAM, 28.0MB accessable
I know it can probably be fixed using some sort of tweeking, but I ask: What's the point in skimming on RAM? Do the folks over at I-mate want this thing to choke when it runs more than 2 applications?
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JasJam ExtROM is far bigger than TyTN extrom. Physical memory is the same and you can avoid extrom installation and "select" the cabs you want to install manually after unhiding the ExtROM. You can compare the two ExtROMs here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_ExtendedRoms
MCEITLIN said:
Aside of that, I noticed that HTC Tytn has a
USB Connector: USB 1.1 client, 12Mbit/s while the JasJam
USB Connector: USB 2.0 client, 60Mbit/s
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I think the data must be wrong on the website, IIRC in my HTC TyTN box it says "USB 2.0".
Re: Not so subtle Differences between HTC Tytn and I-mate Ja
MCEITLIN said:
While the HTC rendition (tytn) sports
ROM: 128MB, 57.08MB usable
RAM: 64MB SDRAM, 48.8MB accessable
The I-mate version (JAsJAm) only grants you
ROM: 128MB, 51.0MB usable
RAM: 64MB SDRAM, 28.0MB accessable
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Are you serious? 20MB RAM is worth more than anything .. IMO. ROM's k .. but RAM is definitely more important.
Can anyone with a iMate ROM confirm this?
Yeah, but if you don't wanna fidle with ExtROM, the HTC will most likely be faster right out of the box? Right?
Hold off before playing with this for a few more days (supposedly a new TyTN ROM is about to be released).
goestoeleven said:
Hold off before playing with this for a few more days (supposedly a new TyTN ROM is about to be released).
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I have been told that a September Rom is due any day now.
Since HTC promissed an update to turn on the aGPS functionallity in the Trinity, and it's basically the same phone (or at least chipset) as the Hermes (please correct me if I'm wrong), any chance we may be getting a similar firm-ware update?
dew.man said:
Since HTC promissed an update to turn on the aGPS functionallity in the Trinity, and it's basically the same phone (or at least chipset) as the Hermes (please correct me if I'm wrong), any chance we may be getting a similar firm-ware update?
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If no one has said about it, then probably not. No, i doubt that there is a GPS chipset that can be enabled in the hermit.
i-mate SP JAM communicator , early info [ 07-12-2006 07:18 ]
In the Internet emerged the info on new model by i-mate SP JAM communicator.
Under the preliminary info, i-mate SP JAM is equipped with a hybrid keyboard (digital and QWERTY). I’d note larger flash ROM size and GPS-functionality. The specs known at the moment:
* Operating system - Windows Mobile 5.0 Pocket PC Edition
* GSM (850/900/1800/1900 MHz) and EDGE
* CPU - Freescale i.MX21 350 MHz or i.MX31 535 MHz
* 2.8” touchscreen LCD, QVGA (240x320 pixels) and 262K colors
* 64 MB RAM and 256 MB flash ROM
* Slot for miniSD cards
* 2-megapixel camera
* 12-channel GPS-module
* Li-Pol 1300 mAh
* Bluetooth 2.0 and Wi-Fi (802.11 b/g)
* miniUSB, IrDA, TV-out
That looks photoshopped...
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That looks photoshopped...
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Everything looks photoshopped these days
Hi, any updated information about this? since Hermes use the same Qualcomm chipset as Trinity, will HTC enable the AGPS function?
This would be such fortuitous serendipity, that I am not even entertaining any hope. Built in GPS on the Hermes would certainly sit it atop the pile. The only other QWERTY phone with GPS is the e-ten M700 I think, and it has no wheel.