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Notification que is a pain in the arse, can I say arse?

My exec seems to be getting worse daily, I have latest ROM and run in corporate mode and I have nothing else installed and yet the Notifications are really annoying me, half the time they appear and there is no dismiss button to clear them, and even when there is, they keep coming back, over and over, on sms text's, alarm's, missed calls anything and everything. I have soft reset over and over and they still come back. Now I notice my Exec was on charge all night, I have not used it other than for waking me up this morning and already battery is down to 30%, It's only 10:45am! Normally I can go home with my battery at around 70% that's after being on battery all day from an over night charge.
Not a happy chappy!
Regards

doesn't sound too normal there matey..time to ring up O2 to do some complaining? mine's an Exec prototype (ROM v: 0.61.00 WWE) and it doesnt' have such problems. i've downloaded the latest rom update but haven't done it yet coz i'm lazy and coz it remaps my keyboard (my prototype has a couple of different key locations)
looks like the latest rom update could have nasty aftereffects...i think i'll put my update 'on hold' for now~~

have you enabled repeating alarms? i find it dodgy and not really well used so had to disable it.
even spb still doesnt support it well
i believe memmaid and or pocket hackmaster has the ability to fix your notifications, or some other bear product but i dont need or use them as i dont have this problem.

FIXED!!!
Cross-Posted: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=236727#236727 on Mon Feb 27, 2006 23:31
Hello All!
After 3 weeks of usage of my Qtek9000:
- all the Calendar notifications dissapeared (no text, no sound);
- the Alarms did have sound and vibra, but no text and Notification softbutton on the screen;
- alarms sounds could appear on their selfs on a random time and no Text on the screen.
I've searched the forum and it learned out that it is a Notification Que Issue.
It looks that upon a time, that que is being oversized or some mess (duplicates?) happened in it.
So, after that the "Notification Que" Issue appears.
HOW I FIXED IT:
1. Get the MemMaid \ PocketMechanic app;
2. find and delete duplicates, SoftReset (SR) (no success so far);
3. delete up to 200 CALENDAR.EXE entries, (SR) (no success so far);
4. delete up to 100TASK.EXE entries, (SR) (no success so far);
5. delete .\\notificatiopn.....script... entries, (SR) (no success so far);
6. delete all repllog.exe entries (2) and SR- IT WORKS AGAIN !!! ;
From this case - I dont know which of the manipulations actually brought my notifications back alive (is that really the repllog.exe entry?)
The possible longterm solution may be a 3-rd party App, which performs scheduled Notification Que clean up?
This is a very annoying and awfull BUG in the WM5 !!!
As I don't believe the fillowing ROM releases will fix this critical bug, the only way out - is developing the system app to perform a scheduled Notification Que clean up.
All, please, give your feed back: your experience, knowledge on the subject, etc.
Thank you.

Are you using any of these editing tools that aren't WM5-compliant/compatible?
It's curious, because I (and certainly the majority of Universal users) aren't experiencing the problem you're having. I've been using mine since I set it up in November, and only did a hard reset yesterday because the device started getting a bit odd in the syncing department (my docs filenames being cut off).
In your case I would suggest doing a Hard Reset and not fiddling with the notification queue again, as teh only reason people fiddled with it before, was because of the alarm problem in WM2003.
My notification queue never filled, and I used a LOT of different programs, including beta testing for some PIM management tools.

snorbaard said:
Are you using any of these editing tools that aren't WM5-compliant/compatible?
It's curious, because I (and certainly the majority of Universal users) aren't experiencing the problem you're having. I've been using mine since I set it up in November, and only did a hard reset yesterday because the device started getting a bit odd in the syncing department (my docs filenames being cut off).
In your case I would suggest doing a Hard Reset and not fiddling with the notification queue again, as teh only reason people fiddled with it before, was because of the alarm problem in WM2003.
My notification queue never filled, and I used a LOT of different programs, including beta testing for some PIM management tools.
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Hello!
Yes, I will do the Hard Reset, but anyway - after some usage time, the queue will fu**k-up again.
I have 1000+ contacts (most of them with Birthdays Reminders), about 50 appointments per month, and all 3 alarms for wakening up in the morning.
The best solution, IMHO - the tool like "Notification Clear Fix - v1.2",
http://www.pocketpcfreeware.com/fr/index.php?soft=866
(Thanks to bonisalive for information)
Originally, this script is developed for WM2003 to fix its notification queue problems.
Now, we need a same tool for WM5 (the script, or no-GUI exe), which could be scheduled to run at 03.00AM evety Sunday

