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Battery life on XDAIIi

Hi All - Did a search but couldn't find much about any 'battery life' problems with this device.
I'm experiencing poor battery life on my new XDA IIi. This is my second machine (o2 replaced the forst one due to poor battery lifery life and dead pixels on screen)
I just wondered what others are experiencing...I tend to have the phone switched from 8am til 6pm. The signal strength is good and I have wifi and bluetooth turned off.
Here is a typical set of figures for the battery through the course of my typical day
8am 100%
9am 84%
10am 75%
11am 61%
12am 50%
1pm 41%
2pm 32%
3pm 19%
4pm 11%
5pm 6%
6pm 3%
O2 say that the battery is at fault...but they've changed the battery twice and the unit once, and it's much the same. My guess is that something is draining the battery, but there's nothing special about my set up as far as I know. it's running a 1 gig SD card...but I took that out to see if it made a difference - it doesn't
Even with the phone switched OFF for extended periods of time, the battery doesn't seem to survive the day - I certainly cannot get to 8pm in the evening without having to charge it up.
I just wonder if the behaviour is fairly normal! If someone else out there is able to offer me some advice, or better still, some comparable figures, that would be helpful - just so I know it's not just me!!! ))
Alternatively has any one got any suggestiosn as to what might be draining the battery? (I'm always in a strong signal area for the phone)
Thanks

Hi I also have an XDAIIi.
My battery seems to be a lot more stronger than yours :?
If I don't use my XDAIIi at all, it can last about 4 days on standby, by this I mean phone on, wi-fi and bluetooth off. I have installed a LOT of applications on it and nothing seems to drain the battery.
My backlight is on full, my SD Card is always in.
If I use the phone say for about 30 minutes every night, then it lasts for about 3 days, still as the set-up above.
I find that if I am constantly using it, it will last about a day.
I am probably being pedantic, but as you probably know, rechagable batteries, in particular Li-Ion. Then they benefit from being run-down completely and leaving dis-charged for about 12 hours, then trying to turn them on again, (i.e. soft re-set) and then leaving them to turn off (almost instantly) Then whilst the XDAIIi is in it's "dead state" put it on charge using the mains charger and leaving it charging for about 3-4 hours. Then take it off charge and turn it on again.
Batteries don't like being half charged then run down a little then charger again.
Also the complete run-down time of a battery will only reach it's fullest after a couple of run-down and full re-charges.
This is what I do.
Hope it helps.
lydiachris
ps. the strenth of your signal should not make any difference. I am also in a strong signal area.

Battery...
Wow! Yours seems much better than mine with batteries. I just can't figure out what's wrong here and its very frsustrating - new battery..new XDA2i seems to make no difference, so it MUST be something I'm running...but there's nothing running in the background at all...very strange
Thanks anyway..at least I know it IS possible to get better battery life
S

Just out of interest, what mAh is your battery which came with your XDAIIi.
Mine is the standard 1300mAh
Lydiachris
ps. write me a list of what software you are running.
pps. Kettering??? Very near me Peterborough!!!

Battery woes...
MIne came with a 1300...but I bought a spare via the O2 shop that came with a 1200 :?:
I've got hundreds of progs on the XDA. Do you mean a list of ones that are running on startup?
Thanks
PS USed to live in Werrington!

do you have bluetooth or wifi or both turned on all day ?
is the pda on all the time or off and only the phone on ?
is gprs turned on all day ?
IR is it set to recieve all incomming beams?
how long before the backlight turn itself off ?
how bright is the backlight set to be ?
many many factors

