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Battery Usage Reflects in steps of 10%

Was wondering if anyone has a reg hack that allows us to increase the resolution so that the Hermes shows the battery drop by 1% instead of the 10% that we are currently experiencing.

i have the same thing, i think we will have to wait for the next firmware to fix this...

SkyyBoy said:
i have the same thing, i think we will have to wait for the next firmware to fix this...
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Or maybe there is a Registry Tweak for "fixing" it.
(Who says that this is a bug ? Maybe HTC has intended to show it only in steps of 10% in order not to disclose how fast the 100% are gone ???)

Smart, I was wondering why my batteries doesnt go down! Hope we will get a fix soon.

It may do that to keep from polling the battery too often. So it may be a power saving "feature". just a thought.
Later; Lew

Got the same "feature" too.
I was thought it is a bug, or I have misinstalled something.
Joe

anyone have any idea to change it to 1, 2 or 5% per battery level change??

i have an Eten M600 (which uses the same cpu) and that does the same thing. hmmm, wonder if thats a hardware setting or software?

I wonder if "battery status" which was for the Wizard would work as a today plugin on the TyTN?

Ok tested the "batterystatus" plugin for the Wizard on the TyTN and guess what? Still only in increments of 10% must be something built into the device.

I remember this happened with the BlueAngel with the first roms too, and it was corrected in a later rom upgrade... so i guess it's just a rom issue.

found something !!!
problem is in battdrvr.dll as soon as I have copied this file from Wizard to Hermes and after SR battery status was showing 4%
however my battery was charged 90% but it means that in this file is something
responsible for 10% dropping
but even after coping hermes file (battdrvr.dll) back to it, after SR battery
was showing 4%
after HR everything was like before
Hope it is helpfull for someone.

I can't believe this issue is not solved in 1 year!

burkay said:
I can't believe this issue is not solved in 1 year!
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I can't believe you bumped this thread just to say you can't believe the issue hasn't magically been fixed by someone else's hard work.
Sheesh.

A friend of mine has a Mogul and he is having this issue as well on WM6. Having a Hermes on WM5 and WM6, this has always been the case. Shogunmark and Faria discussed this in a thread at length and tried to port the Wizard driver (which would decrease in incriments of 1%) but to no avail. Its a shame such a good device has such a tedious shortcoming.

We're making a big assumption that pocketpc's that report in 1% increments are truly that accurate. I'm sure they're not. It's also fairly likely that reporting in 10% increments increases battery life not just per charge but also over the life of the battery. This is a pretty good tradeoff, in my opinion. I'd rather have a battery that lasts 3 years than have one that lasts one year, wouldn't you?
This is also one of the more nitpickier of the 'complaints' on the Hermes, even if all other things are equal.

rsolomon said:
I can't believe you bumped this thread just to say you can't believe the issue hasn't magically been fixed by someone else's hard work.
Sheesh.
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Why? I guess it is quite normal (i.e. not magical) to expect one of the official roms to have it fixed. And I didn't mean to bump the thread. I got my 8525 only a few days ago and I was reading through the posts in the forum and I saw this one and I was surprised that the first post is more than a year old and no solution was found. I thought it was weird so I wanted to leave a post.
Are we happier now?

Crap, still no soln... I hate this 10% decrements!
Someone help pls!!!

Battery drops to 10%
i had the same issue. I bought a new battery and problem went away. Very sad. but on a positive note, I bought a double life extended battery that last 3 days. Buy on ebay for 22 dollars.
Also, you can just take the battery out and put it back in. once in a while, it recognize that your battery is actually full. This is temperary though

I hate this issue too!!
I notice also a little "incompatibility with Baterystatus, when I power on the PPC from sleep, it shows for some seconds the battery level at -1% (!!!)
not only: the shown themperature battery is always too high, never under 48° SIMPLY IMPOSSIBLE
I think that this could be a hardware/software problem, i mean that software could not read the exact parameters of the battery, not only the battery level but also other information
Hope this will help bye
Marcy1987

