I'm responsible of a dozen of these for my office, used basically to synch with Exchange via gprs. My pain is that they hard-reset them almost every week. Do there is the possibility of customizing the ROM so that after a reset all the parameters for the connection will be already there? or will be easier using a "deafult" restore from a SD? thanks
You could adapt the Extended ROM or use a special folder on a SD-Card.....
Stefan
customised rom
I have done alot of this for work, with xda 1,2, 2s,and the mini.
You can download the software for unlocking the extended rom from the ftp page or there are numerous threads with it on. Make sure you edit the config file in extended rom to call your customised cab file.
I found the easiest way was to change an existing cab file rather than build a new one.
i use wince cab manager for the cabs.
There is also ER2003edit which is really good, that can also be found on the ftp site
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popeyesfx said:
I have done alot of this for work, with xda 1,2, 2s,and the mini.
You can download the software for unlocking the extended rom from the ftp page or there are numerous threads with it on. Make sure you edit the config file in extended rom to call your customised cab file.
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for you knowledge, burning the ExtROM means saying byebye to the warranty or what? For the legal aspect I think I should have no problem because what I want to achieve is just removing some software and customizing a bit the settings; by the way our Mini are not branded with any provider customization.
warranty
i just keep a complete rom dump on a memory card, so if i need to put it back to normal for warranty reason, then i just reflash it.
Related
Really sorry - can someone point me in the direction of a tool that unlocks the extended ROM for a Wizard? I'ves searched but I can't find Am I being blind?
I need to free up some space and want to get rid of those imate .tsk files but need to unlock the ROM first.
Thanks
Mat
Try this one
Download this
http://www.ghisler.com/pocketpc.htm
Then type (after install)
“\Extended_Rom\”
and walla
Didi
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Hi,
can somebody explain how i can delete the files in extended rom ? i tried with TC and the files seemed to be deleted, but after the hardreset they were still there.....I want to get rid of them and install some other programms too.
Thanks and regards
Joachim
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Hi,
can somebody explain how i can delete the files in extended rom ? i tried with TC and the files seemed to be deleted, but after the hardreset they were still there.....I want to get rid of them and install some other programms too.
Thanks and regards
Joachim
Ok Total commander gives you access to the extended rom using the method just posted above.
But if you want to actually have the extended rom showing all time, then you need this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=33680&highlight=extended+rom
The extended rom unlocker will give the actual extended rom as space deginated extended_rom2 and its about 9.85mb size or something with between about 350kb and 2.5mb of .cab files in it depending on whether its a Qtek (Which has the least amount of files), I-mate, o2 or T-Mobile, these last two probably (along with Orange) will have the most 'junk in them.
Once you have ran the exteneded rom unlocker and soft reset your device it will be accesible through file explorer you won't need TC.
You can then go in and delete (be careful to make sure what everything does first) its your own responsibility, and remove what you don't need.
For example on the I-mate Extended Rom you cane remove Backgammon, Skype and the anti virus prog. There wasn't much on the Qtek Rom I just put on mine just clearvue and soemthing else inconsequential, there was no skype or antivirus, but I believe some Qtek roms might have this.
T-Mobile is abother story, there is a shedload of crap in the extended rom, ranging from a today screen toolbar to small progs, there is list knocking about of what each file does. When I changed from T-Mob to I-mate and then Qtek I just transferred the T-Mobile GPRS settings and the GPRS disconnect button .cab and put them in the exteneded Rom myself and let it run.
Also on I-mate Rom there are carrier settings that you can delete which won't apply to you, basically lots fo countries phone settings, like o2 UK, T-Mobile Spain etc etc, depending on where you are in the world.
You can't delete the I-mate .tsk todayscreens as far as I know, they are not in the ExtRom. The Qtek ExtROm doesn't have the extra .tsk's just default and the Guava Bubbles one.