gooroo said:
My exec seems to be getting worse daily, I have latest ROM and run in corporate mode and I have nothing else installed and yet the Notifications are really annoying me, half the time they appear and there is no dismiss button to clear them, and even when there is, they keep coming back, over and over, on sms text's, alarm's, missed calls anything and everything. I have soft reset over and over and they still come back. Now I notice my Exec was on charge all night, I have not used it other than for waking me up this morning and already battery is down to 30%, It's only 10:45am! Normally I can go home with my battery at around 70% that's after being on battery all day from an over night charge.
Not a happy chappy!
Regards
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What I use is ScaryBears Check Notifications. After a missed call or txt, I just run this small application on my EXEC to check if I got a script 000 notifications or any notification added to my original ones. All I have to do is press clear and it errases the script notifications and leaves the original notifications intack. Works fine on my EXEC: http://scarybearsoftware.com/ppc_cn_overview.html

dima_the_chief said:
snorbaard said:
Hello!
Yes, I will do the Hard Reset, but anyway - after some usage time, the queue will fu**k-up again.
I have 1000+ contacts (most of them with Birthdays Reminders), about 50 appointments per month, and all 3 alarms for wakening up in the morning.
The best solution, IMHO - the tool like "Notification Clear Fix - v1.2",
http://www.pocketpcfreeware.com/fr/index.php?soft=866
(Thanks to bonisalive for information)
Originally, this script is developed for WM2003 to fix its notification queue problems.
Now, we need a same tool for WM5 (the script, or no-GUI exe), which could be scheduled to run at 03.00AM evety Sunday
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Have you tried Notification Clear Fix on your Universal? From what I heard it does not work on the Universal. Can you confirm?
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Gooroo, I had exectly the same battery problem, after upgrading to the latest o2 firmware. It made the phone virtually useless unless plugged into a power source. The fix was to upgrade to version 1.06 of the radio firmware. Version 1.06 is on this forum somewhere.
I can now use my Exec all day and have bluetooth enabled all day as well

Universals gone wild!!! Repeating alarms etc

My exec has gone nuts.
First, alarms stopped displaying the message boxes, and as I couldn't dismiss them, they went on for ages.
Now, I get my reminders through from weeks ago through, with no messages, all at once, in a mishmash of notification beeps, and voice command reading them out.
I really have no idea what could be wrong.
I haven't changed anything.
I'd love a fix which doesnt involve hard reset (and yes, I have soft reset it!)
Thanks,
Skelly
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Check out MamMaid it has an option for clearing notifications.

Read my step by step guide in the following thread to fix your device - this guide does NOT involve a hard reset.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=60036
And do not use the built-in Clock/Alarm application any more, it is VERY buggy and almost certainly what has caused your problems (as it did on mine).

Thanks: it helped me also: at last solved a irritating problem. You are a great help!

What do people recommend as the best alarm clock program to use?
My alarm clocks stopped working so relying on the Universal atm to wake me up every morning but today one of my calendar reminders didn't go off and I nearly missed a 3 hour conf call (tragedy I know!!!).
G

I'm using SPB Time, a bit bloated at over 3MB just for what is basically a clock but it has everything you will need (clock, WORKING alarm, stopwatch, etc).
Seriously people stop using the built in clock/alarms app completely, it messes up your notifications queue over time making reminders not go off properly and all sorts of other unpleasant bugs which just get worse as your device gets older, which is why I suspect we are seeing more and more of these cases a year after the device was originally released.
It is unknown at this time whether or not these bugs are fixed in later WM5 ROM releases, although I suspect not...