Has the battery gone bad ?

hi mates, i am using Universal (O2 XDA EXEC) for the last 13 months. I am usin' it with the original ROM, which i got with the device, at the time of purchase. It's about the battery, the normal battery backup is good. However, everytime when my battery goes down to 20%, the device turns off. It doesn't power on without the AC power. It happens everyime at 20%.
So, before goin' in for a new battery, i just wanted to make sure that there is nothin' else, which could be wrong.
Is there anything else, which i should check ?
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first of all, i think this is the wrong place to post such a question. bring the phone back and let them repair it (warranty)!!!
regards chief

my o2 xda IIs shuts off at 80% about 2 months ago and that was fine, figuring that it just happens when i keep wlan turned on. lately, at 90% it shuts off. i know its the battery causing this. this phone has been about almost 2years old and i know the battery just needs replacement. i'm thinking of buying one soon.

Yeah, I got O2 XDA IIS. the phone shut down at 40% battery, and there was once it shut down at 60% while WLAN was on (this only happened once - other occassion was ok). I have had my phone for about 2.5 years. I believe this is battery issue...

Thank you, folks..

HD2 battery test...

I am having problems with my battery life on HD2.
Currently I use ROM Duttys Leo V2.2 with radio 2.06.51.07, but I tried atleast 10-15 different ROMs and radios (Miri/Laurentius26/Xanny/Sternas ROMs and others with all bases from 1.66 up to 2.10).
I made several tests with tbattery and logged the results, this is what i get (Current values):
- screen off -> -13
- screen on 10% -> -83
- screen on 30% -> -102
- screen on 100% -> -214
The tests were made on 2G connection with max signal, with no data connection.
My battery usually barely lasts 2 days with very light usage, with moderate usage i have to charge the phone every day. Maybe this is normal, I just hope it's not...
Can someone throw up some comparison numbers please? I already wanted to bring the phone back and demand a new one but I am not sure if something is actually wrong with it.
BTW, I use MTTY for flashing and always do a hard reset after the first full boot. Tests were done with a clean ROM install, with no aditional processes running.

verry much like this
anyway its normal im affraid of with moderate use and the end of the day i have about 40% left.

Yes, perfectly normal battery life, sorry to disappoint but that's how it goes with smartphones

It is running a computer spec, that, not even 8 years ago, had to rely on mains power. Not to mention the internet router, the screen, the GPS device, and not least the phone which are all inbuilt. I think running it for a day on a battery is pretty impressive personally.

Thanks for the info guys, I feel much better after reading that battery post from kilrah...
I was sure there is something wrong with my device, but when I look at it from rp-x1's point of view, I guess it's not that bad...

mafijozo said:
Thanks for the info guys, I feel much better after reading that battery post from kilrah...
I was sure there is something wrong with my device, but when I look at it from rp-x1's point of view, I guess it's not that bad...
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Sorry to put a downer on you, but its the way I look at it. I know it isn't the biggest capacity battery, which does have a bad effect on battery life, but unfortunately it is a computer with a phone, rather than the other way round.
My previous phones:
Nokia 3310 (basic phone) - a week
Nokia 7610 (one of the first proper mainstream "smartphones" by Nokia) - 3 days
Nokia E90 Communicator (their flagship smartphone) - 2 days - at a push
Sony Ericsson Xperia X1 - 1.5 - 2 days - at a push
Blackberry Bold 9000 - a few days, if I don't actually use it.
HTC HD2 - 1 - 2 days (dependant on usage)
It seems to be the norm for a smartphone/pocketpc to be around a day to a couple of days on a charge.
To add a bit of perspective, my colleague has an iPhone, and it lasted a whole 3 hours on a single charge when using Exchange Push-Mail. It usually only lasts a day too.

