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Hello,
I was wondering if anyone else is having the same problems.
When I go to bed I turn the PDA off. The phone is still on.
When I wake about 7 hours later I find the battery is at 60%.
What's the deal? I thought it was supposed to have 150 hour standby life.
I do find something else quite weird. When I turn the PDA off the screen turns off and it all seems fine. I have the button lock turned on so no other buttons will work. After a couple of minutes, if I move the volume slider up or down the PDA will beep. Then if I press any of the buttons such as "Record" "Camera" and "Calander" Nothign seems to happen.
But when I turn the PDA on the "Recoard" "Camera" and "Calander" applications will load.
It is kinda of like it isn't turning off the PDA at all.
Anyone know what I'm doing wrong or how to fix it?
Thanks
Cam
if grps is only and bluetooth is on and maybe messenger and or icq is on it drain the batt
GPRS and Bluetooth are both on but GPRS is not connected. And Bluetooth is not connecting to anything.
I don't use messanger.
Would that still be draining the battery that much?
Cam
Cyeoh,
Unfortunately, I know exactly what you are going through. Your phone is entering a mode called 'resuming', it’s a low power state that does not turn on the display, etc, but will respond to hardkeys, volume slider, etc......
I'm guessing your XDA2 goes into 'resume' while trying to find a GSM signal, (are you in a weak area). This is my problem, you can read about it here...
http://www.pocketpcpassion.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=38598
As a test, you should turn off the phone, (flight mode) for one night and compare the battery in the morning, (I'm willing to bet is almost the same as when you left it). Alternately install an app that monitors cpu usage, (like the one in the above link), and you probably will see a similar pattern to mine.
The registry solution does help, but causes problems with Bluetooth, (at least it did on my device, nothing a soft reset didn’t fix, but it was VERY annoying)….
If it is your GSM phone, you might want to try using another GSM SIM card from another provider, (maybe a friends) and see if you get better results. When I switched to a better provider I got an increase of 10% on the battery, (not great but something!)
Thank You very much.
That does answer a lot. I do have very bad reception at home. I guess this may mean I need to leave it charging over night. However I do find the XDA does charge very quickly which mean in the time it takes me to get ready for work it is back up to 93%.
I will put it into Flight mode tonight to see what happens.
It's still a little bit ****ty and it seems to be because of software. Hopefully they will fix it in the next ROM update.
Thanks
Cam
How did you go with your test last night cyeoh, did your battery last a little longer?
I'm intrested to know as when I charge my battery over night in the morning its still is not on 100% untill I do a soft reset or disable and enable flight mode then it pops up to 100% and stops charging... yet a nother feature of some software I've installed or the ROM version at the moment!!!
Hi everyone,
I have having a terrible battery performance for my mini. It seems that just after 2 hours, the battery level drops from 100% to about 80% :shock: . Any idea why? :?
Does anyone else have this problem?
Thanks!
Try to look in Start/Settings/System/Memory ---running programs...you may have some programs running and consuming battery. If U have Pocket hack master it drawn the battery very fast if overclocked and installed!
Regards,
Primoz
Hi Primoz
Thanks for the info. But on my previous device XDA IIs, even with the applications running, the battery life was still ok.
Sigh... perhaps my batt is a lemon... so far it has only lasted 1 day with a full charge!!! :shock:
Hmmm...strange, if the I-mate is new try to replace the battery...cause for me the battery life is about 2 days...in average. If not used much 3-4 days.
Regards,
Primoz
Hmm, perhaps an investigation is in order :?: :
Did you leave your beam receive on?
Are you using bluetooth?
What programs are running, especially today screen plugins?
Hi,
nope, bluetooth is off, IR is off however, I left the SD Card in the slot all the time.
I have also made sure there are no today screen plugins and also programs running in the background.
I just checked.... 1 hour, the battery level drops by 6 % :shock:
This is terrible. I am using XDA II mini... don't seem to see this problem with i-Mates and others though...
anyone with XDA II mini care to comment?
Perhaps it's because your battery is still new. On average, batteries have full capacity and stamina after 10-20 cycles of full charge-full discharge.
Make sure:
Backlight is on low setting.
Bluetooth is off.
Infrared is off.
Power off after x minutes.
Backlight off after x minutes.
I have only had my XDA Mini for 8 days now and my battery life is much better than that.
