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Hello XDA users....
I think you know it all, that the ROMkitchen is a fine application to get our device nearly perfect.
But the ROMkitchen is out of date. This means many applications aren´t not in the actual version. Therefore Auburnham and I thought to update the applications.
The problem is, that the amount of added applications to the kitchen is to big to make this happen by us two. Because of this problem I´m searching for some people, which wants to help.
Another problem is, that you need for this a device that haven´t got installed that piece of software. This means that when you want to help me with Phonext for example, you must have a device without any version of Phonext installed.
So, if you are going to help me make a snapshot of your device with the ssnap - Application.
Install the software.
Make again an Snapshot of your device with the ssnap - Application.
Send these two files to [email protected] with inforamtion about the program you have installed and the exact Version you have installed.
When I´ve got analyzed the two files i will reply to you with a wishlist of files that have been created on your device. After sending me the files, i can update the kitchen....
IF there are any quesions or anything else, feel free to contact me....
Regards
Stefan
Good Idea :
I'd be happy to contribute.
Tell me which application you want me to install and I'll do it provided that I find the procedure (that I've seen being posted elsewere in this forum).
NB : I'm using XDA I with a Frenchy 3.16 and be stuck with it :evil: ; so there is no chance for me to re-build a new a geniun 3.16 Rom again.
My XDA is all up and running.
I've overcome my Language FRA error message after purchasing a SD card reader and loading the ROM through the bootloader. 8)
Now, I'm about to install ttn 3 on my XDA. Do you want list it in your kitchen ?
What do you need exactly ?
I would be happpy to help. I am a regular user of your site and appreciate the effort that has been put into it.
I understand the effort needed to keep things working and up to date.
Pierre
I'm in!!
Just let me know what you need and when and I will maker every endevour to help.
Thanks for all you do
macudc
Check out
http://lumpistefan.dyndns.org/update.html
Select and download the programs you want to take and send an email to me, that i can remove the files.
Follow the instructions.
If there are any questions ----> Email me....
Thx for Helping.
Stefan
Tanguy said:
Now, I'm about to install ttn 3 on my XDA. Do you want list it in your kitchen ?
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Tomtom wouldn´t fit in the free space. Already didn´t work for TomTom 2.
Maybe i can include the Gps part....
Stefan
LumpiStefan,
OK on the priniple for GPS. How to best handeled tha case of a sotfware GPS 3.0 on (CD's) that has an upgrade GPS 3.03 to be dowloaded from the web site.
Does the snapshot comes at the end of the 2nd install ?
Tanguy
Howdy all,
I just noticed we had a thread started on this project. I've been working on updates over the weekend and noticed there have already been quite a few. So here are my contributions, including updates and additions:
Upgrades:
Converter CE 1.8c
StorageTools 1.9
PocketNav 2.73 (no snapshot necessary, executable only)
EzWAP 2.5
Polyphonic Ringtone Support (no snapshot necessary, additional files for \Windows directory only)
New Addtions:
Resco File Explorer 2003 * http://www.resco-net.com/explorer.asp
Resco Picture Viewer 4.11 * http://www.resco-net.com/picview.asp
Pocket Player 2.5 * http://www.conduits.com/ce/player/default.asp
Pocket Music 3.0 * http://www.pocketmind.com/pocketmusic.htm
Microsoft Money 2003 http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/downloads/money.mspx
Olive Tree BibleReader 2.31e051 http://www.olivetree.com/handheld/WinCE/WinCEBible.html
AOL Instant Messanger 2.0 http://www.aim.com/get_aim/win_ce/latest_wince.adp
WESTTEK ClearVue Suite * http://www.westtek.com/pocketpc/suite/
QuickTasks 2.8 * http://www.scarybearsoftware.com/ppc_qt_overview.html
InkSpot Newsgroup reader * http://www.dejavusoftware.com/inkce/index.html
Macromedia Flash player 6 http://www.macromedia.com/software/flashplayer/pocketpc/2002.html
Animated Today 2002 (not necessary, requires flash player) * http://www.gigabytesol.com/anitoday.htm
* Trial version, must be registered
I've sent these snapshots off to Stefan, along with the files that I thought might be necessary for these programs. This is going to be great for all of us, but a lot of work for Stefan. We all owe him a great deal, so take him out for a nice meal the next time you see him.