skelly said:
My exec has gone nuts.
First, alarms stopped displaying the message boxes, and as I couldn't dismiss them, they went on for ages.
Now, I get my reminders through from weeks ago through, with no messages, all at once, in a mishmash of notification beeps, and voice command reading them out.
I really have no idea what could be wrong.
I haven't changed anything.
I'd love a fix which doesnt involve hard reset (and yes, I have soft reset it!)
Thanks,
Skelly
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Ho YES I know this problem well!!! It is a total Pain in the But.
I have tried most tings and the only thing thatw orked for me was a hard reset a finaly a ROM upgrade seems to have stopped the problem coming back AGAIn & AGIN . Well for now anyway.
I think SL9 has the answer I have not tried the exact method given But Did try Memmaid and It did not help. I did not however deselect the alarms first and did not do a Soft reset straight after. These may be the secrets to success. I have not had the problem recently (please NO MORE) so unable to try SL9 method but seems to have worked for many
Here is SL9s method Good luck and thanks to SL9
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Yes, I had this problem also. You can perform a hard reset, that will solve it but then you loose all your data and it is a pain! So I spent all day trying to find out how to fix it without doing a hard reset, and here are the results:
1. Open the Clock & Alarms app, and click on the Alarms tab. Make sure everything is unticked and unselected.
2. Install and launch MemMaid (http://www.dinarsoft.com/ - Note: MemMaid is shareware that expires after something like 30 days, or you might use another app which allows you to edit the notifications queue), and then press the Jump To softkey and click on the the Notification Queue option.
3. Press the Find Duplicate button, and make sure you say yes to deleting all duplicates.
4. Now you have to scroll through the list slowly, you must find all the ones which have this text in them and check the tickbox: \Windows\clock.exe.
5. Now you have located the rogue alarm notifications and ticked them, press the Delete button and confirm in the next step. Make sure you have NOT ticked/selected any other notifications except the clock.exe ones before you do this step, otherwise it can easily make your phone stop working!
6. Soft reset your device. When it has finished booting, you should notice that it doesn't vibrate madly with alarms for 20 minutes like it used to do before, and you should have a flashing green LED on the right instead of orange
7. Stop using the built-in clock & alarms app if you don't want this to happen again - it is too buggy! Find a replacement alarm app, there are loads of free ones out there!
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Thanks again to SL9
Condex

notification queue? can someone explain it to me?

hi all,
been testing quite a bit of software (spb mobile plus, omapclockplus, batterystatus-plugin, etc) and i often find that sooner or later my notifications are screwed - i don't get popups reminding me of meetings etc. i've tried cleaning the notification queue, removing duplicates etc, and always end up doing a hard reset and reinstall of all my software.
this is getting *annoying* - can anyone point me at an explanation of what's going wrong and how I should try and fix it?
ric

fixed.
landwomble said:
hi all,
been testing quite a bit of software (spb mobile plus, omapclockplus, batterystatus-plugin, etc) and i often find that sooner or later my notifications are screwed - i don't get popups reminding me of meetings etc. i've tried cleaning the notification queue, removing duplicates etc, and always end up doing a hard reset and reinstall of all my software.
this is getting *annoying* - can anyone point me at an explanation of what's going wrong and how I should try and fix it?
ric
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have just used a variety of tools, none of which did anything with automatic deletion. what actually *worked* was using memaid, and searching for all notifications with an action of "NONE" and deleting them all. soft reboot and all appears well.
now, how do i stop this happening again?

I would like to know too But, it seems to be gone so far. It seems like installing uninstalling software will cause this problem?

Info
Check out here:
http://www.scarybearsoftware.com/cn_overview.html

thanks
heronlen said:
Check out here:
http://www.scarybearsoftware.com/cn_overview.html
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i've seen that (can't install it right now as at work and exes in zips are blocked) but it's nothing particularly new. installing the battery_status plug in borked my calendar reminders last night and clearing all notification type "none" entries using memaid hasn't fixed it this time. i suspect the answer is to stop using plugins like spb mobile shell and battery_status. just restoring my wizard now via SPB backup to see if it helps...

