I'm trying to find a way around taking my work of art breeze block down town on a night out, but I need a phone. Is anyone else in this situation. Ok, so I could buy a payg sim card and stick it in an old unused phone, but then telling everyone I have a different number etc. :x Or, maybe I could divert my calls to another number instead of my answerphone :?:
One of these days i'm gonna leave it in a taxi, fall down and bust it or have it nicked. Any ideas much appreciated
Why not just put your XDA II's SIM card in an unused phone for the night, then when you're done put it back in the XDA II? Thats way u keep the same number and your XDA II stays safe at home
Because it means removing the battery, thus hard resetting and that means having to set up all my gprs settings, install tomtom again, bla bla bla and i can't be bothered to do it every week :roll:
Is it possible to forward calls to a certain number?
Removing the battery for a seccond or two doesnt hard reset the phone (or at least it shouldnt) if your really scared though ... do a full backup before ya take the battery out.
The Phone should retain the settings for 20mins (thats what they quote anyway)
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Because it means removing the battery, thus hard resetting and that means having to set up all my gprs settings, install tomtom again, bla bla bla and i can't be bothered to do it every week :roll:
Is it possible to forward calls to a certain number?
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Yeah, what I used to do was have a cheapy phone that was easily pocketable (like the V3 Razr) and a payg sim card in it. Just divert all calls to the Razr's number while you're out.
Get home and then next morning when you remember cancel the diversion.
Easy.
Kevin
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Here (Belgium) we can get a sim duplicate (with the same number) for use in car systems etc. But only one can be "on" at a time. so put you XDA in flight mode and turn your small/cheap mobile on or vice versa.
Don't know which one stays connected when you turn both on. the first one connected or the last.
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twichibi said:
Because it means removing the battery, thus hard resetting and that means having to set up all my gprs settings, install tomtom again, bla bla bla and i can't be bothered to do it every week :roll:
Is it possible to forward calls to a certain number?
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Yeah, what I used to do was have a cheapy phone that was easily pocketable (like the V3 Razr) and a payg sim card in it. Just divert all calls to the Razr's number while you're out.
Get home and then next morning when you remember cancel the diversion.
Easy.
Kevin
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Problem there is that the service provider will charge YOU for the diverted call!
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cheers guys. Can we get duplicate sims from service providers in this country??
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I wonder what would happen if you phoned your SP and said the sim got broken. Would they send you a duplicate, with the same number etc? Might be worth it if they do.
IF not you can duplicate with a blank SIM and software bundle (LINK), a SIM editor (LINK). Check eBay. But from what I have heard it is not easy, takes a long time, and not always successful!
I might try the first option!
If you call your SP, and told them your SIM is broken, they would cancel the serial number (or whatever unique ID inside the chip) and activate the new serial number of the new chip and link it with your account ID. Well, that's what they do here in Canada. two SIMs for one account is feasable, but the two SIMs must have different ID's. If not, there's a big problem with the secirity of the network that offers it.
On O2 you cannot have 2 sims registered on the account. I reccomend either using call divert or just putting your sim in another phone.
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Hi,
I just bought an MDA Pro direct from T-Mobile's website and it was delivered today. Unfortunately, while the PDA side of things works perfectly, it won't connect to T-Mobile at all.
On the 'T-Mobile' start up screen it displays the text 'No GSM' above what I think must be version information.
It reports 'no service' in the phone status bubble, and SIM Manager says: "Only emergency service calls can be made without a PIN" When I enter the PIN I was given, nothing happens. I think it goes into 'change PIN mode' because then I can put two more 4-digit numbers in (it doesn't matter which!) and then it says "Unknown PIN Status. Unknown PIN Error"
Unfortunately it isn't just a SIM problem as the SIM works in my O2 P800.
I've spoken with T-Mobile and they want to swap the handset, which would be fine if they had any in stock! I'm wondering if anyone here had any advice on ways I could try fixing this short of waiting for them to get in touch and tell me they have another handset I can try.
Any suggestions would be much appreciated!
Hi,
what is your local provider ? Is it T-Mobile, Vodafone, E-plus or O2 ?
The mda pro only works with a t-mobile sim !
