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Use PocketPC as USB mass storage

I wonder if there's any software to operate PocketPC as USB Stick available (like for Palm Tungsten T5 - Drive Mode)? So basically I would like to use PocketPC drives just as a USB Stick (without Activesync of course)
Thanks,
Georg

this cannot be done in software.

let me rehash this topic
Can anyone here kindly explain me why it aint possible to use PPC as USB MassStorageDevice? I know you need USB Host Controller chip to handle that stuff in hardware. Why cant we emulate its function in software? In the end its only sending signals to the pc?
How does the device upgrade process work then? you also have to transfer data to ppc rom here.
I know that it wont be easy to give a simple explanation, could anyone try it anyway?
thank you for your help!
regards,
Quappo

i think it would be possible to do in software
if it cant then it's because that it's hardcoded in the pda that when it interduce itself to the pc as a plug'n'play device it does so as a pda
if that cant be changed then you cant do it

I've found some interesting SW tools:
here: http://www.softick.com/pocket-pc/cardexport2/#compatibility
and here : http://www.deje.gmxhome.de/download.html
You mast pay for the first one :?
but the second (if you like) it's free !
Have a look !!

Carlo said:
I've found some interesting SW tools:
here: ...
and here : http://www.deje.gmxhome.de/download.html
... the second (if you like) it's free !
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You were misleaded. The named tool can be used on PDAs having USB host functionality to connect other hard drives. It won't let your PDA be recognized as a USB stick.

Yes - in general case you can do it.
It is possible to write software which allow to represent PPC with USB end-point hardware as USB Mass Storage device.
Question is - how?
It seems device will need to supply correct descriptors at USB enumeration process and device will have to correctly process appropriate comands from host device (PC or something else)
again - how?
It seems someone will need to write low level software to manage USB endpoint hardware in PPC. it may look like kernel mode driver.
What to need? - doc for USB endpoint device and ability to write driver to manage this hardware.
It isn't difficult - but every PPC will need own device driver.
Or if the USB dev has some interface to supply descriptors and process commands from host (internal - inside system, or app level) - it can be done at some level of abstraction.
Resume
- it is possible
- need to know details about device and USB interface in this PPC.

ryhor - soft stick export does it perfectly. Either use that, or reverse engineer it...
Very useful for non activesynced pcs: keep a copy of activesync install on your SD card, use softstick, install activesync from PPC "usb drive", then switch over to activesync and sync away.
V

vijay555 said:
ryhor - soft stick export does it perfectly. Either use that, or reverse engineer it...
Very useful for non activesynced pcs: keep a copy of activesync install on your SD card, use softstick, install activesync from PPC "usb drive", then switch over to activesync and sync away.
V
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This seems very interesting. Can you tell me how the PPC shows on the Windows PC desktop? It has mostly two drives then, a possible SD card included.
Can you change the drive letter via local disk management?
Happen to know if it would work on Jasjar?
Huib

I've no idea how it works on WM5, you'll have to check their site: either way, I'm sure they're working on it.
How it works: you get a little icon in your tray (on Today screen). From there you can choose either to activesync or USB Drive when you connect your usb lead. You can choose which drive to use as a usb drive, ie storage or storage card. Only one at a time though.
Then, stick in your usb lead, and after a few seconds of recognising new hardware, it'll recognise the phone as a standard USB drive, ie a normal drive. I believe the drive letter can be changed in drive management.
I don't think it needs any drivers on >WinXP.
V

vijay555 said:
I've no idea how it works on WM5, you'll have to check their site: either way, I'm sure they're working on it.
How it works: you get a little icon in your tray (on Today screen). From there you can choose either to activesync or USB Drive when you connect your usb lead. You can choose which drive to use as a usb drive, ie storage or storage card. Only one at a time though.
Then, stick in your usb lead, and after a few seconds of recognising new hardware, it'll recognise the phone as a standard USB drive, ie a normal drive. I believe the drive letter can be changed in drive management.
I don't think it needs any drivers on >WinXP.
V
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Thanks, I will defenitely buy this stuff when they make a Universal Version.
Huib

if it works on wm2005 then it works on universal too

Activating USB Mass storage device mode

I've read somwhere that Windows Mobile 5 has built-in support for actiing ass a usb mass storage device.
Is this true?
How do I activate it, when connecting to a computer (win xp, win2003, OS X.3)the device gets listed as GENEREIC RNDIS.
Qtek 9100
Windows mobile 5 (norwegian)
Kingston 1GB miniSD card

