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I had my XDA II stolen at gatwick airport last week (sniff sniff) and am now looking to replace it.
From the complete range of HTC PDA's the XDA IIi seems to be tickling my fancy the most but I haven't really come across a single comprehensive review.
So are people who have purchased it happy?
Whilst I am aware that there are problems with the camera I can live with it as long as it is not worse than the XDA II .
So what say you O Ye owners of the IIi?
Cheers!
I got mine last week and I'm honestly torn...
The camera is CR*P, completely so! But as I never used the one on the XDA2 for more than the odd picture message and photo record I'm not particularly bothered - though it's a cheek for O2 to pronounce it as a major step forward when in many ways it's a regressive one.
My major headache is the IR and Bluetooth...IR seems even worse now than on the XDA2 - unless I'm missing something - and the BT stack currently on my phone means I cannot use the O2 BT clip headset (made by iTech) due to this (in my opinion) stupid handsfree obsession. Surely it would be a good idea to have a headset AND a handsfree option that WORKS. I understand on some headsets it works a treat, but given I've got one being sold by O2 on their website I would normally assume it would work.
That said, the 2i is a great phone in itself and if I weren't already spoilt having had the XDA and XDA2 before it, I would be in absolute amazment.
They've finally managed to get the o2activeui thing in a state which isn't too bad and I may even consider keeping it - though it's harder to remove than in the past.
If you have to upgrade which it sounds as though you do given your circumstances, I'd choose the 2i over the 2s...at least the 2i is a better phone spec wise though without the keyboard (gimmick if you ask me).
Hope this helps (helped me to have the rant, anyway).
Cheers
Anthony
Thanks for the feedback Anthony. One thing that's slightly irritating me is a few places i've visited on the net state how previews often have some of the specs wrong on the O2 site it states that the IIi has 128MB SDRam and 128MB Flash......is this accurate?
Have you tried out the Wifi and if so what d'you reckon?
Does the faster processor make a noticeable difference? e.g on my XDA II I was running loads of today plug ins as well as several applications by default I'd do a soft re-set at least once a day
As for the IIs even though when I compare the II and the IIs side by side it doen't appear that much bigger it still has a bulky-ish look about it and I just don't find it appealing enough to contemplate a purchase.
Your feedback on the above would be appreciated
Cheers
This is on the box...
96MB ROM
128MB SDRAM
I have tried out the Wi-Fi and it seems OK to me, certainly it's a welcome feature. However I don't have a Wi-Fi card that I can compare experiences on...all I know is I didn't have one before and now I have a wi-fi connection. That can't be bad.
I don't have enough stuff loaded onto the phone to make a judgment on the processor. With the 2 I had lots of things running such as WeatherPanel and KitaraGenesis - also at one point Pocket Plus. From what I've seen so far the 2i does feel a bit faster...there's also a Turbo feature which does seem to further increase performance.
The 2i is exactly the same size I think, perhaps a smidge heavier. Having said that, if you compare most mobiles these days, the XDA series is no longer heavier than the majority. Besides, if you've got a PDA phone you're not expecting it to be light as a feather.
As I said previously, now you've got no option I would definitely go to the 2i...
Cheers
A
As to theWiFii hadaXDA2 witha SandiskWiFi Card, then changed to the XDA2s, then after 4 replacements i now have a XDA2i, ifind the XDA2i range and speed of reconnecting to WiFi very very good, the XDA2s worked as well asthe XDA2 + SD WiFi Card.
I like the 2ivery much, only problem is i gave away all my XDA2 bits when i got the 2s, so now i have lots of bits for a phone i dont have and a 2i with no spair bits, got i wish i haddent got rid of my old XDA2 bits
i still soft rest a few times aday, but i am used to donigthis now and dont have a problem doing it, The Bluetooth for headsets (jabbra 250) works as well on the 2i as it did on the old XDA2, where as the 2s was total crap
John
4 replacements???!!! care to elaborate?
Applecom, how do you find the camera?
