well while I was surfing the net looking for an ultimate solution that would put our endless search for a stable fully featured bluetooth stack to rest, I came acroos something very interesting. Toshiba have released a new bluetooth stack that runs on all thier toshiba pdas. Now as i read further some guys on the net were able to modify some registry settings and got it to run on HP pdas. Hell, others were able to hook thier USB bluetooth dongle to thier pdas and according to what they say it's working like a charm.
So I thought, well, if someone were able to modify the registry keys for the Toshiba software, maybe we can make it read the HTC bluetooth hardware.
Onething I would like to know is what type of hardware do HTC use as a built in bluetooth device in their Himalaya version. I mean there must be some sort of bluetooth chipset they use for the Himalaya Model. And are there any technical sheets for this bluetooth chipset.
Finally I provide u with the bluetooth software I came acroos today. Hope someone can modify it so we can use it. Software works great and seams to load without any problems, but the only problem I faced was that it would not recognise my bluetooth device, instead it was searching for a Bluetooth CF Card or the Toshiba built in Bluetooth chipset.
Unfortunately, as it says in the readme, it won't solve our most pressing issue: a decent handsfree connection.
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Hello:
my opinion of the BT software that comes on the XDAII is that it is not very good.
however the ipaq units have a great piece of software made by widcomm called bluetooth manager. The widcomm site is not very informative at all and the software is not available to download.
I have found that this software can be downloaded from here : http://www.compaq.com/support/files/handheldiPAQ/us/download/14376.html
this loads into my XDAII perfectly (with no complaints about my device not being an ipaq), but does not see the bluetooth radio...
Any ideas how to solve this, or is there any other decent BT managment software available for the XDAII.
PS - I am more than willing to pay for the software but widcomm do not seem to offer it for sale anywhere.
I think you got the link to the update for the Widcomm's BT - may be that is a reason why it does not work.
The reason I am saying that - I had installed my version of it on my I-Mate and it worked fine.
If you will search this forum for Widcomm - I am sure you will be able to find it, otherwise send me PM or e-mail and I will forward to you my copy of it.
Paul
Excellent. I found it on the forums already, have installed it fine. I keep getting intermittant BT radio not ready errors but I tink this is some other software that is trying to get to tha radio at the same time.
Thanks very much for your help.
I think i remmeber that error... It is interference with original BT on XDA.. Make sure that you clean your StartUp folder to prevent starting original BT
I installed the Toshiba bluetooth stack on my I-Mate Jam and it ROCKS - it includes ALL the functionality/profiles missing in the MS stack!
...BUT...
It is unstable as hell (I have experienced all sort of "cosmetic" issues) and I am fairly sure this is due to the fact that both MS and Toshiba stacks try to use the same bluetooth hardware SIMULTANEOUSLY.
...SO...
has anyone figured how deinstall/reinstall the microsoft bluetooth stack on a Magician (I-Mate Jam, Qtek S-100, MDA Compact, XDA Mini)?
cseilern said:
...BUT...
It is unstable as hell (I have experienced all sort of "cosmetic" issues) and I am fairly sure this is due to the fact that both MS and Toshiba stacks try to use the same bluetooth hardware SIMULTANEOUSLY.
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So, what "ROCKS" about it?
Always do full backup b4 installing sware.
it does what the MS BT stack does (serial port, headset, activesync), but also adds other profiles (pan, dun, obex, ftp, chat + others from memory)
i.e send files/chat with other mobile phone users, access bt pan, etc... though i am only interested in pan, chat and obex
when i fisrt played with it, i immediately saw why everyone whinges with the bt stack...
it's excellent and stable for me, didn't expierence any bugs...
dutty:
Did you get pan working ?
If so can you please let me know how?
Thanks,
Martin
I'm kinda interested ...
Can u please post a copy of that Toshiba Bluetooth stack u're using so we can all have a chance to have a look at it and maybe modify it to work on our phones
uh, just started the service, restarted the device and connected to it!
BUT, i also installed the toshiba BT stack on my workstation
I'm kinda interested ...
Can u please post a copy of that Toshiba Bluetooth stack u're using so we can all have a chance to have a look at it and maybe modify it to work on our phones
And just more thing ... How did u manage to get that bluetooth stack to run on xda devices since it keeps checking for external SD bluetooth cards and was not designed for internal bluetooth chips ?
Look in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=15382&highlight=
Thanks for the link ....... BUT !!
I was able to download the Toshiba BT Stack v5.01 but it won't seem to work on my xda !! Everytime I tap on Bluetooth Setting (from toshiba) It says the following ' An error occurred with the Bluetooth Card. Confirm that the card is working properly.
Both my MS Stack and Widcomm Stacks are disabled and don't conflict with this new Toshiba Stack.
I was wondering how the thread owner got this BT stack running on his xda ?
It works on my XDA Mini just fine. The only problem I'm having is that it won't stay resident when you power off the device.
cseilern said:
I installed the Toshiba bluetooth stack on my I-Mate Jam and it ROCKS - it includes ALL the functionality/profiles missing in the MS stack!
...BUT...