Battery troubles
do you have bluetooth or wifi or both turned on all day ?
Both OFF
is the pda on all the time or off and only the phone on ?
Phone scheduled to be ON between 9 and 7pm
is gprs turned on all day ?
..Nope
IR is it set to recieve all incomming beams?
..Nope it's Off
how long before the backlight turn itself off ?
..1 minute
how bright is the backlight set to be ?
..about as low as it can go :lol:
As you can see, I've switched OFF most things to get drainage down to a minimum. As this is my SECOND device (o2 replaced the first one - same problem) and I'm trying out a second battery...my deduction is that it *MUST* be software related. I may be wrong and I'm hoping someone can point me in a different/new direction
I had a lot of hair when I bough this device - now I've very little left :wink:

Make sure lock all buttons is engaged, second set turn lcd off after 30 sec, third turn off device after 1 minute and you should be dialed in. If this does not work, preform a hard reset then repeat process. Do not install any additional apps/progs! Now if it works try installing one proggy at a time and test the device. It is most likley that there is a program running a daemon that is killing your XDA-IIi
Mikee

One more note. If you do a hard reset, which if I where you, I would, pay attention to the setup screen on the hard reset. When you see the O2 personal user corporate user screen, preform a soft reset with your stylus immediately! Then you will not get the O2 garbage and Icons.
Mikee

battery power
hi
just got a xda2i and my battery doesent last long also my car phone charger wont charge it up quickly enough when its being used i took loads of stuff of but no difference.
regards kevin

Thanks Mikee
Hi Mikee
Thanks for your advice. I'm a little uinlcelar how a hard reset will help. This is NEW machine, I only got it last week. How does a HARD reset help the bettery management?
Make sure lock all buttons is engaged,
Done
second set turn lcd off after 30 sec,
Done
third turn off device after 1 minute
Already switches off after a minute
and you should be dialed in.
ehhh?
not sure what you mean

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stevep said:
Hi Mikee
Thanks for your advice. I'm a little uinlcelar how a hard reset will help. This is NEW machine, I only got it last week. How does a HARD reset help the bettery management?
Make sure lock all buttons is engaged,
Done
second set turn lcd off after 30 sec,
Done
third turn off device after 1 minute
Already switches off after a minute
and you should be dialed in.
ehhh?
not sure what you mean
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There is a fault with your device - under Consumer Service Guarentee you can return and have it replaced immediately as these goods are definetly NOT fit for purpose.
Mind you, you should hard-reset and double-check, but I'd say you've got a lemon flavour there.
Tkae heart, if you're the only one then it should be easy to fix!

My XDA ws the same when i first got it ... i'd deffo agree that the battery needs to be "optimised"
after a week or so you should notice a difference.
Heavy use of mine, ie listening to ,mp3s all day will take it down to about 15% (9 till 4 ish)
I have WIFI , bluetooth off
screen to the lowest brightness
power off after 30 seconds
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I just thought ..... You dont have the "Turbo mode" on do you ?

Battery on XDAIIi
Hi Guys - Thanks for your advice. What I find hard to believe is that this is the SECOND device where the battery life is c***. All my instincts tell me it's NOT the device - this is the second one they've sent me - nor the battery (as I'm now on my THIRD one)
I really want to avoid a hard reset because of the time taken to reinstal everything afterwards. I lead a very busy business life :? , and I just don't have the time to 'start from scratch'
...but I guess I will, if enough people tell me a hard reset will sort it :wink:

i did a hard reset but it didnt make a difference and when i spoke to 02 they were very quick to exchange it and when i spoke to the guy he said i should expect it to crash every so often like windows does on a computer i disagreed with this abd explained my xda2sw didnt crash like this one did.
regards kevin

stevep, in that case why don't u just make a complete backup of ur IIi, then perform a hard reset..
Sometimes the apps installed are the cause.. Also take note that switching to 'Turbo Mode' all the time will drain the batt pretty fast..

Battery drain - hard reset
Thanks for your reply - it's appreciated...but I don't understand how a hard reset helps. Yes, I can back it all and restore it, but surely that'll just put the problem back on the XDA (if it's an app thats causing the drain) :wink:
Can anyone explain (from a techy point of view) how a hard reset MIGHT corrrect the battery drain problem :shock:

Have you checked your turbo button under start, settings, power and then the processor speed? if you set it on turbo, it will eat up the battery VERY FAST. If else, I am using one and I am Happy with the battery life.