- Superbowl
Try to clean the sim before putting it back in the MDA Pro,
Generally works for me!
i had the same problem with my jasjar here is Australia......my sim works on any other pda and phones but not the jasjar.....apparently the sim that i have or some of the new sims have a little higher voltage than normal.......and the jasjar dont like it.....so what i did was replace the sim with another one and that worked......al they had to do was port my number to the new sim......but before it did that tried to put the sim in first and it started to look for a network so i knew this was gonna work......becoz before when i put my old sim in it just says invalid sim or no sim........so try replacing ur sim with another one......perhaps try and get an old sim maybe the sim has some in stock.....i bet ya that will wrok....good luck
Thanks guys ... I'm trying to find an older T-Mobile SIM to try. It's just frustrating! I've tried giving the SIM a wipe, to no avail. If it is that the SIM is slightly incompatible, T-Mobile sending out another unit won't really help, right?
How annoying!
If anyone else has any great ideas I'd love to hear them!
try using someone elses sim and put it in the device and give it a try to check if its definitely the unit and not the sim......when i rang the tech support for optus thats what i was advised.....and they were right....sim voltage was the problem......anyways try getting another sim.
Contact customer services.
The problem sounds like you SIM is too old.
They should ask for your SIM serial number, if its too old they'll offer to send you a new SIM or something else to make it work straight away??? :wink:
The MDA PRO as its a 3G type phone with WCDMA it needs a diffrent sim card that is usaly known as a 3V USIM.
Its the same on Three in the UK, the sims from their phones will only work in 3G phones not standard GSM ones and vica-versa.
Old SIMs (from about 5 years ago) are rated at 5 volts. Newer ones are 3 volts (not just for 3G). Trust me, I work for a certain mobile phone company who sponser West Brom. ;-)
The problem will be fixed in a future software upgrade. But for now you need a new SIM or your phone unlocked.
Trouble is, this *is* a new SIM... I'm moving back to the 'hardware fault' diagnosis I think.
I went to a friendly carphone warehouse shop in Oxford and tried a new (and definately working) T-Mobile PAYG SIM and that gave exactly the same error.
Maybe T-Mobile need to send me a 3G SIM. I guess I'm probably just going to have to wait until they can send me a new handset to see what happens.
Ho hum!
There's no such thing as a 3G SIM. The 3G gigery pokery happens on the phone. There is no need for a different SIM. The MDA Pro has a problem with SIMs with certain serial numbers (Don't know which coz I'm not at work). You need either a SIM that the phone likes or your phone unlocked. Call customer services if you still have your phone.
Had the same problem allready twice in 2 weeks.
One time a soft reset made the device working again - another time I had to take out the sim card and put it in again, then it worked. But all email accounts were gone and had to be installed again.
Chris
Slave1 said:
There's no such thing as a 3G SIM. The 3G gigery pokery happens on the phone. There is no need for a different SIM. The MDA Pro has a problem with SIMs with certain serial numbers (Don't know which coz I'm not at work). You need either a SIM that the phone likes or your phone unlocked. Call customer services if you still have your phone.
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Hi, thanks for that reply... it seems very useful! If you could post/pm me the numbers of those SIMs that the MDA Pro is unlikely to like I'd really appreciate it... customer services aren't striking me as very helpful (and certainly not knowledgable) and I can tell that if I call them they're still going to say: Wait until we have another handset in stock and we'll see what happens then. Which doesn't help me much as who knows when that will be?
Thanks!
Any SIM serial not starting with 06 or 07 will be affected by the issue.
eg 90043575, the serial starts with 04.
This will be fixed with a software upgrade in the future, in the mean time you either need new SIM or you handset unlocked. For either call customer services.
I got my MDA Pro a few days ago also, had the same problem as you, basically the handset is network locked, not sure how they managed to lock all UK network, basically give Tmob a call and make sure your stay on the line until they provide with an unlock code, i got mine, now my old sim works and my handset is unlocked
I got my MDA Pro a few days ago also, had the same problem as you, basically the handset is network locked, not sure how they managed to lock all UK network, basically give Tmob a call and make sure your stay on the line until they provide with an unlock code, i got mine, now my old sim works and my handset is unlocked
i had the same problem with my ASUS P535 (here is France) with new SIM card.
seen from :http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?id=20070818011855796&board_id=6&model=P535&page=1&SLanguage=en-us
Thanks.