It is unstable as hell (I have experienced all sort of "cosmetic" issues) and I am fairly sure this is due to the fact that both MS and Toshiba stacks try to use the same bluetooth hardware SIMULTANEOUSLY.
...SO...
has anyone figured how deinstall/reinstall the microsoft bluetooth stack on a Magician (I-Mate Jam, Qtek S-100, MDA Compact, XDA Mini)?
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As for disabling the MS stack, look here.
Got another Question ??
Will this new stack work on a Qtek2020 ? I've tried installing it on my Qtek2020 but it won't recognise my bluetooth hardware !!
Any sugestions ??? :?:
cseilern said:
I installed the Toshiba bluetooth stack on my I-Mate Jam and it ROCKS - it includes ALL the functionality/profiles missing in the MS stack!
...BUT...
It is unstable as hell (I have experienced all sort of "cosmetic" issues) and I am fairly sure this is due to the fact that both MS and Toshiba stacks try to use the same bluetooth hardware SIMULTANEOUSLY.
...SO...
has anyone figured how deinstall/reinstall the microsoft bluetooth stack on a Magician (I-Mate Jam, Qtek S-100, MDA Compact, XDA Mini)?
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Oops, sorry, look here for info about turning off the MS BT stack.
RE
From the download link provided it showed support for WM2003. How about WM2003SE?
Anyone feedback in using on WM2003SE?
Thanks
:roll:
i think the imate jam runs se?
:roll:
RE
Sorry, another question.
In the event of a hard reset will my O2 XDA II restore the MS stack with whatever registry settings that were deleted in the process of installating the Toshiba bt stack? Will the Toshiba bt stack be totally removed in the evnet of a hard reset?
Thanks again
yes sir
Found 2 problems.
Cannot connect when call ring.. connect then call is fine.
Cannot Accept call with button on headset.
Any more Problems ???
Please post your problems ..
Hi
i´ve tested the toshiba bt software on my MDA-Compact but haven´t got very good results. First, after installation, it seems to work good with my Royaltek RBT 3000 (GPS), but after i´ve switched off the device while an active bt connection was established with my gps software, the bt-stack broks down and the whole systems seems to be unstable. Even after a softreset the bt-software from toshiba says that they didnt recognize any bt hardware.
Now i am trying to deinstall the bt-soft and can recommend everybody who wants to test to make an backup before ;-)
I think that the software from toshiba could work, when the ms-bt-stack would be completly changed with the toshiba-stack, but doesnt work without problems when both bt-stacks are on the system.
Regards
FluBeX
Hi, i'm looking for a way to connect my Nokia 6230 to my Wizard so that the Wizard is recognized by the Nokia as headset. Does anyone know if this is possible?
I've been looking at the widcom/broadcom stack but i couldn't get it to work yet. Insufficient memory error.
Does anyone know if this is somehow possible?
I dont think this works. However I have done the reverse using my Laptop. I used my laptop to take calls and answer them, while my PDA is in the other room! w00t
And do you think it would be possible if we get the broadcom/widcom stack running on the Wizard?
No. I dont think that has the correct services/profiles. And is it possible to get the widcomm stack on the Wizard? Doesn't it already have the microsoft stack on it?
Thanks
how did u answer the calls on your lap top??? thats awesome wanna share? thank you!
my email address is [email protected]
To be a "headset" for another device, you need the "Audio Gateway" profile.
Most desktop adapters support this profile (the Widcom stack does), so your desktop or laptop PC can be a headset for your phone. I've used this as a speakerphone when we were doing something in a class. It's pretty slick.
The Wizard does NOT have the Audio Gateway profile, so it cannot be the speakers or mic for another device.
However, SOME of the Ipaq PDA's can do this. I've done it with a Bluetooth-Equipped Ipaq, so I know that, at least in theory, it IS possible.
TomXP411 thanks. You basically explained it for beckhams777...
PDAs that are not a phone themselves are usually the ones that have this profile. If you find a device that has this profile AND uses the Widcomm stack, I may be able to extract this profile and use it on other devices also. It also depends on what version of widcomm stack they use... But, it could well be possible now that I know some other devices can do it
Thanks
I'll go searching 8)
got it! thanks anyways!
T-mobile MDA (USA version) and Bt
Ok, read all the posts, so there isn't a way to use my bt earbud with music on my MDA?
it worls great for phone, but MDA does NOT have audio gateway software
Al
When I pair with my Mac (OS X 10.4), the mac does discover bluetooth audio as a service on the wizard... however when i try to send sound, OS X states that it could not connect to the BT Audio device... So in theory it should be possible, if the service is discovered. We perhaps just need an app on the wizard that responds to the connection request...
Hi guys,
just listen to the story:
in one of the summer night ..... :lol: cute hu
ok i have found a new bluetooth driver that works on magician
i have tested it in my i-mate jam and it worked well
it has much more services which i never found in a bluetooth driver
which are:
Headset
File Explorer
Personal Area Networking
ActiveSync
Telephony (i think this is Dial up networkig)
Rendering (Don't ask me, i don't know :wink: )
Serial port
Bluetooth ftp server
Object push
Object push server (i really don't know what's the difference..)