I've actually tested it with turbo 'on' and 'off' and I didn't notice much difference either way. It's actually on 'standard' currently

stevep said:
I've actually tested it with turbo 'on' and 'off' and I didn't notice much difference either way. It's actually on 'standard' currently
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backlight - min??
turn off the backlight after 30sec??
button lock except power button??

XDA2i battery life

what sorta battery life do you guys get? Mine's about 3-4 hours (less if i use BT and WLAN!)
admitedly i didnt leave it charging for the full 18 odd hours 1st time round, so i bought another battery (needed a spare anyway) and made sure it was charged up 100% correctly...
its giving me exactly the same battlife!
obviously turning it off/standby itll last ages, but its crap when using the PDA!
am i doing something wrong?

join the club (no pun intended)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=22468
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=23865
3-4 hours is especially bad though.. mine will last a day or maybe a day and a half depending on use, but no where near as good as my old xda II

i got 2 hours out of it yesterday night...
i turned on bluetooth and wifi, and watched it die (just left it on the desk n pressed the screen every now and then)
now surely 2 hours cant be right? i'm having to leave it plugged into the pc all day at work AND carry a spare battery!

Mine seems just OK. I took it off the charger last night at around 10pm and by 5.30 this afternoon the battery was down to 59%. That's with several calls made -no wifi - about 30 mins GPRS browsing - but BT was on all the time.
I'm switching BT off until I need it, and seeing if that makes any difference.
Kevin

jim galbally said:
i got 2 hours out of it yesterday night...
i turned on bluetooth and wifi, and watched it die (just left it on the desk n pressed the screen every now and then)
now surely 2 hours cant be right? i'm having to leave it plugged into the pc all day at work AND carry a spare battery!
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Wifi will suck the life out of it, Jim. Have you been through all the usual suspects like beaming etc?
Kevin

wow jim thats really bad.. have you tried discharching it completely, then leaving it on the charger for about 12 hours, and doing that a couple of times? sometimes that improves battery life.
i think i might try the worst case scenario you did and see how long mine lasts
kevin.. that sounds half decent.. especially with BT on the whole time. sounds like you're one of the lucky ones

Battery
I am the sort to cover all bases so please do not get me wrong.
Bro have you configured your Xda IIi backlight and power to go on standby mode yet?

jim galbally said:
i got 2 hours out of it yesterday night...
i turned on bluetooth and wifi, and watched it die (just left it on the desk n pressed the screen every now and then)
now surely 2 hours cant be right? i'm having to leave it plugged into the pc all day at work AND carry a spare battery!
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tried it with mine, had bluetooth on (not connected to anything tho), wifi on (not connected to anything, but it was finding wireless networks every 10 secs or so and kept popping up that do you want to connect bubble), recieve incoming beams was ticked, gprs was connected and it was getting used a couple times each hour to sync my email, and i probably received about 4 phone calls and made one or two. my cpu was set to standard (not turbo)
mine lasted for 4 hours at this rate, so a fair bit better than yours.. unless you were actually using bluetooth and/or wireless

its now as low as hours!!!!
even with every power saving thing on possible, i can only push it to 3!!!!
o2 will swap my phone over, will do this on monday/tuesday (just gonna pop into shop) but it means getting the new one unlocked again... grr

wow thats pretty horrible. good luck with the next one

just upgraded to the imate rom (which is always clever before taking somthing back to the shop )
its now giving me 4 hours instead of 2... so it's gone up

i dont think my himalaya last much longer unless i let it go into standby
and lower the brigthness when using batt