At least on the HD2 you can change battery and go on

kilrah said:
At least on the HD2 you can change battery and go on
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Yes you have a point there, when I had my iPhone and used it as much as i use HD2 last few weeks the battery was about the same...

mafijozo said:
Yes you have a point there, when I had my iPhone and used it as much as i use HD2 last few weeks the battery was about the same...
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so true i bought a battery from ebay ( was only €4 and its almost as good as the original one, it only fits a bit too tight..) i always have a spare fully charged one in my wallet

Battery Life???

I heard the standby time on this phone is awesome.
When I got it, the standby time was terrible!
How can I improve battery life?
What am I missing?
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This is my experiance.
When I bought the phone...first 3 times I fully discharged my battery and charge it over night when he was off. 3 times like that, one kind of "formating" battery process.
Now with stock ROM 1.66 WWE EastEurope...5-6 programs and 3 games,with normal use I can used him 48h, with full use of everything...24h.
In standbye over night 1%/3h dropps down...

Smartmob said:
This is my experiance.
When I bought the phone...first 3 times I fully discharged my battery and charge it over night when he was off. 3 times like that, one kind of "formating" battery process.
Now with stock ROM 1.66 WWE EastEurope...5-6 programs and 3 games,with normal use I can used him 48h, with full use of everything...24h.
In standbye over night 1%/3h dropps down...
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hey thanks! I'll try that. so just let the battery die then charge it up again and repeat?

Do a search. I average about 2.5 days of moderate use.

please don't let your battery die.
Li_ion batteries doesn't suffer from memory loss, so there is no reason to let it discharge fully. let it get low like 3-5%.
but besides that, conditioning of the battery is important on a new battery.
if you flash a new ROM, it is also important to go through cycles before it configured the correct battery capacity.
i got it a couple of days ago as well, and standby time is very impressive. batteryrarely drops over-night.
the problem is during the day with heavy usage...

rickyoon.vegas said:
please don't let your battery die.
Li_ion batteries doesn't suffer from memory loss, so there is no reason to let it discharge fully. let it get low like 3-5%.
but besides that, conditioning of the battery is important on a new battery.
if you flash a new ROM, it is also important to go through cycles before it configured the correct battery capacity.
i got it a couple of days ago as well, and standby time is very impressive. batteryrarely drops over-night.
the problem is during the day with heavy usage...
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last night I let it go down to 6% and then powered off.
Then I charged to 100% overnight and I think the life today is better than normal.
I've played a little tekken and I still have 4 filled in battery slots!

Turn off push email and limit anything that updates automatically (weather, facebook info etc..) I went from 1 day to 3 days just by doing that.

johncmolyneux said:
Turn off push email and limit anything that updates automatically (weather, facebook info etc..) I went from 1 day to 3 days just by doing that.
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oh wow. so if I turn these things that update automatically, can I still hit update now?
I do that now anyway!

Yes...you can always hit "Update now" when you wanna se any new update.
Today...i phoned for cca 3min, send & recieve 20SMS, 20min playing with device...and my battery drops on 85% now...from 8h in the morning...thats in 14h 15%

Is it possible to make maybe that it won't update weather at night?

hiddengopher said:
oh wow. so if I turn these things that update automatically, can I still hit update now?
I do that now anyway!
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As smartmob says, yes. I did it like that for a few days but ended up switching most things back on (email accounts, weather, ms myphone etc.), but with longer intervals between things.
I was suprised how much of a difference turning off these things made to be honest. Turns out that my telling off from O2 (1.2GB of data in a week ) was a blessing in disguise

Smartmob said:
This is my experiance.
When I bought the phone...first 3 times I fully discharged my battery and charge it over night when he was off. 3 times like that, one kind of "formating" battery process.
Now with stock ROM 1.66 WWE EastEurope...5-6 programs and 3 games,with normal use I can used him 48h, with full use of everything...24h.
In standbye over night 1%/3h dropps down...
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where did u get 1.66 wwe east europe stock rom its not out yet