Bluetooth chat
i think that's enough, or i think there is nothing else :lol:
finally try and let me know.
by the way it's a Toshiba product.
Enjoy
but i don't know it couldn't be uploaded so these are the links:
English
http://aps.toshiba-tro.de/bluetooth/pages/disclaimer.php?dt=bts&download=4us
French
http://aps.toshiba-tro.de/bluetooth/pages/disclaimer.php?dt=bts&download=4fr
German
http://aps.toshiba-tro.de/bluetooth/pages/disclaimer.php?dt=bts&download=4gr
Italian
http://aps.toshiba-tro.de/bluetooth/pages/disclaimer.php?dt=bts&download=4it
Japanese
http://aps.toshiba-tro.de/bluetooth/pages/disclaimer.php?dt=bts&download=4jp
Spanish
http://aps.toshiba-tro.de/bluetooth/pages/disclaimer.php?dt=bts&download=4sp
Just Remember to Let Me Know :wink:
Is there A2DP and AVRCP support?
dmitry1972 said:
Is there A2DP and AVRCP support?
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This one is rather old Toshiba's proprietary BT stack. nothing good. I have used it with my TOSHIBA E800 + TOSHIBA SD BT card combo 2 years ago. And had many problems with it. Anyway.
here is some info for you:
Profiles supported by your Toshiba Pocket PC
Headset Profile
Serial Port Profile
Dial-up Networking Profile
Object Push Profile File
Transfer Profile
LAN Access Profile
Personal Area Networking Profile
General Access Profile
Bluetooth specification
V1.2 Not compatible with Bluetooth V1.0B
devices.
as you can see - this one is not even BT 2.0 compliant.
do you mean that it's a useless software
what about blueSoleil, bluetooth adds..... and other softwares
comparing to that which one is better, :?: :?:
and i've sayed that it worked well on my i-mate jam. i don't know what about other devices.
Hi,
i'm testing the bluesoleil stack (bluesoleil_r2.arm with switch from this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=36395)
since 2 weeks on my magician (qtek s100 rom 1.12 FR , radio 1.13) and i'm very happy with it;
PAN network works fine for accessing my LAN (files, internet, activesync),
and file transfer with other mobiles works better (i didn't test others BT services like dun, fax...)
Just have to switch to ms stack for GPS use with my BT338 and TT6(very laggy with bluesoleil stack)
Regards.
Sk
Hey all,
I'm trying to pair a PPC with SonyEricsson's bluetooth watch MBW-150 to use moneytoo's brilliant SmartWatchM. This worked fine with my old PPC running the Microsoft bluetooth stack. My new PPC (LG KS20) uses the Widcomm/Broadcom stack, believed to be cleverer than the MS stack.
Here's the problem:
The PPC will not pair. The watch does not send out information according to the BT Service Discovery Protocol (SDP), because it was never meant to be paired with anything else than SE phones. The Microsoft stack didn't care and paired nonetheless. The Widcomm/Broadcom stack, however, will pair with BT devices only if it finds a supported profile. The watch uses the Serial Port Profile (SPP), but it doesn't say so, not sending any SDP information to the PPC. The PPC would support SPP of course, but doesn't pair as it has no way of knowing that the watch supports this profile.
In the end, when I try to pair, the PPC will see the watch but doesn't know what to do with it, and will not pair.
Is there any way of pairing (using a Widcomm/Broadcom stack) without SDP information? Can I enforce pairing with the watch? (I can easily insert serial port settings in the reg manually.)
Or can I somehow change my BT stack? I've read that the only way to do that would mean changing the ROM ... :-(
Any ideas? Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Many thanks,
N.
I'm using 32feet.NET library that supports only MS BT Stack. Fortunately I have just found this lib http://franson.com/bluetools/ that seems to support Widcomm Stack. I will try it soon.
EDIT:
What BT stack is on it? Is it Broadcom? Widcomm on Motorola Q9 is ok and lets you to pair device without any service but Broadcom on a one HP iPAQ I have tested doesnt.
EDIT2:
Not a good news. Franson Bluetools doesnt work on smartphones. I dont know much about this stuff but from what I have read it seems like pairing/bonding request is possible only in MS BT stack (via some non official function) and it's disabled in other BT stacks because of security issues.
Thanks for chiming in, moneytoo!
moneytoo said:
What BT stack is on it? Is it Broadcom? Widcomm on Motorola Q9 is ok and lets you to pair device without any service but Broadcom on a one HP iPAQ I have tested doesnt.
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This may be a noob question but: How do I tell whether it's Broadcom or Widcomm? Is there still a difference since Broadcom bought Widcomm?
Anyway, BT manager will not pair ("no supported protocol found").
moneytoo said:
it seems like pairing/bonding request is possible only in MS BT stack (via some non official function) and it's disabled in other BT stacks because of security issues.
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I'm afraid that's true. I haven't found anything so far that would point me to a workaround, backdoor or anything - and as my KS20 is a company phone I can hardly change the ROM
Let's hope someone comes up with an idea!