I had the same problem BUT-
I had the same problem but i had been using the sim card successfully with the exec for a year, after a hard reset it doesnt recognise the sim. will a ROM upgrade fix it or is it a hardware failiure?
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lauriewsmith said:
I had the same problem but i had been using the sim card successfully with the exec for a year, after a hard reset it doesnt recognise the sim. will a ROM upgrade fix it or is it a hardware failiure?
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I had this happening to me just last week with a card that works all the time. Then followed that I had no sound coming off speakers or bluetooth. In my case it was a third party software problem. Don't ask me which as I install and uninstall too many applications and my Uni gets in a tangle sometimes. A soft reset instantly (in terms!) restored phone activities and sound, so I recommend a reset if you haven't tried it already. Maybe you will need more than one.
A little off topic, I know, but has anybody been able to use something like this --> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9104458427&sspagename=ADME:L:RTQ:UK:1&rd=1 to make a copy of their Exec's O2 sim for us in another phone for situations where the exec isn't appropriate?
It would be handy to have a second phone for use when I don't want to take the Exec without having to keep swapping the sim.
Cheers,
Steve.
these wont work for the exec, because you will receive a 3g card from o2. this package looks like it will only take standard gsm sims ie 2 and 2.5g. also, i think the new sims in general are not "crackable" at this point.
Doesn't O2 offer this as a LEGAL service?
The SIM in your phone is probably legally defined as O2 property, and they've probably not agreed to copying of their product.
If you read all of the fine print, you'll probably see some stuff about this.
But, yes: It's nice..
2 sims - one number
They're working on it.
The ebay item doesn't claim to be able to actually clone a SIM card though, just backup up or consolidate if you have multiple SIMs.
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They're working on it.
The ebay item doesn't claim to be able to actually clone a SIM card though, just backup up or consolidate if you have multiple SIMs.
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No, but if you can select between 16 numbers to use, then surely, it's like copying 16 sims into 1? Even if I were to only copy 1 sim, if it could act as if it were that sim in another phone, then that would do the job.
Cheers,
Steve.
There is a slight problem in all of this. You cannot have to sims logged on using the same MISDN . So all that would happen is the operator would be alerted to the fact that 2 sims were trying to usre the same MISDN and you would be put into the fraud management system and the phone might be disconnected.
When people scan and clone phones they do not use the phone on standby for long periods of time they simply make a few calls and switch off. Unless they time it when the real user is logged on and tries to make a call it is unlikely to be picked up.
Also it will vconfuse the HLR in the gsm network .
So all in all onot a good idea.
Charlie
Hm? Back home in the Netherlands we used to be able to get two SIMs with the same number from our providers... The idea was, you had one in your built-in car phone, and one in your portable handset; when you got out of the car, switch that phone off, and the other one on, and it'll register the other SIM, and hey presto! You could not use both SIMs at the same time, ofcourse.
I bought one, THEN read up on the facts (doh!)
There is no de-cryption algorithm for any SIM cards supplied in the UK over the last 2-4 years. True, the old SIMs could be copied, but the v.2 system cannot.
Still, it is a nice piece of kit for reading your SIM contacts over USB, and didn't cost a fortune.
I'm actually quite pleased that SIMs are this secure, 'cos I wouldn't want them easily copyable by the bad guys.
I bought one, THEN read up on the facts (doh!)
There is no de-cryption algorithm for any SIM cards supplied in the UK over the last 2-4 years. True, the old SIMs could be copied, but the v.2 system cannot.
Still, it is a nice piece of kit for reading your SIM contacts over USB, and didn't cost a fortune.
I'm actually quite pleased that SIMs are this secure, 'cos I wouldn't want them easily copyable by the bad guys.
In the Nehterlands I know that KPN and t-Mobile offer dual sims, the problem is as mentioned here already that you can not use them both at the same time. Also if you have 3G sim the second sim you get is not 3G. those are the rules by KPN.
I used to live in Israel and there Orange gives out dua sims where you can keep both phones on. On the incoming call both phones ring at the same time and you can decide which to pick up. The SMS trafic thought goes to the phone which was turned on first. The way they are doing this is by giving both sims an extra GHOST number which used to start with a Zero. then what they did was simply forward the calls between two sims. They had a huge blunder though: Forwarding officially costs money but in this case it has to be free, so they by mistake on their first couple of bill specifications posted the forwarding calls with Zero as charge, thus I was able to know what are the ghost numbers and call between the phones completely for free. It did mean that the you could call the the ghost numbers only from those 2 phones and not any other phone, kind of internal cirquit. So we enjoyed it very much since my wife and me just used those two phones and comunications between these two was free of charge.