From the software that you have mentioned, the only common software you and I have is this battery_status. However, it just doesnt seems right as I don't think battery_status mess with noti q.
Well, if you want to keep battery_status, you may want to take this drastic approach. The last time, when I've noticed the same problem, I've searched and try to solve the problem by clearning the noti q. However, accidentally, instead of removing doubtful noti, I removed EVERYTHING. However, to my surprise, after a soft reset, the system seems to have rebuilt the q, each and every reminder.
Do a backup first before this drastic approach.

landwomble said:
i've seen that (can't install it right now as at work and exes in zips are blocked) but it's nothing particularly new. installing the battery_status plug in borked my calendar reminders last night and clearing all notification type "none" entries using memaid hasn't fixed it this time. i suspect the answer is to stop using plugins like spb mobile shell and battery_status. just restoring my wizard now via SPB backup to see if it helps...
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Here you go the cab files

Careful
What the Scarybear notification removal software, it sometimes clears out them all, leaving activesync failing. If this happens run 'FixASRunAt', you can find it by search in the forums, this will ensure Activesync does not fail.

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funman said:
Here you go the cab files
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much appreciated, dude!

I had the same problem. Suddenly the tasks did not remind me anymore. The device turned on at the scheduled time but there was no notification popup or sound.
What I did was delete every task from the device, delete all the notifications related to TASKS.EXE with the tool found on this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=280104, sync with Outlook and move the deleted tasks from the Deleted items folder to the main Tasks folder so they're back, and that's it. It's working again!
Hope the tip helps someone!

Need help.. got problem with my alarm..

guys need help..
got one annoying problem bout my alarm... ive seem to disable all my alarms but the phone still recognizes my old settings.. how to explain this errr,,, well previously ive set the alarms at 6.00 am , 6.25 am and 6.30 am... after a short while the phone hangs so i soft reset it, then after that i've set the alarm to 7.00 am,7.25 and 7.30 am, (max 3 alarms can be set) but the prob is everyday the phone alarms set off at the 6++am time... even tho ive change them all to 7++AM and there is no way to disable them since only the 3, 7oclock alarms is avaible on the list...
so now i have a total of 6 alarms...
guys how to fix this without hard resetting,,,
TQ,

Do these 'phantom' alarms show up in your notifications queue?
You need something like Memmaid or Scarybear's Checknotifications to see these.
Look at the ones called calendar xxx or clock xxxx
Make sure from the descriptions that these are notifications you want to keep, if not delete them, also delete any duplicates.
DON'T delete any other notifications, these could be needed by the system to function correctly.
When I had similar alarm problems, I did this and found I had around 500 alarm/reminder notifications, some going way back, and some for May 2047!
When I got rid of these and the duplicates, it came down to around 40 and my alarms and reminders worked properly again.
Hope this works for you

ive downloaded Scarybear's Checknotifications but i do not know which to delete..zzz calender.exe or clock.exe?

Frostlance said:
ive downloaded Scarybear's Checknotifications but i do not know which to delete..zzz calender.exe or clock.exe?
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I am more familiar with SKtools and Memmaid than Scarybear, but the ones to avoid deleting are any titled repllog. If Scarybear has a delete duplicates function then you should be safe to use that. Entries for alarms may have a title such as windows\clock.exe. In sktools I can click such entries and it tells me what alarm it is and when it's set to go off (not sure about Scarybear)
Good luck
Mike
PS Get a good Full backup programme like SPB Backup and then you would not need to worry about deleting the wrong thing.