The phone and PIM gets a good going over during a business day and then a couple hours of WiFi in the evening when i get home and i have never had the battery drop below 30%.
My XDA II used to be flat by the end of the day.
The difference is now that i charge the unit for 7 hours during the evenings as opposed to the XDA II sitting in the craddle during the day.
I have finally given up on charging and recharging the battery. I just sent my mini for servicing yesterday. Apparently, the service folks also think that the poor performance of the batt is due to a faulty power regulator.
Anyways, I was quite disappointed that I got a lemon. They promised me my device back by Friday or Sat.
Will update again on the batt performance once I get it back.... :?
Hello!
I have the same problem and if you know where the problem came from i would be very interesting , to know if i have to send it to repair too or if there is another solution!
Thanks
how do you turn IR off?
To turn of IR....
Start>Settings>Connections>Beam
Uncheck the box which says receive all incoming beams.
Ujj
ujj75 said:
To turn of IR....
Start>Settings>Connections>Beam
Uncheck the box which says receive all incoming beams.
Ujj
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Hmm...strange, because I have read somewhere (don`t remember where) thah if the Receiving beam box is checked it "helps" the battery to last longer... :?
Regards,
Primoz
I just got back my set from the O2 repair center in Singapore. The service tech said that there wasn't any problem and the battery drain is at an ACCEPTABLE rate!
I am still getting the poor battery performance. I can only last 10 hrs max without USING my PDA. I did not even use the PDA function extensively ( at most 20 mins) and did not even use the phone.... yes, all the applications were stopped and even disabled the IR.
I escalated this issue to O2 and they told me that they will check with the tech about the set....
This is terrible!!!! :x .....
Anyone else with this problem? I suspect that this is an hardware / battery issue.
Sigh... hope that O2 can do something about!
to mod: sorry about making noise about this.... but I had to let it out of my chest!
Anyone else with this issue....???
Ian
ianlo said:
II can only last 10 hrs max without USING my PDA.
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Maybe try the backup and hardreset route? Must be something in your settings that's draining the battery.
If I can tell my experience...I never mind if battery is full of charge or it is down...'couse whenever I can, I always connect my S100 to USB for recharging...
Uhm...Do I wrong?
I guess for my type of usage, it is unacceptable to always plug it into the charger.
This is because I am on the move most of the time and once I leave my office in the morning, I would not return home till sometime at night. Need the set to last at least 24 hours!
Sigh... anyone has ideas for a workaround?
I've been looking for an additional battery... where to get one?
Is this particular to O2 sets? Cos I have not been seeing compliants with other vendors iMate, T-Mobile etc..
I have the same problem and have try all software solution(differents roms)!!I will send it to repair and hope i will be more lucky than you.
Wish you all the best too! If you do get it fixed, please let me know so that I can do something about it rather than having to deal with O2!
I am getting quite impatient with them for giving me the runaround!
Hi,
I have just got Blackberry set up on my XDAII (1.72 ROM) via O2 and all seems good with the world. Until the battery runs out while you watch.....
I have tried all the normal tricks to save power - switch the screen off quickly, dim the screen etc, but to not avail.
Is this normal? Is there a fault with my battery? How can I fix it?
Help!
Jon
p.s. Don't get me on the wisdom of a system that loses important data when the battery goes flat....
I have it on my XDA 2 also. Using TMo in the USA as service provider. No real issues with Battery as best I can tell... Can use it most of t he day for Blaclberry e-mail until battery dies...Maybe 50+ messages... mY xda 2 does seem to power right of after receiving blackberry mail, then power back on again when next message is receievd
Blackberry kills my battery (XDAII) - GPRS the culprit?
Hi,
the problem seems to be a GPRS one. The application (Blackberry or the Traffic-i traffic monitor) seems to keep retrying to connect and kill the battery that way. Anyone seen this before?
How long should the battery last anyway. I looks like it can make 24 hours tops with this settup.
Jon
Re: Blackberry kills my battery (XDAII) - GPRS the culprit?
jftilbury said:
Hi,
the problem seems to be a GPRS one. The application (Blackberry or the Traffic-i traffic monitor) seems to keep retrying to connect and kill the battery that way. Anyone seen this before?
How long should the battery last anyway. I looks like it can make 24 hours tops with this settup.
Jon
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It sounds like your Blackberry connection is failing to connect? Can you confirm that you receive emails via bb ok? If your account isn't setup properly by your network provider then the bb software on the device will continually try to connect, and that will be a major battery drain.