So as you see technicaly it is possible to make both phones ring at the same time....
I (so far) successfully prevented to get a company cell. No, it seems that I am loosing that battle and I will have to carry the company's cell phone.
Since, I dont want to carry two phones all the time and my phone (a Prophet) is much better then the companie's provided Razor, I am wondering if I can use a SIM card adapter or anything like that?
Bascially, I would like to use 1 phone but be reachable on my private number as well as the companies number.
Btw, I am using T-Mobile in the US.
Thanks a lot for any help!
Hi,I use this for my spv m600.
http://xetranet.free.fr/spv/dualsim/
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Hi,I use this for my spv m600.
http://xetranet.free.fr/spv/dualsim/
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Does it drain your battery fast? I had a dual sim adapter, but even with the phone off (flight mode) and the device in standby, it was draining the battery. Overnight battery lost about 30% charge. So I stopped using it
Craic Dub,
you can only have I sim active at a time. This means that you will need to set (and eventually pay) for call divert to route calls from the inactive number to the active one.
You could try one of these dual card systems
I use one in my S100 for work & private sim's, has settings menu which allows it to automatically swap between the two sims to retrieve messages ect.
I've been using it for over 1 year & have had no problems with it draining my battery unlike some types seem to do.
Here's a link if you want to buy one http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/product/6579.htm
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You could try one of these dual card systems
I use one in my S100 for work & private sim's, has settings menu which allows it to automatically swap between the two sims to retrieve messages ect.
I've been using it for over 1 year & have had no problems with it draining my battery unlike some types seem to do.
Here's a link if you want to buy one http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/product/6579.htm
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This looks EXACTLY like the one that drains my battery. Mine comes straight from China. Probably electronics is different in the two. So watch out: even if you buy a dual sim card that LOOKS THE SAME as this one suggested by Mister B, you might still have problems.
arg0 said:
This looks EXACTLY like the one that drains my battery. Mine comes straight from China. Probably electronics is different in the two. So watch out: even if you buy a dual sim card that LOOKS THE SAME as this one suggested by Mister B, you might still have problems.
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Yes very true, I purchased my first dual sim card from a shopping mall in Hong Kong. Drained my battery like it was some sort of electronic leech.
The version I purchased from the link in my first post has no adverse effect on battery life. Have many available from ebay ect but I would suggest only buying from suppliers recommended by xda members.
Has anyone got an Ebay dual sim card they would recommend ?
Why don't you just forward your company number to your private number. Then you'll only need 1 card. There's a way of forwarding the call so that you can tell immediately if the call ringing is from your private line or from a fwded call by your company line.
When you go to option in call history, it give you the option NOT to delete call up to a year old...or never. I had mine set to never...but it still deletes the calls. it seems to only be keeping count for a week or two. is there any way to make this setting work?
Cant say i've noticed this since i've flashed my ROM so many times to test out the different Roms, lol.
However, one would presume that the registry entry for this would be the CallHistoryMax DWORD under HKCU\ControlPanel\Phone.
I have change my call History settings numerous times to test this theory but it has no effect on the DWORD value.
Anyone else have similar problems??
S.K.
i have 4 friends with the 8125, they all have the same problem. i too had this problem with my 8125...i was hoping it would go away with the 8525...but no luck. im thinking its something in the OS and not the phone. what you guys think?
any one? try it yourselves guys. this option never works
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any one? try it yourselves guys. this option never works
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Interesting just looked at my call history and I suspect a sim card issue/setting may be the root of your problems.
The reason I say this is that my call history extends way back to January this year long before I even got the Hermes!! Info is therefore stored on the Sim. In addition there are gaps in the dates when I would certainly have made/received calls. This inconsistent recording of the info on calls I believe is related to whether the number dialled or received is recognized by the SIM the Phone memory or both. The longest remembered ones are obviously from the SIMs memory.
Not sure where this gets us exactly but my albeit inconsistent record certainly pre-dates this phone and back to my Motorola days.
