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WAP and Yahoo!

On a PC, you can go to http://wap.oa.yahoo.com, and login to your yahoo account to read your emails, etc.
If I do the same from my XDA2, it says "Unable to connect: Ensure that your modems are present and inserted correctly, and no network card present".
If I try this with any other web site (e.g. http://www.bbc.co.uk) it connects and works fine.
Does anyone else get this, and does anyone know a way around it?
Thanks!

On my XDA, http://wap.oa.yahoo.com works fine.
But WAP stinks on a capable device like the XDA or XDAII. Why not use http://www.yahoo.com instead, or set up your Inbox to download your Yahoo headers and/or messages?

can i realy do that?? setup INBOX for yahoooo???
please show me how! i couldnt even set the outlook express on PC to do that!
thanks a million.

pdhenry said:
Why not use http://www.yahoo.com instead, or set up your Inbox to download your Yahoo headers and/or messages?
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You can only do this if you pay extra for POP3 access to Yahoo emails - which I don't want to do as this isn't my primary email account.
Also, going through http://www.yahoo.com means you get all the ads, graphics, etc. Even over a GPRS line, this makes it quite painfull.

d-o-h! said:
On a PC, you can go to http://wap.oa.yahoo.com, and login to your yahoo account to read your emails, etc.
If I do the same from my XDA2, it says "Unable to connect: Ensure that your modems are present and inserted correctly, and no network card present".
If I try this with any other web site (e.g. http://www.bbc.co.uk) it connects and works fine.
Does anyone else get this, and does anyone know a way around it?
Thanks!
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I just got a new XDA II and I could access Yahoo without problems. After an involutary hard reset all the O2 stuff got installed (seems it was not installed the first time I used the device), and now I'm having the same problem as you're describing. Has O2 added something "clever" so that if it sees "wap" in the path, it thinks it should use a wap connection? In any case I can't find these settings and delete it. I want it to work as it did before the hard reset! Help!

Try wsp://wap.oa.yahoo.com insted of http://wap.oa.yahoo.com
HTTP = PC
WSP = WAP
8)
cheers

WSP doesn't work either. Probably because that signals even more to the computer that you're trying to establish a WAP connection, which I don't want to do and which isn't set up either. The funny thing is that it worked before the hard reset, and I never had any problems on my old XDA I.

I managed to remove all the O2 stuff from the extended ROM, and after a hard reset, I can now access http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail again! Once you access http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail, the path changes to http://wap.oa... and from this point on it complained. Until I removed the O2 stuff. So now I'm happy it works, but I'd still like to know what settings O2 infiltrated to stop it from working. Does anyone have a clue?

astryger said:
So now I'm happy it works, but I'd still like to know what settings O2 infiltrated to stop it from working. Does anyone have a clue?
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I think it have something to do with Connection settings and or Registery settings for Browser ID string (User ID String)
example:
Of youre browser ID is "Mozilla/4.0(compatible; MSIE 4.01; Windows CE; PPC; 240x320)" Than you w'll get a diffrent page if you have something else.
After I changed my Browser ID (to see more free stuff from orange GRPS/Orange World) I cant get the colored page of Yahoo Too.
Can you post here youre Browser ID please?
To see youre browser ID string, Visit http://www.showip.com on youre PPC, and let me know please.
Cheers

I just bought an XDA2i and am having the same problem with the mobile Yahoo site. Since nobody has managed to unlock the extended ROM in XDA2i yet , I cannot remove the O2 stuff that is causing the problem (forcing a different connection for web adresses starting with "wap"). On my XDA2 i could unlock the extended ROM and remove the O2 bits, and this solved the problem. With XDA2i I'm stuck...

GPRS connections out of control?

I am using SPB's GPRS traffic counter and have noticed that without my doing anything, my Jam will download around 100k of data every day (around £0.25 on Vodafone). I can just about survive the financial shock ;-) but I am more worried to know how control connections in general.
Does anyone know what programs on the Jam keep a GPRS connection alive? (I am not using MS Messenger, nor do I have either MS Explorer, the e-mail application or Activesync runnig in the background).
cheers.

I see that you have checked the usual suspects how about MMS this uses GPRS as well maybe you received some? The application you mention (SPB GPRS Monitor) does not tell you which application uses GPRS?

unfortunately is not the mms client - I stopped its installation after a hard reset.
I even go as far as killing off the messaging app and internet explorer with the memory control panel to make sure they don't accidentally run in the background.
my guess is a leaky tcp/ip stack, but i'm still looking for ways of controlling outgoing packets...

cseilern said:
unfortunately is not the mms client - I stopped its installation after a hard reset.
I even go as far as killing off the messaging app and internet explorer with the memory control panel to make sure they don't accidentally run in the background.
my guess is a leaky tcp/ip stack, but i'm still looking for ways of controlling outgoing packets...
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I too have the same Issue. Orange billed me for 2.5MB of data. I aint used the darn thing for GPRS.