If anyone wants the T-Mobile GPRS .cab and GPRS disconnect button .cab I can send it through msn or email.
that doesn't work either. I treid with the unlocker and deleted the files with TC. If i check the content no files are there, but when i try to copy other files to the ext. Rom it says that the volume is write protected. I softreseted several times also.
Any hint on that ? How have all the others deleted the files in extended rom ?
Regards
Joachim
batman08 said:
that doesn't work either. I treid with the unlocker and deleted the files with TC. If i check the content no files are there, but when i try to copy other files to the ext. Rom it says that the volume is write protected. I softreseted several times also.
Any hint on that ? How have all the others deleted the files in extended rom ?
Regards
Joachim
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Might not work for you but it worked for me and a load of others. Once the extended rom is visible you can delete files easily, you don't need TC like I said. Its easier to put additional cabs into my documents sync them across and just run them.
Yeah, that's a pitty.... I have the Vodafone VPA Compact II, which is the Wizard 100 afaik.
Someone around here has the same model and succeeded in removing the cabs from the extended rom ?
Hi,
Can someone point me to a simple Extended ROM Unlock tutorial because I just can't manage to find my way through the Forum.
I'de like to place my favorite apps in ROM...
Thanx
The General
GeneralPatton said:
Hi,
Can someone point me to a simple Extended ROM Unlock tutorial because I just can't manage to find my way through the Forum.
I'de like to place my favorite apps in ROM...
Thanx
The General
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well general, depends on the OS you are using..
if you have rom version 1.6.x.x it won't work easy yet.
the pre 1.6.x.x roms are quite simple, download totalcommander for ppc, install it, run it, in the adress-bar type "\extended_rom\" without the " " 's, and voila, there they are..
good luck..
ps.
the search button on top of this page would give the oppertunity to search for words as extended rom in de wizard forums.. :wink:
Ok
Thanx works fine with TC
Just a last question, all cabs i place in extended_rom will install automatically after hard reset ?
'cause I saw i had a autorun.exe file in there and some sutomization cabs that install after Hardreset ???
Thanks
The General
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GeneralPatton said:
Thanx works fine with TC
Just a last question, all cabs i place in extended_rom will install automatically after hard reset ?
'cause I saw i had a autorun.exe file in there and some sutomization cabs that install after Hardreset ???
Thanks
The General
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There's a config file in there too (can't remember it's name off hand, but it's fairly obvious). This has a list of the cab files to install after a hard reset. I guess you'd need to add your cab files to that list as well as copying them to extended ROM.
Dox
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GeneralPatton said:
Thanx works fine with TC
Just a last question, all cabs i place in extended_rom will install automatically after hard reset ?
'cause I saw i had a autorun.exe file in there and some sutomization cabs that install after Hardreset ???
Thanks
The General
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depends, some have a config.txt file, if you open this one and edit it to your
needs, the files you put into it will be installed after hard reset, if you
set the right parameters from the txt file.
other roms have the autorun.exe wich installs all the files in the extrom.
i'm not sure anymore if this is right, but i believe that if you rename your
cab's like this:
applicationX.cab -> Default_applicationX.cab
it will install without any problems.
if you have problems with unsigned cabs, you can use the signed.patch
wich can be found on the ftp.
On my Cingular 8125 the extended ROM is write protected, does anyone know how do I remove the write-protection?
jsnipper said:
On my Cingular 8125 the extended ROM is write protected, does anyone know how do I remove the write-protection?
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Only way around is to flash an older rom into your handset..
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nmx77 said:
GeneralPatton said:
Thanx works fine with TC
Just a last question, all cabs i place in extended_rom will install automatically after hard reset ?
'cause I saw i had a autorun.exe file in there and some sutomization cabs that install after Hardreset ???
Thanks
The General
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depends, some have a config.txt file, if you open this one and edit it to your
needs, the files you put into it will be installed after hard reset, if you
set the right parameters from the txt file.
other roms have the autorun.exe wich installs all the files in the extrom.
i'm not sure anymore if this is right, but i believe that if you rename your
cab's like this:
applicationX.cab -> Default_applicationX.cab
it will install without any problems.
if you have problems with unsigned cabs, you can use the signed.patch
wich can be found on the ftp.