Shawn
LumpiStefan said:
Tomtom wouldn´t fit in the free space. Already didn´t work for TomTom 2.
Maybe i can include the Gps part....
Stefan
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I don't want to make this any more complicated than it is, but for some programs, it just doesn't make any sense to install to the XDA memory. Most of the media players and "Misc" programs just take up too much unnecessary device memory when they would work just as well on the SD Card (if that's available).
The problem is that those huge programs require just a few small files to be placed on the device itself. So after installing a few of these types of programs, you've used up a lot of device memory from these small files, even though you installed the program to your SD Card.
Is there a way to alter the kitchen a bit to allow cooking of the necessary device files only, and allow the user to later install the program to the SD Card (being careful not to overwrite the files in ROM with files in RAM)?
For instance, with the TomTom program, if you start with a clean ROM and SD card, take a snapshot, then install the program to your SD card, then take another snapshot, you could determine what files need to be on the device, and what files don't need to be on the device, and allow users to either cook the entire program or just the necessary files in the ROM. (Note: This is a good example of a run-on sentence). Would this be a difficult feature to add to the kitchen?
Shawn
auburnham said:
For instance, with the TomTom program, if you start with a clean ROM and SD card, take a snapshot, then install the program to your SD card, then take another snapshot, you could determine what files need to be on the device, and what files don't need to be on the device, and allow users to either cook the entire program or just the necessary files in the ROM. (Note: This is a good example of a run-on sentence). Would this be a difficult feature to add to the kitchen?
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Maybe the esiest Option is adding a new Select Point for the kitchen like "misc", "System Tools", "Phone" ....
This means having the programs double in the kitchen, but how cares.
I don't know exactly, but when you install a program to the SD-Card, could you select the part where to place it?
If yes, this could be a big problem. Many of the programs store the path in the registry.
If no, i could also provide a ZIP-file, where the rest of the programfiles are in, hust to unzip to the Storagecard.....
auburnham said:
We all owe him a great deal, so take him out for a nice meal the next time you see him.
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Sounds good. I'm hungry all the time.... ;-)
Stefan
LumpiStefan said:
I don't know exactly, but when you install a program to the SD-Card, could you select the part where to place it?
If yes, this could be a big problem. Many of the programs store the path in the registry.
If no, i could also provide a ZIP-file, where the rest of the programfiles are in, hust to unzip to the Storagecard.....
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I believe this really depends on (1) how well the program was written, and (2) if you can install the program with CabInst (i.e. has a cab installation).
For example, I try to keep my SD Card organized and tidy so if I use CabInst I install the program to an appropriate folder on the SD Card. If I have to install the program from the desktop, I install the program to the SD Card root, then try to move the program to an appropriate folder and update the shortcut. Most of the time this works without even changing any registry entries, but sometimes it doesn't. Two examples from the above list of applications are AOL Instant Messenger 2.0 and Pocketmind PocketMusic 3.0. To function correctly, they both need to be in their original installation folders on the SD Card.
But perhaps the best solution would be to have an associated .zip file to go on the SD Card, as you suggested.
Shawn
Now the kitchen should be up 2 date again.
Only missing is PocketConsole and the Part "Software that needs to register"
So happy cooking and again Thx a lot to all users that helped me.....
Stefan
A Windows-way for cooking a ROM would be great for two reasons: 1) Don't hassle your server with lots of traffic and 2) Practical. Advanced users could cook a ROM without having a PC with Unix.
For example I tried cooking the Spanish version of the ROM and not all the programs I chose were installed and the worst thing is that the boot logo was just garbage, it was showing program code on the screen as a logo
Regards,
Marton
Marton said:
For example I tried cooking the Spanish version of the ROM and not all the programs I chose were installed and the worst thing is that the boot logo was just garbage, it was showing program code on the screen as a logo
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Ok. Fixed the problem with the bootscreen.....
Tried also adding as much application, and all have been installed.
Can you tell me, what files / programs are missing?
No one else told me that there have been a problem wirth this ROM. I think it's because of the situation that most of the useres are using WM2003 ROMS....
