Dear everyone,
I thought that the chip used for bluetooth in the S100 is a CSR chip. On their site they claim they have their own stack for this chip and this would support all mayor profiles.
http://www.csr.com/development/bchs.htm
Athough it seems to be a stack for developers they also have a full stack for windows mobile:
Ready to-use solutions
In addition to the portable solution, CSR offers ready-to-use software for the following platforms:
Linux
Symbian OS
Win CE
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Does anybody know where to get this stack or how to contact them? I have emailed them a few days ago but so far no answer yet.
further diging
ok, digging some deeper i found out that the stack they have is called "bluecore-pda-ce". Googling on it i found a pdf describing the stack but still cant seem to find a clue to where it can be downloaded.
http://www.csrsupport.com/download/288/BlueCore PDA datasheet (bcpda-ds-001Pa).pdf
i have the same guess
so,any new progress?
Related
well while I was surfing the net looking for an ultimate solution that would put our endless search for a stable fully featured bluetooth stack to rest, I came acroos something very interesting. Toshiba have released a new bluetooth stack that runs on all thier toshiba pdas. Now as i read further some guys on the net were able to modify some registry settings and got it to run on HP pdas. Hell, others were able to hook thier USB bluetooth dongle to thier pdas and according to what they say it's working like a charm.
So I thought, well, if someone were able to modify the registry keys for the Toshiba software, maybe we can make it read the HTC bluetooth hardware.
Onething I would like to know is what type of hardware do HTC use as a built in bluetooth device in their Himalaya version. I mean there must be some sort of bluetooth chipset they use for the Himalaya Model. And are there any technical sheets for this bluetooth chipset.
Finally I provide u with the bluetooth software I came acroos today. Hope someone can modify it so we can use it. Software works great and seams to load without any problems, but the only problem I faced was that it would not recognise my bluetooth device, instead it was searching for a Bluetooth CF Card or the Toshiba built in Bluetooth chipset.
Unfortunately, as it says in the readme, it won't solve our most pressing issue: a decent handsfree connection.
Hey, could someone please tell me which is the most stable version of the widcomm bluetooth stack as I have tried a few versions and I didn't get on well with them at all due to it not even starting the bluetooth. I am running Windows Mobile 2003 Second Edition on my himalaya.
Thank you,
s1nn0n
If I'm not mistaken there is not one available yet which is working on XDA II with W2k3 Se installed.
But there are threads in which people are discussing how to patch it.
Mark
just looked at the specifications for the xda atom,
wm 5.0
bluetooth 1, 2 compliant
including A2DP & AVRCP????
how did they do that????????? :?:
http://www.seeo2.com/product/XdaAtom/template/XdaAtomProductInfo.vm
Correct me if I'm wrong (and I'm sure someone will), but isn't that hardware compatibility?
I think they still need to have the WM5 AKU2 updated ROM for the software side just like the rest of us.
FYI: I've been informed by iMate Tech Support that AKU2 for K-Jam is in
the last phase of testing
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(as at 18th Jan 2006).
i thought the delay was compatability with wm5
cause 2003 se users can download an upgrade for a2dp
i've done it for my wifes s110.
Yeah if you have an XDA 2i you can install the Broadcomm stack update to get A2DP.
This doesn't work on phones that use Microsoft stack though (this applies to the Wizard)
i thought the delay was compatability with wm5
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That's what I was trying to get across yes :lol:. The specs for the O2 Atom referred to in the OP indicate the hardware compatibility with Bluetooth A2DP, but the Microsoft stack pre AKU2 lacks software compatibility.
Sorry if I wasn't clear - my caffeine levels need adjustment.
and i suppose the broadcomm stack can't go on the wizard
I would love to try some multiplayer game on my wizard, which comunicates using Bluetooth with another PPC.
I found such a gameunder the name: Billiard Master 2
Version: 2.03
Release Date: 5 March 2005
http://www.mobirate.com
Excellent billiard and pool simulation game for PocketPC with realistic physics, good hi-res graphics and multilingual interface.
Features:
* Bluetooth multiplayer (play against your friend)
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6 February 2006
Bowling Master for PocketPC now WM5 compatible.