You can always try Softick Card Export if you don't succeed.
Cheers, M

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You can always try Softick Card Export if you don't succeed.
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Last time i checked, unfortuantely CE wasn't compatible with windows mobile 5.
Andreas

Sorry,
Try writing an e-mail to the developer, like des did. Maybe it helps.
Regards, M

WM 5.0 as USD Device
What a dream, how nice if WM 5 did support USB devices or memory readers, transfer files from Camera etc without removing cards.
I havce seen 3rd party freeware downloads that allow a pocket pc , magician/universal to act a usb drive from a PC.
Not sure if thats what you mean. Easier than having to go through activesync.
Wish my pda supported usb 2 go for backups.

CE2 is such a product, although not free & the only one I know off. If you found another one & post it you make a lot of people happy.
Regards, M

You're talking about using the Wizard as a mass storage device, rather than using mass storage devices on the client, aren't you?
The Zaurus range can do this, all you need to do is tell the device to act as mass storage. How you enable it on the wizard is beyond my knowledge, but I guess you'll need to either poke in the registry or use some switching software.
It'd be neat if you can do this!

Whats wrong with using Explore under Active sync... or even a short cut to it... I do.
Terran

You need active sync installed and that is not available for OS X or Windows Server 2003 without SP1
Result I can't connect to my computer at work, or my laptop at home.
Only computer willing to sync is my old winxp box which is downgraded from home computer to file and webserver.
Andreas

Don't know what the wizard speeds are, on a magician it's too [email protected] slow!

I also read that it should be possible to use the mda compact II as a mass storage device, without any extra software. But I didn't find the option now...
MAybe they will add it in a later rom-version (I hope so..)
But honestly I don't think they will do this, so we have to hope that
softtick will program it for use
Regards,
km

with the Eten M500 it was possible to use it as a USB host, so connecting eg your USB cable from your digital camera directly to your pocket PC. But now, with the new Eten M600 this nice functionality has been lost...
So I think this was a specific device functionality, which was made by Eten for the M500, but I doubt it is a standard WM 5 functionality...
CIAO!
VOODOOS!L

I have managed to network my wizard and my powerbook using the wifi connection quite sucessfully. I can log into my account and access the harddrive volumes. Still can't sink with contacts though.
Steve

XDA mini s as a USB Pen Drive?

Hello.
Just got my XDA Mini S today and am in the process of upgrading the ROM and doing some other custimizations to it before I start using it. One thing that I do not yet have is a miniSD card. I am leaning towards getting a 2GB card, but as I recently got an iPod Nano I know that I will not be using the XDA as my main music source. I do however make frequent use of USB PenDrives and would get the 2GB card if the XDA can be used as one. So my question is as follows: if I plug in the XDA into any computer will it show up as an portable drive or does it require the instilation of the software everytime? I only have one computer (and no miniSD card ) so I have no means of testing this. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks for the help!
Pomidor

USB Pen Drive
Hi - if I understand you correctly - you are correct in assuming you would need to install ActivSync on all machines you require the device to connect too and establish a paternership with each PC. Not ideal.
However if you were able to do this this device shows as a "mobile device" under "My Computer" and you can use explorer to do all the normal file transfer options - cut, copy paste etc.
You could look at utilising the Bluetooth or Infrared ports to transfer files to the SD card - however the receiving PC would need to be capable of accepting files in this way - indeed a bluetooth partnership would need to be established with each PC also - so maybe no improvement over ActivSync.
I hope this helps - indeed someone out there may now of an easy after market program that could do it. :lol:

Hi,
I use softick's CardExport II (version 2.11) to switch between ActiveSync mode and USB PenDrive mode.
Version 2.12 is available, but that doesn't work for me; it doesn't recognise the PenDrive with it. Version 2.11 however is working like a charme for me.
Cheers,
Cacti

Pb with my USB cable

Hello!
I'm quite a newbie in the whole HTC world, so please answer with simple words!
Here is my problem : my HTC just wouldn't "see" my PC (neither under XP nor under Vista) when I plug the USB cable. Of course, I have already tried to reinstall ActiveSync (XP) or Sync Stuffcenter (Vista), but it doesn't work.
The battery is still charging so I assume that the cable is not broken...
Do you know if the USB cable HAS to be the HTC one? (I might currently be trying to use a Canon or Nikon one, initially designed for a digital camera...)
Any other idea?
Thanks,
Ced

on your htc try going to
1º- settings:
2º- system:
3º- then go were it say´s usb to pc
4º- there you will find a box ,if it has a check on it then uncheck it ,but if it
dont have a check on it then check it
5º- have fun with your device

In alternative....
...Make sure that activesync is talking to the USB port: On the windows PC, open activesync and look in the menu File-->Connection settings. Make sure that "Allow USB Connections" is ticked.
By the way, i don't understand why but once in a while this checkbox becomes unticked without reason....do you have the same?

Thanks for your answers, but it still isn't working...
@pzucchel : on Vista, ActiveSync does not exist I think... and on Sync Center, there is no such thing as "allow USB connections..."
@LAMM44 : the case was unchecked, so I checked it, and here, miracle, my computer shows me a window telling me that it is uninstalling something... ... ...and then... ...nothing! The PDA doesn't have a letter, this bl..dy SyncCenter does not see anything, ...
Thanks anyway, if you have any other suggestion?
Any service which might not be running and should be activated on Vista? (I don't think so, because it is not working on XP either)
Any thoughts about this USB cable thing?( Do you know if the USB cable HAS to be the HTC one? (I might currently be trying to use a Canon or Nikon one, initially designed for a digital camera...))
Ced
EDIT : the "uninstalling" thing was about Windows Mobile Device Center. When I run this program, I can see the "allow USB connections" case, which is checked... but with the case on the PDA checked or not (the one with the advanced network stuff), WM Device Center still says that the mobile device is not connected...

I can confirm you can use Any USB cable (i am presently using one from Garmin) - even through USB routers. You are right - my comment on the USB port was related to win XP. BTW, are you sure you are using an up-to-date activesync?

I have downloaded the last one on XP yesterday... But not on my computer (mine works with vista).
I can try to update Vista WM device Center... but this should have worked on XP!
Thanks for the answer about the USB cable... It seems to be a pb on my HTC then. I went through all the menus but don't see anything relevant...

...did you consider a hard reset? of course, not having activesync you cannot back up- but maybe you can use the sd card.
are you using active sync 4.5? do you have an original rom?

Yes, I wanted to do a hard reset... but not without backing up my contact and SMS!
Would you know where these are stored in the memory? (if I could just copy/paste a folder on the SD card, then I could reinstall windows mobile completely...)
I tried ActiveSync 4.5 on XP yesterday yes. I have never reinstalled WM, so I am a bit lost... What is an original ROM? If it is a DVD of WM or something, I have to search, I am not even sure I have it... I think I have the initial HTC DVD, but is there WM on it? Certainely...
BTW, would you advise me to install WM6 instead of WM5? Is it faster? And a last question : what does "ROM Tnyynt 015 (CE OS 5.2.20273 Build 20273.1.3.3) " mean? (I must admit that I don't understand I mere word of the Trinity wiki... what is a kitchen ROM for instance???)