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Hi
Could tell us where on the ftp we can found signed.patch?
Bye
Herc. 8)
Here it is
i couldn't find it on the ftp anymore as well..
i'll put it there again, but here it is for you
if it's that easy to get into extended rom, then why do people release the unlockers for extrom? i don't get it.
Ray_jai said:
if it's that easy to get into extended rom, then why do people release the unlockers for extrom? i don't get it.
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you can access the files on the extended rom, but you can't edit any of the information there. you have to flash a new extended rom image for any changes to take effect. I think those that are looking at the extended rom unlockers is for a different purpose. I think I read somewhere that it let some people use the extended rom space as extra storage (~10 megs), but it messed up applications on the phone, especially the camera.
in general, it doesn't seem to be a good idea to unlock the extended rom. most rom builders look like they are trying to learn how to edit this properly to add it o their rom kitchens.
can one's extended rom go curropt?
after i heard about this, i went into extended rom just to see if it works.
and it did. i exited total commander and started to gather my anti theif program to get installed.
now I go back into extended rom, and everything became gibberish!
and when i click on something it says "error 3 Changing to dir!"
WTF is going on!
can someone help me out?
I just discoverd that I cannot modify the extended rom (using Total Commander, etc.) How does one unlock it so tht it may be modified?
Thanks,
Frank
fmcgirt said:
I just discoverd that I cannot modify the extended rom (using Total Commander, etc.) How does one unlock it so tht it may be modified?
Thanks,
Frank
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It can, just try again anad again, i did it on my 4th attemps
Cheers!
Thanks for the response but I haven't had any success after several tries. I tried installing the Wizard unlock cab file and afterwards with Total Commander, I can reset the Read Only bit on all the files and copy the files to my SD card. However, I am unable to delete any files. They appear to be deleted but come back after a soft reset. I would like to especially get rid of all the operator settings files. The rest of the stuff like Skype, Anti Virus and Backgammon I can get rid of using Settings>Remove Programs.
Frank
Isn't "ROM" short for "read only memory"?
hi, I am using Buzz's unlocker for Wizard... it made the ExtROM visible but still it is read only
I need to find how can I delete and add files to it.
Any challenging minds out there?
Total commander does not work with the jamin in my case anyway.
Tried several time with no results.
shahzadkhan15nov said:
hi, I am using Buzz's unlocker for Wizard... it made the ExtROM visible but still it is read only
I need to find how can I delete and add files to it.
Any challenging minds out there?
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hi,
unlocker for wizard is not mine...
buzz
...well, if anyone can give me a dump of Prophet's bootloader + clean registry export, i can take a look at it..
buzz
Buzz,
Thanks for the great offer.
I can give you the clean reg but how can i get you the first part, bootloader thingie?
Regards
I have used the Wizard Extended ROM unlock program to unlock the ROM on my Prophet. I now have a copy of the Extended ROM on my SD Card. I'm not concerned about erasing the Extended ROM files, I just don't wan them installed, so I did a Hard Reset and just when it says that it will start installing the additional prorams in 3 seconds, I did a soft reset.
OK, now I have a Prophet without extended ROM. I can now install the stuff that I want.
Most of the cab files I've figured out, Does anyone know what the following extended ROM cabs do? This is from the latest Imate Jamin ROM.
Default_CAAVPPC_IMEI_2.6.77_range.CAB
Default_Imate_PPC_SA_V5.5.03.cab
Default_MP_Shortcut_MMS1_JAVA_VOICE_CV_051213.CAB
Default_PP_TSK.CAB
Default_PP_UAString.CAB
Default_PT_Signed_IconDll.sa.CAB
Default_PT_Signed_Patch_SD.sa.CAB
Thanks heaps,
Matterhorn
Default_CAAVPPC_IMEI_2.6.77_range.CAB is the anti-virus app which used to play havoc in slowing down the KJAM. Maybe this version is better but I uninstalled it using Remove Programs. About the rest I am not sure. At least you don't have Skype, backgammon and the Operator Settings files so I expect you will gain a fair amount.