When you first run the app, it marks all the duplicates in red, just press clear to get rid of those.
The ones to look at individually are the ones like:
Clock.exe - then scrolling to the right, these should have an entry under dialog title like "daily alarm" and then dialogue text like "Alarm: Wake up 10.30"
Make sure that all these are for alarms you want, delete the ones which aren't.
the others are:
Calendar.exe, in the dialogue title these say POOM xxxx and in the dialogue text, there is a description of the appointment you have set the reminders for.
You should be able to tell from these if any are in the past ie reminders you thought you had dismissed, or indeed from ridiculously in the future like 10 years time.
Delete the unwanted ones of these.
Also worth checking are Tasks.exe entries
Plus any other apps you have which can put alarms on the system eg some notes applications
Then use the exit button to exit checknotifications and see if this improves things.
The problem seems to arise (on my device) in 2 ways.
Firstly, in the past a reminder will have come up, and I think I dismissed it, or while I was dismissing it, something else happened on the system, incoming call, another alarm, crash, anything really, and somehow the dismiss instruction never seems to have 'taken'.
The other way is using Windows mobile live client. It seems to put notifications in every time you soft reset, so you can end up with a lot of WLM duplicates. It also seems to sync a whole load of old 'stuff' to the device, together with old notifications
If you find this helps, do consider getting Memmaid or SK Tools. I use Memmaid every day to clear junk out of my device. It's not free like checknotifications, but it does a whole lot more and has repaid the investment many times over (they do a free trial). SK Tools does even more, but is also I think easier to do something 'silly' on.
Also, the one thing I couldn't do without is a good backup program. I always take a series of backups. That way a hard reset needn't mean hours of re-installation. Usually about 20 minutes max.

all right..
I did as you said and i think it worked.
Thank you so much for helping.

No probs.
Remember, this isn't usually a 1 off problem. If it does fix things, keep an eye on that queue for a while and make sure things don't build up again.

All of a sudden, alarms don't work!

Background:
ATT8525 with the ATTWM5 Rom
All of a sudden no alarm will work on this device. I have SPB Time and City Time Alarm both installed and ever since Saturday morning my daily alarms do not sound.
Thought it was a fluke at first but I've been playing with it tonight trying several different times and nothing seems to work. I even tried the built in WM5 alarm and it didn't work either.
This isn't related to the no sound issue I've inquired about in the past as right now all my OTHER sounds are working.
I've also done multiple soft resets and I've checked and double checked that my phone has the correct time and time zone.
Any ideas?
Thanks

It sounds like you have some duplicate/out of date/bad notifications in your notifications queue.
First do a full backup (just in case) then:
You need to use a 3rd party app such as Checknotifications (free), Memmaid, SK tools.
Use one of these to eliminate duplicate notifications and see if things start working again. If not, unfortunately you will have to go through each one manually. Look at the ones beginning Calendar and Clock. Make sure that the time/date for these is in the future. Delete the ones that are not. Leave alone the other notifications some of these are necessary for other processes.
See if it works now.
If not, you may have to do a hard reset. Good luck!

marisa4755 said:
It sounds like you have some duplicate/out of date/bad notifications in your notifications queue.
First do a full backup (just in case) then:
You need to use a 3rd party app such as Checknotifications (free), Memmaid, SK tools.
Use one of these to eliminate duplicate notifications and see if things start working again. If not, unfortunately you will have to go through each one manually. Look at the ones beginning Calendar and Clock. Make sure that the time/date for these is in the future. Delete the ones that are not. Leave alone the other notifications some of these are necessary for other processes.
See if it works now.
If not, you may have to do a hard reset. Good luck!
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Thanks for the reply.
Memaid did the trip as it was a built up queue of notifications. Not sure what caused that but at least it's fixed without having to do a hard reset.
This never happened with my 8125, strange.
Also, this fixed a couple of other issues I was having.
My 8525 had stopped pairing with my automobile's BT and it did this morning, and the last few days the phone and stopped doing the first active sync of the day (at 0700) automatically. It did this morning.
Looks like I may check into purchasing Memaid. It's a handy little program.

I have to admit, it's one of the first apps on any device I own. Especially now that it has a reg editor too.
Beware, you may need to do the notifications queue clearout quite frequently, just keep an eye on it for a day or 2. I've found that if you use windows live mobile, this puts 3 or 4 duplicates on your system at every soft reset! Don't you just love microsoft applications?

marisa4755 said:
I have to admit, it's one of the first apps on any device I own. Especially now that it has a reg editor too.
Beware, you may need to do the notifications queue clearout quite frequently, just keep an eye on it for a day or 2. I've found that if you use windows live mobile, this puts 3 or 4 duplicates on your system at every soft reset! Don't you just love microsoft applications?
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Gee I wonder if the iPhone's have to do this?
Sorry, couldn't resist.