Mike
funny you should say that. i just got a new sim card with the 8525...they gave me the 3g sim card. Thats kinda odd it would happen to two diffrent sim cards. i had 3 8125's and they all had this problem. now the 8525. the only phone it worked for was my ipaq 6515....and that was wm2003. It sucks because this is a reeeally good feture to have, you always have a number on file.
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funny you should say that. i just got a new sim card with the 8525...they gave me the 3g sim card. Thats kinda odd it would happen to two diffrent sim cards. i had 3 8125's and they all had this problem. now the 8525. the only phone it worked for was my ipaq 6515....and that was wm2003. It sucks because this is a reeeally good feture to have, you always have a number on file.
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Yes it is strange. I don't think I'm suggesting any kind of fault on the SIMs. But you know how you can save tel numbers to SIM or to Phone - (I always forget which mine is set to) well I just wonder whether this has any bearing on where the call history is saved and or affects how long it is saved for. If it's the SIM and not the phone then there will be limits on storage space for the records. The question then is if it's the SIM which mine must be - how can it be changed to save on Phone memory for a longer record?
Sorry - more questions than answers!
Mike
I recently flashed NAZtech Desire ROM and now the phone does not connect to a network. I just get the "emergency calls only" message, but that (999) doesn't work either.
The APN settings are in and selected, but when I try to select a network I get a message that says this SIM cannot connect to this network, even trying to select automatically gives the same result.
I've tried multiple ROMs and multiple SIMs and yes, I have tried doing a Nandroid restore yet still can't connect to a network.
I've tried flashing a new Radio image and reflashing cyanogen's ROM but that still doesn't work.
N.B. This did not happen imediately after flash, it happened over night as I slept. I woke up one morning and it did not connect, I tried moving to multiple different basestations in different areas with no result.
Nandroid?
The good news is that your radio isn't fully dead, bricking your phone.
This is probably not very helpful (though I don’t think anyone is going to be able to be really), but this sounds like what happens when you IMEI is blocked or invalid. The networks won’t let it connect.
Its happened to me on a pervious phone. Unlocking it caused the IMEI to be set to all 0s. Had reset it before it would connect.
Would also fit as you say it didn’t happen straight after the flash. Maybe it was unconnected?
Any chance this has happened? Ring your network see if they can tell you if its blocked (maybe a mistake when someone reported a missing phone...?) Sorry as I say probably not much help.
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This is probably not very helpful (though I don’t think anyone is going to be able to be really), but this sounds like what happens when you IMEI is blocked or invalid. The networks won’t let it connect.
Its happened to me on a pervious phone. Unlocking it caused the IMEI to be set to all 0s. Had reset it before it would connect.
Would also fit as you say it didn’t happen straight after the flash. Maybe it was unconnected?
Any chance this has happened? Ring your network see if they can tell you if its blocked (maybe a mistake when someone reported a missing phone...?) Sorry as I say probably not much help.
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What would I see if it was blocked? if I enter *#06# It just shows my IMEI number. My phone isn't tied to a contract and I've tried different SIMs so how do I check/or get it unlocked.
Did you try another active sim card, or your sim in another phone? I had this same problem and it was just a dead sim card, went to Tmo and they gave me a new sim card for free, popped it in and it connected in a couple seconds.
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Did you try another active sim card, or your sim in another phone? I had this same problem and it was just a dead sim card, went to Tmo and they gave me a new sim card for free, popped it in and it connected in a couple seconds.
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I'm currently using the Three UK SIM I usually use for my N1 in my old Samsung Omnia, and I've tried another o2 (untied)* contract SIM and another active SIM.
*I know it's unlocked because it was bought for the Xperia X1 and used in two other phones afterwards (within the contract duration which is due to end later this year) - G1 and iPhone 3GS
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What would I see if it was blocked? if I enter *#06# It just shows my IMEI number. My phone isn't tied to a contract and I've tried different SIMs so how do I check/or get it unlocked.
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You would see what you are seeing (you can see the networks but not connect to them). My MUCH older phone that I referred to did much as yours is doing. There was only the option to make emergency calls.
Its possible to report a phone stolen (by its IMEI number) and ALL the networks will block that IMEI number from connecting. Its designed to combat phone theft. Its the same reason that it is illegal to change a phone's IMEI number.
I doubt this is the case (unless you can think of a reason why it might have happened). But maybe ring your network just in case and ask them to check if your IMEI is blocked.