Frank
you can use wince cab manager to see the content of the cab file.
Still nothing? Guess I will go the way of Matterhorn when I need to do a hard reset. Several others have not installed the Extended ROM at all and have reported significant speedup in the JAMin.
Frank
That would be me. I haven't installed one thing off the extended rom and my speed is really pretty good. You can see a video review at the link below to compare the m600 and the jamin (with no extended rom). Keep in mind I don't use mms, skype, antivirus anyway....so no big deal to leave off the ext rom. I also use adobe and don't need the clearview .pdf. Hope the video helps
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=849592
Thanks, Mike. I don't use the stuff either except MMS once in a while but can just as easily use email for that. I presume Voice Dial is in the Extended Rom but rather have MS VC anyway and things like Connection Manager, Messaging, etc., that I want are not in the Extended ROM so I should be fine.
Now to find time to do a hard reset and re-install my apps.
Frank
Everyone has diffrent issues, I was able to delete the files from there (verified by refreshing the dir, and I recieved no read only error) but I was unable to write files to it, which I thought was very strange, I am using APA_ext_rom_unlock.exe and it does NOT give me the success msg it acts like it hasnt even ran. I updated my ROM to teh test one that was floating auround 2.8.7 whatever, and I realized too late that aWizard has no way to reflash teh extended ROM so I am without all my Cingular apps and I have all the 2.8.7 Extended rom stuff with the 1.8 Cingular OS ROM which I reverted back to. Any suggestions how I can replace my extended ROM ?
any luck so far?
Hi guys,
Are we getting any hope/luck to unlock Ext ROM for JAMin/Prophet?
I don't know how you guys are doing it. I have tried several times to delete items in my extended rom using total commander, at least 10 times and the result is the same. After the hard reset all that was deleted was re-installed after the reset.
I have contacted TC a while ago, and have not heard anything, maybe they are working on it.
Just curious....as I'm new to this ext rom stuff....but why don't you just "not install" the ext rom. Then use gsfinder to install whichever .cabs you want? If any? Just curious as I may be missing something. :roll:
mikewchandler said:
Just curious....as I'm new to this ext rom stuff....but why don't you just "not install" the ext rom. Then use gsfinder to install whichever .cabs you want? If any? Just curious as I may be missing something. :roll:
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No, I think the end result would be pretty much the same. For me I would like an Extended ROM for the JAMin that includes exacty what I want installed - no Backgammon, AntiVirus, Smart Dialing, Skype and a single Operator Settings file for TMO USA. Then when I hard reset I don't have to mess with anything else, just let it go. I had my KJAM setup that way and I would like the JAMin to be the same. I would also be as close to an OEM install as I can get (without the junk) so I don't have to worry about proper default settings not being there because of some file I didn't install or installed in the wrong order. Having said all this and thinking about it more I am sure you would get to the same point doing your procedure and then installing the required .cab files in the proper order.
Now I have a question:
Wonder what would happen if I did a hard reset, then did the soft reset to stop the Ext ROM install, installed the required .cab files in order, soft reset and then restored from a Sprite BU file. Wonder would I be restoring any files that could cause problems due to an imcomplete ROM install? I guess I will have to try that first since I do hate to re-install a bunch of apps and especially have to re-enter all the reg codes.
Frank
hi i have been looking through this formu but cannot really find what i am after. sorry in advance but if it was covered in other threads please give links.
i would like to upgrade my rom (current i am using pre-installed tmobile mda pro rom) to something batter. the problem is there is so many things in this forum that makes me conufused.