Has the bluetooth improved at all? With my XDA II I also has a Jabra BT250 whilst I found it excellent at close range as soon as the device was in (or out) the metal proporta case and in my pocket I got alot of static...also can you now hear the different ringtones in your bluetooth headset or is it still the same generic one?
Finally, if I get the phone from O2 with their minimum line rental fee it works out to about 407 quid in total....anyone know of any cheaper places?
Thanks for the feedback once again guys.
After hearing about the new XDA2s i purchased a sim free PDA2k, but the microphone on it was crap and the bluetooth (headset) range was like 6 inches after that it sounded terrible.
So as soon as we could get a UK XDA2s we did ( we are a small phone shop) i got it sim free, This was just as crap as the PDA2k, Sothen i did a upgrade to a XDA2s with o2 Select, and of corse this was crap as well
(by crap i mean the mic was terrible people had problems hearing me, and the bluetooth headset only worked if you held the phone next to it, as a PDA it was sort of alright)
so after speaking to o2 about its problems and the fact the keybopard soon comes loose, it was changed probley every 2-3 weeks, never any better for phopne calls but of corse a new one the keyboard is still tight (for a while)
anyway after the 6th phone (4th o2 replacement) i changed it to a XDA2i
The camera in the XDA2i just gives a bigger crap picture, but at leat i can make phone calls on this one and people can hear me, and i dont have to drive down the road with my bluetooth ear piece in and have to hold the phone to the ear piece to use it
John
dear oh dear.....thats the strongest case i've EVER heard for NOT buying a phone... :shock:
Not to get on your nelly but can you now hear the different ringtones in your bluetooth headset or is it still the same generic one?
Cheers
Leroy
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my jabra 250 just makes the ring sound, just like on the old XDA2, no personalised ring tones, despite using IA Caller 1.2
Thank you all for the info
Does the movie function work better?
I know the camera makes a bigger "crap" photo but how is the video? On my XDAII, with all the today plug in's, the thing records crap even at the best settings. With a fresh ROM and nothing installed, I can get a decent video if I set the refresh rate and set it to daylight, (even for night shots), but after I install some programs, no settings can keep it from being choppy and slow or keep the sound in sync with the video.
Believe it or not, the video function, as bad as it is, actually saved my ass from going to jail.. If the XDA2i has better video performance, and it sounds like the BT is better, I want one... Is there any place besides eBay and O2?
Could someone tell us what version of the BT stack it is?
Any body try it with two serial ports yet? (One for a GPS and one for a Printer or POS device (like from Merchantanywhere.com).
Thank you for your time.
the bt stack on my xda2i is 1.0.0.3900
Mine is also 1.0.3900 and I can't use o2's bt clip headset with it....refuses to play ball yet others work fine.
Grrrrr
Need an update to sort this out.
By clip do you mean the earpiece, with a foot of wire then a clip on bluetooth reciever? If you do O2 sent one of them out to me but as i use a jabra 250 i never tried the clip thing.
Would you like me to try it with my XDA2i (also version 3900)
John
Have you made a decision on a purchase yet?
I have both an XDAII and an XDAIIi and would be willing to give some comparitive information regarding them. Or try to answer any specific questions you have about them.
On another note, what alternatives do we have here with regard to a Windows Mobile device?
.....Hi all, Just seen threads as to where you can get the Brodit cradles for the exec/Jasjar and now the new xda mini s etc from...........
Just letting you all know I have the Brodit XDA etc passive holders available for sale and the active charging versions too.........passive are £20.00 inc 1-2 day postage, special delivery at £4.99 by arrangement.
The active ones across the xda range are between £36.00 to £45.00 depending on model 1-2 day postage inc. (add £4.99 for pre arranged guranteed next day delivery) Not all older models are in stcok every day, so email to check is helpful so you not disappointed.
if you also need a brodit pro clip for your car, I have those also for £17.00, inc 1-2 day postage, or again £4.99 next day. or a gooseneck for £16.00,with Brodit compatible face plate.
I have most car makes for the pro clips in stock, if not I can get them sent direct next day.
PM if you wish to ask any questions or order one, via paypal.