Or maybe some other app is conflicting with bb? Not sure what you mean by "Traffic-i traffic monitor". You say the bb app keeps retrying to connect. But it should stay connected all the time if setup right.
JD
Battery problems (1.72 to blame?)
Blackberry works fine *most* of the time. It gets and sends email and is responsive and prompt.
Traffic-i is an application that connect via GPRS to a server to download traffic problems which are displayed on a map. I do not run it at the same time as BB.
The problem seems to be that the battery life is not linear. I seems to be going along fine then next time you look it is totally flat with the backup flat as well.
Just once I saw it get into a state when it couldn't connect to GPRS due to a poor signal. The screen kept flicking on all the time then off, then on. Because the XDA was busy it wouldn't switch the screen off leading to a flat bettery.
I am not sure if this is causing the battery problems but it seems like a prime contender. It seems to have happened since I installed 1.72 of the ROM - no problems before that. Has the behaviour of GPRS re-trys changed in 1.72 ?
All help greatefully accepted. I have to go now re-install my applications. Again.
Jon
Hi Jon
I use my XDA 2 pretty heavily on Blackberry and voice. My experience is that the attery really only lasts a little less than a day without a recharge, but I have not experienced the kind of problem you have. The fact that its killing the back up battery, seems to indicate something more that the Blackberry app as the problem. My device pretty much shuts off apps at 10% battery left, so that phone etc will not work until recharge. Saves losing info etc. You might want to try reinstalling the ROM 1.72.181 and see if that fixes it..
Hope that helps
Chris
I have had my 8525 for over a month (an upgrade from a one year old 8125), but have recently been noticing a different problem than described on this or other PDA forums. If I am sitting around with the device and actively browsing and streaming content I have noticed the device will get pretty warm to the touch and then some problems start occuring....I loose the ability to use the touchscreen (can only use the buttons)...and....the 'select' button will start acting like the right softkey button. If I soft reset the device it does not fix the problems, but if I turn the device off and let it sit for a while and then reboot (after it has cooled off) everything works fine. Hardware problem? Anyone else experienced any of these problems? Thanks!
From what I've read here, perhaps you are seeing the "screen calibration bug" which is a heat related bug and there are threads about it.
I've watched two movies back to back (about 3 hours) on my 8525 with TCPMP, screen brightness set low, and it didn't get very warm at all.
Maybe G3 use when browsing with bright screen creates more heat? In any case I'd consider it defective.
Yep, I'd agree. Actually I have seen this problem posted before. You have an extreme example of the "heat expansion causing screen problems" issue. You can try loosening the screws on rear of screen, but honestly if it's in warranty get it replaced.
Try a hard reset (don't think it will change anything) and if it's still the same then it's certainly a hardware prob.
Mike
Thanks for the advice. I have noticed that I can use the device as a gps navigator with the screen 'on' for several hours and don't have the overheating problem or any problem with the screen, just when browsing and streaming via PIE using 3G. I will contact warranty exchange and try another unit.
Hi folks,
Am tearing my hair out with an overheating 8525. The icon shows the phone is charged up but about 2 hours later it is warning me to recharge or lose my data. During the 2 hours I have not used the phone at all. Any ideas? Another lemon phone, or is there something working in the background that keeps it "on" all the time? Other than this issue, it seems to be a pretty decent phone...
my previous device (imate k-jam/htc wizard/ same as 8125) and current hermes (jasjam) get pretty warm when browsing for a while or streaming as well as wi-fi, but i get no problems, so i'd say its a hardware problem too.
The first time my k-jam got hot it scared me and i thought the device was gonna fry. But i stream a lot with 3g on my jasjam and it gets pretty hot for a phone but nothings happened yet, and i let my k-jam get pretty hot all the time and it never malfunctioned from that.
tanguera said:
Hi folks,
Am tearing my hair out with an overheating 8525. The icon shows the phone is charged up but about 2 hours later it is warning me to recharge or lose my data. During the 2 hours I have not used the phone at all. Any ideas? Another lemon phone, or is there something working in the background that keeps it "on" all the time? Other than this issue, it seems to be a pretty decent phone...
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You can check for any running programmes under memory in Settings. You should disconnect wifi when not connected - this causes battery drain and heat build up. You should also use a task manager to shut all programmes not actively being used (just tapping X does not close them. You should also check that messaging is not set to look for mail every few minutes and probably should do the "fake server trick" if you don't use push mail. Battery certainly should not flatten in two hours.