Is it possible (probably it is- but how) to upgrade my ROM by creating my own ROM eg take the best radio rom and extended rom with the stuff i want eg some application i am using right now - instead of normal keyboard get resco keyboard and instead of file explorer get resco explorer and so on and on and put them to the extended rom .
is there any soft to do it ? can someone provide me with links where i can find out something more about ROM cos wiki isnt really helpful and seems to be out of date.
any help wanted !
cheers, cudo
ps. or put tomtom to the extRom...rom that would feauture all the good stuff.
what a pity nobady is willing to help me..maybe u vac just point me to some accurate threads within this forum, if ther are some.
cheers, cudo
To put another Radio ROM in is trivial.
Take out the other two (ExtROM and OS) ROM images and just flash in the Radio file. I did this and didn't even need a hard reset.
To put TomTom into your ExtROM is easy too.
Once you have done your hard reset with your new ROM images and the ExtROM has loaded, you have 10MB of space that you can reclaim. There are instructions at the top of this forum for unlocking the ExtROM and making it appear as another memory area.
Please use backup software regularly so that you don't have to reflash the unit until the next OS upgrade.
Creating a ROM image is more hard work, and I don't know for sure that all the information is accurate. This is only my understanding of the process.
Install the programs that you want in your ROM to your PDA and make a note of the locations of all files and registry entries that are installed.
Take a recent ROM image and unpack it to your desktop.
Delete the programs that you don't want to install, and then search through the hives for the entries that relate to those programs. Delete those too.
Put the files and registry entries of the programs you are putting into your ROM into their post-installed locations.
Rebuild the ROM image.
Flash it in.
Hopefully this won't break your PDA if you get it wrong, I'm guessing that this is very much a trial and error process.
I haven't tried this.
Use this information at your own risk, it could break your PDA.
how do i separate the rom images from each other..i mean radio, os and extended roms ? when i unzip the UNI_TMUK_130114_130232_11003_WWE_BL101_Ship i am getting loads of files but cannot see the right ones.
cheers, cudo
Ok i still in the process of reading various threats regarding ROM backups.
Can someone please clarify the differences between the three kind of ROMS:
WINCE ROM
Radio ROM
Extended ROM
As far as i can tell the WINCE is self explanatory -- its the OS
Which one of the rest 2 ROMS hold the settings of the provider.
E.g. If i want to upgrade my device to WM6 and want to reload the settings of my provider which one of the two i will have to use?
Regards
Z£Y$
Extended rom holds the settings
Z£Y$ said:
Ok i still in the process of reading various threats regarding ROM backups.
Can someone please clarify the differences between the three kind of ROMS:
WINCE ROM
Radio ROM
Extended ROM
As far as i can tell the WINCE is self explanatory -- its the OS
Which one of the rest 2 ROMS hold the settings of the provider.
E.g. If i want to upgrade my device to WM6 and want to reload the settings of my provider which one of the two i will have to use?
Regards
Z£Y$
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The radio ROM does what it says on the tin - it controls the radio.
The extended ROM is about 10Mb of memory used by the carriers for configuration / customisation information. It is usually programmed to autorun after a hard reset so that the customisation files in there can be processed first. For example, with O2 UK, the customisation puts in the GPRS/3G/locale settings, makes the Uni look pretty (if you don't use corporate mode) at the expense of it being very slow indeed!
If you empty the extended ROM, you then have 10Mb which you can use for storage / running progs. I run TomTom 6 and various other key apps from there with no difficulties.
The only downsides are if for some reason you need some particular form of customisation installed by your carrier. I have happily dispensed with all of the O2 customisation and all I have to do when I hard reset (after a new ROM) is to reinstall the O2 GPRS/MMS settings, which takes about thirty seconds.
If you do empty the extended ROM, bear in mind that it will be re-locked whenever you change the main ROM so you will need to unlock it again. Also, one of the unlocking progs around also wipes the Extended ROM - there is another (which you will find somewhere on this site) which only unlocks it.
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Thanks for the clear explanation!!!!
Regards
Z£Y$