Cheers all,
Bryson
www.dsldevelopments.co.uk for cradle search and pro clip search & online purchase.
Without trying to not to sound like a prick, but is the active holder, just the same holder but with a car charger, or maybe a car carger that maybe fixed to the back of the mount with a little lead you plug into the usb charging socket. By fixed i mean just to make it look neater, there is no power into or out o the holder
Hope that makes sence
John
i'm interested if it offers any GPS power plug in addition to everything else, this way it will be extremelly useful.
thanks.
The Brodit kits available are' passive ' only, as in they only hold the Exec, no inputs for chargers via the mini usb, and no one has yet built a product for a wired GPS or even a dual charging unit for Exec and GPS charging, as in the old arkon style kits. (wired GPS will not yet work via mini usb on the exec)
These are simply passive holders, where you use a cigarette lighter with usb port to mini usb to charge the device(using the supplied cable from o2 or buy an additional usb to mini usb lead)
The active holders are simply as above, but they have the cigarette lighter point to mini usb built into the cradle.........
hope that helps!
Just ordered mine... I'm trialling it for the company in my own vehicle whilst hoping our code monkeys can get our fleet / task management system working on WM 5.
Stand by for updates and photos.
Would you please post a picture of the holder.
Thanks
Report on Pocket GPS World here:
http://www.pocketgpsworld.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=30758
Hi Again,
Had a lot of enquiries, and stocks running low again, so need to know if anyone wants any so I can increase order from Supplier. They really do look and feel great, had the first few satisfied customers for this holder.
Thanks again
Are yours the modified one that now have a left speaker slot as shown on the above PocketGPS link, or do they have the speaker covered, muffled and therefore reducing in-car volume for SatNav considerably?
I was one of the first official suppliers in the UK, I got the 1st shipment a few days ago. Not heard of this as an issue on the ones installed, and certainly not in my car, but I have re-ordered additional stocks so after the posting on http://www.pocketgpsworld.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=30758 this has been rectified by brodit
Thanks, but sorry, it's not clear if the ones you now have in stock are rectified or not? :?
sorry for the confusion, as I stated, I had one of the first deliveries before this issue was noted by Brodit. My stock is exhausted of the 1st versions (no dual speaker hole) My new stock on order, due in next week has the modification.
JJ mount
Hi Bryson
Can you also send to the US ?
I would like to buy one from you. It seems like I can't get it anywhere in the US.
I would like to have the new one (with the hole for the left speaker).
How do I order ?
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sagig said:
Hi Bryson
Can you also send to the US ?
I would like to buy one from you. It seems like I can't get it anywhere in the US.
I would like to have the new one (with the hole for the left speaker).
How do I order ?
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US orders: www.proclipusa.com
I can ship to the USA no problem, but i suspect the cost of shipping might be expensive compared to sourcing internally. However, happy to help if you need it.
Thanks
Proclip USA does not currently have any of the Jasjar/Exec mounts in stock. Only the K-Jam ones. Probably because the Jasjar is primarily a European device. I asked them and they do have some on order and may be in later this week.
Heard from Brodit, production started last wednesday on the new stock, inc official release active holders. Availability to the UK should be some time late this week/early next. This means deliveries may take a few days more than hoped from me. Sorry.
What about Me?
Hey Bryson,
M8, im from India and i am intrested in buying a pda holder for my i mate jasjar + mounting kit (i dont want to make holes in my car). Now, will this whole kit be compatible with my car ford endevour (SUV..indian make)? how much would it cost? I have 10- 15 people who are looking to buy the same thing. please help.
Nish
Hi Nishant,
Ive sent you some details via PM, please let me know what you think,
Thanks again,
Bryson
PS To ALL - I now have the Gooseneck mounts available if you prefer that to Proclips for the Exec/Jasjar etc cradles, again, PM to enquire. Thanks!
Hi All again, furhter to PMs and messages I now have stock of the Brodit ACTIVE Exec cradles and still Passive cradles available.
Please PM me if you are interetsed.