Mike
mikechannon said:
You can check for any running programmes under memory in Settings. You should disconnect wifi when not connected - this causes battery drain and heat build up. You should also use a task manager to shut all programmes not actively being used (just tapping X does not close them. You should also check that messaging is not set to look for mail every few minutes and probably should do the "fake server trick" if you don't use push mail. Battery certainly should not flatten in two hours.
Mike
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Checked settings and it had IE and several other programs running. I've unchecked them, don't have it set to receive email on the device. I'm keeping my fingers crossed. Thanks. This came at the worst time since I'm going out of town - will check back in a couple of days - unless I've tossed it out of the plane....
tanguera said:
Checked settings and it had IE and several other programs running. I've unchecked them, don't have it set to receive email on the device. I'm keeping my fingers crossed. Thanks. This came at the worst time since I'm going out of town - will check back in a couple of days - unless I've tossed it out of the plane....
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That may help a bit, but I think a task manager is an essential to save you looking in running programmes all the time. Something like the freeware "Magic Button" shows in the task bar all running programmes and allows you to close them down fully istead of the default which is just to minimise them. Link below. I'm still concerned that if it's heating up it is more than just a running programme though - normally it's wifi or other radio function that causes this.
http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=7438
Mike
i would like to add to this... i recently had a similiar problem happen on my 8525.. my phone was sleeping but very very warm to the touch... so i turn it on, opened my task manager and noticed nothing was running, but my battery was dropping about 20% per hour... i performed a soft reset and the problem went away.. i dont know what caused it, but a soft reset fixed it.. and even though it was hot my screen was still responsive, but something was causing some serious battery drain. and i cant report accurate temp stats cause ikarus battery status today plugin seems to report temp backwards.. for example, when i wake my phone its sitting at 115F per battery status, but when the battery was real hot the other day it was reporting 90F. so its obviously backwards on reporting, but it does show a 25F difference...
shogunmark said:
i would like to add to this... i recently had a similiar problem happen on my 8525.. my phone was sleeping but very very warm to the touch... so i turn it on, opened my task manager and noticed nothing was running, but my battery was dropping about 20% per hour... i performed a soft reset and the problem went away.. i dont know what caused it, but a soft reset fixed it.. and even though it was hot my screen was still responsive, but something was causing some serious battery drain. and i cant report accurate temp stats cause ikarus battery status today plugin seems to report temp backwards.. for example, when i wake my phone its sitting at 115F per battery status, but when the battery was real hot the other day it was reporting 90F. so its obviously backwards on reporting, but it does show a 25F difference...
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Yes, I think I've had that a couple of times. I have always just assumed that I'd left wifi on but not connected to any network - cos that doesn't half drain the battery (although curiously not every time - sometimes it seems quite ok left on, not connected and without getting hot). Perhaps it only gets hot if it's had a sniff at a network but fails to connect but keeps trying continuously.
This though would just be a very occasional thing, something more regular giving only 2 hours battery life is a bit puzzling.
Mike
mikechannon said:
Yes, I think I've had that a couple of times. I have always just assumed that I'd left wifi on but not connected to any network - cos that doesn't half drain the battery (although curiously not every time - sometimes it seems quite ok left on, not connected and without getting hot). Perhaps it only gets hot if it's had a sniff at a network but fails to connect but keeps trying continuously.
This though would just be a very occasional thing, something more regular giving only 2 hours battery life is a bit puzzling.
Mike
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well with wifi yes, i had that with the wizard to (left it connected all night while plugged into my charger, needless to say it wasnt responsive when i woke up). But with my 8525 it was just idle, no wifi, connected on 3G but not passing data.. very weird situation to just drain like that..
I would recommend you try a different memory card. I had the same problem but found out it was a microSD card, the phone would get hot and battery would start dropping drastically - I changed to another memory card and the problem went away.
-mix
Any idea what's going on here?
mixmaven said:
- I changed to another memory card and the problem went away.
-mix
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What's going on here? This sounds just plain weird. Care to share the manufacturer?
teambnet said:
What's going on here? This sounds just plain weird. Care to share the manufacturer?
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Don't know what mixmaven will say, but I suppose it's possible that quality of manufacture or poor contacts could cause the device to consume excess power trying to establish network connections or simply loop itself trying to register the card.