So now all our products are WM5 compatible
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Bluetooth is only supported on PocketPC devices with
Broadcom(WIDCOMM) drivers v1.4 or later. This should be true on almost all PocketPC devices.
To check the version of Bluetooth goto Bluetooth settings->About
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Is there a way to workaround the fact that WM5 does not use Broadcom?
//Robert
i need widcomm drivers
WM5 uses Broadcom
You can find Broadcom stack in hx4700 with WM 5.0 :lol:
i want to enable bluetooth PAN user driver
I've got a 4700 with WWE M2005 and if someone needs this stack from me then please show me how to do it.
I'm verry interested in the Widcomm stack because it works better at the moment then the MS one om my Wizard.
Cheers,
Drifter
I was under the impression that the Bluetooth stack implementation is an OEM option only. Whoever did the WM5 implementation on the Wizard (HTC?) made the decision to use M$'s bluetooth stack instead of WidComm's. As such, I don't believe it can be easily lifted...
i once installed widcomm on my Wizard and PAN network connection was enabled. i found widcomm for windows CE on the ftp of XDA uploads. now everything is deleted . if you install widcomm you get the PAN enabled under networkcards that is all i need so i could get a connection without activesync on every pc. is there anybody who can post the Widcomm for windows CE drivers on XDA please?
widcomm 1.5000
its on www.indoxda.net/index.php?nId=324
haven't tried it myself so use at your own risk
please post if it works for u I'm thinking of trying it myself
DUDE, thank u VERY much! finally someone who helps me i'll try it if my phone will be wrecked you will hear
it works partially, it can't activate bluetooth because Comm manager is already running. does anyone know how i can disable commanneger bluetooth so i can run widcomm only? you can see on the screenshots he alsol has comm disabled and he tells also :|
hmmm... "not easily lifted" isn't much of a problem to the people here . Great link galleon1388!
Btw: there's a lot of folks at TreoCentral who would like to see this work as the Treo700W BT implementation is a pos.
"Bluetooth Radio failed to turn on due to insufficient driver memory available"
Performing a normal reset doesn't help things.
I followed the directions to the letter. Can someone help here?
jwzg said:
"Bluetooth Radio failed to turn on due to insufficient driver memory available"
Performing a normal reset doesn't help things.
I followed the directions to the letter. Can someone help here?
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dude i have the same, take a look at this topic http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache...6+widcomm+for+wm2005&hl=nl&gl=nl&ct=clnk&cd=3
if you manage to fix it PLZ tell me, i'm trying too!
hmm my audio doesn't seem to work after the widcomm :S
Same here...I cannot access the link to which you are referring...tks to the gov. of the PRC.
Guys, you will have to wait a bit longer.
Look at this thread
http://buzzdev.net/component/option,com_simpleboard/Itemid,59/func,view/id,14572/catid,26/
Seems that Widcomm is unstable under WM2005
Cheers,
Drifter
not released
my audio isnt working anymore, anybody know how to fix plz????
Is it possible ?! I know it's been asked before but I hope that someone has new answers...as others, I get this error:
"The Bluetooth Radio failed to turn ON due to insufficient driver memory available. You must perform a normal reset before you can turn ON the Bluetooth Radio."
I tried everything, I even f*cked up my MS stack (which is ****ty btw).
It must be some registry setting(s) something related to the maximum memory allocated to drivers in WinMobile...
Thanks guys
up!
exaclty same problem...
trying to change bt stack because of the poor sound quality on A2DP using the MS one...
I would recommend you do some more searching. This has been tried already and nobody has been able to ever get it working on the Wizard.
I am
perhaps by "tunning" the Ms a2dp dll...
Seems that only the encoding part is bad...
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I am
perhaps by "tunning" the Ms a2dp dll...
Seems that only the encoding part is bad...
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Strange some peopel reported "high quality" with the Wizard A2DP. I've never managed to fine tune it to reach the quality of my other A2DP-capable PDA's. See my remarks and the hacks I've tried in my A2DP-related articles.
ok i've read your articles.
Seems everything's possible if you have a widcomm stack...