OK, a few things to be explained!
you probably bought your trinity and it comes with an ORIGINAL rom inside it, that should be more or less working. For example, initial roms didn't even allow to use the internal GPS, that was installed but not usable because of software issues.
I don't know where you live or where you bought it, but typically your telephone company or the seller (dopod, HTC, Qtek) provide regional upgrades and improvements of the operating system (windows mobile) and of the radio rom (the one controlling WiFi, GSM, GPS, Bluetooth, etc.). Sometimes it is the case, sometimes they forget about you since you bought it and they got their money - bye bye!!!!
Then....comes XDA-Developers!
here, we generate our own operating systems and improve further the possibilities of the various systems. For example, many of us are using Windows mobile 6.0 and 6.1 on the trinity, we can switch a french telephone into an english telephone, unlock the telephone to be used in any country, etc.etc.
A telephone is much more powerful than a PC 10 years ago: in terms of processor, graphics, memory, I/O. Not a surprise that, as a PC, software can be improved. Believe me (it is at least three years i am following this): the speed, functionality and performances of the telephone can greatly improve!!! I am using the rom cooked by TNYYNT, version 15, which is based on windows mobile 6.1 and a very recent release (build) of it.
Main negative consequence of installing a cooked rom: don't expect that warranty will be valid!
Said this, a warning: you do it at your own risk. Therefore my suggestion is READ before you do things. Now your activesync problem is minor, but making the wrong upgrade could block your telephone. Nothing is "forever", but a badly stuck telephone requires good skill to recovery it.
So, step by step: is anything else working in your system? if so, i would concentrate in this active-sync problem only, for the time being.
If you would be intrigued in learning more and play with your P3600 (or P3600i, there are actually two models!) then be preparred in reading a lot on this forum! in this case, start from here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Trinity
I hope i was able to make things a bit clearer for you, don't hesitate in asking more.

i see it right now: to backup your contacts and SMS, without activesync, you can do it with this program called pimbackup that is described in
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299705
you could download it directly from the telephone (or send it by email), save the installation program onto the minisd and save the contacts/sms onto the minisd card (Storage card). Then, after the hard reboot, you will have to reinstall the pimbackup and restore the contacts/sms again. is it OK?

Thanks a lot for these explanations! I will try pimbackup tonight.
Actually, I bought my HTC on ebay, and the previous owner had upgraded it to have the radio working, and had installed a lot of softwares and tweaks... But now I would like to choose my own! I understand the principle of the ROM upgrade of course, but I am just a bit lost with all the different ROMs! What is a kitchen ROM, what does "dump the ROM" mean? See, I would need a back-to-basics tutorial!
BTW, is it legal? (I mean, the packed ROMs come with Windows isn't it?) just to know!
Thanks again!

Hi, the fact that there are a lot of tweaks and radio upgrades on your HTC doesn't play much in your favour!
When you are ready, and only when you are ready, go and install Radio Rom 1.56 and the rom TNYYNT 017 (I am ASSUMING you have a P3600 and not a P3600i...right?)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=413612
somebody could disagree...but i think it is the best choice!
Concerning the legal aspects, i am not a lawyer but microsoft is well aware of the XDA-Developers site, including HTC and the involved companies. Many of us do believe they use this site for beta-testing....but again, search yourself on the site to know microsoft's opinion...
My argument: I paid for the WM license, I bought the hardware and i would like to have a nicely working system - if they are ready to support their customers they should let us know ;;;;-)

By the way - about your question on the "legality" that made me thinking about it . Read this thread and enjoy it!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=290190

Whaou, great post about the legality, thanks!
I think I have a 3600 and not a 3600i (I am a bit ashamed, but I don't know how to know this.......), but the fact that the radio wasn't activated when the previous owner bought it seems to mean it was the 3600, no?
Thanks a lot for PIMBackup, it worked perfectely, and really fast!
Now that my backup is done, I'm a bit stuck, because I still haven't solved the USB problem, and I need the connection to download the ROM...