Mike
shogunmark said:
i would like to add to this... i recently had a similiar problem happen on my 8525.. my phone was sleeping but very very warm to the touch... so i turn it on, opened my task manager and noticed nothing was running, but my battery was dropping about 20% per hour... i performed a soft reset and the problem went away.. i dont know what caused it, but a soft reset fixed it.. and even though it was hot my screen was still responsive, but something was causing some serious battery drain. and i cant report accurate temp stats cause ikarus battery status today plugin seems to report temp backwards.. for example, when i wake my phone its sitting at 115F per battery status, but when the battery was real hot the other day it was reporting 90F. so its obviously backwards on reporting, but it does show a 25F difference...
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Well, my phone is no longer a phone, just an expensive paperweight. It was completely useless in Miami, and I could get maybe ONE call in before it would shut off from battery drain. I had NO programs running in the background, but I could see the battery charge plummeting before my eyes. Now it no longer holds a charge at all. Maybe 10 or 15 minutes, max. I'll try a soft reset like you did, but I'm not holding my breath. Battery also continues to run incredibly hot to the touch, even when "sleeping". In addition, I'm now also having ActivSync problems.... What a lemon.
Forgot to mention that it takes forever to find the network. I can't tell if I have a software, hardware, or network problem.
Sorry, just catching up - I've been out of town and obviously incommunicado...
I don't think this has anything to do with either the wifi or the memory card as it drains and heats with both the card and wifi in/on and out/off. Someone had suggested I check the running programs and only once did I see IE running. The only other program that seems to run even when it's not connected to the PC is the ActivSync.
I've done a warm reset, so I'll report any progress. Unless I throw it out the window first. I may just take it back and ask for a whole new kit....
could be a bad battery also... or a defective phone, i would maybe try the battery first, if that doesnt work then i would warranty the phone! But this has only happened to me only like twice or so, and in every case a soft reset fixed it...
Well, I've reset the thing and left it fully charged and unplugged since my last post. Still holding the charge and remains cool to the touch. Of course, I haven't used it at all, so the drive test still remains....
Hi,
i have noticed that my phone is very warm when i make a phone call with it, yesterday i had a long phone call, about 1 hour and the phone crashed during the call (no blinking led, no reaction from the display, nothing). First i thought the battery was low, i pluged the battery charger in the phone but nothing happens, no blinking LED, no reaction from the phone. I took out the battery and pluged it again in but notting happend. After 30 Minutes i tryed to turn the phone on again and it worked.
So i think this was a heat problem.
I have the Firmware from Tom installed and the Radio Version RUU Nike Radio 1.58.16.27.
Has got any one noticed the same problems ?? I hope this is not a hardware bug.
well phone gets warm from time to time - but nothing one should worry about. do you use 3g ?
also i use the latest modded kaiser radio from netrunner and personally feel battery life is much better and also signal.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=369502
phone crash may have various reason of which the most are software related.
as from your description it appears like it was a heat problem but again - i never heard that before ....
no i dont use 3g at the moment, 3g was turned off.....
i hope this happens not again, i only had this one time yet. we will see on the next phone call that takes longer what is happening.....
mine gets very warm at the bottom too. It is normal I think.
I have a constant connection to the net via gprs now as when i have a constant 3g/hsdpa connection the phone is hot. The phone is also hot when charging. Maybe they will add some tweaks to improve the batterylife and temp like powerstepping or something to reduce the power used when its not needed and also lower the temp.
Hmm... This seems important. I find that leaving it constantly on, and for example, chatting via some type of IM app really makes it warm. I'm going to use my extended battery tomorrow, and see how it lasts. Wish me luck!
I have a problem with Niki heating up, but it heats up heavily when charging; using acbPowerMeter i read 700mA .. when in standby it says ~45mA. With a Tytn i didn't noticed a heating problem when charging.
Did you ever read the current when you noticed the heating ?
sackbauer said:
well phone gets warm from time to time - but nothing one should worry about. do you use 3g ?
also i use the latest modded kaiser radio from netrunner and personally feel battery life is much better and also signal.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=369502
phone crash may have various reason of which the most are software related.
as from your description it appears like it was a heat problem but again - i never heard that before ....
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THANKS FOR THAT ADVICE!!! running the modded kaiser rom and its ultra low battery consumption!!!