4 hrs is not normal either, usually my 2i can last for 8 hrs (not counting stand by of course). yesterday it suddently ran out of battery within 5 hrs and really had me worried for a while. Than I found out it was because I adjusted the backlight brightness to very high. It seems the LCD backlight has a major effort of consuming battery power.
Tricks summed up from other topics:
* Darken your On Barrery backlight brightness (Start-Settings-System-Backlight-Brightness)
* Shorten your On battery backlight remain time (Start-Settings-System-Backlight-Battery Power)
* Set your CPU mode to standard (Start-Settings-System-Power-Processor)
* Close incoming beam monitoring (Start-Settings-Connections-Beam)
* Try you best not to connect any network (Bluetooth, GPRS, WLAN...) :?
* Put less item on your today screen
* Some software has update or refresh service running on background, try to increase their interval:
[list:8501145cfd]- OmegaOne BatteryPack has a default setting of 30 sec update interval, and a network activity monitor. All can be disabled in today item's options.
- Marsware WeatherPanel has a default setting of 30 min update interval
- All alike stuff you can think of ...
* Applications remain in memory when you click "X", shut them down if not using anymore. (Start-Setting-System-Memory-Running Programs)
- Some apps have convenience tool to do this, such as OmegaOne BatteryPack, or O2Plus.
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There is a fix due next week, i currently have the beta firmware installed and its increased my battery life by 3 fold.
Wait for the next firmware and all will be sorted

yes!
i hope imate upgrades too

Noodleman said:
There is a fix due next week, i currently have the beta firmware installed and its increased my battery life by 3 fold.
Wait for the next firmware and all will be sorted
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Whereabouts are you, Noodleman? O2 Asia (where I am) is renowned for being the last with things.

rom upgrade! where?!
where can I find a rom update for my XDA?! it doesn't have a specific carrier.... I bought it with english software.

I do not find battery with a better autonomy for the 2020i! Does it exist?
like 1800 mAh or 2000 mAh !!!

Up ...
No idea ??? :?

kevinnugent said:
Noodleman said:
There is a fix due next week, i currently have the beta firmware installed and its increased my battery life by 3 fold.
Wait for the next firmware and all will be sorted
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Whereabouts are you, Noodleman? O2 Asia (where I am) is renowned for being the last with things.
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I believe this is O2 Europe - if it's the same beta I'm using.
Works well too.

Short battery life on HTC, is this what you are seeing?

I've read a few posts on HTC Wizard battery life and I'm trying to quantify what I'm seeing (which is hard given varying conditions under which the device can be used and what features are active but I'll attempt that here). I'd really like to hear what other pepole are experiencing under similar conditoins.
I’m getting about two days worth of battery life before the unit is warning that the device needs to be recharged. Here’s what I’ve done with it over the past 2 days:
· 47 minutes time spent using the phone. I get the full 4 signal bars just about everywhere I go, including and the office and at home. I have not used the speakerphone at all.
· About 1 hour of PDA use
· Bluetooth and WiFi have been off. There was no GPRS use during this time.
· The screen brightness is set to the lowest level possible, one setting above the backlight being completely off.
· When on battery power, the backlight automatically shuts itself off after 30 seconds and the device turns itself off completely after one minute.
· I’m running Windows Mobile 5.0
The battery currently reads 18% after 2 days.
Is this in line with what other people are seeing?

I used to drain my wizard to about 50-60% in one day (from morning to evening), when I still let it go to standby, so that seems about right. It goes down a bit faster now because I always leave it on (just let the backlight go off of course) so agile messenger will stay online...
I'm pretty sure this battery life is pretty good for a pda phone though, you can't compare this to a regular phone.
I always connect it to the charger at night so it's no problem for me, and I bring a very small usb cable (like 15 cm) when I don't sleep at home. Usually there's an opportunity to connect the wizard to a computer somewhere so it'll charge, the computer doesn't need to recognize the wizard for that.