Many Thanks
Bryson
I really don't like the BT headsets yet, still prefer holding a mobile to my ear but the Jasjar is a little big to use with comfort as a phone.
Has anyone thought about using one of these tiny mobiles with BT as a handset paired to the Jasjar? Can this be done.
I would like to holster or belt my jasjar and just drop a normal moby into my pocket???
Also anyone made a bluetooth handset instead of headset, like a mobile but just works as a BT handset?
Regards
I doubt it could be done with handsets at present as the bluetooth specification requires services to be available and for headsets, this is the handsfree/headset profile.
Current handsets look for this to be available on devices to allow audio to go to them, however the current handsets will probably only offer network access, dialup networking, file transfer and possibly a serial port to the jasjar
Interesting concept though, having a handset as a bluetooth headset and something I'd probably be quite interested in seeing developed myself!
er..this sound very odd to me - but then again I only use my Exec as a PDA at the moment.
Anyway, have a look at this as an option (I have ordered one but I know the Universal does not support all the functions yet): http://www.tekkeon.com/site/products-ez3000-specs.php
With the SE P910 you can load the Contacts database onto the headset!
I've just bought an O2 XDA Exec and has exactly the same thought, but could not get it to work.
It depends on the bluetooth "profiles" supported by the mini-handset. I tried it with my previous Sony Ericsson phone (can't remember the model number, but it's about 2 yrs old) and I could only use the handset as a modem (i.e. not much use). You might have better luck with newer handsets, but I would not rely on any mobile phone shop being able to tell you which incoming profiles the handset supports.
Note that there are likely to be problems with caller-display on the handset as the exec only appears to send the incoming number (not the contact name) to the BT device.
If you're set on this approach, I would suggest trying it on any handset you propose using. I can't see that it's worth spending money on this solution though - you may be better off with a phone and a separate PDA.
In order to get a small handset for day to day phone use, I ended up (yesterday) buying a Sony Ericsson HBH660 headset for £50. It has a small caller number display and the voice recognition system (on the exec) seems to work well for making regular calls. I keep it in my pocket and put the exec in my coat/jacket.
Good luck
jah said:
er..this sound very odd to me - but then again I only use my Exec as a PDA at the moment.
Anyway, have a look at this as an option (I have ordered one but I know the Universal does not support all the functions yet): http://www.tekkeon.com/site/products-ez3000-specs.php
With the SE P910 you can load the Contacts database onto the headset!
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That looks right funky! Where did you buy it from?
@hollinshead
I contacted the ebay seller for this: http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Tekkeon-Dig...ryZ15040QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
I paid via PayPal. Should get delivery today or Monday next week.
Or you can buy it from Tekkeon's own online store at their web site (but becareful with import duty etc).
Thanks, I think I'll wait for some UK sellers to get some, and stick to my BT800 for now.
Hi
I badgered some headset manufacturers last year to make the following:
Bluetooth device with handsfree profile (client), included within a *tiny* mobile phone case together with a screen and a keypad, as well as the usual bluetooth headset electronics.
Make it tiny, and trendy - perhaps from brushed aluminium and I reckon such a device would do well. It would have more room inside than a mobile phone case so the battery could be large, and offer perhaps a month of use between charges. It should also charge directly via Mini USB socket and not require any docking stations etc which need lugging about.
Would anyone else here buy such a device, if it were priced at premium headset prices? £50-60 perhaps?
I want it cause holding a universal to your ear causes arm ache! and using a traditional bluetooth headset in a shopping centre make you look like a nob!
Does the headset 1.2 handsfree profile even support a bluetooth headset device with a keyboard?
Nigel
veletron said:
Hi
I badgered some headset manufacturers last year to make the following:
Bluetooth device with handsfree profile (client), included within a *tiny* mobile phone case together with a screen and a keypad, as well as the usual bluetooth headset electronics.
Make it tiny, and trendy - perhaps from brushed aluminium and I reckon such a device would do well. It would have more room inside than a mobile phone case so the battery could be large, and offer perhaps a month of use between charges. It should also charge directly via Mini USB socket and not require any docking stations etc which need lugging about.