Hmm, so having read up on some posts claiming that battery life steadily improves with the HD2, I've been patient since Wed (when I got the phone, TMOUS HD2), but my battery life is still horrific. I've got every auto update off, besides weather and email every half hour. I've adjusted every other option I could think of that would drain the battery, and yet, I'm experiencing at best, a 6-7 hour usage with NO web browsing, 2-3 calls, and about 10 texts. In standby alone, my phone is dropping 2-3% every half hour it seems. Also, I've made sure that no superfluous programs are running in the background via taskmanager. Now I've read that others have had poor battery life too, but my case seems pretty bad, and don't see hope that the battery will improve much beyond this. Is it possible that my phone is faulty or that my battery's faulty? or perhaps even both?

joefosho315 said:
Hmm, so having read up on some posts claiming that battery life steadily improves with the HD2, I've been patient since Wed (when I got the phone, TMOUS HD2), but my battery life is still horrific. I've got every auto update off, besides weather and email every half hour. I've adjusted every other option I could think of that would drain the battery, and yet, I'm experiencing at best, a 6-7 hour usage with NO web browsing, 2-3 calls, and about 10 texts. In standby alone, my phone is dropping 2-3% every half hour it seems. Also, I've made sure that no superfluous programs are running in the background via taskmanager. Now I've read that others have had poor battery life too, but my case seems pretty bad, and don't see hope that the battery will improve much beyond this. Is it possible that my phone is faulty or that my battery's faulty? or perhaps even both?
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There's obviously something wrong somewhere, isn't there!
Perhaps it may be a good idea to try a different battery. It obviously means buying a new one (and not some cheap crap off ebay either!), but it's an easier option than sending your lovely new phone away for repair.

same here
especially coming from a nexus one, since day 1 i have tried all of these solutions and no success.. i did a hard reset as well just to see if that had anything to do with it and it didnt..
im at 40% and i have had the phone for 6 hours and a half, i literally sent 10 texts and called 2 people for a total of 20 minutes.. really strange..
i wish these smartphones had bb battery lives lol, but then again my bb didnt really have a huge screen or touchscreens

yeah if I can't figure out what's causing the issue, I might just go ahead and get my HD2 exchanged for a new one since I'm still within the 14 day return period for Tmobile. Too bad I already applied my screen protector! What a waste...

joefosho315 said:
Hmm, so having read up on some posts claiming that battery life steadily improves with the HD2, I've been patient since Wed (when I got the phone, TMOUS HD2), but my battery life is still horrific. I've got every auto update off, besides weather and email every half hour. I've adjusted every other option I could think of that would drain the battery, and yet, I'm experiencing at best, a 6-7 hour usage with NO web browsing, 2-3 calls, and about 10 texts. In standby alone, my phone is dropping 2-3% every half hour it seems. Also, I've made sure that no superfluous programs are running in the background via taskmanager. Now I've read that others have had poor battery life too, but my case seems pretty bad, and don't see hope that the battery will improve much beyond this. Is it possible that my phone is faulty or that my battery's faulty? or perhaps even both?
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Maybe you can try using with no sd card. Some people found out that one faulty mp3 may cause such issue. Have a look at the topic 'Extreme battery usage with non-official ROMs' under HD2 ROM Development section.
I wanted to post a link for this topic but I cannot post link due to some restrictions.

Interesting, thanks for the heads up. The thing is, I've only been running the stock factory ROM, and I haven't even uploaded any MP3's onto the device either. Anyhow, I'll give a read through and take my SD card out now to see if it helps!

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where did u get 1.66 wwe east europe stock rom its not out yet
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Evo, ovdje klikni na prvi link i u folderu 1.66 ćeš naći i EastEurope Nije službeno izašao...ali ga ima ovdje...neznam kako ali ima, ja ga instalirao i kao svaki drugi stock ROM je.
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Here, click on this link and find it in 1.66 folder. Its not officily out, but its here. I install it normaly like every other stock ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=577717

johncmolyneux said:
There's obviously something wrong somewhere, isn't there!
Perhaps it may be a good idea to try a different battery. It obviously means buying a new one (and not some cheap crap off ebay either!), but it's an easier option than sending your lovely new phone away for repair.
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I'm beginning to think there's something faulty with the TMO-US HD2's.
We should do some testing...