I need to charge my Wizard evry night, if it's friday with party etc alot of calls i need to have my samsung d600 with me becuase the qtek goes empty around 23.oo :/

Just done a typical "intensive" day, and I'm really pleased of that thing. Here's what I've done:
~50 min on the phone
~2h30 MP3 playing with TCPMP, LCD off of course
~30min e-mail and internet through wireless
obviously a bit more PDA use, cause uptime meter says 4h39 :wink:
I still have 54% battery at the moment.
Useful to mention, forgot to turn off wireless after browsing, so it stayed on for like 1hr with device off, and that still drains juice.
Backlight is set at the middle.
Once again, my BA would be dead by now. I had ~4h PDA use at standard clock settings, 2hr with wireless on. The Wizard just doubles both these figures. I definitely understand why they've dropped that guzzling XScale... wish there could be an optimised version of TCPMP soon though, video playback is the only thing where i see a real difference in speed, haven't managed to have a video playing smooth without hangups yet.
Skype doesn't run well, but it didn't either with the BA without overclocking it at the maximum it would hold, giving a stunning 1h30 battery life (with wireless on obviously). The device was really hot while doing this, and the standard charger would not give enough current even to power the device, battery was still going down when connected. Had to use a 2A Axim adapter to charge while skyping :shock:
So definitively a GREAT improvement.

I used my MDA Vario the other day and it went down to 18% in approx 4 1/2 hours.
Screen was at max brightness and on for the whole time,
Tom Tom running.
Bluetooth on
About what I'd expect. I don't think my Treo 650 would be much better in similar circumstances.

I just updated the other thread about the battery that up till now its been fine but two days ago the dreaded issue started with me too
I've just lost 20% in 3 hours without doing anything (its been off since)

AKU2 rom gives a definite improvement, I can have 85% left after a day of normal use.

meschle said:
AKU2 rom gives a definite improvement, I can have 85% left after a day of normal use.
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Which AKU2 rom. T mobile hasn't released one for my phone yet, to my knowledge.

The qtek rom, many vario users are using this rom out of frustration for t-mobile not releasing theirs.

meschle said:
The qtek rom, many vario users are using this rom out of frustration for t-mobile not releasing theirs.
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Thanks

Hey if you upgrade the ROM you should run some tests before installing any applications. It would be a definite advantage to make sure it's not some buggy app that's causing your battery drain.

agreed... I think that is my issue too that it could be a memory leak somewhere in one of the programs
can only put it down to registrywizard, uptime, or resco, the latter i doubt very much though

I upgraded my vario to the newest imate rom and would totally recommend doing so.. my battery life is about double what it used to be now (may have installed something dodgy that was draining it though)
Its also much faster in operation and seems to be a lot more stable too (I suffered a lot from the random reboot problem previously)

what did you upgrade from?
and what rom version are you running? the ones on the ftp for kjam are numbered a bit strange and can be confusing

The numbers are confusing for me as a noob to WM5/wizard.
What is the difference between the Qtek & the Imate roms?

kilrah said:
... Useful to mention, forgot to turn off wireless after browsing, so it stayed on for like 1hr with device off, and that still drains juice.
Backlight is set at the middle. ...
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WiFi doesn't drain battery when the device is turned off, cause the WiFi module will also be turned off automatically - just test it: leave WiFi on and press the power button - after a few hours look at the effect on the battery... :wink:
I usually recharge my Vario every 3-4 days. Although I don't use WiFi and I also don't make many long calls I usually use GPRS always on to receive my mails. I also use BT quite often to listen to music over my A2DP headset - maybe one hour per day on average...
So there must be something wrong with the devices of some of the people posting here... :!:

My wizard battery only lasts half a day now?!