You can also use the kitchen under "Windows" just have to set up a Cyguin environment on your system....
Also i didn't know how many Kitchen's are implemented by other users, but mine one is the only "official". You can't believe that everyone would be able to set it up.......
Stefan
Thanks Stefan!!!!!!
Now it seems to work but if EzWAP is selected, it throws a Log error when trying to cook...
Cheers,
Marton
P.S.: Do you know if a Spanish WM2003 exists?
Edit: This is the error:
Cannot fit files in given sections
Error splitting files
Just cooked a ROM... I selected the "Windows Mobile XDA" Boot Screen and now it is not garbage anymore but now it shows mirrored and upside down...
Any ideas?
Marton said:
Just cooked a ROM... I selected the "Windows Mobile XDA" Boot Screen and now it is not garbage anymore but now it shows mirrored and upside down...
Any ideas?
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Hello Marton.
I relaised that this is a problem with the Image.
This Image have been sent to me, and i ithink it's created wih the wrong parameters....
Stefan
I did the Big Hack successfully and gained 27 mb of space on my O2 mini (I was a happy man). Prior to this, at the time of Big Hack I stored a copy of my original rom and my extended rom.
Subsequently, in about 2 weeks time I accidentally deleted some key files while using SK Tools. Due to this the ‘close button’ at the top corner was not visible even after soft reset. The “running programs” application was also missing. Because of this I did a hard reset.
When I tried to load programs into the new storage gained, I found that the storage area is full (total storage memory 26.72 MB, free 0.00 MB. No programs are being written on to this area. I did another hard reset. Still no luck. My active sync is working fine with contacts, calendar etc. getting synced very fine. Only, I cannot install programs to my new big storage area as it shows the full area as full.
Total Main Memory is - 57.41
Storage Program
Allocated 24.39 MB Allocated 33.02 MB
In use 2.08 MB In use 10.63 MB
Free 22.31MB Free 22.39 MB
Please help me. What should I do ? Do I need to visit the Service Centre in Mumbai and ask them to restore my device back to the level at which I purchased it ? Do I flash the BIG ROM once again ? Do I flash the saved, original RoM. Somehow, when I try to flash in boot loader, the screen only shows “Serial 1.0”, but it is not prompting me to Press power to flash.
sorry, im not to good wid my magician, how do i do a big hack, and what does it do?
Galahad: I would suggest re-flashing with your bigstorage'd ROM. That should re-partition everything hopefully back to bigstorage status. If that doesn't work, reflash with a normal rom, and then start from scratch.
Mark - I presume by "Big Hack" Galahad means the BigStorage hack, and not just playing with his dangly bits. Have a look on the wiki and various threads. Olt's guide here is a good one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=37914&highlight=bigstorage
and this is my preferred technique:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/vie...t=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=bigrom
What this does is:
by default the Magician is set up to have a "storage" area for user use of about 7mb, and an "extended" area that we can really use, containing a bunch of operator stuff that you might or might not need.
The hack turns the extended area into storage, so you get 27mb, to do with as you please. It's well worth doing if you use a wifi card for example, but if you have a large sd card anyway, and never remove it, you're not losing much.
V
Vijay thanks for your reply and notes. I have visited your links and taken hard copies for Note reference.
I did a romupdate and thru that I tricked my device to prompt me to flash my SD Card with the saved Big Rom. Once everything was done I got my 27mb space. I notes that it already had 5 mb written. I ignored that and went on to reinstall all my programs to this area.
One more help that I need [don'nt know if I should start a new thread] is how to get to install the application "O2 connect". I installed individual cab files from the saved EXT ROM. After installing 4 to 5 O2 connect cab files whenever I click on O2 connect I still get the message "O2 connect can only run on O2 devices"
The links that you gave me "how do I search for these links"? I do not get the search results for what I want to search in the search dialog box.
Galahad: it's not a piece of software I've ever used, but you have to remember to search for the cracked version. Have you tried the ftp? It's likely to be on there. However, many people seem to suggest it's not very good... I reserve judgement!
Remember to formulate your searches with correct boolean terms etc, it does work if you know what you're looking for and are very careful...
V
These are the files i used to get the o2 connect to work.