They probably would have to if they were allowed to install 3rd party applications!

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They probably would have to if they were allowed to install 3rd party applications!
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Sharp answer Marisa4755 - I also think texas should be punished for that uncalled for remark; I'm thinking 6 month ban (I always was too lenient )
Mike

Nah
I'll just retaliate by posting on the iphone-developers forums

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Nah
I'll just retaliate by posting on the iphone-developers forums
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Oh thank you.
At first I thought you all were just ganging up on my since I'm across the pond from you all. <G>
Kinda back to my original question.
What is up with the Notification Queue? I currently have 37 "time based" entries. A few of these are obvious. But I have a whole mess named "\\.\Notifications\NamdedEvents\Scripts:0x0023B3D0" and a couple of dozen more with similar hexadecimal(?) endings.
They are all "dated to run" on September 26, 2007 at various times of the morning.
The thing is, nothing is in my calender on that date. So what in the world are those entries? Are they safe to delete?
Thanks

Don't mind us, if you play with Windows mobile, you just have to have a laugh as often as possible (makes up for all the crying!).
On your alarms/reminders/notifications etc, do you have the setting on for 'flash light'? If so, do you have this set for no limit? If so, I think these are your scripts as above. If they are set as no limit, I think they go on for around 40 days or so. So probably they relate to an event 40 ish days before 26 September.
They might also relate to some other software you are running. I understand TomTom puts some strange notifications in.
If so, they are PROBABLY fine to delete. As long as you do a full backup before touching them, then if it all goes pear shaped, just restore your backup.
Whatever you do, don't touch the repllog.exe entries. These relate to activesync and if you delete these, you will have a lot of trouble with synchronising.
If, however you do accidentally delete a repllog file that you should't, Mike has written an excellent guide on how to get it back!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=302459&highlight=repllog.exe+activesync

marisa4755 said:
Don't mind us, if you play with Windows mobile, you just have to have a laugh as often as possible (makes up for all the crying!).
On your alarms/reminders/notifications etc, do you have the setting on for 'flash light'? If so, do you have this set for no limit? If so, I think these are your scripts as above. If they are set as no limit, I think they go on for around 40 days or so. So probably they relate to an event 40 ish days before 26 September.
They might also relate to some other software you are running. I understand TomTom puts some strange notifications in.
If so, they are PROBABLY fine to delete. As long as you do a full backup before touching them, then if it all goes pear shaped, just restore your backup.
Whatever you do, don't touch the repllog.exe entries. These relate to activesync and if you delete these, you will have a lot of trouble with synchronising.
If, however you do accidentally delete a repllog file that you should't, Mike has written an excellent guide on how to get it back!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=302459&highlight=repllog.exe+activesync
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Thanks. I think the message notification thing is the reason. I do have the flash light checked and their seems to be a correlation between the entries and the number of messages I currently have in OL.
Thanks again for all the help!
Hopefully I can return the favor sometime.
David

I hope by now you have solved your (our) problem. I was able to fix my problem by installing a free program from Burr Oak called Wakeup Tweak.
I never ever RAN the program - I just installed it. During installation, it asked me if I wanted to use default notifications and I said yes.
I then tested an appointment alarm (before running Wakeup Tweak) and the alarm worked.

Hey there... I used to have the same problem under WM5 (I think it was a known fault and the idea was to fix that for WM6). My reminders didn't work, and my alarm, initially came on but I could not dismiss it, and so came back on the moment I switched my phone back on etc. I found that using Pocket Mechanic and then deleting all 'clock.exe' entries i which have the word obsolete added under the type column solves the problem. I think some people have experienced problems doing this and it messed up their device. I, personally, never had any problems but you may want to back up things just in case. Again, it's not a long-term solution and I had to do that every couple of weeks. The deleting of duplicate notification did not, for me, restore reminders etc. I have to say ever since I upgraded to WM6 I have not had this problem so I guess Microsoft fixed this issue.