Alternetives for SPB GPRS Monitor !?
Does anyone have any alternetives for SPB GPRS Monitor. This program makes the OS on my i-mate JAM very unstabele. So I had to remove this program.
I hope someone can help me pointing to a good alternetive app ! I also couldn't find an application like a SMS counter. Any idea's ?
Thanks for your help and kind regards,
R.

I NEVER leave GPRS connected. I always 're-connect and cancel' to drop my connection after getting email headers ....
However....
one day, in one session at 12noon I racked up £17 with 02. They can not explain it and I was sitting at my desk at work with the XDA docked at the time!!! (with internet pass through if needed!)
This is worse than premium rate calls (which are closely monitored) ... all 02 can say is that at 12noon I downloaded over 7mb !! end of story! no more details. I don't know how it is possible unless it connected to their stupid movie portal and downloaded a massive trailer on it's own? - which I would of noticed!
Well I have a complaint in with them. Just think how many people could get stung (and I know what i'm doing!)
I'm now going to try the above mentioned GPRS counter, but has anyone tried this one ? .... http://www.all-locations.com/ GPRS Traffic Counter v3.2
Rich

cseilern
Do you have a programme such as SPB Pocket Weather.. or any of those 'weather related' today pluggins?... as they connect via GPRS to download latest weather etc..
Hope you find the mischievous programme!
Gero

Suddenly PIE doesn't browse to websites! Stuck "Locatin

Enough is enough.
I had the same **** with my old PDA2K and now again with the Exec... I've spent 20 hours thus far on that ****. I just hard reset my machine yesterday and now again this **** happens and I cannot fix it.
I am surfing using UMTS/GPRS.. My definitions are FINE. There's only one connection. It was always fine that way on both the pda2k and the new exec.. but it stopped working now... it could be that some program messed up this ****, but i wouldn't know which.
Trying to browse to a site.. I get PIE saying 'Locating..." then after a minute or so saying "The page cannot be displayed or downloaded blah blah blah"... But the 3GUMTS is connected just fine.. Note that MSN Messenger doesn't work as well (I think that's because it's uses the core engine the PIE uses). Strangely, using networking utilities (vx) I can ping with the machine and even get HTML pages using web addresses. So the problem is not DNS and not a connection problem.. Just probably some damn problem with the operating system not recognizing something.. The 3rd party vxutilities for networking are bypassing that **** hence why they can browse the network just fine.
Tried deleting temp internet files and cookies nada... I also tried soft reset (about 20 times).. nada.... tried deleting the connection and recreating... nada... tried searchiong the registry for my connection name after deleted to see if traces exists.. nada...
Getting tired of this ****.. only hardreset solved it last time and i'm getting sick of becoming the machine's slave rather then the machine being my slave.
Help would be grately apprecaited..... I am sure it's ****ed up registry entry or something like that... I don't have many programs isntalled on my machine as I just hard reseted yesterday and my machine is in rather clean condition except for must have apps.
Help...SOS..

Check your proxy server info (in connections).
My XDA exec just loves to grab my work proxy server and try use that for accessing the web when wifi is active.

Check your proxy server info (in connections).
My XDA exec just loves to grab my work proxy server and try use that for accessing the web when wifi is active.

$20 for a solution
dikkyboy said:
Check your proxy server info (in connections).
My XDA exec just loves to grab my work proxy server and try use that for accessing the web when wifi is active.
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Thanks for trying to help...
but that's not the issue.. it's wwaayy deeper than that... ( i would have found it after 20 hours of trying had it been this easy ...
No proxy whatsoever. I never used Wifi. No work setup.. only "My ISP Setup".
anybody else? I'm offering $20 by paypal for the kind soul who can help stop my frustration WITHOUT hardresetting my machine or doing drastic moves. I need a permanent solution. If I solve it before so.. I will post my fix here...

UPDATE:
It's working now, though I don't like the solution, I changed in 'Connections' to connect through 'My Work Network' although I don't actually have any work network and I'm using it the same way I used the "My ISP" connection. It may stop working again though. i'll update.. but I still don't get it why the normal My ISP which always worked stopped working.

Are you, maybe, using the SBSH Weather?Are you, maybe, using the SBSH Pocket Weather?
For me the same thing started after I installed SBSH PW…

zormic said:
Are you, maybe, using the SBSH Weather?Are you, maybe, using the SBSH Pocket Weather?
For me the same thing started after I installed SBSH PW…
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Thanks, but I'm actually using SPB Weather

com'on someone please help me out here. i'll donate another 20 euro to this site if i find a solution... What I did yesterday (changed it so that it will use only the 'My work' profile both both internet and work worked fine.. but only for 24 hours. it now doesn't work again even after multiple softresets as well as deleting and defining the account again.. what a frustartion.
Now only that i cannot use PIE, I cannot use Terminal Server as well.. which is a bummer

Toggle flight mode on and then off.