Thanks buddies for the replies and the tips.
Nash: I read your post. Did you mean to put a link for me to look up the files that you talked about ? Cause I don't see any files. Maybe I am missing something :?
Buddy these are CAB files in a RaR zipped
Tried using the individual cab files in the RAR file. Installed the same. It did not help me one bit. Got the same error "O2 connect is meant to work with O2 devices only"
I guess if I need the latest ROM I will pickup the same from the XDA forum.
Hi everybody,
could I install blackberry on extended ROM?
does anybody tried to install any application
on extended rom or ext.rom is usable only
for storing cab files in case of hard reset?
I have 8 MB free, so I am thinking to release
some main memory.
thanx
hey, nobody knows?? pls, does anybody install anything
on Extended rom??
Yes you can
Hi there,
I have been using the Uni for some time successfully without much problems. You can install the blackberry (BB) service on the Ext Rom but if you get a lot of messages with attachments etc. then the memory space in the ExtRom being just 9.9 MB would get filled up soon. I use both the BB RIM and BBES services on 2 different phones a XDA Exec and a T-mobile MDA Pro. One in India with Bharti Cellular as Service Provider (BB-RIM) and one in UK with T-mobile as service provider(BB-BES) service. It works fine for me. Wish there was a way to change the default storage folder for the BB mails. Don't install it on the SD card cause the moment the phone switches off the SD card is switched off too and the BB service will go off too. The only option is to install it in the main storage memory or if you have an unlocked ExtRom then there .
Also if you hard reset then the apps will stop working cause on hard reset the registry is cleared of installs other than the windows installs. You will have to re-install BB if you do a hard reset.
Ciao
thx on answer,
I know that is bad to install on sd card because if you turn off
device, sd card is turned off too.
I didn't know that extended rom is always on.
thanx on answer
blackberry connect software
can some one please send me a link to install the blackberry software on jas jar
i have the service active from my service provider;mobilink in Pakistan that is.
but the current software that i have does not complete the connection & therefore i cant find the connectivity.
please help.
I've got a slight problem with this device, probably also with all other WM5.0 devices.
There's this application which I have developed to operate as a shell around Windows Mobile, so users have limited functionality. This is to relieve the people at the helpdesk, since users can't mess up settings and install virusses anymore (at least not that easy).
The way I installed the software on Windows Mobile 2003 (SE) was to install my Autorun.exe in the \Storage\2577\ directory and my cab-files, which needed to be installed, in the \Storage\Main\ directory.
I also used the folders \Storage\Downloads\ and \Storage\Installed\, but to keep things simple I won't mention further anymore.
This solution worked like a charm. After every hard-reset/cold-boot my application was installed again and users could happily operate their devices once more.
Now, as the WM2K3 devices aren't available anymore, I need to port the application to WM5.0. After some minor modifications the software now finally works on WM5.0, except for the installation.
It appears that there isn't an Internal Storage folder anymore. This is probably because of the fact that WM5.0 has the so called 'persistant memory'.
The problem is, the memory is completely erased when doing a hard-reset/cold-boot. I do this by pressing the 3 buttons on the side and pressing the [reset]-button also. After a while the device will perform the hard reset (as usually).
Now, I've read in the Google groups that the root-directory of WM5.0 devices operates as the internal storage, but it appears that this information is faulty. The root folder is also emptied after a hard-reset.
Also my contacts and appointments dissapear after the hard-reset, which is normal WM2003 behaviour, but I thought they were persisted on WM5.0. Perhaps they only meant they are persisted when the battery is drained.
Well, in short:
Where can I put files on a WM5.0 device, specifically the Qtek 9100, so they aren't deleted after a hard-reset?
Is it even possible on a WM5.0 device, if so which device(s)?
Quick solution would be to use a SD-card and let my Autorun work with the OnCardInsert function, but that doesn't really float my boat....
WM5 uses its Extended ROM (Ext-ROM) to install customized software, which survive a hardreset.
Even though the answer isn't exactly what I was looking/hoping for, it did help a little.
First I was looking for the search-string 'persistant memory' or 'persistant storage' which gave numerous results, but none of them with answers to my problem.