The poor guys stuck with MS one can just cry until some clever guy releases a compatible version for theire pda (S200 for me)..
I've tried almost every stacks, hard-reseted a thousand times my prophet, no one seems to work
As I'm interested by the P3600 I've sent a mail to the HTC guys just to know with which stack will it be coming....
If you have any lead...... I'll the first to explore it
I'm a developer in a french company but I don't to that kind of dev so I wiosh I could try to find a solution myself but I doubt...
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ok i've read your articles.
Seems everything's possible if you have a widcomm stack...
The poor guys stuck with MS one can just cry until some clever guy releases a compatible version for theire pda (S200 for me)..
I've tried almost every stacks, hard-reseted a thousand times my prophet, no one seems to work
As I'm interested by the P3600 I've sent a mail to the HTC guys just to know with which stack will it be coming....
If you have any lead...... I'll the first to explore it
I'm a developer in a french company but I don't to that kind of dev so I wiosh I could try to find a solution myself but I doubt...
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Did you try disabling the MS BT stack similar to as is described in the AximSite thread? It's not done exactly the same way (because, then, the x50/x51 hack would work on these HTC devices too), "just" similar to it.
Menneisyys said:
Did you try disabling the MS BT stack similar to as is described in the AximSite thread? It's not done exactly the same way (because, then, the x50/x51 hack would work on these HTC devices too), "just" similar to it.
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You suggest me to disable the MS bt stack "the HTC device way" and then try to install the widcomm one like on other devices?
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You suggest me to disable the MS bt stack "the HTC device way" and then try to install the widcomm one like on other devices?
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Kinda. I really recommend the "original" AximSite thread - there, you MAY find out how the MS BT stack can be disabled so that the driver memory is freed up. (The case was the same on the Dell when we started the Widcomm project.)
backup ok!
let the tests begin !!
I'll keep in touch
hummm
I've blanked my S200
desactivated MS BT stack ==> 26mo of free ram at this point
installed the stack from axim site
same memory error...
I don't think it's a "real" memory problem but it is clear that the problem comes from the initialization part...
Just a thought but:
Dell AXIM, XDA atom, BlueAngel, ... => the devices on which the stack works have got a common caracteristic : the CPU : XScale one...
On the other side, the prophet, the magician, the wisard,... => the devices on which everything seems correct with the widcomm stack but still refuses to start it, avec an OMAP CPU...
Perhaps it's a newbie reflexion, perhaps it has nothing to do with it... but perhaps the initalization process has some CPU specific routine...
Still investigating, still newbie in the pocketPC environement :$
Sounds pretty good for a newbies speculation. I was reading about this (randomly scanning thru all topics) and wondered how much memory exactly did you gain by removing the bt stack? I dont even use BT (might get a headset, but prob not) and if its worth the memory gain, I might try to disable it myself.
baramuse said:
hummm
I've blanked my S200
desactivated MS BT stack ==> 26mo of free ram at this point
installed the stack from axim site
same memory error...
I don't think it's a "real" memory problem but it is clear that the problem comes from the initialization part...
Just a thought but:
Dell AXIM, XDA atom, BlueAngel, ... => the devices on which the stack works have got a common caracteristic : the CPU : XScale one...
On the other side, the prophet, the magician, the wisard,... => the devices on which everything seems correct with the widcomm stack but still refuses to start it, avec an OMAP CPU...
Perhaps it's a newbie reflexion, perhaps it has nothing to do with it... but perhaps the initalization process has some CPU specific routine...
Still investigating, still newbie in the pocketPC environement :$
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i've read a lot about widcomm bt on wizard, and i found the following :
the original ms bt stack calls msusbhub dll, which means that bt in HTC devices uses usb to get connected, and the widcomm stack tries to connect to an internal serial port.
conclusion : widcomm stack can run on OMAP, but we have to write a wrapper between usb and the internal serial port.
anyone can do that ? / i am not enough experienced, in ppc development, not even in driver dev.
The Wizard contains a TI BT RF front-end no? Anyone know the part number?
Read http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/in...h_stack_for_the_htc_wiza&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1