[Q] Battery drain, need help

My HTC Blackstone's battery never lasts more than a day. It overheats all the time, sometimes i charge it leave it overnight and it loses all its power and is unable to charge or turn on unless i remove the battery and put it back in.
Ive tried many roms and radios but still battery power never lasts more than a day even when i dont leave wifi on or run background apps, i use the lowest backlight
I think i need a new battery can anyone recommend links for a good battery, the best rom for power consumption and best radio rom as well.
i currently have a kwbr 5.7wwe rom and radio 1.17.25.09
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16705107#post16705107

Hi,
I use the same ROM & radio, and with the stock battery the device easily lasts a couple of days (depending on usage of course). So I'd also say your battery may need a replacement.
I'd go for an official/stock one.

gummbah30 said:
Hi,
I use the same ROM & radio, and with the stock battery the device easily lasts a couple of days (depending on usage of course). So I'd also say your battery may need a replacement.
I'd go for an official/stock one.
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the one that came with my phone is a 1350mah is a 1500mah better?
can you send me links of good batteries?
http://uk-batteries-galore.co.uk/in...tpl&page=shop.product_details&product_id=2381
is this good?

@Mickeystar
hi,
your problem is definatly your battery, trust me
ebay is probably your best bet for a new battery, but like gummbah30 said, its best to get an official/original battery.
("original/official anything" is always better than the cheep copied-crap )
when you get your new battery:
*PUT BATTERY IN DEVICE
*KEEP DEVICE OFF (do not turn device on!)
*CHARGE UNTILL FULL (green LED when done)
*DONE
#this is so the battery has a full charge before being used, in the past ive bought a new battery and turned the device on straight away - within minuates the battery was DEAD and totally unusable - a dud and a waste of money.
this is why i tell people to charge while device is off!

You'll find some interesting data in http://batteryuniversity.com/ about why your battery overheats and what happens with it. (It's related to a vendor, I don't know whom, but the info is very good for everyone)
I'm using a Cameron Sino on my Kaiser and it's running very well, but, as you've been told, it's better if you can obtain an original battery. My Blackstone battery also overheats when doing some full-CPU activities so I'll need a new battery soon.
I don't know what's inside the batts, I heard something about chips which communicate with the device, and thus, an original battery will have true info while others will send/receive different data. (But in this, I don't know if I'm mistaken)

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Yon't know if I'm mistaken)
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thanks but can you link me too a good battery, why are stock ones better?
can i buy from instore e.g. carphone warehouse, im from uk

battery on ebay: here
i doubt carphone warehouse will have batteries in stock for blackstone because they probably dont sell blackstone anymore.
genuine batteies last longer amongst other things

raving_nanza said:
battery on ebay: here
i doubt carphone warehouse will have batteries in stock for blackstone because they probably dont sell blackstone anymore.
genuine batteies last longer amongst other things
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thinking off getting zte blade/ orange san francisco what do you think?

try change the radio and rom

dewasha said:
try change the radio and rom
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hi dude,
you are right, rom and radio can drain the battery but not this quickly, its definatly a battery issue.. all the symptoms point to battery:
OP said:
*overheats all the time
*charge it overnight and it loses all its power
*unable to charge or turn on unless i remove the battery and put it back in.
*tried many roms and radios
*power never lasts more than a day
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i´ve got the problem (i think it is the battery), beacuse i charge my phone to 100% and i surf for about 5 minutes and then listen music and shuts down instantly, so i don´t know is this battery from ebay any good. It is the 3000mAh CE Extended Battery For HTC Touch HD/T8282 B17 (i can´t post outside link sorry)
thanks

* shuts off instantly (for no reason)
yup battery issue by the sounds of it, but like i said before its best if you buy a genuine htc blackstone/touch hd battery.
(its up to you if you buy an extended battery, personally id buy the standard genuine battery)