Have ever try to remove check box of proxy in network tab? With mine it works.

proxy issue
I noticed the same thing on my wizard, I think it may be caused by an internet explorer automatic configuration script. When I manually provide the ip address and port number of the proxy server, the problem does not appear. I changed this in Internet Explorer running on my PC and in the Work connection on my phone. I have also changed the setting in Active Sync to choose the Work Network setting by default instead of automatic.
The only way I got Internet Explorer back to work was after a hard reset.
It did not happen again in the past 1,5 week. I have been restoring the same backup after each of these hardresets so I had an identical install everytime. It seems to be fine now.
I don't know how WM5 handles Active Directory policies (if it handles them at all) that may change your IE settings as well.
BR
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Re: proxy issue
"Check your proxy server info (in connections).
My XDA exec just loves to grab my work proxy server and try use that for accessing the web when wifi is active."
My wizard does the same, it will work for a week or so and try using some random proxy for no reason!
I just uncheck the proxy tick box and the wifi connection works great with internet explorer. (well usually I tear my hear out for 5 mins and then realise its the proxy!)
R

i had same problem! but opera browser would work fine!
i am also using spb weather but i dont think its that
i tried a few things but iv noticed if u keep the ie cach setings and location as default it may be fine, after not changing the ie cache location iv not had this problem, where asbefre i always used my card for ie cache.
all working fine now inc spb weather

PIE stuck at Locating
Hi mobiler,
I hope you have found a more permanent solution to your problem. I own an MDA Pro with TMobile UK and recently bacame plagued with the same symptoms which you reported, i.e., pocket explorer and opera mobile stuck at locating and not able to browse the web. Through some helpful suggestions on this thread I managed to find a solution which you may or may not have already tried. Like most people, I use my MDA pro at home on my home wireless Wifi network, and while away at work I use its GPRS/UMTS capabilities. I had no reason to think that these two features of the MDA Pro had any interactions with each other. In fact, I seem to remember reading somewhere that separate pieces of internal hardware provide these features. However, to my surprise/dismay I discovered that somehow the Wifi and GPRS/UMTS settings on the MDA pro are linked together. For example, if you setup a proxy server in the GPRS modem settings, which I recently did, without notifying you the Wifi connection also tries to use the same proxy setting. Vice versa if you setup a specific IP address and Gateway in your Wifi settings the GPRS modem connection also tries to use those settings and failing. The solution for getting back to normal internet browsing was to remove the proxy in modem connection by using its automatic settings ,and to tick the server assigned IP address for Wifi. This is a less than satisfactory solution, however, at least things are back to where they were before. I remain very puzzled at the interaction between these features and am dismayed and frustrated that there is nothing in the step by step procedures in each setting that warn you about a possible impact on the other.

Pocket MSN Issue

Ok I am just about ready to format my wizard to default. I have been using the Wizard ROM the past few months. Pocket msn was working fine until over the weekend where as I click connect on msn it fails after about 2 seconds. I can browse using IE and get my emails via Outlook etc. All internet activities work except for pocket msn.
I even installed Windows Live and its the same thing. I read online where if I changed region settings to English UK and create a shortcut for msn that should work. It did but I cant be bothered with that as I still lose the ability to get my hotmail emails.
What am I doing wrong if anything, y did it stop working all of a sudden?

Still awaiting any help

Ok I have narrowed down the issue to the APN which I am using. In my country we have multiple apns. The one I am using allows me to browse at one flat rate. But for some reason it is blocking msn.com and pocket msn.
When I use the charge as u use APN I can access these sites but I am charged for the data being transferred.
Why would the provider limit the flat rate APN?

Wap Problem

hii ,i have htc touch cruise, i connect normally to the internet via WAP, but most pages won't appear :S ( only small pages like google appear)
the internet explorer or opera give error messages ( cannot be displayed ... )
am in lebanon using WAP- ALFA....
any one have an idea
i have heard of a patch is it true and what may be the solution for problem

i think that's what wap is
it's a subset of html which never made it really
and only those few pages which still
support it will load over an old wap connection
i would look into getting a real gprs setup

haj houj said:
hii ,i have htc touch cruise, i connect normally to the internet via WAP, but most pages won't appear :S ( only small pages like google appear)
the internet explorer or opera give error messages ( cannot be displayed ... )
am in lebanon using WAP- ALFA....
any one have an idea
i have heard of a patch is it true and what may be the solution for problem
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Dude, i live in lebanon too and i have alfa wap too, the problem is with alfa, the connection is too slow, try to connect via WIFI, it connect and open pages normaly, only with wap i have troubles to open pages.

yeh that might be problem , but not too far about a mounth i had another phone (pocket pc 2003 ) and on that aging phone it worked just fine ?!?!?
also my friends have diffrenet phones but same service and works just well ..dunoo there's somethin confusing here

maybe you dident use the same settings as the old phone and as your friends then
also i would try another browser if you use PIE as it's really the worst possible pda browser

noopp , same old settings from service provider
and i tried both internet explorer and Opera ...