ready for a hard-reset? settings-->Clear Storage (dont worry - it will not clear the minisd...)

just before the hard-reset : do you think my usb connection has any chance of working after that?
EDIT : hard reset done, USB working just fine!!! Thanks a lot!
Now I'm ready to spend hours trying to install install Radio Rom 1.56 and the rom TNYYNT 017.
(do I need to install TNYYNT first?)
EDIT2 : OK, I have installed TNYYNT 017, it's really simple actually, and must faster than my bugged WM5! I haven't tried the radio yet.
Thanks again!
EDIT3 : BTW, would you advise me to install Tomtom 6 or 7? Thanks again!

Answer one: of course i think you have some chance...especially now that i know it works!
Answer two: go for the radio rom...and donate to TNYYNT since he did really a great job. If you try other roms, you will notice the difference (i tried all of them, essentially). The radio rom is also very great in my opinion, and the update is easy.
Answer three: TomTom 7.4 is indeed the best (even better than IGo).
I am happy that it worked out and i was helpful.

Tomtom 7.4?
On tomtom's website, I can only see the 6th version of Tomtom Navigator (http://www.tomtom.com/products/category.php?ID=2&Language=1)
Where could I find the 7th?

Hi again!
I'm quite happy with my installation now, I tweaked a bit starting from TNYYNT 017, then Radio Rom 1.56.
In particular, I followed the instruction of http://www.milow.net/public/projects/windows-mobile-skin.html to have a nice iPhone-like skin.
Now, I would like to make a backup of these few hours!
(I'd like to make make my own ROM, is it "dump the ROM"? if yes, would you have something clearer than http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_HowtoDumpRom ?)
I still have one problem, my internet WLAN connection doesn't seem to work (right after the installation of TNYYNT and radio 1.56). My Wifi is seen, the password entered and it says "connected", but when I launch any webpage with internet explorer, it stays at the "locating" stage (first, "Connecting" is written, then "Locating", then... nothing!). Any idea please?
Thanks again for all your help!!!
EDIT : hhhoooo noooo, now I've got this blinking start menu problem!!!!! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=295816
GGGRRRRRR!!!!!!!!! Well, any suggestion might help a lot!!!

My htc tytn and problems

I bought htc and i have few problems so i hope that some one can help me.
I dunno how to connect my htc and pc with usb, how to send files from one cell phone to htc and how to find memory card (micro sd)
So i hope that some one can help me

Armada1987 said:
I bought htc and i have few problems so i hope that some one can help me.
I dunno how to connect my htc and pc with usb, how to send files from one cell phone to htc and how to find memory card (micro sd)
So i hope that some one can help me
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Welcome to XDA-Dev
One step at a time with this one I think.
First, can we assume you have a USB lead/cable?
If you have and you have connected it between your phone and PC - what happens?
Mike

Did you get a manual with it as all this is covered in there. It REALLY helps to, at least, glance at the sections you're having problems with...
For memory card though, how big is it? If its bigger than 2Gb and, I'll assume you're running wm06, You need to either have upgraded to wm06 (as some versions weren't sdhc compatable) or flashed a cooked rom. Otherwise install this - http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=58063&d=1194986892
It also helps things if you format the sd card fat32 before doing anything else as it makes life easier later.
To send files use bluetooth... Read on how to start it and pair with a device in your manual.
Cheers...

Firstly welcome to xda developers
try installing active sync, if you are using windows XP or Windows mobile device center if using vista then you can connect the phone to the pc via usb & or bluetooth
go here for either version
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/en-us/help/synchronize/device-synch.mspx
finding a memory card isnt that difficult, to send files to the htc from another phone just bluetooth it over , but you need to switch bluetooth on first, obviously.
By the sounds of things ultramags69's advice is the best ,at least read the user manual before asking easy to find answers.
I would also try to explain in greater detail exactly what you are trying to do , then maybe you will get more precise instructions