Hi, my batter has been working great since Christmas, but now for some reason won't last more than a fwe hours without saying battery low. I have my gprs check email every 5 minutes, but it has always been that way and I have been gettnig a good 2 days out of my phone before.
Now i take it off of the charger in the morning and then around lunch the batter is low already...
Is my batter just toast?
Should I get another?
THANKS!
T

Just a question, but have you been overclocking your TI OMAP processor? Maybe there's a correlation?

contaygious said:
Hi, my batter has been working great since Christmas, but now for some reason won't last more than a fwe hours without saying battery low. I have my gprs check email every 5 minutes, but it has always been that way and I have been gettnig a good 2 days out of my phone before.
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Mine is brand new (tmobile MDA) and when I enabled 802.11g I noticed a dramatic drop in battery life. I think for the sake of the battery I will only enable that as needed.
I wonder also if you are in the same proximity to the mobile towers, if you are on a border between coverage you will see a drop in battery life becuase it is transmitting more frequently to register with the mobile network.
To try to see if its your battery or something you are using, and while this may be incredibly difficult with a mobile, especially a mobile/pda that you use frequently, you may want to see about turning off features to see if that helps. Turn off wifi and see if that helps, turn off bluetooth and see about that, etc. Once you rule them out as the major culprit ...
While I highly doubt this may be the case, it is a possiblity, and worth looking into, especially if you noticed a sudden drop in battery life as opposed to a gradual diminishment. You may have some rogue software that is sending out more data via a wireless device than you desire. A worm, trojan, whatever. There are anti-virus packages available, I dont know how good any of them are, http://www.freecabs.de has some, some of the big commercial guys make some. Again I dont think its that becuase of the rules of probability, however it is possible and some have been known to exist in the wild for a few years now.

T,
I had the same thing with my c500, now I know they are two entirely different phones but after I flashed the device it was as good as new in terms of battery life.
It may be worth a try before you go and buy a new battery.
Marc

I have the same problem.
Not overclocking, no anti-virus, just regular phone use and my battery does not last a day!!
I keep it on charger most of the day to avoid shut-down.

me too
I've the same problem and I've an other big problem, when I turn off my Vario, it's dont't start on power botton (i must extract and insert a battery turn on the telephone).
We can make a test if anyone have a HTC diagnostic software (see service manual.pdf)

Check your today screen.
I too had the same issue. Mainly, PhoneDashboard was causing the battery drop. Along with any today elements that poll your hardware to display the amount of battery, memory and storage. Those all drain your battery.
To check whether it's really a today screen issue or not. Charge your battery to it's full 100%, remove ALL today screen elements, then use your mobile normally and keep checking the battery level drain rate.
Hope this was useful.

Mine dies, 100% when leave work, some usage and then dead in the morning.
I only have Pocketbreeze and a few plug ins installed.
There is NO wireless /bluetooth in that time.

KINetics said:
Just a question, but have you been overclocking your TI OMAP processor? Maybe there's a correlation?
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nope.
I have not been using wifi at all lately either
I have spb today stuff but have had them since I first got my wizard. really, I have not changed anything....

some programs "eat up" battery life. Investigate by doing a HARD reset, then do not install ANY software for two days. I bet you will see your normal battery life ;-)

I took all today programs off
100% at 5.30
32% at 7.30
This is O2 Mini Rom without all the 02 crap.
I will investigate further. Hard reset here we come!!

Last night my battery was 100% at 5.30 after a hard reset, no o2 software installed and very light usage.
This morning at 7.35 it was 50% which is good I guess???
Suggestions as to whether it is the battery?

byronsp said:
Last night my battery was 100% at 5.30 after a hard reset, no o2 software installed and very light usage.
This morning at 7.35 it was 50% which is good I guess???
Suggestions as to whether it is the battery?
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Still not good enough, should hold for 3 days if you do not use it. Get a battery replacement.
Typically I charge every other day, little phone talks however.

PhoneDashboard was causing the battery drop
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Ah, I run this. Is it bad? I've turned off all the scrolling updates etc - did you find that helped?