Would anyone else here buy such a device, if it were priced at premium headset prices? £50-60 perhaps?
I want it cause holding a universal to your ear causes arm ache! and using a traditional bluetooth headset in a shopping centre make you look like a nob!
Does the headset 1.2 handsfree profile even support a bluetooth headset device with a keyboard?
Nigel
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I will buy one no doubt!!
Let me know if you find it somewhere.
The max price should be 50£ = 80€
I am supprised there isn't such a device already, a blue tooth handset for skype VoIP is whats required and is probably in the pipeline already, but yes I would buy one.
I am supprised there isn't such a device already, a blue tooth handset for skype VoIP is whats required and is probably in the pipeline already, but yes I would buy one.
Well, I had a reply from Jabra saying that they passed email onto their product development lot.
Prob going to require more than one email tho, so badger away.
No reply from the others as yet.
Nigel
ANYCOM Blue Stereo Headset BSH-100 as a possible solution???
ANYCOM Blue Stereo Headset BSH-100
These Bluetooth-enabled stereo headphones are small, lightweight, and fold up for portability. They include a microphone and can be used as a headset for Bluetooth-enabled Windows Mobile Smartphones and Pocket PC Phone Edition devices. In addition, the headset supports the new High-Quality Stereo BT (A2DP) profile, which is built into the new Windows Mobile 5.0 software. The small, rechargeable battery in the headset powers it for up to 7 hours of continuous use and gives it a standby time of up to 200 hours. The headset weighs a mere 2.7 ounces (76 grams) including battery.
More information is available on the Anycom Web site (http://www.anycom.com). You can pre-order the device for $93.95 from the Expansys Web site (http://www.expansys.com).
Stereo wireless Bluetooth headphones that fold and fit into your pocket!
I have had installed in my car a rather nice tbh bury car kit , nice in that you can swap cradles for different phones thus the kit never becomes obselete.
i got a cradle for my hermes but it does not route anything through the kits external speaker making it an expensive charging cradle , i noticed that other htc handsets have software patches to make them work with these cradles but thus far thb have offere no answer to my problem , anyone else have this or a similar kit and found an issue?
Hi,
I found this on another forum
http://www.expansys.co.nz/ft.aspx?i=117490&thread=34
the guy had the same problem, no sound from the hands free kit, turned out to be a faulty cradle
Malcolm
look in their support site, there's a wave.dll or something similar to resolve this issue. It's specific for the tytn:
MDA III - Important information:
If you wish to hear audio response over car speakers, you have to replace file "Wavedev.dll" on your MDA III. Please reset system after replacing. Manual D
check here http://www.bury.com/technologies/GB/hands-free/47/UNI_Take&Talk/HTC/
bottom of the page
did you ever resolve this problem? I use thb kit and eventually got mine working.
Hi,
This is almost covered by a few other threads, but none really address this specific issue (hence the new thread).
What distinguishes this one is that I am looking forward to the HTC Touch Pro 2 and therefore therefore require a car kit that can work with my current handset (O2 branded Kaiser) as well as being compatible with (or upgradable to) the HTC Touch Pro 2.
The car I have has an epically old (Nokia 3310 maybe) car kit already plumbed in (with mic). I am not interested in a bluetooth based kit as I would like to integrate it with the car stereo, possibly using the connections already provided by the current kit.
I also want the phone to stay charged so that I can use it as a GPS device. I would rather it was not windscreen mounted (encourages people to break into cars looking for the GPS device).
I can probably build one out of the bits I have here (although a 3.5mm headset to HTC headset adapter would be required to make it easy, else I'd have to strip cables), but I'd much rather buy a sweet looking commercial kit.
Oh, and the other problem is I am in the UK (so right hand drive car) and not all US released kits are available here (although if it matches my requirements, I might consider importing).
Anyway, thanks for reading this far and I would be grateful for any suggestions or descriptions for how you have achieved any similar solutions.
Cavey
PS If I could also get the moon on a stick, that would be great too