Now I used Extended ROM as a search-string and that did help a bit better. Didn't even think about using this before, oh well, it appears posting a question does help indeed.
One of the answers I found was this:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESystem StorageManager ProfilesTRUEFFS_DOC1]
"MountHidden"=dword:00000000
"Folder"="ExtendedROM"
"PartitionDriver"=""
"Name"=""
"DefaultFileSystem"="FATFS"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESystemStorageManagerAutoLoadTRUEFFS_DOC1]
"Bootphase"=dword:00000002
"Order"=dword:00000001
"LoadFlags"=dword:00000001
"DriverPath"=" DriversBuiltInTrueFFS1"
The bold registry values need to be edited. This way you should be able to see the Extended ROM in the file explorer.
Well, it doesn't. You still can't see it. It is however possible to access the extended rom and write files to it by making files in \\Extended_ROM\\.
Still trying to figure out how to copy/move CAB-files to this directory, but that should only be a matter of time. Otherwise, the work-around is already in my head
total commander would do the trick, just type "\extended_rom" and copy up to 9.5mb of cab's
I have been given an 02 XDA ll at work to carry out some decent homes surveys .
The special software for the surveys has been installed but every time the battery is allowed to go flat the XDA re-installs windows and various apps on restart but loses the special survey software . This has to be re-installed which takes about a week to organise (Council)
Shouldn't all software the OS and apps be installed on non volatile memory ?
Can someone explain what the root structure is in these things and where software should be installed to please.
It has a external 1Gb memory . I can transfer the survey data and photos etc to that for safety . Couldn't we install and run the survey software from the memory card also?
xdaII's with wm2003 have all apps in normal mem and they will be lost if the batt goes belly up
with wm5 wm6 wm6.1 one get some flash storage and programs installed there and on the sdcard will make it passed a flat battery
but since the storage is limited in size
people use ramdisks which use normal mem as a disk
and that too can be cleared at flatbatt
thanks for your quick reply.
If all the apps are stored in non volatile memory where do they get restored from when the batt goes flat ? they must be stored somewhere in non volatile for restore purposes.?
Don't understand this at all.
If the XDA can store the OS and apps somewhere shouldn't my employers install the special app in the same place so that it doesn't get lost when the batt goes flat?
Can the firmware be updated on these ? if so what difference would it make
Thanks for any help
the os itself is located in flash and stay there unless it's flashed with another rom
on WM2003 many htc devices have a list of install cabs in what they call extented rom which are auto executed after a hardreset or 100% flat batt
one can open the extented rom and add install cab's oneself but the space in limited so it may require other of the auto install apps are removed
with wm5 and later it's the exntented rom which is used as normal data storage
so it's not really present there
yes the firmware/rom / os can be changed as i state when i describe the diff between 2003 and wm5 or 6 or 6.1
how one goes about that you can read in the wiki
or in the rom from the wm5 or wm6 sub forums you download they include a txt file
describing step by step what to do
thanks Rudegar
I have found a good explanation of the different types of memory in these pocket PC devices Here
If our IT remove redundant OS files and some of the unwanted apps in the flash memory there might be room to install the special survey software (Anite)into the flash memory instead of into Ram that way we wouldn't lose the damn app every time the batteries go flat ?
Alternatively would it be possible to install and run the Anite app onto the SD card ? that way it would be safe and easier to re-install from and PC
Are the OS upgrades WM5 and WM6 available free to download or do they require a license like Winxp etc?
the roms wm5 and wm6 is not sold by ms they only provide them to the pda makers
so you cant get hold of them that way but if you go to the subforums for himalaya wm5 and wm6 you can find plenty of versions for free
thank you for your helpful advice. Much appreciated
help me please
my XDA II is shuting down after I remove my charger from it... so the last option to use it is by not removing it from being charged... but when the battery meter reacher 100% it automatically reboot and my OS need ro reinstall...
my question are:
1: why does my XDA had that problem?
2: how can i trouble shoot it?
3: what is the best way to fix it? 100% sure...
please help me with this problem...
thanks...
please.. email your answers here..
[email protected]
thanks a lot..
Sounds very much like the battery has expired and is not holding a charge. Do you have a spare battery you could test with?