Got a battery replacement but still after no real use dropped to 50% in only 13 hours.
Any other ideas?

mine works for about 5 days normal usage with this options:
- phone on
- bt off
- wifi off
- automatically receive IrDa incoming... (Connections ->beam...)
so the wifi on my batt only last for a few hours, but when you disable wifi and the irda incoming you should have more batt. life

Thanks I will give this a try and have taken out irDA.
However my figures were with Bluetooth and Wireless off as well

I have noticed that with wifi on (and particularly if I'm using it) the battery drops at a frightening rate. Whereas with wifi disabled (which it's been for most of today - first day since I've had the XDA that I've been busy working and so haven't been 'fiddling' with it at all ) the battery still seems to be sitting happily at 80% after around 8 hours.
Funny, I thought that if the phone was suspended, the wifi would be inactive, so the battery wouldn't drop. Appears that's not the case...

Do u have Spb Pocket Plus installed? this program sucked my battery flat in 1 day. I removed it and now its up 2 or 4 days depending on how long i have wifi on. Checking email every 5 min also reduces battery life allot.
goodluck

No pocket plus... My today screen just has phmtray, resco today, taskplus, and the pocketmusic plugin...

Juno Battery?

I have a new Juno from T-Mo. battery last less than one day with the stock windows mobile rom. I have googled and it looks like a common problem with the Juno. Any known Fixes?
p0lar

buy the extended battery for $60

p0lar69 said:
I have a new Juno from T-Mo. battery last less than one day with the stock windows mobile rom. I have googled and it looks like a common problem with the Juno. Any known Fixes?
p0lar
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Turn off your BT and wifi when not in use and use the task manager to shut-down all other unused apps. I get 2 days on my battery, but I only text on average 10 messages spend a couple of hours and use the BT 2 to 3 hours on the phone each day.
There is no "known fix". I talked to a T-Mo rep after first getting the phone last year. She told me she was as dissatisfied as I was, even though I didn't actually say I was dissatisfied (only curious about a possible fix in the works).

yeah Wifi and BT are off. but we TXT alot. Ill turn down the back light time to see if that helps
the FAT battery wont be a "style acceptable" option in this case

i just deal with it

I have a second battery and a desktop charger.

Car charger helps either.

I mentioned it to T-Moe myself at the beginning and they sent me a new battery for back-up and a charger aswell. I guess by them doing that tells me, there was no quick fix for the battery issue.
I have noticed though with the 6.1 upgrade my battery life seems to be a tad bit better.

p0lar69 said:
I have a new Juno from T-Mo. battery last less than one day with the stock windows mobile rom. I have googled and it looks like a common problem with the Juno. Any known Fixes?
p0lar
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Short of turning off a whole bunch of connectivity options (BT/WiFi), the only real option is the Boxwave Extended Battery.

One notice
even when the backlight is set to 5 seconds. the half backlight stays on a long time. almost a minute. any fix for that?
p0lar

I also turned off Beam in Comm Manager and I set Automatic Sending/Recieving of Email to a long time period or for less important email accounts to manual.

WM 6.1, mail check over GPRS each 15 minutes, BT ON ever, WiFi Off. 15-30 mins calls per day. 1 hour of book reading. Standard battary lasts for 24-28 hours. Just carging thrue wall socket and Motorolla power adapter. In case of charging via USB from PC it only 15-18 hours. May be this can help for someone looking for longer battery life.

Supertrooper said:
I mentioned it to T-Moe myself at the beginning and they sent me a new battery for back-up and a charger aswell. I guess by them doing that tells me, there was no quick fix for the battery issue.
I have noticed though with the 6.1 upgrade my battery life seems to be a tad bit better.
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I do Agree the 6.1 update really i get almost 2 times the standby even with wifi and bt on.. however I also called Tmobile and they did send me a second battery .. now i just need to get me a stand alone charger and im golden.

I bought a second and third battery off of ebay for $10 each including shipping. The batteries are small so it's easy to stash a spare so ya have it when ya need it.